I like the way this channel usually gives a detailed rundown of what will be covered -- more detailed than the "teaser" style often seen. This keeps me subscribed, as I know I can opt out after one or two minutes when he covers stuff I either already know, or am uninterested in for some other reason. It works out as about evens whether I watch to the end or quit at the title sequence. And that works for me, and works for the channel as it is a better hit rate than if I unsubbed after a video that was not relevant to me.
@@Влади́мирВлади́мировичПу́т-е1ш A lot of people are switching to Signal. Telegram is less secure and privacy respecting than Signal, but there are probably already some of your contacts that use it.
@Rob Braxman Tech it is funny how you spread misinformation on Matrix while praising XMPP. This is so ridiculous, but maybe it is because you use XMPP yourself, and , thus, there is a confirmation bias towards it. Indeed Matrix offers almost everything which XMPP does, but does improve on: - Encryption: You can access all your encrypted messages on any (new) device and even web browser sessions. It scales more and works flawless on all clients that support encryption, because Matrix uses MEGOLM-encryption. - Verification: XMPP requires you to verify every device of your contacts with every device you own. This is just impossible to achieve in practice, especially if you create a new session spontaneously as you would have to meet with every contact of you before you start communicating. Matrix has improved this such that you only need to verify each single person only once. Remember: Verification prevents the servers to unnoticeably install modules which automatically decrypt your E2EE-messages. - Decentralization: While in XMPP each conversation is centralized to one server, the conversations in Matrix are decentralized. This means that large parties like WhatsApp, Google, etc. CANNOT destroy Matrix like they did 10 years ago with XMPP. With Matrix each server has equal rights, while in XMPP one single server controls the conversation. - Servers & Clients: contrary to XMPP they are all compatible
False statements about Matrix: - Matrix running on many servers is only theoretical: Actually, it is very practical. There are about 45.000 Matrix servers, some of them run by schools, governments (France, Germany), universities, companies, individuals or nice people as a free service like tchncs.de - Running Matrix server is resource intensive/hard, and thus theoretical: While it might be that it is more resource intensive than XMPP, Matrix has no problems at running on a Raspberry PI. - Most people are on Element.io servers. This is wrong. They are on matrix.org servers, because Element defaults to it. - Centralized Metadata through vector.im: It is not central (everyone can choose a arbitrary identity server). It is optional (for automatic discovery through phone numbers). It does not collect any meta data: It just tells you the username belonging to a phone number if the person owning that phone number wants that. - Identity server is called by all servers: The identity server is called by clients (optionally) - Matrix is meant for social groups: Not true. Matrix is a protocol for communication. It can be used for anything. Element is meant for instant messaging & team messaging. - End-To-End-Encryption is not automatic: It is automatic and enabled by default in Element. False statements about XMPP: - XMPP is very popular: It was very popular, but has been abandoned by various companies like google and Facebook(WhatsApp). - no one in XMPP can read the contents of messages (not even the servers): Since verification in XMPP is very hard, almost no one verifies his/her contacts (respectively all their devices). Thus, XMPP servers can unnoticeably read your messages through MITM attacks.
I'm doing my best to do basic educate on "clean tech" to my circle of influence and I'm recommending your videos heavily, Rob. So many of my friends are completely ignorant of threats from Google and Facebook, etc. and have no idea that they can make small changes to disrupt tracking. You are filling a void with your work and it is much appreciated, my friend!
You should definitely checkout elastos.info/ . The today s Internet is broken and have become centralized. We the people need a new web where everyone owns their own Data!! #ownYourData
@@cammeekins576 good idea and point about individual privacy and security However, it is actually not that the Internet is broken nor the WWW, rather it was intentionally arranged. Are You aware the internet was originally developed for US DARPA, then released for use into the public domain in later 1980s [see Anita Jones, company head who developed it, sold to Raytheon Technology Corp., board member In-Q-Tel [IQT], along with Peter Thiel [known, established Builderberger]. Then cellular mobile communications developed then too, with merging them in later 2G, improvement in each Generation [now 5G], with nearly every human having a pocket computer phone device from the poorest to richest countries for nearly a decade. They have vast amounts of detailed information collected, stored, accessible, retrievable, searchable for over a decade and for many into two, three and more through each Generation! The Nazi's collected data about its citizens and residents just via physician visits records, used rudimentary data machines (founder of IBM) and were able to accomplish their massive collection, round up, encampment of people, murder of 12 Million, especially the Benei Yisroeil/Yidden/Jews/Hebrews [6 Million]! Imagine what these Globalists/Elite/Illuminati/Committee of 300/NWO/UN/BIIA/BITC Eugenicists can do and are plotting?! Sincerely
@Upgrayedd It's not even the governments who are the threat, it's companies. I get about 700 tracking requests every single day on my mobile. All of them are with a commercial backgound. Location, things I buy and look at, contacts, what I read ... and most by google, amazonaws, facebook (without anything by facebook installed and with no facebook account!), or by companies who promise customer insights to their clients, or by my phone's maker Xiaomi. Most of these trackers are hidden inside installed apps, not inside Android, except wifi geofencing. Google apps have mostly google trackers, but also some facebook trackers. Weather apps and messengers are the worst with up to 15 trackers in one single app. I'd say I have blocked more than 90 % of that. But it is a lot of work.
Kir Rider 🤣🤣 You are right! After watching several of this guys vids . I’m starting to look at my phone as an enemy. Like seriously contemplating getting rid of my phone!
If you cut out a persons tongue,you’re NOT proving them to be a liar you’re only proving that you are SCARED of what that person may have to say to the world ! 😉
Seems like it doesn’t matter what we use. We’re dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t... What about just buying burner phones and change it out every 3/6 months. ?? Not as convenient and functionality cumbersome but doesn’t use 5G and makes us less vulnerable...
All government is evil. Limited government just happens to be a necessary evil to help limit criminals. Any government only works when those in government have integrity. This is the problem with government in the US, integrity has disappeared, at all levels. Sad!
the best instant messaging is running a XMPP instance on a Raspberry PI with e2e encryption, you are encrypted and.. you own the server. Whoever uses a public service, should automatically assume your data isn't your own and your messages are kept.
Great video and explanation... I like session the most b/c it does not require a phone number. I feel liberated due to this factor. I have to stay away from FB products.
Thank you Rob. I seriously want to become a client of yours! I am not tech savvy so be patient. I don't care about how much this costs because I believe Christians have always had a target on our backs and I believe that you are part of the solution. Mark in Seattle
Good day Rob Braxman. Recently I began to be interested in what is happening in the world of information security. The deeper I plunged into this world, the more scary it becomes for my anonymity on the Internet. On the right, I wanted to thank you for covering and promoting these useful topics on the Internet. I myself am from Russia and I watch your videos by translating subtitles. Because of this, a lot of things remain unclear. In this commentary, I would like to receive answers to my questions. I'll start with the pre history. At the moment I own a PC, iPhone 8, MacBook Air 11 2015. It is very unpleasant for me to realize that every time I open an application or give access to my geolocation. And I just use MY gadgets, all information is collected and sent to Apple servers to "improve user experience". Therefore, I am planning to change my gadgets for others. For example: 1) Buy a smartphone and install LineageOS on it. 2) Buy a laptop and install Linux on it. Please tell me, using a smartphone based on LineageOS without Google services, will I be "more protected" from surveillance compared to an iPhone? Is ubuntu touch alive, or other mobile Linux os? Tell me, what do you use, and what can you advise to buy from devices in open sale? For the earlier, YOU BIG THANKS! (The translate was via google translate, the original text is below) [-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------] Доброго времени суток Rob Braxman. Недавно начал интересоваться что происходит в мире информационной безопасности. Чем глубже я погружался в этот мир, тем страшнее мне становится за свою анонимность в интернете. Справа я хотел поблагодарить вас, за то что вы освещаете и продвигаете данные полезные темы в интернете. Сам я из России и смотрю ваши виде при помощи перевода субтитров. Из-за этого много чего остается непонятным. В данном комментарии, я хотел бы получить ответы на интересующие меня вопросы. Начну с пред истории. В данный момент я владею ПК, iPhone 8, MacBook Air 11 2015. Мне очень неприятно осознавать, что каждый раз когда я открываю приложение или даю доступ к своей геолокации. Да и просто пользуюсь СВОИМИ гаджетами, вся информация собирается и отправляется на серверы Apple, для "улучшения пользовательского опыта". Поэтому я планирую поменять свои гаждеты на другие. Например: 1) Купить смартфон и установить на него LineageOS. 2) Купить ноутбук и установить на него линукс. Скажите пожалуйста, пользуясь смартфоном на базе LineageOS без Гугл сервисов, буду ли "сильнее защищен" от слежики, по сравнению с айфон? Жива ли убунту тач, или другие мобильные линукс ос? Скажите чем вы пользуетесь, и что вы можете посоветовать купить из устройств в открытой продажи? За ранее БОЛЬШОЕ ВАМ СПАСИБО!
"You never have to worry about your messages being read". You preach it! Trying to reach 4k colleagues with IT related stuff myself, I know how it feels when your messages are not being read. MS Analytics shoves it into my face every time.
I just discovered you and, man, you are a ROCK STAR! I am working my way through your videos. I don’t know if you are on Gab, but its founder just announced a Gab phone that’s on the way. I would be interested in hearing your take on it when it comes out.
Threema is my personal favorite. Incredibly secure, requires zero personal information to signup, trustworthy team, privately owned company, open source, audited, and excellent UX. I’d suggest revisiting their documentation for what information is uploaded and how things like contacts are managed. From what I remember, they do a much better job of mitigating any privacy concerns of uploaded contacts if you choose to do so, though I’m not sure why you’d sync you contacts with Threema in the first place, as anonymity is one of the main reasons people use it over others.
I did also get the desktop version and it worked very well. I even send a video through there from my computer that had already been taken off my phone.
Kudos for presenting the name of the current tool/software on the screen that you were discussing. I wish more UA-cam folks would do this as it makes it so easy to get to exactly where you want to listen or review.
Hello Rob, what a great channel for learning about privacy, has been a year that I follow it and each video is something to learn and think about and this is massive. I thought about Threema and ways it works. I thought that by not entering email and phone number privacy check was filled. Now I have to rethink.....thank you. Happy holidays..
It’s so hard to follow all of the techy terms. I just want to download an app and be able to use it, not to have to convince all my friends and family to use it too!
Happy New Year, Rob! Thank you for the detailed information - as always perfectly presented. Yes, you are heard! Seems that, finally, there is more awareness for the importance of privacy. Congrats for the many subscribers, well done!
For Matrix: You can choose any server you want (also on Element) and you can specify the identity server you want to use, but most would want to use a central server here I would say (if you want to use an identification server at all, you can always deactivate it) and since one year or so, phone numbers are hashed there too. E2E encryption is also activated automatically on new 1 to chats 1 in latest versions of Riot/Element (maybe also groups, haven't checked). I also like the easy E2E verification methods in Element, that also work comfortably over phone. I haven't seen another app, that makes this so easy. Since it's federated it has the same problems (related to privacy) and advantages as XMPP. But I think the fact that there is one good multi platform client (Element) gives it a huge advantage over XMPP. The only issue is that most people just use the matrix.org server. But that's the choice of the user and not the problem of Matrix itself. Personally I would recommend Matrix over XMPP for most user right now.
What about Wire? It is end to end encrypted, and can be used without a phone number, and supports all the features like VOIP, groups etc, of mainstream programs.
You'd be surprise on Reddit that everyone gets an orgasm whenever you mention it and get a F ton of downvotes. Although it has a problem of it's metadata you can use it in a limited action to reduce your prints at a maximum level and even it's business-focused it still work as a personal messenger and I don't have to send my phone number to a U.S company.
Thanks for this Rob. Very detailed and informative. And there I was thinking I was safe from WhatsApp cos I live in Europe and don’t and have had a Facebook account. But now I see that other family members like siblings who have Facebook Instagram and the likes have compromised me lol..
This video on encrypted im clearly communicates your level of knowledge across the board. Every one of your examples are spot on and your clarificatons are excellent. Your grasp of the material and how you share the information is insightful, to share, threema has resolved an issue you mentioned. You address an area that has this planet at risk, including our nation.. Keep on keeping on.. Kudos.,
He is so wrong with signal that I'm not sure how reliable the rest of the information in the video is. So video should mostly be used as an overview of the current IM technology though own research is needed for the correct decision.
It's just a client that connects to your phone and accesses the network through it. That's not really a standalone app. You still need your phone for that. Whatsapp is also like that. You don't need that with other messengers, Telegram for example.
Rob, in the video, you state that Signal only works with iOS and Android. There are also options for PC and Mac. If you send a text on the phone, it appears in your PC's history. However, messages sent from the PC (tested with Windows and iOS), so not appear on the phone's chat history. Love this channel. Looking into a De-googled phone.
Rob, a few remarks on Threema, though. Yes, I does support (video) calls, that's implemented a few month ago. Threema does not store the contactlist. (Meaning all your contacts) it keeps a hash of the Threema ID and returns this for connection request (a phonenumber isn't required for Threema, and even if there is one, it won't be in the hash. All of this happens in temp. Memory and is discarded the moment the match is 'up and running'. So, there is no list of who is "friends" with whom. Threema also strips metadata and makes even sure that the 'notification payload' is empty, it's just for waking up the app. Yes, it does use "central servers" but why is that a problem? It isn't peer-to-peer, so servers are needed. But it provides E2EE encryption, FS and the server doesn't store data any longer than necessary. (The little data it has) About the public keys storage, I don't see the problem here. Since the are mended to be public by nature. (Its the private key that counts)
Many thanks Rob for your enlightenment throughout 2020...I wish you strength and perseverance in your mission for 2021..may you and your family stay strong ...
It's just a client that connects to your phone and accesses the network through it. That's not really a standalone app. You still need your phone for that. Whatsapp is also like that. You don't need that with other messengers, Telegram for example.
I am using wire as an alternative for whatscrap. It offers alternatives: Either use a phone number or e-mail. And you don't have to give your number if you login via phone number. It creates a wire ID that you can give. And it does not notify people in your contact list that you are using wire. Also it does not allow anyone to message you unless you give that person permission. The one disadvantage would be that if you connect an e-mail to it, the vulberability can be in the association with that e-mail account. However, you can make use of disinformation and only use an e-mail that is created for this purpose. (I personally prefer using the e-mail not the phone numbers , which is more _convenient_). I also have session as an alternative. And session requires absolutely nothing to login. And it is multiplatform as well, like wire is.
I'd add WIRE to the list. Open source. No phone number needed to sign up. End-end encryption. Finger print ID to verify device's. MacOS and linux desktop apps.
I stopped trusting Wire ever since they were bought by that US holding company and shifted their attention to enterprise customers instead of consumer features.
Hey Brax, I appreciate all that you do and educating and pushing security and privacy amongst users. I am curious, is there a reason you didn't consider Wire as a secure messaging app? I was drawn by the fact that I didn't have to provide an email and its cross platform. Is there something I am missing?
I am surprised why you didn't pick threema as your choices? And the app even went open source just recently. Amy particular reason, I quite like it. The no number registration is what pulled me to it. (I would use signal, but it requires a number)
@@robbraxmantech I'm not sure why you consider xmpp more suitable than matrix. I run my own server, just as you can with xmpp, and you have a specific address, much like an email address just as you do with xmpp, and don't have to register with an identity server. In fact, the default is to not register with an identity server. You actually have to go into the settings and manually do it. Furthermore, it has some of the best encryption available right now, and you can do things like de-authenticate devices you no longer trust. Such as if a phone gets lost at a protest, for example.
@@robbraxmantech But isn't this optional? During the setup process you can opt out of sharing your contact list along with not having to use an email or phone number. Sure it requires then sharing your ID some other way, but then those centralised mapped IDs aren't tied to anything as long as those end users created and friended each other over VPN or locally over QR code. Am I missing something?
Matrix is far more superior than xmpp. It's e2ee in default (you wrongly said it's not, which is true for xmpp not for matrix). you don't have to trust the other person that he's using omemo. Lots and lots of clients only use otp, which doesn't even encrypt the files sent, rather only text messages. Matrix also supports lot's of bridges. That people use the default matrix server is their fault. XMPP isn't great for privacy, you can read the article from privacy handbook blog. P.s: conversion.im is free on f-droid ;) so you don't have to pay. I really wish you read my comment. Thanks
Briar: you are right that it is always an important question how initial contact is made via peer to peer with a known identifier that is not on the local network segment/wifi/Bluetooth. One way this can be organised is by the apps themselves passing on messages that say Ident1 is on IP and asks Ident2 to get in touch. For privacy protection both these idents should be hashed in some way, otherwise any other user of the app can collect metadata. I have no idea if Briar does this or uses a central server, let alone if they do it in a way that maintains privacy, but am just pointing out that it is possible in principle for p2p to be fully decentralized. P2p file storage has been implemented like this, for example
Briar used to demand that users physically scan QR codes of contacts' public keys to import them into their clients, but that's obviously cumbersome for remote contacts, so they compromised and allowed key distribution via the same way Signal currently does. Participants have to verify fingerprints out-of-band... somehow. That exercise is left up to the reader.
Nodes on the Loki (now rebranded to Oxen) network, get paid in Oxen, not Monero. The cryptocurrency itself is a fork of Monero, but now is quite different, as it's a Proof of Stake network, not Proof of Work, and has a bunch of other features. The monetisation plan was released recently.
I would have liked to see LINE messenger included, which has an awesome companion for Windows and Mac OS. Line doesn't use a phone number to identify peoplecand doesn't reveal the user's phone numbers, and the user can choose NOT to let it scan the address book for friends who use it too, thus avoiding uploading contacts to some servers. It uses encryption, has groups and voice or video calls. On iOS it can run in an iPhone AND an iPad simultaneously, sadly not on Android phone + tablet yet. The Windows or Mac companion can always run simultaneously to the mobile devices.
line is korean government oriented app. it’s not japanese app. it’s a basic knowledge that line steals every information including payment and geolocation. it’s deadly as north korea. you can search the dangers of line in japanese community. really watch out for line.
It's the same people who created the internet and encryption. Actually, their projects got leaked and now they can't control encryption and secure protocols UNLESS they have a backdoor. So far Signal doesn't have a backdoor but there' a lot of questions about their funding and who's behind the project. I personally believe Moxie is just a front character and the shadow people are behind the real work. I still use it with my friends but I'd try to get them to switch to threema if possible
At 7:56 you mentioned that Signal only works with iOS and Android platforms. This is not true since I am using it right now with the PC desktop app. I think this is a relevant correction. Very informative video still!
for short explanation Telegram isnt secure not encrypted by default the encryption key is on their server planning to add ads on their platform and they build their own not open source encryption in their house lol so thats a BIG NO! I would say that Telegram is worse than Whatsapp
@@beahinampas3015 Telegram has secret chats that are encrypted on endpoints and are not stored on servers. In addition, in these chats, you can set a timer for deleting correspondence, which is very convenient. Even if your terminal device falls into dirty hands, the correspondence will probably be deleted by this time.
@@db0nd And what's the encryption they use? their built in house encryption!? No thank you! Who's gonna do that every time they make new chat to their friends? Facebook messenger have that but no one use it lol! and on timer for deleting messages if we talking about normal message even you set a message to delete in specific time those messages store to their servers so oof! so good luck on that and one more thing Telegram have the encryption key to decrypt your message on their server so no mattter what you use secret or normal (well the normal one is the worse not to mention the group chat) your fucked. So I think Telegram is much worse than Whatsapp because atleast they just collect the metadata of the messages thats ok than storing all your messages in the server that isn't encrypted. Well if some hackers want to hack Telegram those hackers dont need to break the TELEGRAM encrytion just need to fucked the server lol
@@db0nd One more thing this is the last Telegram is planning to add ads to their platform lol! if that's not enough then your fan boi of Telegram! Remember no matter what you say or how you explain it ads is a ads and thats a bad news lol
@@beahinampas3015 Advertising is not good. But this is good news at the same time. This gives us an understanding of the source of funding for the telegram. Or would you rather know that Russian secret services are paying for your communication in telegrams. Or would you rather pay to use the messenger? The question is about money - where will it come from to support the infrastructure? PS: Durov promised that telegram ads would not be annoying.
Thank you for your work and content Rob Braxman. Awesome stuff. I hope you, me and everyone in the world has a less orwellian year in 2021. All the best from England 👍
We are the people! If everybody switched to open source soft- and hardware, all data miners would disappear easily. It's customer's wish that make companies grow or go. In the end, Google and Facebook are only companies. More difficult is three letter agency spying.You have to re- create true democracy. This work is far more difficult. Have a happy New Year!
Very intelligent, when you have ADHD it is overwhelming, how I would like to follow and retain what you are saying, but sometimes I feel just tell me what to do and how
Signal partnering with Microsoft, Skype using Signal code in some way is concerning. Does anyone know more about this? For "normal users" and general crowds I'm more for Telegram, which features are so many that it beats Signal anyway.
I note that when I download a keyboard application for my Android phone, Google warns me that the keyboard is perfectly capable of leaking everything I type to the developer's servers (and by extension, I should use Google's keyboard). I'm not sure that I would ever consider my Android device secure or private.
@@LinA-it9vd Which strengthens my opinion that big tech facilitates Leftist agitators, while anything right of center is immediately deplatformed by them.
What gets me is that China cuts the internet or changes the electoral system and its big news, but Indonesia has been doing that for decades and not a whisper in mainstream news media... Being able to have secure conversations is more important than most people seem to realise.
@@stultuses You mean it calls GMS libraries for FCM support? You know that's not strictly required, right? In fact, the Molly fork of Signal doesn't use FCM at all, only websocket, and interoperates with the Signal servers just fine. Both are fully open-source. You're just nitpicking about which libraries they choose to link against.
I have been using Signal ever since Apple proved they cannot keep messages private :) On my iPhone and Mac, as well as my laptop (Windows 10.) Works great.
Signal has had desktop clients for Linux, Windows, and Mac for years. You can use your phone and one or more desktop clients simultaneously without problem. "The Hated One" has a video claiming that Signal has switched its server source code from open to proprietary. Do you know anything about that?
IT's the most used app after whatsapp, has tons of features and is the best for 'normal' people. Even tho it's founder, Durov seems like a guy who cares about privacy a lot and seems credible. He even left Russia after they wanted the keys from him. The app isn't open source and it uses phone number and the End to end encryption is done in weird way. There is the true end to end only in secret conversations. In group chats and normal conversations its a bit different. That is why he didn't include it but it is still really a solid option imo. This channel is just extremely paranoid and really into the absolute safe stuff.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro. This is very important don't skip it.
05:59 Signal.
08:06 Briar.
10:22 Matrix.
13:24 XMPP.
16:51 Threema.
18:39 Session.
21:01 Whatsapp (counterexample).
22:53 Conclusion, recommendations.
I like the way this channel usually gives a detailed rundown of what will be covered -- more detailed than the "teaser" style often seen.
This keeps me subscribed, as I know I can opt out after one or two minutes when he covers stuff I either already know, or am uninterested in for some other reason. It works out as about evens whether I watch to the end or quit at the title sequence. And that works for me, and works for the channel as it is a better hit rate than if I unsubbed after a video that was not relevant to me.
Session has great potential
@@Влади́мирВлади́мировичПу́т-е1ш A lot of people are switching to Signal. Telegram is less secure and privacy respecting than Signal, but there are probably already some of your contacts that use it.
@Rob Braxman Tech it is funny how you spread misinformation on Matrix while praising XMPP. This is so ridiculous, but maybe it is because you use XMPP yourself, and , thus, there is a confirmation bias towards it.
Indeed Matrix offers almost everything which XMPP does, but does improve on:
- Encryption: You can access all your encrypted messages on any (new) device and even web browser sessions. It scales more and works flawless on all clients that support encryption, because Matrix uses MEGOLM-encryption.
- Verification: XMPP requires you to verify every device of your contacts with every device you own. This is just impossible to achieve in practice, especially if you create a new session spontaneously as you would have to meet with every contact of you before you start communicating. Matrix has improved this such that you only need to verify each single person only once.
Remember: Verification prevents the servers to unnoticeably install modules which automatically decrypt your E2EE-messages.
- Decentralization: While in XMPP each conversation is centralized to one server, the conversations in Matrix are decentralized. This means that large parties like WhatsApp, Google, etc. CANNOT destroy Matrix like they did 10 years ago with XMPP. With Matrix each server has equal rights, while in XMPP one single server controls the conversation.
- Servers & Clients: contrary to XMPP they are all compatible
False statements about Matrix:
- Matrix running on many servers is only theoretical: Actually, it is very practical. There are about 45.000 Matrix servers, some of them run by schools, governments (France, Germany), universities, companies, individuals or nice people as a free service like tchncs.de
- Running Matrix server is resource intensive/hard, and thus theoretical: While it might be that it is more resource intensive than XMPP, Matrix has no problems at running on a Raspberry PI.
- Most people are on Element.io servers. This is wrong. They are on matrix.org servers, because Element defaults to it.
- Centralized Metadata through vector.im: It is not central (everyone can choose a arbitrary identity server). It is optional (for automatic discovery through phone numbers). It does not collect any meta data: It just tells you the username belonging to a phone number if the person owning that phone number wants that.
- Identity server is called by all servers: The identity server is called by clients (optionally)
- Matrix is meant for social groups: Not true. Matrix is a protocol for communication. It can be used for anything. Element is meant for instant messaging & team messaging.
- End-To-End-Encryption is not automatic: It is automatic and enabled by default in Element.
False statements about XMPP:
- XMPP is very popular: It was very popular, but has been abandoned by various companies like google and Facebook(WhatsApp).
- no one in XMPP can read the contents of messages (not even the servers): Since verification in XMPP is very hard, almost no one verifies his/her contacts (respectively all their devices). Thus, XMPP servers can unnoticeably read your messages through MITM attacks.
I'm doing my best to do basic educate on "clean tech" to my circle of influence and I'm recommending your videos heavily, Rob. So many of my friends are completely ignorant of threats from Google and Facebook, etc. and have no idea that they can make small changes to disrupt tracking. You are filling a void with your work and it is much appreciated, my friend!
You should definitely checkout elastos.info/ . The today s Internet is broken and have become centralized. We the people need a new web where everyone owns their own Data!! #ownYourData
Do you revomend and alternative to Google and youtube?I dont have Facebook
@@lunes-1 Some recommend ProtonMail. I'm not sure about 'em. Personally I'd just rather build my own email server, set up encryption..
@@cammeekins576 good idea and point about individual privacy and security
However, it is actually not that the Internet is broken nor the WWW, rather it was intentionally arranged.
Are You aware the internet was originally developed for US DARPA, then released for use into the public domain in later 1980s [see Anita Jones, company head who developed it, sold to Raytheon Technology Corp., board member In-Q-Tel [IQT], along with Peter Thiel [known, established Builderberger].
Then cellular mobile communications developed then too, with merging them in later 2G, improvement in each Generation [now 5G], with nearly every human having a pocket computer phone device from the poorest to richest countries for nearly a decade.
They have vast amounts of detailed information collected, stored, accessible, retrievable, searchable for over a decade and for many into two, three and more through each Generation!
The Nazi's collected data about its citizens and residents just via physician visits records, used rudimentary data machines (founder of IBM) and were able to accomplish their massive collection, round up, encampment of people, murder of 12 Million, especially the Benei Yisroeil/Yidden/Jews/Hebrews [6 Million]!
Imagine what these Globalists/Elite/Illuminati/Committee of 300/NWO/UN/BIIA/BITC Eugenicists can do and are plotting?!
Sincerely
I'm sure that would apply to everyone I know; most having iPhones, ugh
I'm beginning to think the best privacy action to take is just don't talk to anyone...lol
It is in the least number of cases the message content which is important to someone. It is your metadata.
@Upgrayedd It's not even the governments who are the threat, it's companies.
I get about 700 tracking requests every single day on my mobile. All of them are with a commercial backgound. Location, things I buy and look at, contacts, what I read ... and most by google, amazonaws, facebook (without anything by facebook installed and with no facebook account!), or by companies who promise customer insights to their clients, or by my phone's maker Xiaomi.
Most of these trackers are hidden inside installed apps, not inside Android, except wifi geofencing. Google apps have mostly google trackers, but also some facebook trackers. Weather apps and messengers are the worst with up to 15 trackers in one single app.
I'd say I have blocked more than 90 % of that. But it is a lot of work.
Or you can physically mail a letter. Old tech is sometimes best
then remove your utub account
Kir Rider 🤣🤣 You are right! After watching several of this guys vids . I’m starting to look at my phone as an enemy. Like seriously contemplating getting rid of my phone!
This channel is going to be very important in the coming months ans this year.
Get Odysee.com to switch from YT. He's Rob Braxman on Odysee
@@sweetlife4us902 how do I switch to 240p on that website? It eats up my data =(
Exactly ....and STOP BUYING FROM AMAZON!!!
@@LIL1RAE why?
Thank you for making the intro music more easy to listen too.. very much appreciated. I’m glad you are here.
I love how you said "by three letter agencies" haha
Shhhhh
Alphabet Bois.
@@mustbeekiddinfarm1629 Haha, never fails to crack me up :)
Thats an old term thats been used for decades in Washington DC.
If you cut out a persons tongue,you’re NOT proving them to be a liar you’re only proving that you are SCARED of what that person may have to say to the world ! 😉
Plus he can just write it down like this quote lol
This breakdown should have 10x, maybe 100x more views than it currently has. Damn good review, Rob.
Would love if you did a deep dive on Telegram sometime
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Especially on just how secret a secret chat is. The reset is pretty cool.
I was looking for that exactly.
It is really bad thing.when you have to protect yourself from. Your on government
But but it is for the greater good. Never know when or where a Chy nah spy might be lurking...
Gonna get EXPONENTIALLY WORSE come JAN 21!!!
Seems like it doesn’t matter what we use. We’re dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t... What about just buying burner phones and change it out every 3/6 months. ?? Not as convenient and functionality cumbersome but doesn’t use 5G and makes us less vulnerable...
It’s always been this way, people just don’t pay attention to history
All government is evil. Limited government just happens to be a necessary evil to help limit criminals. Any government only works when those in government have integrity. This is the problem with government in the US, integrity has disappeared, at all levels. Sad!
the best instant messaging is running a XMPP instance on a Raspberry PI with e2e encryption, you are encrypted and.. you own the server. Whoever uses a public service, should automatically assume your data isn't your own and your messages are kept.
Hmmm.
Great stuff Brax. You're a legend! keep up the good work in 2021.
Great video and explanation... I like session the most b/c it does not require a phone number. I feel liberated due to this factor. I have to stay away from FB products.
Thank you Rob. I seriously want to become a client of yours! I am not tech savvy so be patient. I don't care about how much this costs because I believe Christians have always had a target on our backs and I believe that you are part of the solution. Mark in Seattle
Join us on Brax.Me ...Where lots of smart people hang out, (as well as some wildcards.)
Good day Rob Braxman. Recently I began to be interested in what is happening in the world of information security. The deeper I plunged into this world, the more scary it becomes for my anonymity on the Internet.
On the right, I wanted to thank you for covering and promoting these useful topics on the Internet. I myself am from Russia and I watch your videos by translating subtitles. Because of this, a lot of things remain unclear.
In this commentary, I would like to receive answers to my questions.
I'll start with the pre history. At the moment I own a PC, iPhone 8, MacBook Air 11 2015. It is very unpleasant for me to realize that every time I open an application or give access to my geolocation. And I just use MY gadgets, all information is collected and sent to Apple servers to "improve user experience". Therefore, I am planning to change my gadgets for others.
For example:
1) Buy a smartphone and install LineageOS on it.
2) Buy a laptop and install Linux on it.
Please tell me, using a smartphone based on LineageOS without Google services, will I be "more protected" from surveillance compared to an iPhone? Is ubuntu touch alive, or other mobile Linux os? Tell me, what do you use, and what can you advise to buy from devices in open sale?
For the earlier, YOU BIG THANKS!
(The translate was via google translate, the original text is below)
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Доброго времени суток Rob Braxman. Недавно начал интересоваться что происходит в мире информационной безопасности. Чем глубже я погружался в этот мир, тем страшнее мне становится за свою анонимность в интернете.
Справа я хотел поблагодарить вас, за то что вы освещаете и продвигаете данные полезные темы в интернете. Сам я из России и смотрю ваши виде при помощи перевода субтитров. Из-за этого много чего остается непонятным.
В данном комментарии, я хотел бы получить ответы на интересующие меня вопросы.
Начну с пред истории. В данный момент я владею ПК, iPhone 8, MacBook Air 11 2015. Мне очень неприятно осознавать, что каждый раз когда я открываю приложение или даю доступ к своей геолокации. Да и просто пользуюсь СВОИМИ гаджетами, вся информация собирается и отправляется на серверы Apple, для "улучшения пользовательского опыта". Поэтому я планирую поменять свои гаждеты на другие.
Например:
1) Купить смартфон и установить на него LineageOS.
2) Купить ноутбук и установить на него линукс.
Скажите пожалуйста, пользуясь смартфоном на базе LineageOS без Гугл сервисов, буду ли "сильнее защищен" от слежики, по сравнению с айфон? Жива ли убунту тач, или другие мобильные линукс ос? Скажите чем вы пользуетесь, и что вы можете посоветовать купить из устройств в открытой продажи?
За ранее БОЛЬШОЕ ВАМ СПАСИБО!
Happy New Years Rob, congrats on 100k+ and thank you for all your work and informative privacy videos this year!
"You never have to worry about your messages being read". You preach it! Trying to reach 4k colleagues with IT related stuff myself, I know how it feels when your messages are not being read. MS Analytics shoves it into my face every time.
I just discovered you and, man, you are a ROCK STAR! I am working my way through your videos.
I don’t know if you are on Gab, but its founder just announced a Gab phone that’s on the way. I would be interested in hearing your take on it when it comes out.
1000s, of hours of research within a few minutes siimplefied. Worth every second of the time. Thank you....
Threema is my personal favorite. Incredibly secure, requires zero personal information to signup, trustworthy team, privately owned company, open source, audited, and excellent UX.
I’d suggest revisiting their documentation for what information is uploaded and how things like contacts are managed. From what I remember, they do a much better job of mitigating any privacy concerns of uploaded contacts if you choose to do so, though I’m not sure why you’d sync you contacts with Threema in the first place, as anonymity is one of the main reasons people use it over others.
7:58 There is signal desktop
and you can use it simultaneously with your phone. I use the "Note to Self" (Channel) like an inter-device clipboard.
bot owner - Thanks. I'm going to see if I can get it on my desktop, just installed it on my cell phone tonight.
@@BosssyBear same , I've been on desktop and mobile!
could this get more upvotes please?
I did also get the desktop version and it worked very well. I even send a video through there from my computer that had already been taken off my phone.
Kudos for presenting the name of the current tool/software on the screen that you were discussing. I wish more UA-cam folks would do this as it makes it so easy to get to exactly where you want to listen or review.
Thank you for the video.
I was initially leaning towards Element mainly because of decentralization but will now rethink my options.
Hello Rob, what a great channel for learning about privacy, has been a year that I follow it and each video is something to learn and think about and this is massive. I thought about Threema and ways it works. I thought that by not entering email and phone number privacy check was filled. Now I have to rethink.....thank you. Happy holidays..
Good God! Keeping up with this is a full time job! I still have an old flip phone around here somewhere.
It’s so hard to follow all of the techy terms. I just want to download an app and be able to use it, not to have to convince all my friends and family to use it too!
Happy New Year, Rob! Thank you for the detailed information - as always perfectly presented. Yes, you are heard! Seems that, finally, there is more awareness for the importance of privacy. Congrats for the many subscribers, well done!
I never thought of email as an example of federation. That's brilliant!
You are a respectful person. Thanks for this wonderful guide. Have been a fan since you had probably 70-80k subscribers.
Do one on social media platforms. Especially after big tech going nuclear.
Yes please
Definitely!
For Matrix: You can choose any server you want (also on Element) and you can specify the identity server you want to use, but most would want to use a central server here I would say (if you want to use an identification server at all, you can always deactivate it) and since one year or so, phone numbers are hashed there too. E2E encryption is also activated automatically on new 1 to chats 1 in latest versions of Riot/Element (maybe also groups, haven't checked). I also like the easy E2E verification methods in Element, that also work comfortably over phone. I haven't seen another app, that makes this so easy. Since it's federated it has the same problems (related to privacy) and advantages as XMPP. But I think the fact that there is one good multi platform client (Element) gives it a huge advantage over XMPP. The only issue is that most people just use the matrix.org server. But that's the choice of the user and not the problem of Matrix itself. Personally I would recommend Matrix over XMPP for most user right now.
Yes, groups are also e2ee by default on Element.
@@qq84 private groups
What about Wire? It is end to end encrypted, and can be used without a phone number, and supports all the features like VOIP, groups etc, of mainstream programs.
You'd be surprise on Reddit that everyone gets an orgasm whenever you mention it and get a F ton of downvotes. Although it has a problem of it's metadata you can use it in a limited action to reduce your prints at a maximum level and even it's business-focused it still work as a personal messenger and I don't have to send my phone number to a U.S company.
A happy, healthy and higher minded new 2021 Rob Brax, thx for your work, switching to Odysse now ;-)
Happy new year
Great work, Rob. You help open all our eyes. Happy New Year :)
Man, would i like to get together with you and get my internet life in order.
I use the signal app on my Linux computer all the time.
I use it on my Mac as well and can send texts from either device as needed with no issues.
Session requires no phone number.
He's truly security "expert".
@@wiktorwektor123 Say wut?
Uhum.. Gnu/linux
-richard stallman
Thanks for this Rob. Very detailed and informative.
And there I was thinking I was safe from WhatsApp cos I live in Europe and don’t and have had a Facebook account. But now I see that other family members like siblings who have Facebook Instagram and the likes have compromised me lol..
21:15 whatsapp - "dump it"! It has intentional data collection on you.
Me four!
@Dianne Flabbot Rob Braxman recommends Lbry and Odysee, so I will sign up for those.
This video on encrypted im clearly communicates your level of knowledge across the board. Every one of your examples are spot on and your clarificatons are excellent. Your grasp of the material and how you share the information is insightful, to share, threema has resolved an issue you mentioned. You address an area that has this planet at risk, including our nation.. Keep on keeping on.. Kudos.,
Signal does work on a computer!! It also works on Linux!!
Though I don't know if the linux is PC, linux phone, or both. I'd guess both.
He is so wrong with signal that I'm not sure how reliable the rest of the information in the video is.
So video should mostly be used as an overview of the current IM technology though own research is needed for the correct decision.
Linux on phone and PC support same apps... So yes Signal is available for any major platform: Windows, MacOS, Linux, Android and iOS.
Yes, but you need your phone close to use signal on other platforms, on telegram you can use it without phone for example
It's just a client that connects to your phone and accesses the network through it. That's not really a standalone app. You still need your phone for that. Whatsapp is also like that. You don't need that with other messengers, Telegram for example.
@@cnesko He wasn't wrong at all. You just didn't get him.
Rob, in the video, you state that Signal only works with iOS and Android. There are also options for PC and Mac. If you send a text on the phone, it appears in your PC's history. However, messages sent from the PC (tested with Windows and iOS), so not appear on the phone's chat history.
Love this channel. Looking into a De-googled phone.
Good timing for this video considering the censorship that's going on ❤️
I’ve been using Signal for years. It is easy to use and more importantly, it’s easy to get friends and family to adopt.
An absolutely intelligent subject rob ..thanks ...
Thanks!
Rob braxman what about wire app? Your opinion about it ??
I thought Wire was more of a VOIP app. Will look at it some more
@@robbraxmantech Heard that Wire is secure, but proprietary software. I would be pleased to learn more about it.
You are a very loving person, and very true towards your profession ,I respect you happy life.
I second that! Thank you for your contributions to this world!
Rob, THANK YOU for doing your thing! You're a very cool YT creator.
Dude. I love your channel. It is going to blow up. I guarantee it.
Thank you! You are good man. God bless.
you hit the nail #1 mentioning they are "for profit" companies. so many dont even consider that, let alone those who dont even know what that is.
remember the days of pidgin
Rob, a few remarks on Threema, though.
Yes, I does support (video) calls, that's implemented a few month ago.
Threema does not store the contactlist. (Meaning all your contacts) it keeps a hash of the Threema ID and returns this for connection request (a phonenumber isn't required for Threema, and even if there is one, it won't be in the hash. All of this happens in temp. Memory and is discarded the moment the match is 'up and running'. So, there is no list of who is "friends" with whom.
Threema also strips metadata and makes even sure that the 'notification payload' is empty, it's just for waking up the app.
Yes, it does use "central servers" but why is that a problem? It isn't peer-to-peer, so servers are needed. But it provides E2EE encryption, FS and the server doesn't store data any longer than necessary. (The little data it has)
About the public keys storage, I don't see the problem here. Since the are mended to be public by nature. (Its the private key that counts)
Many thanks Rob for your enlightenment throughout 2020...I wish you strength and perseverance in your mission for 2021..may you and your family stay strong ...
I feel like he is speaking a foreign language. Think I need an entry level video that lays out the basics and I can go from there.
Thanks for your great work, have a happy and prosperous New Year from Australia. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
7:50 correction: Signal also works on desktops too, and can be used simultaneously on desktop and phone.
It's just a client that connects to your phone and accesses the network through it. That's not really a standalone app. You still need your phone for that. Whatsapp is also like that. You don't need that with other messengers, Telegram for example.
needs phone at the very least.
I've never heard of any of them except whatsapp. Thank you for these videos!
@Rob braxman what about wire app?
I am using wire as an alternative for whatscrap.
It offers alternatives: Either use a phone number or e-mail. And you don't have to give your number if you login via phone number. It creates a wire ID that you can give.
And it does not notify people in your contact list that you are using wire. Also it does not allow anyone to message you unless you give that person permission.
The one disadvantage would be that if you connect an e-mail to it, the vulberability can be in the association with that e-mail account.
However, you can make use of disinformation and only use an e-mail that is created for this purpose. (I personally prefer using the e-mail not the phone numbers , which is more _convenient_).
I also have session as an alternative. And session requires absolutely nothing to login.
And it is multiplatform as well, like wire is.
I'd add WIRE to the list. Open source. No phone number needed to sign up. End-end encryption. Finger print ID to verify device's. MacOS and linux desktop apps.
I stopped trusting Wire ever since they were bought by that US holding company and shifted their attention to enterprise customers instead of consumer features.
Hey Brax, I appreciate all that you do and educating and pushing security and privacy amongst users. I am curious, is there a reason you didn't consider Wire as a secure messaging app? I was drawn by the fact that I didn't have to provide an email and its cross platform. Is there something I am missing?
I searched for Briar and I got this video, I just wanted to know about Briar, I installed it, it's a great app
Why wasn't Jami (former GNU Ring) included? It's completely made for privacy and several years older than Signal and Briar.
Probably because it's buggy. I tried it and it didn't work properly
Yeah it's peer-to-peer, and does not require a phone number or any ID of any kind, completely anon. Works on all platforms.
I love your videos and found you just in time to help me make my decision about a replacement for Facebook Messenger when I dump Facebook. Great job!
I am surprised why you didn't pick threema as your choices? And the app even went open source just recently.
Amy particular reason, I quite like it. The no number registration is what pulled me to it. (I would use signal, but it requires a number)
Didn't you watch the video? Threema collects CONTACT LISTS on a central server
@@robbraxmantech I'm not sure why you consider xmpp more suitable than matrix. I run my own server, just as you can with xmpp, and you have a specific address, much like an email address just as you do with xmpp, and don't have to register with an identity server. In fact, the default is to not register with an identity server. You actually have to go into the settings and manually do it. Furthermore, it has some of the best encryption available right now, and you can do things like de-authenticate devices you no longer trust. Such as if a phone gets lost at a protest, for example.
@@robbraxmantech Isn't this an option to use contact list in the settings, and can be switched on/off by user?
@@robbraxmantech But isn't this optional? During the setup process you can opt out of sharing your contact list along with not having to use an email or phone number. Sure it requires then sharing your ID some other way, but then those centralised mapped IDs aren't tied to anything as long as those end users created and friended each other over VPN or locally over QR code. Am I missing something?
Regards from Poland! Happy 2021 New Year!
Matrix is far more superior than xmpp. It's e2ee in default (you wrongly said it's not, which is true for xmpp not for matrix). you don't have to trust the other person that he's using omemo.
Lots and lots of clients only use otp, which doesn't even encrypt the files sent, rather only text messages.
Matrix also supports lot's of bridges. That people use the default matrix server is their fault. XMPP isn't great for privacy, you can read the article from privacy handbook blog.
P.s: conversion.im is free on f-droid ;) so you don't have to pay.
I really wish you read my comment. Thanks
Briar: you are right that it is always an important question how initial contact is made via peer to peer with a known identifier that is not on the local network segment/wifi/Bluetooth.
One way this can be organised is by the apps themselves passing on messages that say Ident1 is on IP and asks Ident2 to get in touch. For privacy protection both these idents should be hashed in some way, otherwise any other user of the app can collect metadata.
I have no idea if Briar does this or uses a central server, let alone if they do it in a way that maintains privacy, but am just pointing out that it is possible in principle for p2p to be fully decentralized. P2p file storage has been implemented like this, for example
Briar used to demand that users physically scan QR codes of contacts' public keys to import them into their clients, but that's obviously cumbersome for remote contacts, so they compromised and allowed key distribution via the same way Signal currently does. Participants have to verify fingerprints out-of-band... somehow. That exercise is left up to the reader.
Nodes on the Loki (now rebranded to Oxen) network, get paid in Oxen, not Monero. The cryptocurrency itself is a fork of Monero, but now is quite different, as it's a Proof of Stake network, not Proof of Work, and has a bunch of other features. The monetisation plan was released recently.
I would have liked to see LINE messenger included, which has an awesome companion for Windows and Mac OS.
Line doesn't use a phone number to identify peoplecand doesn't reveal the user's phone numbers, and the user can choose NOT to let it scan the address book for friends who use it too, thus avoiding uploading contacts to some servers.
It uses encryption, has groups and voice or video calls.
On iOS it can run in an iPhone AND an iPad simultaneously, sadly not on Android phone + tablet yet.
The Windows or Mac companion can always run simultaneously to the mobile devices.
@@winstonsmith77 this is BS for a standard smartphone user
line is korean government oriented app. it’s not japanese app.
it’s a basic knowledge that line steals every information including payment and geolocation. it’s deadly as north korea. you can search the dangers of line in japanese community. really watch out for line.
@@winstonsmith77 I’m a newbie thanks for information 🇬🇧
@@winstonsmith77 thank you 🙏
Session is awesome
But flakey...
Happy New Year Rob! Here's to another 100k subs!
Signal originally created by three letter agency...not so sure if all that secure, research who is funding it.
Yeah, that "three letter agency" is "Open Whisper Systems" (OWS). So shady. So scary! 😱
It's the same people who created the internet and encryption. Actually, their projects got leaked and now they can't control encryption and secure protocols UNLESS they have a backdoor. So far Signal doesn't have a backdoor but there' a lot of questions about their funding and who's behind the project. I personally believe Moxie is just a front character and the shadow people are behind the real work. I still use it with my friends but I'd try to get them to switch to threema if possible
At 7:56 you mentioned that Signal only works with iOS and Android platforms. This is not true since I am using it right now with the PC desktop app. I think this is a relevant correction. Very informative video still!
yes its in the description
Could you use screen shots of the apps in videos. Thanks!
A gem of a channel.
What about Telegram?
for short explanation Telegram isnt secure not encrypted by default the encryption key is on their server planning to add ads on their platform and they build their own not open source encryption in their house lol so thats a BIG NO! I would say that Telegram is worse than Whatsapp
@@beahinampas3015 Telegram has secret chats that are encrypted on endpoints and are not stored on servers. In addition, in these chats, you can set a timer for deleting correspondence, which is very convenient. Even if your terminal device falls into dirty hands, the correspondence will probably be deleted by this time.
@@db0nd And what's the encryption they use? their built in house encryption!? No thank you! Who's gonna do that every time they make new chat to their friends? Facebook messenger have that but no one use it lol! and on timer for deleting messages if we talking about normal message even you set a message to delete in specific time those messages store to their servers so oof! so good luck on that and one more thing Telegram have the encryption key to decrypt your message on their server so no mattter what you use secret or normal (well the normal one is the worse not to mention the group chat) your fucked. So I think Telegram is much worse than Whatsapp because atleast they just collect the metadata of the messages thats ok than storing all your messages in the server that isn't encrypted. Well if some hackers want to hack Telegram those hackers dont need to break the TELEGRAM encrytion just need to fucked the server lol
@@db0nd One more thing this is the last Telegram is planning to add ads to their platform lol! if that's not enough then your fan boi of Telegram! Remember no matter what you say or how you explain it ads is a ads and thats a bad news lol
@@beahinampas3015 Advertising is not good. But this is good news at the same time. This gives us an understanding of the source of funding for the telegram. Or would you rather know that Russian secret services are paying for your communication in telegrams. Or would you rather pay to use the messenger? The question is about money - where will it come from to support the infrastructure? PS: Durov promised that telegram ads would not be annoying.
Thank you for your work and content Rob Braxman. Awesome stuff. I hope you, me and everyone in the world has a less orwellian year in 2021. All the best from England 👍
We are the people! If everybody switched to open source soft- and hardware, all data miners would disappear easily. It's customer's wish that make companies grow or go. In the end, Google and Facebook are only companies. More difficult is three letter agency spying.You have to re- create true democracy. This work is far more difficult. Have a happy New Year!
Signal works with 3 devices and they have a desktop client for linux, windows, and ios for ipads.
... and MacOS
Thank you. You are such a skillful and knowledgeable individual. I am taking your recommendation.
Very intelligent, when you have ADHD it is overwhelming, how I would like to follow and retain what you are saying, but sometimes I feel just tell me what to do and how
1.75 x speed helps
I did that, too.
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Everyone feels that way. It’s not an ADD thing.
Happy New Year! Thank you for making great videos and share with all your knowledge.
Signal now supports Windows, Mac and Linux as well.
Signal partnering with Microsoft, Skype using Signal code in some way is concerning. Does anyone know more about this?
For "normal users" and general crowds I'm more for Telegram, which features are so many that it beats Signal anyway.
Thank you!, Happy New Year!🎄🎇🎂
Same to you!
I note that when I download a keyboard application for my Android phone, Google warns me that the keyboard is perfectly capable of leaking everything I type to the developer's servers (and by extension, I should use Google's keyboard). I'm not sure that I would ever consider my Android device secure or private.
Happy new Year, mr. Rob!
Which one has Antifa and BLM been using ? That one seems pretty secure
Yep protected by the three letter government agencies
@@KoDeMondo Nah, its the Leftist big tech companies
They just really aren’t that sophisticated or intelligent. They probably use a FB group.
It’s easy to communicate about criminal activity when the government is willing to ignore some groups and lie about others.
@@LinA-it9vd Which strengthens my opinion that big tech facilitates Leftist agitators, while anything right of center is immediately deplatformed by them.
What gets me is that China cuts the internet or changes the electoral system and its big news, but Indonesia has been doing that for decades and not a whisper in mainstream news media... Being able to have secure conversations is more important than most people seem to realise.
Most of matrix servers don't even ask for E-Mail and phone numbers, so they can't even save them
And for one that ask for E-Mail, I just use mailinator to set up a burner, and then delete the email association in the setting once I register.
He is talking about them saving the contact details (such as phone number and mail address) of your contacts in your address book
You make everything so easy to understand. Thank you for your vigilance
no telegram ?
@Ekstesi telegram is open source, as far as I know
I use Signal on PC; Linux and WIndoze. All of the time
So do I but it has aspects of its code base that is closed
@@stultuses You mean it calls GMS libraries for FCM support? You know that's not strictly required, right? In fact, the Molly fork of Signal doesn't use FCM at all, only websocket, and interoperates with the Signal servers just fine. Both are fully open-source. You're just nitpicking about which libraries they choose to link against.
Need his take on telegram now
Great that you keep the name you're talking about on the screen. Thanks for great info.
Where's Telegram?
Because supposedly is not so good (private).
@@sachaabreu4704 " supposedly"? No app is secure...
Meaning even less then others jajaja
I have been using Signal ever since Apple proved they cannot keep messages private :) On my iPhone and Mac, as well as my laptop (Windows 10.) Works great.
I wish Telegram was analyzed like this.
Signal has had desktop clients for Linux, Windows, and Mac for years. You can use your phone and one or more desktop clients simultaneously without problem. "The Hated One" has a video claiming that Signal has switched its server source code from open to proprietary. Do you know anything about that?
go session messenger! monero for the win
Threema, which is based in Switzerland, where you have very strict privacy laws, gives one a lot of comfort.
Telegram?
IT's the most used app after whatsapp, has tons of features and is the best for 'normal' people. Even tho it's founder, Durov seems like a guy who cares about privacy a lot and seems credible. He even left Russia after they wanted the keys from him. The app isn't open source and it uses phone number and the End to end encryption is done in weird way. There is the true end to end only in secret conversations. In group chats and normal conversations its a bit different. That is why he didn't include it but it is still really a solid option imo. This channel is just extremely paranoid and really into the absolute safe stuff.
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