What’s up with Switzerland and brown cows?

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2025

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  • @TheBikerWolf1
    @TheBikerWolf1 3 роки тому +12

    Wow - cool, learnt something of Switzerland I did not know before from an American.

  • @eragon96grasel
    @eragon96grasel 3 роки тому +8

    So a few sidenotes as about the conflict between Schwyz and Einsiedeln. What you said is how the story is being told in Switzerland, especially in schools. Most Swiss people would tell exactly the story you told, but we know now its been a fabrication by the historians of that time. Most of the knowledge we have of this conflict stems from a guy called Agädius Tschudi. Only in recent years historians have begun to question the source material, the most prominent is Roger Sablonier, whose book "Gründungszeit ohne Eidgenossen" I can highly recommend.
    The land of the Sihl was gifted to the monastery by Heinrich II, (meaning all the Land that lies in the drainage area of the Shil above the converge of the Alp and the Sihl). So that includes the Minstertal, Waagtal, Sihltal and Alpthal, unclear was if that also includes the Bibertal (there was some dispute about the Bibertal between the Vogt of Einsiedeln and the House of Lenzburg, the Bibertal was probably meant to be part of the gift, it was just not clearly stated by Heinrich II). However, that was clarified by Heinrich V (1114) and again Konrad III (1143) and they both clearly reconfirmed all of the claims above including the Bibertal.
    We still do not know how the conflict exactly started. The monastery probably did not intensively use the Land in the upper Alpthal and in Oberiberg. So, farmers from Schwyz settled there, not legally but they did not concern the monastery as there was no conflict of interest yet. That changed with the intensification of cattle farming in the 13th century, and suddenly the monastery started using its land in the more remote parts of the valley and drove the farmers from Schwyz away. Obviously upset about the ongoing eviction there was a lowkey conflict for at least 40 years in the region with cattle stolen and farms burned (by both sides). The conflict finally got out of hand in 1314 with the sacking of the monastery by an angry mob of farmers from Schwyz. The only piece of legitimation for the raid, a document from "Rudolf der Alte" which is supposedly stems from 1217, is with very high probability a fake created for the court trail demanded by the monastery in Konstanz 1311, as they were starting to get worried about the border conflict getting out of hand. The story about the Habsburg and 1315 is even more complicated so I will leave it here.
    A very good and informative video nonetheless and sorry for the comment, it kinda got out of hand ^^

  • @gegenrechtsundbraun6337
    @gegenrechtsundbraun6337 3 роки тому +4

    Very interesting. I am from Austria and I Do have brown Swiss. I would take no other cows. But much Farmers here does not think so. I can not understand this.

  • @Motherof6pack
    @Motherof6pack 2 роки тому +2

    Well, that’s cool! However, it’s crazy hard to get a Brown Swiss here in the US!
    We’ve actually tried because we do all grass fed and the Brown Swiss is one of the best breeds to be able to feed grasses rather than supplement with grain as most dairies do here.
    They are either insanely expensive or very difficult to find.
    So far we haven’t got our hands on one yet.

    • @AmericameetsSwitzerland
      @AmericameetsSwitzerland  2 роки тому +1

      Really! I didn't know this. They are also expensive here but I don't know that they are any more than any other breed.

  • @christheswiss390
    @christheswiss390 3 роки тому +5

    Holy Moly, when you said you were doing a video on cows I laughed out loud and expected something funny. Then you got down and did a REALLY interesting veideo on cows - a topic that is as far as possible from anything I'd EVER (not even remotely) be interested in. Fabulous!

  • @mah_eyes
    @mah_eyes 3 роки тому +2

    Damn im swiss and i didnt even know those things. Good video

  • @scrouch8
    @scrouch8 2 роки тому +1

    I’d say this is the most interesting historical account of cows I’ve ever heard! 👍🏻

  • @tbone9474
    @tbone9474 2 роки тому +1

    We love our cows, we take pride in them. Even a city person loves them. You respect the herd going up to the pastures and you enjoy the herd going back down.

  • @swissnik1966
    @swissnik1966 2 роки тому

    Hats off to a really good video! As a Swiss I knew most of the things you told but you managed to surprise me with some details I didn’t know.
    One aspect that is important to highlight better is the fact that the OB, along with its greyish variant on the south side of the Alps, are small cows perfectly adapted to mountain pastures. They are more firm footed and their lighter weight leaves less deep hoof prints in the ground compared to other breeds, which is essential for not eroding those steep pastures. However, you really nailed all the important things about our beloved Original Brown Swiss 👍🏻

    • @AmericameetsSwitzerland
      @AmericameetsSwitzerland  2 роки тому +1

      These are very good points. The OB is a great cow for the alps. Thank you for the compliment!

  • @jaimeperkins9606
    @jaimeperkins9606 3 роки тому +1

    Cow expert for sure now… you are. Thanks for the great video mr. Philip! I like the red and white cow best

  • @swissnik1966
    @swissnik1966 2 роки тому +1

    In my previous comment I forgot to add a suggestion for a future video: How about making one about the black fighting cows of Valais? It’s an amazing tradition of Switzerland and something truly impressive. As far as I know nothing similar exists anywhere else in the world

    • @AmericameetsSwitzerland
      @AmericameetsSwitzerland  2 роки тому

      I’m already on it🙂 Unfortunately last year it was a little bit difficult to visit the competitions because of the restrictions. Hopefully this year!

  • @goatfarmmb
    @goatfarmmb Рік тому +1

    we had braunvieh cows back in Switzerland another Swiss breed that also became known world wide is the Simmental. And some goat dairy breeds as well like the Saanen, Oberhasli, Toggenburg usw

    • @AmericameetsSwitzerland
      @AmericameetsSwitzerland  Рік тому +1

      There is a Semmental on the farm. Eric likes to have one from every Swiss cattle breed.😂 I really don't know anything about the goats, but that's interesting. Thank you for watching!

    • @goatfarmmb
      @goatfarmmb Рік тому

      @@AmericameetsSwitzerland fuer geisse muaesch halt biim Schweizerische ziegenzuchtverband ga luaegge ;)

  • @TonyTouch23
    @TonyTouch23 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, really educative. Suscribed👍

  • @SkLLzDaTkLLs
    @SkLLzDaTkLLs 3 роки тому +2

    This is so funny, I've always wondered about this and talked about these brown cows to my Swiss girlfriend. Shocked a video was made about the exact specific topic.

  • @Aquilirius
    @Aquilirius 3 роки тому

    Super interesting, thank you!! When i was a child, i always thought that brown cows give coffee with milk, hahaha. Glad you proof me wrong :))))
    You live in a very interesting hometown. You also can do a video of the abbey Einsiedeln there .. you will be surprised.

  • @crocicroc5099
    @crocicroc5099 3 роки тому +2

    well done

  • @motortschunke
    @motortschunke 3 роки тому +3

    Can you make a video about the military service in switzerland?

    • @TheBikerWolf1
      @TheBikerWolf1 3 роки тому +1

      really? LoL: 80% waiting bored (playing cards), eating Swiss military chocolate, buisquits, "John Wayne" while marching in much less than perfect shoes carried of 20kg of luggage incl. 7.5kg of heavy metal, followed by 1% action and 14% of after action cleaning times. Summary of service during 22years.

    • @motortschunke
      @motortschunke 3 роки тому

      @@TheBikerWolf1 ebe das esch doch geil 🤣

  • @AutodidactEngineer
    @AutodidactEngineer 3 роки тому

    What is the brown swiss with horns called?
    Or are the same breed from the same genus?

    • @AmericameetsSwitzerland
      @AmericameetsSwitzerland  3 роки тому +1

      They are the same breed. Traditionally the brown Swiss has horns. But for safety reasons most farmers chose to have them removed. Thank you for watching😃

  • @Nokyyyyy
    @Nokyyyyy 3 роки тому

    I live in the brown and white cow photo
    And we have a ton of them

  • @Marco-ie2xn
    @Marco-ie2xn 5 місяців тому

    Schwys....funny !

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 4 місяці тому

    Braunvieh cattle