Same.. I went in to get relief from pain that not even steroid injections ere helping.. the chiro told me it was postural and to press the top of my shulder in a doorway.. 3 days later, I was in the hospital for a week w osteomyelitis. Ive seen maybe 4 chiros in my whole life, and ONE was worth his salt but he had sports med etc in his background and came from a family of physicians
I'm sorry you had this experience. I've only had positive experiences with my chiropractors. I saw one from 16 to 25years old. Id never take my dog to one though 😂
@@TragicallyDelicious it's the reason I could never recommend seeing a chiropractor in a good mind. I'm going into the medical field and for a class I job shadowed in a chiropractic's "clinic". Guess what I saw in there. Homeopathic "medicine" and colloidal silver (aka Smurf potion)!
My beagle had IVDD and back surgery after becoming paralyzed. Thanks to some amazing doctors she made a full recovery, but if anyone had come near her back, to crack it or adjust it or whatever, i would have lost my ship. People don't understand how delicate a dog's back can be!
Yeah. Used to do it with shelter dogs as one of their enrichment activities. I didn't do it often (sorry dogs) because as much as I love dogs the feeling of running my hand over their hair constantly like that was a sensory nightmare many days, especially wirey or short hair (sorry dogs). But yeah, it works great, you can probably look up a free guide. Most cats are less amenable because they get overstimulated by being touched, but some cats might like it too. Speaking of, suspicious lack of cats in these chiropractic videos.
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004Cats get all scratchy and bitey if you do unpleasant stupid things to them. Sticking a hand in a whirlwind of rage and hate is something even these idiots avoid.
@@ashiningsoul449 it's totally not about "professionals failing to do their job". It's confident snake oil salesmen sounding more convincing than experts saying they don't know (which is actually the best answer when there isn't clear evidence)
Even worse because chiropractic in humans is covered by most medical insurances, giving it undeserved credibility. People genuinely believe they're doctors, with medical education (and in some areas they can call themselves doctors even). They damage so many people, it's scary. What should be covered instead is therapeutic massage, and physiotherapy.
@ChrisCapoccia I mean for lots of people, they are ignored by doctors. It happens all the time. Unfortunately non doctors do try to take advantage of that
People who believe chiropractic "treatments" work must be on something. The more aggressive things people do make me wince (like the neck stretching people get done, ouch!)
As someone who's been to many chiropractors...my whole life. It is actually helpful. Neck adjustments are not required if patients don't want them. You should never ever "crack" your own neck. That freaks me right out. My whole family has been to chiropractors. However, I don't think it's okay for dogs. Lol ❤❤
@@Mdaisydoodle Chiropractice is like pseudo science. It's never been proven to fix anything. At best it gives temporary relief, at worse it makes things worse. If you are in pain, go see a doctor. An actual doctor
Thanks for debunking the equine corpus callosum myth. I recently "learned" that "fact" at an equine-assisted services conference (well, that the CC is small/underdeveloped compared to humans, not that it's missing, per se). A good reminder to take conference presentations with a grain of salt!
All the arguments for chiro in dogs essentially just boils down to "nuh uh it totally works!!!" and "Uh well if they uh don't do the spine thing and just move the joints around it's good!" which at that point... take them to a physiotherapist who doesn't believe that if they crack a spine the "right" way it will cure asthma, deafness or whatever other disease.
I will say, my chiropractor helped me with my neck pain but it was through dry needling and massaging the area. But I’d never take my critters to a chiropractor. Just doesn’t sit right with me.
This is a tough one for me, because my lower spine has been helped quite a bit by chiropractic work. What really bothers me are pet owners who will present their pet for chiropractic without first getting x rays, perhaps a CT scan ($$, I know) and most importantly an OK from thier DVM to try chiropractic. There is no way on God's green earth that I would do something like this without a thorough workup.
You can’t lump all animal chiropractors in one category. There are legitimate reputable animal chiropractors out there that have helped with gentle and painless adjustments and other therapies like laser. Some of the neurologists push surgery because of the money. I almost put my dog down because I was told surgery was the only effective option to get him to walk again and he started walking in 3 days after crate rest meds and laser therapy. He has made a full recovery. Glad I didn’t listen to the neurologist who tried to push me into surgery. Sad this is the world we live in. Do your own research and try to find a doctor that is not just in it for the money. Weigh your options. Get more than one opinion
Thank you for exposing these cases of chiropractic quackery. Thank you also for your beyond-the-call-of-duty efforts to help suppress the intentional breeding of highly-brachycephalic pets. Now if we can just get you to sign on to the campaign against Ventilation Shutdown, your animal welfare credentials will be impeccable! Best regards.
I have been seeing more and more of these horse chiropractic videos, and they don't set right with me for some reason. Several of the bigger you tubers that have horses do it.
Ugh my dog goes to the neurologist next week - she cries only when she poops so we (vet & rehab facility) think it’s a back issue but can’t pinpoint it. Chiropractic has been on my mind for her but these online ones are so crazy
I'm so torn between wanting to watch this to support your channel and not wanting to watch because I cannot stand seeing dogs and cats be subjected to "veterinary chiro" practices help
@@chancegeiger1546Why wouldn't he? I wouldn't be surprised if he made more. He's a veterinary specialist who does a lot of spinal surgery. You could crack 300,000 pretty easily after production.
Half of these videos are of a guy in Germany that does not have any chiropractic training, makes fake adjustments and overlays pop sounds on his videos. You also cherry pick the segments of my adjusting and make incorrect neurological statements about them. I’ve said it before. I’d be glad to chat with you about all of this but I realize that you get more money out of bashing my profession than you have any basis of integrity or learning about something you don’t understand. At this point it’s bordering defamation.
Thanks for watching everyone -- sorry for the coughing and low energy in this one. It's never ideal getting conjunctivitis from one of your kids.
Do a horse chiro video with RaleighLink😅
conjunctivitis is an inflammation of the eye, you dont get a cough from an eye infection. Where did you go to vet school?
Ok, the snake one was so stupid it legit felt like I was watching a parody video.
Thanks for putting in funny memes so I don't boil over with anger haha
Always
I got fucked up by a human chiropractor. I can’t imagine trusting my pets with one 😳
Same.. I went in to get relief from pain that not even steroid injections ere helping.. the chiro told me it was postural and to press the top of my shulder in a doorway.. 3 days later, I was in the hospital for a week w osteomyelitis. Ive seen maybe 4 chiros in my whole life, and ONE was worth his salt but he had sports med etc in his background and came from a family of physicians
I'm sorry you had this experience.
I've only had positive experiences with my chiropractors.
I saw one from 16 to 25years old.
Id never take my dog to one though 😂
@@TragicallyDelicious it's the reason I could never recommend seeing a chiropractor in a good mind. I'm going into the medical field and for a class I job shadowed in a chiropractic's "clinic". Guess what I saw in there. Homeopathic "medicine" and colloidal silver (aka Smurf potion)!
My beagle had IVDD and back surgery after becoming paralyzed. Thanks to some amazing doctors she made a full recovery, but if anyone had come near her back, to crack it or adjust it or whatever, i would have lost my ship. People don't understand how delicate a dog's back can be!
He's totally strong enough to reposition horse bones, how dare you. :P lol
Seriously 😂
Of course he is -- that's grade A chiropractic work right there
in the second full-nelson clip, you can see the tail still wagging. pretty tolerant dog, just sitting there for all the magic tricks
Pretty terrible magicians if you ask me
@@DVMCellini I meant that these are more sleight of hand than anything else
Right. Agree 💯
I don't think I've ever heard you laugh as much as you did in the last clip 😂
From another vet to another…. Thank you so much Dr. Cellini for shedding a bright light on these bogus methods!!! Evidence based medicine RULES!!!
Agreed!
Thank you for bringing awareness to this health topic.
I think a gentle massage type thing might be nice for most pets
Yeah. Used to do it with shelter dogs as one of their enrichment activities.
I didn't do it often (sorry dogs) because as much as I love dogs the feeling of running my hand over their hair constantly like that was a sensory nightmare many days, especially wirey or short hair (sorry dogs).
But yeah, it works great, you can probably look up a free guide.
Most cats are less amenable because they get overstimulated by being touched, but some cats might like it too.
Speaking of, suspicious lack of cats in these chiropractic videos.
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004Cats get all scratchy and bitey if you do unpleasant stupid things to them. Sticking a hand in a whirlwind of rage and hate is something even these idiots avoid.
God damn Dr. Cellini is at his breaking point 😂
Great ending! I am still chuckling.
Puts a new light on the term snake oil salesman…
Thank you for clearing this up. These videos amount to nothing more than animal abuse.
I love your sense of humor 😊 as well as your honesty and boldness. You educate as well . Not.l sure why they would risk so much. 😢😢
Thank you!
Keep it up, man. I just started watching you a couple of days ago.
Thanks boss!
😂 too funny. I have never understood Chiropractic care. Maybe it works for some people but I'm terrified it's going to make me worse.
Dude I loooove your videos. The horse one got me good hahahaha
it starts with a failure of people medicine to actually address the complete lack of evidence for people chiropractors
It's the reason so many people go towards alternative medicine. The actual professionals fail to properly do their job. Can you really blame them?
@@ashiningsoul449 it's totally not about "professionals failing to do their job". It's confident snake oil salesmen sounding more convincing than experts saying they don't know (which is actually the best answer when there isn't clear evidence)
Even worse because chiropractic in humans is covered by most medical insurances, giving it undeserved credibility. People genuinely believe they're doctors, with medical education (and in some areas they can call themselves doctors even).
They damage so many people, it's scary.
What should be covered instead is therapeutic massage, and physiotherapy.
@ChrisCapoccia I mean for lots of people, they are ignored by doctors. It happens all the time. Unfortunately non doctors do try to take advantage of that
Hey I'm subsided to Dr. Rachal i didn't know you knew her that's pretty cool that you two made a video together yall should do it more
OMG I'm crying laughing at the last one. Poor horsy!!! I think the poor thing was like "WTH DUDE!!! WHA WAS THAT FO??" 😂😂😂
The next animal chiropractic video will be about people boxing kangaroos and calling it “medicine” 🤦🏻♂️
People who believe chiropractic "treatments" work must be on something. The more aggressive things people do make me wince (like the neck stretching people get done, ouch!)
As someone who's been to many chiropractors...my whole life.
It is actually helpful. Neck adjustments are not required if patients don't want them.
You should never ever "crack" your own neck.
That freaks me right out.
My whole family has been to chiropractors.
However, I don't think it's okay for dogs. Lol
❤❤
@@Mdaisydoodle Chiropractice is like pseudo science. It's never been proven to fix anything. At best it gives temporary relief, at worse it makes things worse. If you are in pain, go see a doctor. An actual doctor
Thanks for debunking the equine corpus callosum myth. I recently "learned" that "fact" at an equine-assisted services conference (well, that the CC is small/underdeveloped compared to humans, not that it's missing, per se). A good reminder to take conference presentations with a grain of salt!
I also dont like acupuncture for pets either
That guy had better not try chiropractor stuff on a chameleon, it'd die of broken ribs and resulting suffocation
They totally ignore that most spinal pain has it`s origin at a totally different body part . Most times the pain is caused by the fascia .
Are you recording this in a bomb shelter?😂
😂 my basement which is mid-remodel
Hillarious poor animals though
All the arguments for chiro in dogs essentially just boils down to "nuh uh it totally works!!!" and "Uh well if they uh don't do the spine thing and just move the joints around it's good!" which at that point... take them to a physiotherapist who doesn't believe that if they crack a spine the "right" way it will cure asthma, deafness or whatever other disease.
Completely agree
I wish ghost-medicine was real lol
I will say, my chiropractor helped me with my neck pain but it was through dry needling and massaging the area. But I’d never take my critters to a chiropractor. Just doesn’t sit right with me.
This is a tough one for me, because my lower spine has been helped quite a bit by chiropractic work.
What really bothers me are pet owners who will present their pet for chiropractic without first getting x rays, perhaps a CT scan ($$, I know) and most importantly an OK from thier DVM to try chiropractic. There is no way on God's green earth that I would do something like this without a thorough workup.
C8 and T1 on 7:57 ??? Or u mean between C7 and T1 ??
Thanks anyway for these very useful videos !!
Jamal ,DVM
Chiropractics don't even belong in human medicine god forbid animal medicine.
Could they potentially cause a brachial plexus avulsion by full-Nelson-ing all these dogs?
Yes
You can’t lump all animal chiropractors in one category. There are legitimate reputable animal chiropractors out there that have helped with gentle and painless adjustments and other therapies like laser. Some of the neurologists push surgery because of the money. I almost put my dog down because I was told surgery was the only effective option to get him to walk again and he started walking in 3 days after crate rest meds and laser therapy. He has made a full recovery. Glad I didn’t listen to the neurologist who tried to push me into surgery. Sad this is the world we live in. Do your own research and try to find a doctor that is not just in it for the money. Weigh your options. Get more than one opinion
Thank you for exposing these cases of chiropractic quackery. Thank you also for your beyond-the-call-of-duty efforts to help suppress the intentional breeding of highly-brachycephalic pets. Now if we can just get you to sign on to the campaign against Ventilation Shutdown, your animal welfare credentials will be impeccable! Best regards.
Anyone who's owned a dog or been in a family with a dog/cat would immediately know the back reflex as a symptom is complete BS.
Chiropractic adjustments have helped many many horses. Im not sure you know enough to help yourself.
all the freaking videos showing "lame" animals moving perfectly fine 🙄 stop messing with them
I swear, misinformation on tiktok is going to be the end of us 😢 so many dumb people taking every last bit of bullshit at face value
I have been seeing more and more of these horse chiropractic videos, and they don't set right with me for some reason. Several of the bigger you tubers that have horses do it.
I dont mind chiropractors for humans, but animals no way.
Ugh my dog goes to the neurologist next week - she cries only when she poops so we (vet & rehab facility) think it’s a back issue but can’t pinpoint it. Chiropractic has been on my mind for her but these online ones are so crazy
these "chiropractors" will never touch my pets....,ever 🤦
Ahhhh.... Why she got to be so Sly!!??
I'm so torn between wanting to watch this to support your channel and not wanting to watch because I cannot stand seeing dogs and cats be subjected to "veterinary chiro" practices help
The clips in this video are definitely not the worst I've seen, unfortunately
chiropractors are butchers full stop.
Sir do you earn 300k dollars a year as a vet doctor? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
Lemme reply for him as someone going into vet med- no he does not.
why do you ask people how much money they make,? is it your business?
@@chancegeiger1546Why wouldn't he? I wouldn't be surprised if he made more. He's a veterinary specialist who does a lot of spinal surgery. You could crack 300,000 pretty easily after production.
"vet doctor" lol
Funny but not. Its disappointing, pathetic, disgusting and misleading.
Half of these videos are of a guy in Germany that does not have any chiropractic training, makes fake adjustments and overlays pop sounds on his videos. You also cherry pick the segments of my adjusting and make incorrect neurological statements about them. I’ve said it before. I’d be glad to chat with you about all of this but I realize that you get more money out of bashing my profession than you have any basis of integrity or learning about something you don’t understand. At this point it’s bordering defamation.