As someone who used to play dualie squelchers and has a five alarm helmet filled with run speed from maining hydra, I think this weapon might be destined for me.
I tested object shredder a lot. The short answer is that it does a lot honestly, and adds a very respectable amount of value when dealing with objects of all sorts. HOWEVER being a fairly good OS weapon doesnt cut it. I think a weapon needs to be exceptionally good with OS to justify the skill slot, especially in the current meta. Whats OS going to do against cooler? Or Zooka? Or Jet? There were a lot of games where OS had almost zero impact, and I dont think the value I got in the games where it was useful justify the slot.
Here is my dulles build 2 main ink saver(i just like it it makes me fell like i can actually battle if i am forsed to use dodge rolls and a main of ink recovery because even though i dont run out of ink to mutch when i do its almost a definite splat for the enimies and 2 subs of run speed up one sub of intensify action( im new at dulles hopping) 3 subs of special charge up is realy good in my game play, one sub resistance, one ink resistance, one quick super jump in my opinion i realy like this and its super fun but i really like your gear build to chase😎
I have to try these in ranked mode to see if they're really better than dualie squelchers for me...I find the extra flexibility with more rolls and less end lag on DS help me not die so much. I also main RBD and use splash and TT splattershot on clam blitz & RM
I actually do use the dodge roll to secure kills & defensive maneuvering vs frontline slayers, so I personally find value in Ink Saver Main. I have used object shredder with these though & they don’t really use it well. Fought several Big Bubblers with it and it isn’t quick about removing them.
Fair, but I don't personally think dousers should be in a position to have to do that frequently. They're often spaced back to utilize their range. The only times you'd need to use the dodge roll are if you get rushed or are forced to be aggro on a push
I hope the next kit for Dousers is like Torpedo + Inkjet or Super Chumps, Torpedo can work with softening opponents and distracting them for potential dodge roll attacks, Inkjet is just overall good and it isn't on a dualie yet so having it in the dualie that can only dodge once feels like a kind of balance, Super Chumps could be good too though as it's quick like Killer Wail for near instant ink refills and the chumps could work as small shields for dodge rolls
Honestly I just started using the dowser dulles and I found out I don't like hopping so I decided ink saver for aggressive Frontline and I've been getting so Manny wins but Honestly I've been prioritizing the rolls and I've gotten so many splats so yeah maybe one day with the jumps Edit: OK I give up I will use hopping thx chase:)
I feel like the dousers have a way better spread mode than the dualie squelchers? Like, they don’t seem like as much of a tickle weapon as the squelchers do. I also wonder if more aggro gear builds would be viable if the weapon got an end lag buff to its dodge roll. Either way it’s a lot of fun to play! It’s nice having a long range dualie
It is better than Dualie Squelchers because the bullets are larger. So even though the spread might be exactly the same or worse, the shots hit more frequently because of the bullet hitbox
I've been experimenting with qr and just rushing down the other team like a tetra. It works alright in soloq but I definitely found myself gravitating towards a more passive playstyle with this weapon. I will definitely have to experiment.
I think running some ink saver main can help, personally I find the dodge roll can be used to engage with opponents and make aggressive plays, I’m shocked you said you don’t roll much with them.
The weapon isn't intended to roll a lot. If you're rolling super often you're probably playing it too aggro. As I say in the video, the main saver from comeback can help with this as well
@@Chase247 I think it’s just my own unique strategy that I’ve developed over playing them since the patch dropped. I’ll take what you said in the video into consideration but personally I find the turret mode is so good for getting behind enemies, especially since the roll has a very good distance to trick other players. I’ve found success with it but I’m just a solo q player tho not competitive like you are!! Love you chase
@@Chase247 I love your videos you’re the reason I picked up dualies in the first place! They’re so mechanically complex it’s only natural so many different things can be done with them
I’ve been running thermal ink on these and finding it great! Staying mid line and patiently combining the location information of: your teammates engaging, thermal, killer wail targets and the ink mine tags mean you can assist with so many fights and control areas.
Nah I was getting way more questions about the gear and this video was much easier to make. The douser guide itself will take a lot more time, no point in delaying this one
Honestly the only other ability I’d recommend for the current Douser Dualies is a sub of Special Power Up! It increases the duration by nearly 10%, so it gives you around 50-60% more Wail output in a single match depending on how often you can farm them. For just a single value sub, I’d say it’s worth it
10% is still 10%, even if you do it 5-6 times the base value and bonus increase proportionately. Even so, if it is 10% and you use your special a lot it is still good
@@Septembergirl10 Honestly phrased it a bit incorrectly here oops, meant it moreso as increasing the amount of time wail is active by around +.5 wail uses per game. For example if you output 5 wails in a game (15 seconds) then you’d have an uptime of around 5.5 wails in total (16.5 seconds)
I randomly felt like watching splatoon content and now I DESPERATELY wan't to play the game, but I don' have a goddamn console :( Is there any way to play on PC?
But again, as I say in the video, you aren't dodge rolling super often... if you just learn to manage your ink well it's really not much of an issue. I very rarely run out of ink with this thing And the included main saver from comeback helps also
Not as crazy as you, but I've dabbled a bit in this weapon since it came out. I don't find much value in more than 1 sub intensify action (not gonna be jumping much as max range) or main saver, but everything else you say has been beautifully summarized my thoughts! I personally have liked Comeback (2 subs charge up 1 sub swim intensify action) Run speed (2 subs run speed 1 sub quick jump) Stealth jump (2 subs ink resistance 1 sub swim speed)
Weird, i actually thought of using run speed but for a different reason. Is it real that dodges are faster with run speed up? I just thought that because the dodges were longer they would need to be faster
Its so weird to see a different building of abilities, I'm so used to putting the QSJ on the shoes because thats what matters, is it better to have QSJ dissconnevted from Stealth?
This is my current build. Feel free to critique it and give me some pointers. LDE, 2Ink saver mains, 1special charge up Respawn punisher, 2quick respawns, 1special saver up Stealth jump, 3special power ups I usually play Tenta tek Splattershot and either of the splat Dualies. I have a different build for vanilla blaster.
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As someone who used to play dualie squelchers and has a five alarm helmet filled with run speed from maining hydra, I think this weapon might be destined for me.
I love comeback on this thing as it lets you dodgeroll out of spawn, paint around you, and very quickly get killer whale to jump in with.
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Can't believe orcas are in Splatoon
@@weewoo3023 yeah man! They’re honestly kinda broken.
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@@lazdahuman great minds think alike
What's with the inklings dissing my dodge roll?
squeezer dualies
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I tested object shredder a lot. The short answer is that it does a lot honestly, and adds a very respectable amount of value when dealing with objects of all sorts.
HOWEVER being a fairly good OS weapon doesnt cut it. I think a weapon needs to be exceptionally good with OS to justify the skill slot, especially in the current meta. Whats OS going to do against cooler? Or Zooka? Or Jet? There were a lot of games where OS had almost zero impact, and I dont think the value I got in the games where it was useful justify the slot.
This video made me wanna pick up the dousers again! :)
That first build on the left was literally exactly what I had thought up in my head and decided on seconds before it showed.
Now I will never lose fights with other weapon! Plays a game and dies 15 times
I think I have to rewatch it
douser is literally just better dualie squelchers and no one can change my mind
Here is my dulles build 2 main ink saver(i just like it it makes me fell like i can actually battle if i am forsed to use dodge rolls and a main of ink recovery because even though i dont run out of ink to mutch when i do its almost a definite splat for the enimies and 2 subs of run speed up one sub of intensify action( im new at dulles hopping) 3 subs of special charge up is realy good in my game play, one sub resistance, one ink resistance, one quick super jump in my opinion i realy like this and its super fun but i really like your gear build to chase😎
I have to try these in ranked mode to see if they're really better than dualie squelchers for me...I find the extra flexibility with more rolls and less end lag on DS help me not die so much. I also main RBD and use splash and TT splattershot on clam blitz & RM
I actually do use the dodge roll to secure kills & defensive maneuvering vs frontline slayers, so I personally find value in Ink Saver Main.
I have used object shredder with these though & they don’t really use it well. Fought several Big Bubblers with it and it isn’t quick about removing them.
Fair, but I don't personally think dousers should be in a position to have to do that frequently. They're often spaced back to utilize their range. The only times you'd need to use the dodge roll are if you get rushed or are forced to be aggro on a push
I agree, using the dodge roll as an offensive tool can be helpful, especially with how fast the turret mode deletes stuff
I hope the next kit for Dousers is like Torpedo + Inkjet or Super Chumps, Torpedo can work with softening opponents and distracting them for potential dodge roll attacks, Inkjet is just overall good and it isn't on a dualie yet so having it in the dualie that can only dodge once feels like a kind of balance, Super Chumps could be good too though as it's quick like Killer Wail for near instant ink refills and the chumps could work as small shields for dodge rolls
Thx chase now i can finally get douser on 4 stars
Really want to make a Thermal Ink set for this thing, but I’m running out of room. It’s between cutting Stealth Jump or Comeback for a Run Speed main.
Just re rolled for some new gear and got triple intensify action up first try
Honestly I just started using the dowser dulles and I found out I don't like hopping so I decided ink saver for aggressive Frontline and I've been getting so Manny wins but Honestly I've been prioritizing the rolls and I've gotten so many splats so yeah maybe one day with the jumps
Edit: OK I give up I will use hopping thx chase:)
Yee haw gear soon
I feel like the dousers have a way better spread mode than the dualie squelchers? Like, they don’t seem like as much of a tickle weapon as the squelchers do. I also wonder if more aggro gear builds would be viable if the weapon got an end lag buff to its dodge roll. Either way it’s a lot of fun to play! It’s nice having a long range dualie
It is better than Dualie Squelchers because the bullets are larger. So even though the spread might be exactly the same or worse, the shots hit more frequently because of the bullet hitbox
Me, who is going to deliberately ignore this and just run gambit because funny
I've been experimenting with qr and just rushing down the other team like a tetra. It works alright in soloq but I definitely found myself gravitating towards a more passive playstyle with this weapon. I will definitely have to experiment.
I was thinking about Object Shredder also.
Yep. I KNEW Thermal Ink might actually be okay with this thing hahahaha
I think running some ink saver main can help, personally I find the dodge roll can be used to engage with opponents and make aggressive plays, I’m shocked you said you don’t roll much with them.
The weapon isn't intended to roll a lot. If you're rolling super often you're probably playing it too aggro.
As I say in the video, the main saver from comeback can help with this as well
@@Chase247 I think it’s just my own unique strategy that I’ve developed over playing them since the patch dropped. I’ll take what you said in the video into consideration but personally I find the turret mode is so good for getting behind enemies, especially since the roll has a very good distance to trick other players. I’ve found success with it but I’m just a solo q player tho not competitive like you are!! Love you chase
@ewwitscullen9132 fair enough! I mean hey, if it's getting you success then you shoukd keep doing it
@@Chase247 I love your videos you’re the reason I picked up dualies in the first place! They’re so mechanically complex it’s only natural so many different things can be done with them
Hey Chase,
Nice video! What about Opening Gambit? I’ve been playing with the ability and think it’s very interesting on this weapon.
I personally don't think opening gambit is viable on anything besides point sensor weapons, or splattershot/52 gal
Now i got a new term to use deezer dullies
Thermal ink is insane on these
Fax
I’ve been running thermal ink on these and finding it great!
Staying mid line and patiently combining the location information of: your teammates engaging, thermal, killer wail targets and the ink mine tags mean you can assist with so many fights and control areas.
I think fought you guys and sour in ranked yesterday. I got fucking cooked
Now make a video on douser duilies map tier list.
lde doesn't really do much now that it got a major ink consumption buff
@@dartagnanlopez1179 it still gives 6 subs worth of each consumption ability at max effect... it's still very good just not as op
@@Chase247 yeah good point
I use thermal ink on them and I love it
I think maybe it would have been better to upload the Douser Guide first and afterwards the gear but it was still a nice video!
Nah I was getting way more questions about the gear and this video was much easier to make. The douser guide itself will take a lot more time, no point in delaying this one
Honestly the only other ability I’d recommend for the current Douser Dualies is a sub of Special Power Up! It increases the duration by nearly 10%, so it gives you around 50-60% more Wail output in a single match depending on how often you can farm them. For just a single value sub, I’d say it’s worth it
Woah thats crazy
10% is still 10%, even if you do it 5-6 times the base value and bonus increase proportionately. Even so, if it is 10% and you use your special a lot it is still good
@@Septembergirl10 Honestly phrased it a bit incorrectly here oops, meant it moreso as increasing the amount of time wail is active by around +.5 wail uses per game. For example if you output 5 wails in a game (15 seconds) then you’d have an uptime of around 5.5 wails in total (16.5 seconds)
Do you mean only one sub increases it 10% or one main
I randomly felt like watching splatoon content and now I DESPERATELY wan't to play the game, but I don' have a goddamn console :( Is there any way to play on PC?
No sadly :(
I have to disagree with the main saver. After a dodge roll it just consumes waaaaaay to much ink to not run it.
But again, as I say in the video, you aren't dodge rolling super often... if you just learn to manage your ink well it's really not much of an issue. I very rarely run out of ink with this thing
And the included main saver from comeback helps also
I’m shocked you didn’t bring up QR. I’m not saying you should run it but I don’t think it’s a bad ability.
It's not bad but again the whole point of this guide is to go over the best abilities for it not mediocre ones
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Not as crazy as you, but I've dabbled a bit in this weapon since it came out. I don't find much value in more than 1 sub intensify action (not gonna be jumping much as max range) or main saver, but everything else you say has been beautifully summarized my thoughts! I personally have liked
Comeback (2 subs charge up 1 sub swim intensify action)
Run speed (2 subs run speed 1 sub quick jump)
Stealth jump (2 subs ink resistance 1 sub swim speed)
I prefer dapples
Weird, i actually thought of using run speed but for a different reason. Is it real that dodges are faster with run speed up? I just thought that because the dodges were longer they would need to be faster
No, Run Speed does not affect dodge rolls
@@Chase247 oh
Its so weird to see a different building of abilities, I'm so used to putting the QSJ on the shoes because thats what matters, is it better to have QSJ dissconnevted from Stealth?
I mean you can put it wherever you want haha, it makes no difference where the ability is
This is my current build. Feel free to critique it and give me some pointers.
LDE, 2Ink saver mains, 1special charge up
Respawn punisher, 2quick respawns, 1special saver up
Stealth jump, 3special power ups
I usually play Tenta tek Splattershot and either of the splat Dualies. I have a different build for vanilla blaster.
I would drop the respawn punisher personally, its not very good on frontline weapons like those
@@Chase247thanks!
Do you think I should replace it with swim speed?
yes@@George-d3n
My bad the first one didn’t send. Thanks anyway!
When we getting nee splatfest :(
march 22nd
This fully convinced me that Chase is AI-generated.
Uh how? Lol
@@Chase247 Have we ever seen you and AI in the same room? I didn't think so 🤔
Empary guide🤔🤔🤔
Why would anyone play the emperry... it's outclassed by the vanilla dualies
Hey I played against you in series, weren't you using side order dualies?
Nope, that wasn't me , I haven't used the order dualies since the new season came out. Must have been an imposter lol
@@Chase247I’ve been against a love star imposter before, i can understand it is annoying when you have others impersonating you
object shredder is better than you think.
How can I record it to erase interface?
Hi
Chase says Ink Saver Main isn’t that useful after I spend my chunks getting it on my build🥲
You can still use it 😭 ink saver main is useful on these imo. You don’t need to replicate everything Chase does