I have watched 2 of your lore videos (Ironjawz, Moonclan) and was very helpful. But in truth I didn't subscribe till I heard you use the word "tricksy" to describe Moonclan Grots, LOL! Tolkien spawned it all. Props.
Definitely my favorite ! I love painting these guys ! My favorite model is the one from the 90's of the little guy flipping off his enemy, he just speaks to me lol
This isn't really a lore question, it's more of a video request or idea. I think it would be cool of you did a video about all the discontinued armies. Warhammer has so much history that I think it's still relevant for AoS to know more of the world that was. Cheers
If there's some down-time I wouldnt mind doing that. Spending time on Brettonians or tomb kings seems to draw out the hates through :/ And right now theres just so much coming out, and so fast!
Hopefully the haters get fewer and fewer as acceptance for AoS grows :) And yeah, for now I'm sure you have your hands full. But it's fine to have a couple of videos in the save for later file as well :)
I hope we get to see a battletome for these guys soon (though I'm more of a greenskinz kind of guy myself), the night goblins were super cool in fantasy, and like you say they are pretty iconic. It's also one of those armies that has a relatively solid model range already, so GW could probably get away with just releasing one or two new kits and a battletome, though I feel like that applies to a decent chunk of the AoS armies that use the old fantasy models.
Agreed, I honestly think we will see more of that in the future (along with brand new stuff, like when Slaanesh finally gets a release), though I suspect some factions like the Collegiate Arcane and Ironweld Arsenal to remain as support ally options. Heck, they could even give the greenskin factions a combined sort of tome with different options (kinda like legions of Nagash), but that would depend on how the factions interact with each other in AoS, I don't know if they live together like they did in Fantasy (for the most part anyways) or if they live in more separate societies.
One thing that Im really getting exited about in AoS is how much Greenskin related novels there are, in comparison to 40k where we really have like 2 comic books, at least from the Orks point of view.
Really nice video! Would you be interested in doing a lore video on the underworld of Shyish? Still having trouble wrapping my head around what an underworld constitutes and what the difference is between the actual main land of Shyish and a random underworld. So many questions about thisXD
i would like to see them not only benefit from mushrooms, but also weaponize it (with grenadiers or artillery) maybe causing enemy units to act unpredictably, low levels could effect movement or charging, high levels could cause enemy units within 3' of each other fight as if it was the combat phase.
The Rustbelt Blacksmith I hope you’re right! Destruction is really hurtin for a modern battletome, with a spell lore, allegiance abilities and whatnot. And Moonclan grots would be a great starting point! 🌙 👺
I would love the idea of a Moon Clan Goblins battletome. Prefer that it comes out before Slaanesh because Chaos has gotten a lot just like order. The mushroom and moon phase mechanics sound awesome. One thing they need as a whole is a bravery buff spell/ability because battleshock tends to hurt them pretty bad currently. I could also see them having a trap setting ability that could be their way of debuffing the enemy. Overall I'm excited at the idea of a goblin army officially joining the ranks of destruction... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!
@ stew - not only do i believe the grots will get all of those and more, i also feel they may be destruction's universal ally (just like stormcast is for order). they'll fight alongside anyone, but it the end, it's to further their own interests. @ nic - i have no inside information, but using logic to connect some dots (which isn't the wisest thing at the moment, we have so little info), i'm thinking cause grots have so few robust heroes, they may get more of them (in number) and will have someway of boosting their command point pool and taking advantage of the inspiring presents thing. i think the look out sir thing (today's snippet on the community page) suits them as well.
I love the little gobbos/grots, and I think a moonclan specific battletome is on it's way very soon.... Unfortunately, I'd much rather see them as part of a larger Greenskin/grot battletome that allows for cool specializations within the army. Just because I'm not a big fan of "micro armies". It can be offset by adding a brickton of new models like for nighthaunt, but I like the larger "consolidating battletomes" best so far. I could see a LoN style approach, where the whole Grot army gets fed mushrooms to give them thematic stupor/powerup mechanics (for all units in your army), could work really well. A Grot army where you choose a "bad moon fanaticism" or a "spiderfang fanaticism" giving different rules to your army and extra bonuses for the subfaction specific units could make it an army that has a ton of build options without devolving into mono-build armies... A trap so many of the order armies has fallen into. For example: I select a Grot army with "bad moon devotion". - Moonclan units get better, tempting the player to use those units more, but don't limit him to only those units. - Mushrooms are handed out like candy before the battle, so all Grot units gain an extra benefit (maybe the shrooms steel their nerves somewhat). This would allow for very cool thematic armies, it would not limit the player too much with clunky ally limitations and would be an army that gives you more collection possibilities then ever before.
I think it would be cool if before the battle you roll a dice. That dice determines what moon is out on this battle. The different moons give different bonuses/ weakness.
I was thinking a moonclan grot shaman could summon bad moons to cover the existing for the buffs and debuffs. I am toying with the thought of the spells also being random and or effected on how many grots you have powering the waaagh! energy.
So boyz! Realy like the Age of Sigmar, and of cause your videos Dug, but I still hope there will be "fun rules" like the bad conditions of goblin and skaven Siege engine...
Another great vid man! Continuing with this trend of barely fleshed out races do you think you could do a video on the various (once) high elf factions? Just started doing an army with my island of blood leftovers and I've been struggling to find anything much on them
Aye they're great models! Originally meant to sell mine and just keep the skaven but they've really grown on me. Here hoping GW starts stocking them again some day!
Really like these guys. Was never into or...orruks but i like the idea of goblins in mass being high on shrooms! Definitely lookong forward to these guys being released in the future
To ship it outside the US is SSSOOOOO expensive. You could buy a full army at that cost.... seriously :( but I have plans for some fun stuff that’ll be international soon ;)
I love goblins in every fantasy game, always so reckless, zany and violent! However, I have to say I prefer the Gitmob Grots, at least aesthetically. I much prefer leather armour and bizarre contraptions to black robes and bouncing tooth monsters 😝
I’m one of the ‘tin foil hat’ people on this one lol. If the Malign Portents heroes are any indication we should hopefully see Moonclan Grots next! I’ve got a slew of old Night Goblins from the Battle For Skull Pass box set that I’m itching to get converted and painted up! I’d burst at the seems if they released new squig models!
The heroes came out and then Sacrosanct / Nighthaunt right after it. I'm not saying it's absolutely going to happen, but it is definitely coincidental.
I wouldnt be surprised, and it would be an awesome release format: "Here, enjoy these 4 cool heroes, we'll be releasing something for each at some point this year".
It would be a good format, little hints for some healthy skepticism and whatnot. I mean the sacrosanct one is spot on, they literally showed off a different Lord Ordinator model at Warhammerfest. Tin Foil Hat [ON]
Finally! I have been waiting so long for AoS lore on minor destruction factions. Would love it if you would make a video on spiderfang grots! :)
Great idea!!!! :)
Minor, soon to be major ;)
I have watched 2 of your lore videos (Ironjawz, Moonclan) and was very helpful. But in truth I didn't subscribe till I heard you use the word "tricksy" to describe Moonclan Grots, LOL!
Tolkien spawned it all. Props.
haha, well thank you for watching!!
Ah I remember the days of the dwarfs, the skaven and the night gobbo's fighting a 3 way battle.
It was glorious :)
I hope there's going to be a Moonclan Battletome! Night goblins were my longest running army in WHFB, loved playing those wacky little underdogs :D
Awesome! I think a fun-zany army would be great to see... and Destruction needs some serious love right now!
Definitely my favorite ! I love painting these guys ! My favorite model is the one from the 90's of the little guy flipping off his enemy, he just speaks to me lol
I reckon that they'll be a new faction with some new models at some point and the colossal squig drawn over from forgeworld or whatever.
That's a fair bet :)
Great... now I have a Moonclan Grot army to do now.
hahaha!
Would love to see a Gutbuster Ogor lore vid
Loved the Beastclaw one :D
P.S keep it up, amazing channel!
Aw, Thank you!!!!
i love your videos so much and i’m going to put some moon clan grots into my iron jaws army
This isn't really a lore question, it's more of a video request or idea. I think it would be cool of you did a video about all the discontinued armies. Warhammer has so much history that I think it's still relevant for AoS to know more of the world that was. Cheers
If there's some down-time I wouldnt mind doing that. Spending time on Brettonians or tomb kings seems to draw out the hates through :/ And right now theres just so much coming out, and so fast!
Hopefully the haters get fewer and fewer as acceptance for AoS grows :) And yeah, for now I'm sure you have your hands full. But it's fine to have a couple of videos in the save for later file as well :)
Great video! I'm intending to build a Grot army based around Squigs... Really looking foward to it
I hope we get to see a battletome for these guys soon (though I'm more of a greenskinz kind of guy myself), the night goblins were super cool in fantasy, and like you say they are pretty iconic. It's also one of those armies that has a relatively solid model range already, so GW could probably get away with just releasing one or two new kits and a battletome, though I feel like that applies to a decent chunk of the AoS armies that use the old fantasy models.
I totally agree! If all the old factions got the Daughters of Khaine treatment (2-3 new kits and a battletome) my hear would be happy :)
Agreed, I honestly think we will see more of that in the future (along with brand new stuff, like when Slaanesh finally gets a release), though I suspect some factions like the Collegiate Arcane and Ironweld Arsenal to remain as support ally options.
Heck, they could even give the greenskin factions a combined sort of tome with different options (kinda like legions of Nagash), but that would depend on how the factions interact with each other in AoS, I don't know if they live together like they did in Fantasy (for the most part anyways) or if they live in more separate societies.
One thing that Im really getting exited about in AoS is how much Greenskin related novels there are, in comparison to 40k where we really have like 2 comic books, at least from the Orks point of view.
Agreed!!!!
2+Tough on the subject, Deff Skuadron is back in print, and it amazing.
Really nice video! Would you be interested in doing a lore video on the underworld of Shyish? Still having trouble wrapping my head around what an underworld constitutes and what the difference is between the actual main land of Shyish and a random underworld. So many questions about thisXD
Thats a great idea!! :)
i think we'll see a moon clan grots battletome in the next 4 to 6 months, after night haunt & stormcast and either before or after slaanesh.
I'd love that!
i would like to see them not only benefit from mushrooms, but also weaponize it (with grenadiers or artillery) maybe causing enemy units to act unpredictably, low levels could effect movement or charging, high levels could cause enemy units within 3' of each other fight as if it was the combat phase.
The Rustbelt Blacksmith I hope you’re right! Destruction is really hurtin for a modern battletome, with a spell lore, allegiance abilities and whatnot. And Moonclan grots would be a great starting point! 🌙 👺
I would love the idea of a Moon Clan Goblins battletome. Prefer that it comes out before Slaanesh because Chaos has gotten a lot just like order. The mushroom and moon phase mechanics sound awesome. One thing they need as a whole is a bravery buff spell/ability because battleshock tends to hurt them pretty bad currently. I could also see them having a trap setting ability that could be their way of debuffing the enemy. Overall I'm excited at the idea of a goblin army officially joining the ranks of destruction... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!
@ stew - not only do i believe the grots will get all of those and more, i also feel they may be destruction's universal ally (just like stormcast is for order). they'll fight alongside anyone, but it the end, it's to further their own interests.
@ nic - i have no inside information, but using logic to connect some dots (which isn't the wisest thing at the moment, we have so little info), i'm thinking cause grots have so few robust heroes, they may get more of them (in number) and will have someway of boosting their command point pool and taking advantage of the inspiring presents thing. i think the look out sir thing (today's snippet on the community page) suits them as well.
great lore video i look forward too more!
I love the little gobbos/grots, and I think a moonclan specific battletome is on it's way very soon.... Unfortunately, I'd much rather see them as part of a larger Greenskin/grot battletome that allows for cool specializations within the army. Just because I'm not a big fan of "micro armies". It can be offset by adding a brickton of new models like for nighthaunt, but I like the larger "consolidating battletomes" best so far.
I could see a LoN style approach, where the whole Grot army gets fed mushrooms to give them thematic stupor/powerup mechanics (for all units in your army), could work really well. A Grot army where you choose a "bad moon fanaticism" or a "spiderfang fanaticism" giving different rules to your army and extra bonuses for the subfaction specific units could make it an army that has a ton of build options without devolving into mono-build armies... A trap so many of the order armies has fallen into.
For example: I select a Grot army with "bad moon devotion".
- Moonclan units get better, tempting the player to use those units more, but don't limit him to only those units.
- Mushrooms are handed out like candy before the battle, so all Grot units gain an extra benefit (maybe the shrooms steel their nerves somewhat).
This would allow for very cool thematic armies, it would not limit the player too much with clunky ally limitations and would be an army that gives you more collection possibilities then ever before.
Great idea Walter! I also prefer the battletomes that bring factions together rather then keep them separate :/
You called it
Moonclan needs a start collecting box so badly. still waiting.
I think it would be cool if before the battle you roll a dice. That dice determines what moon is out on this battle. The different moons give different bonuses/ weakness.
Totally! Would you add a mechanic to change the moon at all?
I was thinking a moonclan grot shaman could summon bad moons to cover the existing for the buffs and debuffs. I am toying with the thought of the spells also being random and or effected on how many grots you have powering the waaagh! energy.
The difference in the moon should affect the Deepkin tied.
Yay, IV just started an army of these too
Solid choice!!
I think I would like to see a greenskinz battletome that brings the orruks and grots together as one faction.
Awesome video! I never realized that they are the equivalent to the night goblins, what did Forest Goblins become, if anything!
Lot of wonderful green targets :)>>
So boyz! Realy like the Age of Sigmar, and of cause your videos Dug, but I still hope there will be "fun rules" like the bad conditions of goblin and skaven Siege engine...
Absolutely! Factions like Moonclan and Skaven are great for the "Risk vs. Reward" mechanics where everything is amazing... but can kill you!
Another great vid man!
Continuing with this trend of barely fleshed out races do you think you could do a video on the various (once) high elf factions?
Just started doing an army with my island of blood leftovers and I've been struggling to find anything much on them
Hey DoTheHustle27, I'll certainly see what I can find :) The swifthawks agents are some of my favorite units in Order :)
Aye they're great models! Originally meant to sell mine and just keep the skaven but they've really grown on me. Here hoping GW starts stocking them again some day!
Really like these guys. Was never into or...orruks but i like the idea of goblins in mass being high on shrooms! Definitely lookong forward to these guys being released in the future
Me too!!! Im a sucker for horde armies :)
2+Tough yeah.i might have a problem with the new death stuff... Paychecks seem to be vanishing
Good shit dude, keep it up.
haha, thank you!
prediction got true
Fantastic video. Grots rule!
Thank you!
Seems your predictions were right!
Doug, why is there no international shipping for that awesome mat? I wanted to get one :(
To ship it outside the US is SSSOOOOO expensive. You could buy a full army at that cost.... seriously :( but I have plans for some fun stuff that’ll be international soon ;)
Can you pls do a lore video about the spiderfang grots?
the second we have something I'll be all over it. :)
you make me regret not playing goblins 10years ago XD
no regrets! They are a great army!
I want less cartoony plastic Squigs. Much like that of the one that comes with the 40k Warboss.
I agree! A new squig sculpt would go a long way for the faction
We actually don't know how Skarsnik died in the Endtimes so I hope he returns as their leader
Moonclan is a faction that needs a Start collecting box.
60 grots and a shaman? I'd do that lol
I love goblins in every fantasy game, always so reckless, zany and violent! However, I have to say I prefer the Gitmob Grots, at least aesthetically. I much prefer leather armour and bizarre contraptions to black robes and bouncing tooth monsters 😝
Very fair ;) I'll agree that the Gitmob seems to be a bit more zany and thats a heck of a lot of fun!
Yo Doug! Where be dem Thunderscorn, Troggoth and White Lion vids bruh? ;)
There's less about those three then almost any other faction, hahaha. I'll see what I can do :)
I’m one of the ‘tin foil hat’ people on this one lol. If the Malign Portents heroes are any indication we should hopefully see Moonclan Grots next! I’ve got a slew of old Night Goblins from the Battle For Skull Pass box set that I’m itching to get converted and painted up! I’d burst at the seems if they released new squig models!
DutchYT well wouldn't think that but considering we have nighthunt and sormtcast you might be on to something
The heroes came out and then Sacrosanct / Nighthaunt right after it. I'm not saying it's absolutely going to happen, but it is definitely coincidental.
I wouldnt be surprised, and it would be an awesome release format: "Here, enjoy these 4 cool heroes, we'll be releasing something for each at some point this year".
It would be a good format, little hints for some healthy skepticism and whatnot. I mean the sacrosanct one is spot on, they literally showed off a different Lord Ordinator model at Warhammerfest. Tin Foil Hat [ON]
Slaanesh lore?
Im trying to put together a video on Slaanesh but there isnt a ton of info. I promise I'm working on it!
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