Your channel is very good! I like the format and the concise explanations. Also, I cannot find anywhere the Oblivion efficent leveling app you mentioned on your previous video. I also have an OCD for item value ratios, love you mentioned it on the video. A tip to share: Use the rats in (Arvela I think is her name)'s basement in Anvil, the one from the first fighters guild quest "A rat problem", to train blade, blunt, block, htoh, armors and restoration, just craft a trickling healing spell so they don't die, and if you don't want them to attack you back you can add some fatigue drain and they'll get paralized. Best training spot imo. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! Sadly, the app was taken down a while back and hasn't been seen since. It's such a helpful tool! I love the healing + fatigue drain combo- I'll have to try that out!
I just stumbled across your channel after starting up Oblivion again; your videos are incredibly helpful, and well thought out! Definitely helping me ease back into Cyrodiil. Cheers! Are you still planning on releasing specific build vids?
I think my Leveling Methods video is kind of my one size fits all guide, but doing specific builds sounds really fun. My next plan is to explain my personal build a little more then jump into a main story walkthrough so we'll see 😁
It’s great to see you still doing videos, hope you will post more often, you have a wonderfully professional and pleasant voice that makes these videos great and the quality of the videos is very good. You are awesome hope life is treating you well.
I think another good tip is trying to level speed first both for the convenience of moving fast and so you don't have to worry about over-leveling athletics
These tips are intresting and helpful it does make me have to take a step back and carefully think about the game and it’s mechanics I try to plan ahead to get every faction/guild these tips are helpful please keep at it you really know your stuff! (Edit: I’ve noticed while you don’t need all skills to enter factions it helps to use them like using sneak and lockpicking {security in oblivion} in the thieves guild and dark brotherhood quest lines and I always Recommend learning one magic tree {the choice is up to you} so you can enter the mages college {college of Winterhold in Skyrim is also included in this} needless to say you can do a lot but you need to make sure you understand the games mechanics before you delve into the advanced stuff I never thought about efficient leveling while I won’t be getting +5 +5 +5 every single level up it’s nice to know how to level up the attributes without a problem all it takes is a bit of research and experience to take on a games major hurdle). Ps. Sorry about this gigantic word wall
So for anyone who cares heres a list of some good methods to power level your skills: -athletics:swim in a corner forever, can be done easily in the imperial waterfront -all magic schools: create a custom on self spell and spam it while holding right click -blade,blunt,marksman,hand2hand:max the difficulty and keep slapping someone with alot of health, if you have the deepscorn hollow dlc the prisoner makes for an amazing practise dummy since he is unkillable and forever asleep, use your weakest gear and turn on an auto clicker -acrobatics:just jumping everywhere -armorer: fix everything everywhere, while doing the ayleid quest for umbacano give him the crown of lindai(the fake one) it turns into a ruined crown with 0 condition that never goes up, you can repair it infinitely -light/heavy armor and block:the 3 rats in anvil, just afk, maybe use a heal spell once in a while, make sure you got no reflect damage and put it on max difficulty Security:unlock every house at night, if you have dunbarrow cove dlc theres an infinite training chest Sneak: go to the arena betting area and sneak into the corner, the more people you sneak around the better and there are 3 or 4 there Speech and mercantile completely stump me lmao Alchemy:run around every city stealing from barrels all the crappy bread and such then use your collection of foods to create hundreds of fortafy fatigue potions
Welcome Back! From the leveling guide btw, yeah there was a level missing and should be added between 3 and 7! It should be: [Mysticism]-[Armorer/Block/Heavy Armor]-[Acrobatics/Athletics/Light Armor] in order to reach 100 endurance early. Class:Female Breton Attributes: Speed and Endurance Birthsign: The Warrior This is actually a pretty good build to stop at 25. Congrats! Also great video keep it up!
On a PC, you do not need a bed to rest and regenerate. Just wait an hour. You can also damage ghosts etc with the sharpened cutlasses carried by the Anvil Ghost Ship ghosts, the Ancient Akavir katanas from Sancre Tor., Honorblade, and the Dark Brotherhood dagger, which are not enchanted. Also Conjured weapons (dagger spell). Most people are probably thinking fireball when you say magic.
That a good point on the conjured weapons and it's really cool to know about those other weapons! I'll have to try waiting for Health regen on the xbox. I always just stayed close to beds because I was leveling relatively quickly, but that could make a big difference while leveling!
I have a Efficient Leveling tip. Finish Knights of the Nine before level 2. If you do, you can take Mara's blessing and raise starting Endurance from 35 to 40 , 84 health instead of 70 . I agree that Breton is the best but they're soft. Every little bit helps. You also get the Blessing of Talos lesser power for fortify Strength and Endurance. The Crusaders armor is not that great but the magic armor stand will raise the armors level to your level. BTW, I'm your newest subscriber. You go gal !
@@NerdyGamerGal I sort of have it in a video on my channel called Tales of Eville. Not defeating each of the ghost knights in the undercroft. Just saves from the sewer exit to level 30 , showing stats.
I just recently started playing oblivion and I’m diving into efficient leveling. If the content creator or anyone who reads this comment would like to join me respond this comment and we can hopefully communicate on discord. I am on computer if that matters. And I’m always looking for more people to build a community with.
I'm definitely hoping to devote more time to these videos and if I threw in some other games I think Fallout 3 or Morrowind would fit the theme! I've actually never played Morrowind so that might be fun
you can pickpocket the orc trainers weapons from battlehorn castle, they never break and do 0 damage, you can fight a mudcrab forever to level up blade and blunt, or just fight the orc trainer, but that will also increase block, unless you have a ton of patience and dont mind bouncing your dagger off him and recovering constantly.
@@NerdyGamerGal you can also use a horse as a way to level blade and blunt buuuuuut you'll feel terrible, they're basically like the comatose shrine worshippers at peryites shrine but you dont get 4 million counts of assault in your stats
Looks like I am going back to Skyrim, this is more complicated than I bargained for when starting this game a week ago. I don't have that many brain cells to spare for gaming at the moment 😅
Skyrim definitely reflined the leveling to make it more intuitive! Some of this advice can apply to both games, but I don't want the more complicated stuff to seem necessary to enjoy the story! I think the more you play any game, the more you want to finesse it, which is where people grow to love even efficient leveling.... if you ignore all that fluff, you can just enjoy the beautiful storylines and environments of Cyrodiil ❤️
This for sure, I actually didnt know this at first! The only benefit was being able to lose enemies at the dzonot location especially with the lake there. I think I've been attacked when waiting on the road but that may happen if your sleeping under the stars as well
@@NerdyGamerGal For sure. I just started replaying this again. I forgot how much time everything takes. At this rate, I will finish the game in 729 days.
Faster way to level athletics is to use a drain spell on yourself and go to a trainer. Sadly only 5 per level but draining the skill to 0 makes the skill trainer cost nothing. Might just be a PlayStation glitch tho :/
Honestly, I think I just need to write a console command at this point. Actually, I'll just set the difficulty to the middle and won't level efficiently.
I've watched your other two leveling videos and I think you are making it too complicated if what you are trying to do is play your character efficiently (most power when needed for least work). Life is easy when you max your killing skill and Endurance early and with little effort. 5-5-5 from killing skill major, Endurance minor skills, and other attribute from minor skills. Build (spam) the minor skill points quickly, then spend the rest of the level dungeon diving, letting your killing skill determine when you next have to level up. Endgame power (e.g adequate for Lvl 50 goblins) very often consists of only three maxed skills 1) Offensive skill, 2) Defensive skill, 3) Helper skill. (Blade, Block, Illusion/paralyze--Marksman, Sneak, Alchemy--Conjuration, Illusion, Alchemy-- etc.) You point out that these can be attained by level 25 for major skills. For the least amount of work per point, you want these to be major skills, but you do not want or need to build them together. During early levels you do not require a lot of defense for survival and almost no helper skill (maybe for a boss here and there), so don't play them (out of sight, out of mind--no point counting). Avoid quests that conflict with building your fighting skill, i.e. max out Marksman before doing Thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Sneak quests--use the lvl 10 Ring of Kajiit to help. Concentrate on your offensive skill--if a couple of major skill points pop up from other skills like Acrobatics or Mysticism-soul trapping, just go to your minor skills to make up the point (punch out a wolf, pick a hard lock). You should be able to use that one major killing skill for the bulk of one attribute. Big Endurance bonuses are easy if made from at least two minor skills (Armorer and either Heavy Armor or Block, or both), buy lessons, fix as much armor as you can. Minor skills start out very low so you don't have to put much work into them for bonuses, especially if you start out the level with five points from a trainer. There is your 5-5- without keeping records. Then do something with your other minor skills for 5 attribute points, or ignore them and take what comes--put on some light armor and stand in front of a rat for ten points if you want Speed, Make some potions if you want Intelligence --there is your 5-5-X leveling without record keeping. If you save the game as soon as the sleep icon appears you can go back and see what your starting numbers were for the following level. Certain things matter more than others. 1) Killing power (heart of the leveling problem), 2) Health/Endurance, 3) Burden amount/Strength. An archer's survival may depend on having 100 Marksman perk to stop charging clannfear at level 15, while only having 67 in Light Armor, Athletics or Acrobatics instead of 100 at level 45 won't be noticed.
This is a very good guide you've laid out! I'm a little ocd at times so my goal was to push it as far as possible to come up with the "perfect" build - especially given the scaling dilemma. I've definitely considered doing more specific builds for looser and more reasonable leveling plans
@@NerdyGamerGal It's not really a scaling dilemma. If you play the game the way they lead you through the main quest you scale evenly with the enemies. If you make a better custom character that can play its skills and attributes better, it will scale ahead of the enemies, and if you pick a bad character with a bad skill set and play it poorly it will scale behind them. You can design a character that has endgame winning power for a max difficulty game without raising any skills. All it has to do is cast a few zombie spells to get admitted to the Arcane University and then pick one very hard lock. I started out working on those perfect builds, developing equations to determine the best enchantments, etc. It was a lot of effort for the benefit, and a lot of lost playing time.
Sorry about that- so bummed to see that the balance was still off. I was able to learn some settings that should have the audio taken care of on the next stream!
Another technique I hadn't learned was having the game audio automatically lower whenever I speak. I also didn't realize how loud the combat really is and I think I had it set for the quieter moments!
@@Bleepthebleepouttau I apologize, I thought you were talking about the last stream and I didn't see that this comment was on a video! I'll look it over and see if I can figure out the problem
Great stuff! I'm always glad to see fresh, high quality Oblivion content.
Your channel is very good! I like the format and the concise explanations. Also, I cannot find anywhere the Oblivion efficent leveling app you mentioned on your previous video. I also have an OCD for item value ratios, love you mentioned it on the video.
A tip to share: Use the rats in (Arvela I think is her name)'s basement in Anvil, the one from the first fighters guild quest "A rat problem", to train blade, blunt, block, htoh, armors and restoration, just craft a trickling healing spell so they don't die, and if you don't want them to attack you back you can add some fatigue drain and they'll get paralized. Best training spot imo.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!
Sadly, the app was taken down a while back and hasn't been seen since. It's such a helpful tool!
I love the healing + fatigue drain combo- I'll have to try that out!
I just stumbled across your channel after starting up Oblivion again; your videos are incredibly helpful, and well thought out! Definitely helping me ease back into Cyrodiil. Cheers!
Are you still planning on releasing specific build vids?
I think my Leveling Methods video is kind of my one size fits all guide, but doing specific builds sounds really fun. My next plan is to explain my personal build a little more then jump into a main story walkthrough so we'll see 😁
I love how concise your channel is. Please never stop
Love the series! Can't wait for more Oblivion content
It’s great to see you still doing videos, hope you will post more often, you have a wonderfully professional and pleasant voice that makes these videos great and the quality of the videos is very good. You are awesome hope life is treating you well.
Your videos have been helpful and I've been more efficent on lvling
Can't tell you how many times I had to abandon a dungeon due to a spirit that I couldn't attack... Great advice!
That's the worst- I still forget sometimes!
Glad you're back :B
I think another good tip is trying to level speed first both for the convenience of moving fast and so you don't have to worry about over-leveling athletics
I did this as well!! Speed is the best defense and so underrated! (And getting some athletics out of the way is a major perk)
These tips are intresting and helpful it does make me have to take a step back and carefully think about the game and it’s mechanics I try to plan ahead to get every faction/guild these tips are helpful please keep at it you really know your stuff! (Edit: I’ve noticed while you don’t need all skills to enter factions it helps to use them like using sneak and lockpicking {security in oblivion} in the thieves guild and dark brotherhood quest lines and I always Recommend learning one magic tree {the choice is up to you} so you can enter the mages college {college of Winterhold in Skyrim is also included in this} needless to say you can do a lot but you need to make sure you understand the games mechanics before you delve into the advanced stuff I never thought about efficient leveling while I won’t be getting +5 +5 +5 every single level up it’s nice to know how to level up the attributes without a problem all it takes is a bit of research and experience to take on a games major hurdle). Ps. Sorry about this gigantic word wall
So for anyone who cares heres a list of some good methods to power level your skills:
-athletics:swim in a corner forever, can be done easily in the imperial waterfront
-all magic schools: create a custom on self spell and spam it while holding right click
-blade,blunt,marksman,hand2hand:max the difficulty and keep slapping someone with alot of health, if you have the deepscorn hollow dlc the prisoner makes for an amazing practise dummy since he is unkillable and forever asleep, use your weakest gear and turn on an auto clicker
-acrobatics:just jumping everywhere
-armorer: fix everything everywhere, while doing the ayleid quest for umbacano give him the crown of lindai(the fake one) it turns into a ruined crown with 0 condition that never goes up, you can repair it infinitely
-light/heavy armor and block:the 3 rats in anvil, just afk, maybe use a heal spell once in a while, make sure you got no reflect damage and put it on max difficulty
Security:unlock every house at night, if you have dunbarrow cove dlc theres an infinite training chest
Sneak: go to the arena betting area and sneak into the corner, the more people you sneak around the better and there are 3 or 4 there
Speech and mercantile completely stump me lmao
Alchemy:run around every city stealing from barrels all the crappy bread and such then use your collection of foods to create hundreds of fortafy fatigue potions
Your videos are very underrated And I am surprised you don't have more subscribers. Subscribed.
Welcome Back! From the leveling guide btw, yeah there was a level missing and should be added between 3 and 7!
It should be:
[Mysticism]-[Armorer/Block/Heavy Armor]-[Acrobatics/Athletics/Light Armor] in order to reach 100 endurance early.
Class:Female Breton
Attributes: Speed and Endurance
Birthsign: The Warrior
This is actually a pretty good build to stop at 25. Congrats!
Also great video keep it up!
Oh nice, thanks! I had to rework the character a couple times so somewhere in the mix I misplaced that level 😁
Hand to hand is one of the most fun playthrough I have done. If you haven't done one yet I recommend it and maybe strea it for YT😉
On a PC, you do not need a bed to rest and regenerate. Just wait an hour.
You can also damage ghosts etc with the sharpened cutlasses carried by the Anvil Ghost Ship ghosts, the Ancient Akavir katanas from Sancre Tor., Honorblade, and the Dark Brotherhood dagger, which are not enchanted. Also Conjured weapons (dagger spell). Most people are probably thinking fireball when you say magic.
That a good point on the conjured weapons and it's really cool to know about those other weapons!
I'll have to try waiting for Health regen on the xbox. I always just stayed close to beds because I was leveling relatively quickly, but that could make a big difference while leveling!
I have a Efficient Leveling tip. Finish Knights of the Nine before level 2. If you do, you can take Mara's blessing and raise starting Endurance from 35 to 40 , 84 health instead of 70 . I agree that Breton is the best but they're soft. Every little bit helps. You also get the Blessing of Talos lesser power for fortify Strength and Endurance. The Crusaders armor is not that great but the magic armor stand will raise the armors level to your level. BTW, I'm your newest subscriber. You go gal !
This is awesome! It would be interesting to push a build to the max Endurance/HP possible
@@NerdyGamerGal I sort of have it in a video on my channel called Tales of Eville. Not defeating each of the ghost knights in the undercroft. Just saves from the sewer exit to level 30 , showing stats.
I just recently started playing oblivion and I’m diving into efficient leveling. If the content creator or anyone who reads this comment would like to join me respond this comment and we can hopefully communicate on discord. I am on computer if that matters. And I’m always looking for more people to build a community with.
I like your videos. You should post more if you have more ideas or other games your into.
I'm definitely hoping to devote more time to these videos and if I threw in some other games I think Fallout 3 or Morrowind would fit the theme! I've actually never played Morrowind so that might be fun
NerdyGamerGal
Yeah that would be awesome! I’ve never played it myself but a lot of people I know consider it the best elder scrolls game.
minor skills in oblivion are misc skills. we can still level from minor skills in morrowind. we level from any skill in skyrim
you can pickpocket the orc trainers weapons from battlehorn castle, they never break and do 0 damage, you can fight a mudcrab forever to level up blade and blunt, or just fight the orc trainer, but that will also increase block, unless you have a ton of patience and dont mind bouncing your dagger off him and recovering constantly.
Okay, so I seriously need to check this out!
@@NerdyGamerGal you can also use a horse as a way to level blade and blunt buuuuuut you'll feel terrible, they're basically like the comatose shrine worshippers at peryites shrine but you dont get 4 million counts of assault in your stats
Looks like I am going back to Skyrim, this is more complicated than I bargained for when starting this game a week ago. I don't have that many brain cells to spare for gaming at the moment 😅
Skyrim definitely reflined the leveling to make it more intuitive! Some of this advice can apply to both games, but I don't want the more complicated stuff to seem necessary to enjoy the story! I think the more you play any game, the more you want to finesse it, which is where people grow to love even efficient leveling.... if you ignore all that fluff, you can just enjoy the beautiful storylines and environments of Cyrodiil ❤️
(Although I will admit, that's the same reason I never started Elden Ring... my brain is too fried!)
Excellent content lady keep on!
Find a bed and sleep just to recover? Just hit wait for 1 hour.
This for sure, I actually didnt know this at first! The only benefit was being able to lose enemies at the dzonot location especially with the lake there. I think I've been attacked when waiting on the road but that may happen if your sleeping under the stars as well
@@NerdyGamerGal For sure. I just started replaying this again. I forgot how much time everything takes. At this rate, I will finish the game in 729 days.
Faster way to level athletics is to use a drain spell on yourself and go to a trainer. Sadly only 5 per level but draining the skill to 0 makes the skill trainer cost nothing. Might just be a PlayStation glitch tho :/
Um, this would definitely be worth trying!!!
I have 230 points in athletics.
Honestly, I think I just need to write a console command at this point. Actually, I'll just set the difficulty to the middle and won't level efficiently.
I remember the magic of just playing the game with no constraints..... that would be a fun playthrough, just some vague guidelines and no math
I've watched your other two leveling videos and I think you are making it too complicated if what you are trying to do is play your character efficiently (most power when needed for least work).
Life is easy when you max your killing skill and Endurance early and with little effort.
5-5-5 from killing skill major, Endurance minor skills, and other attribute from minor skills. Build (spam) the minor skill points quickly, then spend the rest of the level dungeon diving, letting your killing skill determine when you next have to level up.
Endgame power (e.g adequate for Lvl 50 goblins) very often consists of only three maxed skills 1) Offensive skill, 2) Defensive skill, 3) Helper skill. (Blade, Block, Illusion/paralyze--Marksman, Sneak, Alchemy--Conjuration, Illusion, Alchemy-- etc.) You point out that these can be attained by level 25 for major skills. For the least amount of work per point, you want these to be major skills, but you do not want or need to build them together. During early levels you do not require a lot of defense for survival and almost no helper skill (maybe for a boss here and there), so don't play them (out of sight, out of mind--no point counting). Avoid quests that conflict with building your fighting skill, i.e. max out Marksman before doing Thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Sneak quests--use the lvl 10 Ring of Kajiit to help.
Concentrate on your offensive skill--if a couple of major skill points pop up from other skills like Acrobatics or Mysticism-soul trapping, just go to your minor skills to make up the point (punch out a wolf, pick a hard lock). You should be able to use that one major killing skill for the bulk of one attribute.
Big Endurance bonuses are easy if made from at least two minor skills (Armorer and either Heavy Armor or Block, or both), buy lessons, fix as much armor as you can. Minor skills start out very low so you don't have to put much work into them for bonuses, especially if you start out the level with five points from a trainer. There is your 5-5- without keeping records. Then do something with your other minor skills for 5 attribute points, or ignore them and take what comes--put on some light armor and stand in front of a rat for ten points if you want Speed, Make some potions if you want Intelligence --there is your 5-5-X leveling without record keeping. If you save the game as soon as the sleep icon appears you can go back and see what your starting numbers were for the following level.
Certain things matter more than others. 1) Killing power (heart of the leveling problem), 2) Health/Endurance, 3) Burden amount/Strength. An archer's survival may depend on having 100 Marksman perk to stop charging clannfear at level 15, while only having 67 in Light Armor, Athletics or Acrobatics instead of 100 at level 45 won't be noticed.
This is a very good guide you've laid out!
I'm a little ocd at times so my goal was to push it as far as possible to come up with the "perfect" build - especially given the scaling dilemma. I've definitely considered doing more specific builds for looser and more reasonable leveling plans
@@NerdyGamerGal It's not really a scaling dilemma. If you play the game the way they lead you through the main quest you scale evenly with the enemies. If you make a better custom character that can play its skills and attributes better, it will scale ahead of the enemies, and if you pick a bad character with a bad skill set and play it poorly it will scale behind them. You can design a character that has endgame winning power for a max difficulty game without raising any skills. All it has to do is cast a few zombie spells to get admitted to the Arcane University and then pick one very hard lock.
I started out working on those perfect builds, developing equations to determine the best enchantments, etc. It was a lot of effort for the benefit, and a lot of lost playing time.
Found this guide it's long as hell but it's pretty good steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873311868
how do you know all this? did you read an elder scroll?
I can neither confirm nor deny that such an item is in my possession.....
@@NerdyGamerGal Capital!
Your volume is low low barely her you T max settings
Sorry about that- so bummed to see that the balance was still off. I was able to learn some settings that should have the audio taken care of on the next stream!
@@NerdyGamerGal it seems like your volume is set for people who use headphones maybe,. I'll still watch the video with head phones in.
Another technique I hadn't learned was having the game audio automatically lower whenever I speak. I also didn't realize how loud the combat really is and I think I had it set for the quieter moments!
@@Bleepthebleepouttau I apologize, I thought you were talking about the last stream and I didn't see that this comment was on a video! I'll look it over and see if I can figure out the problem