Anime is NOT EDGY... LETS FIGHT.
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Anime is not edgy. We are.
Who created it though lol
we r edging rn
We've been pushed over the edge.
@@imaguyhello5457 the highlight if the decade lol
Elfen Lied exists
I love this “Joey Bizinger” channel has gradually become the old “TheAnimeMan” channel
I think he kind of wanted to remove pressure he had on his shoulders of being locked into anime only and increasing his own standards over time. Now he feels more free to do whatever he wants here because "its not the main thing" while basically on hiatus on the main channel
Maybe not the hiatus, but shifted into modern content I guess
@@_mishi Seems like a good idea. Now he can pick and choose between anime and the more general stuff without having it all mixed up.
We need The Anime Man SOMEWHERE
'theanimeboomer'
Who also thinks joey should change his main channel name to "the manga lad"
No you dont do that when you have an established brand
@@Donovarkhallum joke
People need to assume things are jokes more than not😅
@@waveybooo it's too easy in current era for people to say dumb things and then be like uhm it was a joke. sure dude. That's just backpedaling.
@@Donovarkhallum ok snowflake
The second half of Oshi no Ko was fine. People just overhyped it from that one scene and expected the show to go down the Deathnote route, when most of the first episode was as goofy as the rest of the series.
This. Personally I prefer the other episodes to the first one. I also read the manga afterwards.
I was caught up with the manga and what I am gonna say is that they just wanted us to meet the characters and their situations a bit before all the shit goes down, later on 2 plot twists happen that hooked me in on the manga, but there was nothing to read anymore I was caught up, I think the second season is gonna have a bigger bang personally.
I love Oshi No Ko because the story kinda same vibe as Act-Age manga. I don't really care if the mystery aspect is kinda bad or great since my focus is the twins growing up as an actor/idol just like Act-age manga.
also, the hook from the first episode will play a part later
I still enjoyed it the whole season after episode 1. Of course, it has to take a slower pace. I was still entertained.
I completely agree with you about less Isekai. I'm so tired of looking for a fantasy show, finding one, and then it starting with a rando getting hit by a truck.
That whole genre is blighted by utter garbage. Saga of Tanya the Evil is the only good isekai and I'll stand by that.
.hack is the only one I've liked ever. I hate harem anime too. Besides tenchi muyo
you'd be shocked to know that almost every isekai doesn't have that start. it's just a massive meme in the anime community.
there's either
MC gets killed while protecting someone
gets killed by some random murderer
dies from an unknown cause
actual traffic incident (not always trucks)
or
mc gets summoned to the other world
mc and a handful of people get summoned to another world
mc and a handful of people get trapped in a new world and have to find a way out, if there even is one.
sometimes it's a reincarnation story where the past life actually matters, others it's just being stuck in a new world and trying to make the most of it
@@anitaremenarova6662 never seen it myself, but i feel like you haven't watched much isekai
try world's finest assassin, and tensura
@@CallieBlader I know that start isn't common, I just used the meme to express my exasperation
One of the best “Let’s Fight” episodes I’ve seen, but your Patreon people need to up their game as many of the topics south like hot takes from middle school and younger.
The devil man thing is like watching Akira for the first time and thinking that motorcycle slide is a bit played out innit
Basically the John Carter problem, took to long to adapt the original source that by the time it finally gets adapted it get compared to everything that it inspired.
The question is... how much has garnt spent on FGO compared to that person. More? Less? Deadman Wonderland needs the brothers treatment, same with Soul Eater
samurai shamploo does have one the best OST.
R.I.P Nujabes
Yep,
Yup Nujabes was the truth and revolution for current Japanese urban lounge style, vibe and attire. Rest in Peace King ❤
I'm so glad you're doing these kinds of videos again.
Funny thing about how they should make more cyberpunk stories, because I think there's a LN about a demon king/lord being resurrected 500 years after his defeat and his world became a cyberpunk world
Oho? And what’s it called?
@@Wolfedge75 Demon Lord 2099
fuck Isekai
That guy that tried to say Chainsaw Man is dogshit after 6 episodes is insane. That shit took off running after 6 episodes. Some of the best episodes are in those later episodes. Insane take.
I saw KanEDGY and I clicked. It has been long since I consumed anything Tokyo Ghoul😂
I love so much, that you brought this series back!
Well, I guess I've been fought now.
let's fight
Ya know, when it comes to Shinichirou Watanabe directed shows, I'm kind of missing a mention of Zankyou no Terror in both categories of directing and OST...
even if the story was what it was
Joey that last anime you watch was back in 2010 😂
he watched hunter x hunter so was 2011
That term 'edgy'. Like Lemmings standing on the edge of the cliff & turning to each other & asking "Shall We?!"
Such a great comparison, ironic when you consider that the entire idea of lemmings jumping off cliffs is false and created by a media company just to create video that would elicit an emotional response. It's pretty comparable. ;)
I feel like the anti edge culture has been pushed to the point of nothing being allowed to be good old dark gorey stupid fun anymore and it sucks because I unironically love edgy stuff. Funily enough I think all the edgy shows mentioned in this video (Besides Devilman) are ass though.
Devilman is just dark, can't recall much of it being edgy. Death Note is much worse in that regard, rewatching it as an adult makes me cringe at times.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Depends on your definition of edge, Death Note is a personal favorite of mine but like I said I'm very fond of edgy media so I won't bother arguing your points
I love the aesthetic of edgy anime, even if the story isn't very well written. Especially edgy mahou shoujo. They always somehow manage to have the coolest character designs.
Fun edge is amasing, edgy can be really fun if you are aware that it is edgy and its not to pretentious.
Loike batman, is classic edge done well and like really loved, ther is goofy batman too, but batman being edgy contrasted by something, is fun, if its not too pretentious.
@@marocat4749 I'm fine when it's played straight too tbh because it's either funny or actually cool too me
i love this series since u had it on ur main channel its so great good job joey best wishes
I can understand with the “filter” endings in anime.
Most of anime series I’ve watched just ended with no continuation or some kind of cliffhanger, or things have changed at the time.
Sure, there’s always other adaptations out there (such as, manga, light novels, or visual novels) for said series, but I would liked to experienced all of it as an whole in some way or something like that.
That's impossible you gotta read the source if you want the whole experience
Adaptations can't adapt everything due to time budget and fan reception
Fortunately Summer time rendering anime adapted the manga till the end in just 25 episodes. @@murderman8578
Its refreshing to hear that you enjoyed the Aku no Hana anime! I never read the manga but I really liked how they made the anime feel so uncanny valley with the design and rotoscoping. It really pushed a psychorror feel and it was super cool to me!
The anime version of Nobunaga Concerto also uses rotoscoping, and watching the behind-the-scenes of its creation made me love it even more!
On live action Anime.
Just because most that have been done, especially adaptations that use the real title, are so bad they've created a meme-worthy stereotype of how garbage they are does not mean someone with the correct understanding of both mediums and a vision that isn't just based on cashing out on a brand couldn't make really great live action anime adaptations.
It's just really hard to adapt across mediums. Animations allows for so much more freedom than live action does. That being said, I watch Kakegurui in live action and it was 1 for 1 spot on
Only realistic manga or anime should get live action like Monster.
animes dont need live actions evan if it is good.
17:50 Right in the feels man. I loved the characters and beginning portion of Tenjou Tenge when I was young. The middle having so many episodes dedicated to a flashback and then the lackluster ending still makes me sad. I gotta stop being lazy and read the manga.
Go read the manga. It's really good. Tho the very ending could've been better (as in more fleshed out), it's still quite good. Better than how Air gear turned out. (I still can't believe how normie!Soichiro isn't hotter given how both his parents look)
More cyberpunk animes, YES PLEASE!
Cyberpunk style animes of the 80s and sci-fi of the 90's were what got me into anime.
These are the types of videos i want , thank you
Amazing video Joey,fantastic job.
You have such an incredible discussion about DEVILMAN, I am beyonDDD impressed and amazed! Im a huge DEVILMAN fan and you have pointed out soooo many things that I could never see.❤😂❤😂😂❤❤❤
Keep up the awesome work and videos Joey love the video
Okay whoever sent in that Shounen take was kinda cooking.. need more of that rant
Man this series is a dose of nostalgia. Please keep this going.
Dang he seems to know a lot about Manga and anime. He should make an anime channel
For ppl who didn’t like CSM this next arc is pretty much the shibuya of CSM and it’s a movie
I felt the Hell arc was the shibuya of CSM
No its not even half of shibuya
Csm fell off after makimas arc
Glad to see the LETS FIGHT series has been migrated to this channel
I fell asleep when I watched Akira about 10 years ago. I thought maybe I just wasn't mature enough to understand back then or whatever, so I went to the cinema when it was re-released recently. I dozed off at around the same point as before lmao
As much as I appreciate Akira's visuals and the atmosphere of the first half, I don't think GITS or Edgerunners are even in the same universe
Wow that's a hot take! For me personally I saw Akira when I was about 16 years old and I was mostly bored out of my mind and didn't see what the hype was about, then I watched not too long ago I'm 26 now, and I loved it, I could understand and follow the plot much more I don't think it's because I'm just wiser now but also because I'm more open minded then I ever was as a dumbass kid so I started watching Ghost in The Shell Standalone Complex and wow it feels great to go back to these things and experience them as an adult
@@lazkraft7917 Yeah the second time I watched it I was definitely able to follow the plot better than the first time. I just didn't find it very interesting haha
It reminded me of 20th Century boys and Monster. Stories with a strong hook at the start, muddy+unfocused second half that feels dragged out and a convoluted ending that's unsatisfying/doesn't feel right.
Wow, I thought I was basically alone in this regard. I've heard a handful of people say it's "overrated" or typical hater stuff, but that's not quite how I felt.
I tried to watch it several times, but half way through I'm either falling asleep or trying my best to stay awake. It's not hard to follow, I just get so bored for some reason.
It re-released recently?!
Letss goo finally someone is mentioning indian curry respectfully cause nowadays it has became a literal meme
17:45 Also included with Tengo Tenje is Kenichi The Mightiest Disciple Season 2
( although I hear a rumor that they might actually finish it ... )
Finally some anime content after 10 decades !
Love these vids
Go Nagai has always been one of my favorites, but hey I’m old and he’s one of the few manga writers that I like that’s still alive.
There's a low-budget sci-fi thriller from 2013 called 'Coherence' that would be amazing as an anime film, or series of OVAs. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend.
The Anime Man is back!
thanks joey for the new watch list
was this live? i missed it then. just got to see this 9 hours latter. 😅
Love these vids 😂
I've been summoned by the title from 10 years ago.
Let's fight Electric Boogaloo 2. I'm all for another one lets go
Joey you should do a nonsense/house of ninjas hoodie collab. That would be sick. Just putting it out there
I don't know. I'm not a Oshi no Ko superfan, but I would say that the second half of the first season was as good as the first half. But then I don't think the opening episode was the best first episode of anime. It was kind of just fine.
@Joey Bizinger
16:00 WHAT I'M SAYING! Thank you ! I've been saying for awhile now, that we need more sci-fi/cyberpunk Anime and Manga today. We haven't gotten a dark gritty sci-fi Anime in a long long time. One of my favorites genre's in the medium honestly. 😭
LETS GOOOO NEW LETS FIGHT
I missed Let's Fight series
I never take people seriously when they start debating with the nostalgia argument. Basically you’re saying you’re mad that people aren’t dick riding what is popular right now, and your favorite show or media is out of date after it hit the 15 to 20 year mark and it has no value whatsoever today.. I’m the kind of person that believes if the creator knew what he was doing during that time, his work can hold up for many decades. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
A director *was* actually attached to the Akira live-action, that being Taika Waititi, he wanted to make an adaptation that was closer to the original manga. The reason that it apparently fell apart was because he wanted to cast a Japanese actor in the lead role whereas the studio wanted to cast a big name like Leonardo DiCaprio and they butted heads on that.
Totally unrelated to this video, but i wonder if Joey has changed his opinion on music albums since making the tierlists.
To that nostalgia person nah it actually is nostalgia. Going back and playing older games is really hard if you didn't play them in the past. Like i know Torment would be one if my favorite games of all time if I grew up with it but every time I've tried playing it it's impossible to get into.
Monster and Now and then, Here and There: "Are we a joke to you?"
"Fewer Isekais and more Cyber Punk" I couldn't agree more!
As a isekai lover i feel like most animes dont show the true love one gets from the mangas, and many mangas they choose as anime are the middle/low once, there are some really amazing isekai mangas
Toriko man I miss it so much I hope they rerelease it again some day so I can collect the manga
20:36 - it doesn't help that many of the shounen titles are the ones that get imported to other countries first.
dad's back with the anime content
Just to let you know I hear a sort of low buzzing, idk if that's from your mic or some other kinda noise but that's what I hear, otherwise great video.
the goat is back
2:50 This is not true. FGO does not explain the whole fate franchise. It's simply a different story. That's like saying Persona 5 is enough to understand Persona 4.
But I agree with the comment saying it's not that complicated. It really isn't. Outsiders just see 100 different titles and get scared. The fate anime alone are enough to understand 90% of fate lore. Or even better, read the VN instead of watching the anime.
Sidenote, I love how Joey knows everything about the KH timeline despite never playing it. Thank you Aki.
How to get people into Type-Moon:
1. Make them watch Fate/Zero and Fate/UBW
2. Let them fell down the rabbit hole by themselves
Joey talk About ANIME NO WAY!!
Ohh it's on 2nd channel make sense (at this point patreon is the only way to make Joey talk about anime even on the main channel).
Atleast it's a progress 🎉
Junji itos take on Frankenstein was great, it'd be good to have that art applied to classic horror movies
Off topic, Would you be able to discuss the controversy surrounding Hinako Ashihara's death and live action adaptation of her manga. I roughly understand the facts surrounding the case, but struggle to get a read on the public and industry sentiment from the perspective of Japan. It feels like it should be an industry changing thing, but does not seem to be
The Eminence in Shadow is.
a fellow connoisseur spotted
Looking great joey ❤❤
More like looking tired. Nonsense must be on that grind currently.
Well I think he looks great
In regards to the "nostalgia" topic, it goes both ways. Yes, people do dismiss older media by saying things like "it's just nostalgia", as Joey and the commenter said. You know, the _"it's old, I'm not gonna give it a chance, it's probably bad/worse than the new stuff"._ However the opposite happens constantly and you you see that every other day with "modern gaming is bad" videos. Cases where honestly they do sound like they prefer old things mostly *_because_* of nostalgia or an unwillingness to, not necessarily change, but accept something new. Not everyone is like that, but they definitely exist. But it is important to realize that not all old things are good. Likewise not all new things are bad. Far from it.
Good and bad things always exist, then and now; sometimes one more than the other I suppose. Maybe someone does think that modern things are worse. Fair enough, I guess, we all like different things. In regards to video games, I think that there are tons of new amazing games. Maybe they don't agree, but that doesn't matter, because I like what I like and so do they. Point being that you shouldn't dismiss older media just for being old, but there is plenty of good *_new_* stuff that if you dismiss it simply on the basis of it being new or even "popular" then are you better than those you criticize? I don't think so. You don't need to like or dislike anything, but being aware that people often like things you don't, and not for a lack of taste, is important.
I had a shit day and seeing some of these takes made my day not feel as shitty anymore
Feeling extremely validated after listening to Joey talk about the Aku no Hana anime. Agree 100%
yay i was wrong about devilman crybaby, now i can watch it knowing that it was an og and have a better thoughts about it.
The fate timeline isnt complicated at all, it makes sense, if you accept that most of the universe ,. yes has good basics and that, but it also kinda is mostly fanfic by th ecreator loosely held together , with a good story at the core and branching out from there. That somehow still is somewhat coherent together.
So no fate isnt complicated, you just have to let go its some hard magic everything is logical thing when a lot is like in universe fanfic stuff thats just integrated.. Good fanfic, that still has themes, but still.
15:50 meanwhile joey wears arasaka sweater from cyberpunk, no way you didnt planned it!
The take on oshi no ko I think the issue was the fact that the first episode was that long and with that plot twist, and then there was not drama in the anime tbh, later on in the manga it gets better and better with like 2 plot twists that I really liked I caught up to it when the anime was coming out, don't know about like the last 3 months, but still the manga got better and the anime made a mistake of starting off strong and then slowing down.
I just read the plot summary for Aku no Hana on wikipedia. Why is this so depressing? Seems kinda nice. Also extremely crazy. I guess the sad part is the crazy girl ends up alone? Like nobody died. It would have been depressing if they succeeded in lighting themselves on fire but they didnt and everyone is safe and fine at the end.
Metallic rouge, while not completely Cyberpunk, definitely gives the vibes
You know, like how pop punk is like a combination of the form of punk with the sound of pop? Sorta thing? Like, Devilman is that canonised?
First guy was def a troll lol
Also nice hair Joey, lookin fly!
It's been some time that I've read Alita but would it be considered cyberpunk at some point? I'm not sure where it belongs
Joey, who should I listen to now that The Peggies have broken up after stealing my heart?
i'm unreasonably happy that someone else knows Sakamichi no Apollon
I FUCKIN' agree, Joey! CY-BER-PUNK! CY-BER-PUNK! More, please??? 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Hello, Joey! I’m a huge fan of Ari Aster, myself. You probably have watched this, but in 2011 he made a short film called “the strange thing about the Johnsons.” It’s 30 minutes long and available on UA-cam if you haven’t checked it out already. It’s really well written and directed.
I’m the commenter. Are you saying it’s also anime material?
Been a long time since someone mentioned the disappointment that was Kado.
So here is the thing. Older content is a spectrum just like newer content is a spectrum. And yes there are some really good older stuff and bad older stuff. But it is also true that nostalgia and familiarity affect our appreciation of the content. This is a well-studied phenomenon and denying it is delusional.
Well said. There's no reason to deny that you like something because it's what you're familiar with. It's not a bad thing and doesn't invalidate your feelings. That being said your feelings, whether from nostalgia or personal preference or w/e also don't mean you're right and your preference is above someone else's.
NGL I've never had someone tell me "you only like that cz of nostalgia" or make it into a bad thing, it makes me think the person is a "back in my day things were better" type and complains that people disagree. I'm not saying it can't happen, but if you're minding your own business enjoying the things you like there won't be zoomers spawning next to you telling you you're only enjoying it cz of nostalgia.
15:58 esp in this AI moment we need more cyberpunk anime. To this day I ask younger and newer fans if they had ever seen GITS and I get blank stares. Its kinda shoxking how slept on it is
Technically GitS is post-human rather than cyberpunk, and to be fair the anime went downhill after SAC 2nd Gig.
@@markwatson8714 I'll give you that the movies post SAC aren't great. I actually somewhat enjoyed SAC 2045 and how topical it was when it was released
I think the only way to prove it is not nostalgia is if you never experienced the old thing until you are an adult and that thing is already old. Like I am 24, and my favorite musician is Eric Clapton. He inspired me to learn guitar. My mom is probably the worlds oldest Swiftie and never listens to rock music, and my dad was not in my life much as a kid and mostly listens to country music. I have no bias at all towards classic rock music from the 60s and 70s and purely like it for its own merits. Even someone like Joey, assuming he likes Clapton and Hendrix and such too, would have nostalgia for listening to it as a kid with his dad. I didn't get into Clapton until about 5 years ago and got my first guitar in 2020 when I was 20 years old. So I can, without a doubt, say it is not nostalgia.
Alright, since Joey talked about Devilman ending, I'm going to defend Erased's thirds to ending.
I think the ending is pretty good. It's literally the title, "Boku dake ga Inai Machi", "The Town Where Only I'm Erased".
If you're getting annoyed by the ending and disregarding the whole journey it took because of it, then the author had already accomplished his goal because that's the consequences for changing the past, someone had to take others place.
I think people who only watch mainstream anime suck. It's not fun talking about anime with them. Their favorite anime is always gonna be jjk, demon slayer, or aot. The best anime of all time to them is always gonna be either jjk, demon slayer, or aot. They're somehow more weeby than most anime fans who've watched almost every anime ever, and the worst offense of all, they don't even want to give any other anime a try. I don't like them not because they only watch mainstream. I don't like them because they perpetuate this notion that if it's not mainstream, it must suck. And because of that, shows that deserve more love and recognition never get to see the light of day, especially for new anime watchers. And in response to this, excellent japanese authors and mangakas will eventually have no choice but to follow the trend and we'll have a too much shounen, (cuz lets not lie, mainstream anime are pretty much just shounen anime) with nothing new and basic plots, or they'll just quit altogether because their work isn't being recognized. I'm tired of this. I just wanna read a good manga without it being axed 30 chapters in because it isn't getting the love it deserves.
Yo joey mentioned my Tenjou Tenge
I just wanna hug
a curry made with Keen's curry powder is MAX - gotta have carrot potato onion and at the end, an egg
another example of change in the end compare to the manga would be the first anime of FullMetal Alchemist
16:50 For me it's the opposite. I've read the manga but not watched the anime and this is the first time I hear that the anime has a different ending. Is it worth for me to watch the anime too?
I thought Joey was tired of doing let's fight
Wow. Joey looks so much like his dad right now.
Nah dawg! Parasite ost is the god. That dubstep is so good and was so hype. I felt 'locked in' everytime it played.