GRAND FINALS: Maru vs. Serral - Starcraft 2

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
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  • @yuvl32
    @yuvl32 2 роки тому +407

    I love the “standing against overwhelming alien invasion” vibe these fights have.

    • @LPZonline
      @LPZonline 2 роки тому +45

      why TvZ is my favourite match up~

  • @okamiman73
    @okamiman73 2 роки тому +188

    I think the best part of this vid is how expressive Serral is at the end. I think that's the most expressive, non-angry I've ever seen him lmao

    • @drewpaiva93
      @drewpaiva93 2 роки тому +1

      yeah!! I think he lost his virginity, he's looking like a man now

    • @Caldera01
      @Caldera01 2 роки тому +3

      I don't think I've ever seen Serral angry? Must be a Finnish thing...
      If anything he has seemed disappointed / frustrated more than angry.

  • @0nelove__472
    @0nelove__472 2 роки тому +86

    that neural parasite on the ghost, then emp. just wow. well done serral

  • @Vazalemma
    @Vazalemma 2 роки тому +160

    It would also be cool to highlight the final game of ShoWTimE vs Serral, that game was one in a million

    • @ericxu7023
      @ericxu7023 2 роки тому

      thanks for pointing this out, I am going to watch this one straight away

    • @l_ifeefi_l1998
      @l_ifeefi_l1998 2 роки тому +4

      I like how u type out their names proper lol

  • @superpantman
    @superpantman 2 роки тому +63

    I love that Serral has adapted his playstyle. His 2018 domination was off the back of insane infestor broodlord control. I think when ghosts become such a strong counter to that he struggled. I saw him lose quite often to Clem.
    Now he is changing it up so much, even going for early timing attacks and dropperlords and nydus harass. He still uses infestors a lot which I enjoy as they're my favourite zerg unit.

  • @peacefulwarrior90
    @peacefulwarrior90 2 роки тому +41

    Love the observer in this cast. The pip is super fun to see both perspectives.

  • @efijas
    @efijas 2 роки тому +64

    Finally new content. We missed you dearly

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 2 роки тому +31

    Parasiting the ghost to EMP the other ghosts... Brilliant!

  • @Kevin-du7qt
    @Kevin-du7qt 2 роки тому +38

    Serral has been on a tear lately. It took him a bit to adapt to the zerg nerfs, but he has looked unbeatable as of late. I haven't seen Maru get stomped like this in a while. Literally 4-1 maru and none of the games looked close except for the one he lost which seemed like an early tap.

  • @RachelTension
    @RachelTension 2 роки тому +45

    has there ever been a maru vs serral game that wasn't a highlight?

  • @gambit0913
    @gambit0913 Рік тому +4

    Watching Serap play is like how I envision Zerg to be like but it’s insane he does this in a competitive setting

  • @ElAndoro
    @ElAndoro 2 роки тому +8

    Im glad you still provide us with flawless cuts

  • @Tomoyuki_Tanaka
    @Tomoyuki_Tanaka 2 роки тому +47

    That was a lot more one-sided than I thought it would be...

    • @marcoscuaritegonzales1305
      @marcoscuaritegonzales1305 2 роки тому +6

      In Marus webcam Maru was rubbing his hand quite alot in between games, he wasnt at his bestself

    • @Tomoyuki_Tanaka
      @Tomoyuki_Tanaka 2 роки тому +1

      @@marcoscuaritegonzales1305 Damn, I hope he is all right.

  • @Metaspace2
    @Metaspace2 2 роки тому +5

    Maru's micro and mental discipline in defending against a superior supply count over and over is legendary. Serral's strategic thinking was something else.
    Incredible skill from both payers!

  • @gcl2783
    @gcl2783 2 роки тому +21

    Excellent casting of excellent games.

  • @ENZ2103
    @ENZ2103 2 роки тому +2

    I was really hoping to see another game between these 2 on your channel. You sure do have some serendipitous timing!

  • @seri-ously8591
    @seri-ously8591 2 роки тому +15

    I had to take a shower after that seeing Serral doing Maru dirty like that. It was like watching campaign Terran vs Zerg, Terran getting bled dry and eventually overrun. Serral playing really greedy helped so much against Maru.

  • @GabrielSantosStandardCombo
    @GabrielSantosStandardCombo 2 роки тому +10

    There's nothing quite like watching Serral's swarm flood down Maru's defenses, over and over again.

  • @MattSipka
    @MattSipka 2 роки тому +8

    16:20 commentary here is on point. Might as well take a majority of workers from your well-secured natural expansions and drain the resources from the contested bases that your army already has on lockdown.

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 2 роки тому +1

      I'm surprised it's not done more often when you expect to split the map, or even as a threat against your opponent who is trying to go for a late game map split. Zerg often take those outer bases first, then the Terran will fight its way out and retake them. So why not drain those outer ones first, then come back and finish off the inner bases later?

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому

      @@arandombard1197 you risk your workers if you pause your offensive too long for a counter attack probably.

    • @lordbry470
      @lordbry470 2 роки тому

      @@arandombard1197 Cos its a very risky move. Do that and both your army and economy is at risk.

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 2 роки тому +3

      @@lordbry470 Yeah, it's a difficult thing to balance. But eventually you will have to move your economy to the outer bases anyway, so now it's at risk but you have no alternatives.
      A lot of Zerg - Terran/Protoss games seem to favour Terran in these situations so it feels like it might be worth the risk. Especially as the Terran/Protoss often just turtles knowing they will win due to efficiency, while the Zerg throws wave after wave at them. Use that defensiveness against them by draining the outer bases quickly, then when it transitions to the more attrition based end-game, none of your economy will be on the frontlines and they won't be able to push you back to take a base, as they will all be empty. Meanwhile, they're opening themselves up to be vulnerable as they start saturating their outer bases.
      I'm not saying they should do it every time, just that's it an option. It's a bit like deciding to heavily drone up and neglect on your army, on the basis that you don't think your opponent will launch a powerful early attack and you can just out-economy them. If it works, it pays off but it can also be punished heavily.

    • @tiktac69
      @tiktac69 2 роки тому

      @@arandombard1197 Lowko will be very happy when he'll see that ^^

  • @ENFIKEFEPOKETC
    @ENFIKEFEPOKETC 2 роки тому +3

    25:07 maru taking a page out of mengsk's book there

  • @alexsappington1587
    @alexsappington1587 2 роки тому +6

    ZG has improved so much on commentary, really great this match.

  • @andrewroyle2847
    @andrewroyle2847 2 роки тому +1

    Love seeing an expression on Serral's face that isn't deadpan. XD

  • @chrisklugh
    @chrisklugh Рік тому

    Watching The Best vs The Best is remarkable. Normally both these players make SC look easy vs mostly everyone. But these 2 going at it just looks awesome!
    This is coming from mostly watching Maru own with Terran and rarely really watching Serral. So seeing him represent that Zerg Rush vs a very good Terran almost looks cinematic. I really love watching these 2 fight.

  • @ltigno
    @ltigno 2 роки тому +23

    I clicked so fast after seeing “finals” and “Maru ve Serral”. 😂😂

    • @Caldera01
      @Caldera01 2 роки тому

      You should see the Serral vs Showtime series from the same tournament.
      Serral really showing why he's the GOAT. You can audibly hear Showtime say "WTF dude?!" at the end of one special match between them in the series.

  • @Brucester47
    @Brucester47 2 роки тому +1

    Great to see Serral get a much deserved win, hope Maru isnt being held back by his injury anymore

  • @Evarakeus
    @Evarakeus 2 роки тому +1

    That neural on the ghost in game 4 was beautiful

  • @ravikkar
    @ravikkar 2 роки тому

    Finally, an upload. I was starting to get worried.

  • @michaelcraven9539
    @michaelcraven9539 2 роки тому

    Zerg, the only race to change its weakness to a strength

  • @aneubeck4053
    @aneubeck4053 2 роки тому +1

    That was the first time I’ve ever seen an unmorphed changeling. 26:30

  • @F4c2a
    @F4c2a 2 роки тому +3

    "You don't split your army correctly it's an unfortunate situation for Maru"
    Welcome to Zerg 24/7, Terran keeps zooming drops left and right and if Zerg splits wrong he's dead while Terran can just zoom out if overwhelmed.

  • @aaronalquiza9680
    @aaronalquiza9680 2 роки тому

    for some reason the purple theme HUD/UI made memories of my childhood flow in my brain.

  • @keizan5132
    @keizan5132 2 роки тому +2

    To those of you who watched these highlights: watch the full thing too, it's worth every second.

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer 2 роки тому +4

    Serral is so good

  • @TheyForcedMyHandLE
    @TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 роки тому

    Zerg swarm. How it should be played. Exciting to watch.

  • @rawoniongaming8100
    @rawoniongaming8100 2 роки тому

    23:49 All it takes to deal with the ghosts that fought all game for him was one good neuro parasite... scary.

  • @tismurf2138
    @tismurf2138 2 роки тому +2

    Gold ending 32:55

  • @piotrbelon8360
    @piotrbelon8360 2 роки тому +2

    Glad to see they are still doing great after that pandemic break. Starcraft dead game ? Never, as always

  • @sebastianpalominos3706
    @sebastianpalominos3706 2 роки тому +20

    i will insist
    creep+banelings killed the fun in starcraft

    • @iambrett333
      @iambrett333 2 роки тому

      nah, this is literally the best player in the world. they only seem busted because his economy is so insane that he can re-up his baneling army 10 times

    • @sebastianpalominos3706
      @sebastianpalominos3706 2 роки тому +3

      @@iambrett333 dont get me wrong, he is indeed the best player in the world....but this doesnt change the fact that creep+banelings killed the fun in starcraft, just Attack command and make everything dissolve

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому

      @@sebastianpalominos3706 Ghost killed the fun in ZvT. Counters infestors, vipers, ultralisk, Brutelords and lurkers becaue if EMP and Snipe. Nerf ghost, no variaty because of that stupid OP units obliterates everything.

    • @sebastianpalominos3706
      @sebastianpalominos3706 2 роки тому +1

      @@Tonius126 except for the fact that 1 infestor can neural and turn them deadmeat
      also, extremely expensive
      nothing compared to attack move and then replenish and another attack move

  • @gureguru4694
    @gureguru4694 2 роки тому

    i like the ling/bane spam then just use gas to build specific things to counter whatever maru is doing.

  • @donjuan3296
    @donjuan3296 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, Serral is looking strong.

  • @keonepatterson327
    @keonepatterson327 2 роки тому

    I feel like maru mightve held a bit better with some blue flame hellbats possibly in the backline for when the lings get thru, amazing games tho!

  • @samuelalbertoancallealcoce326
    @samuelalbertoancallealcoce326 2 роки тому +9

    Terran's strategy: tanks, hellbats, ghosts, marines, medevacs, even scv fight...
    Zerg's strategy: Zerlings and banelings. Oh, maybe a roach...

  • @Rath_9
    @Rath_9 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve taken about a year break from watching Starcraft but man idk if Maru’s age is showing or what, but he did not look on form from how I remember him while Serral looks as strong as ever

    • @MrFarlarzia
      @MrFarlarzia 2 роки тому

      Maru has health issues, causing pain in his hands amongst other things.

    • @marco_219
      @marco_219 2 роки тому

      It's not like it takes incredible macro and micro to even compete against zerg :). /s

  • @naaadr3740
    @naaadr3740 2 роки тому

    Serral giving off alphastar vibes like the roach all ins

  • @bozydarziemniak1853
    @bozydarziemniak1853 2 роки тому

    its like war of Starcraft Gods

  • @Contractor48
    @Contractor48 2 роки тому +24

    Zerg player's still feel ghosts need nerf. The state of Terran vs zerg is horrible. Zerg imba

    • @harrymaxwell8489
      @harrymaxwell8489 2 роки тому +3

      Zerg got too good at defending drops. This turtle style the terran is forced in seems to be fading. Nothing really to change the meta, ghost counter like 80% of zerg army, mass ling bane is the only way

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 роки тому +13

      @@harrymaxwell8489 If they lose ghosts then they lose all late games against zerg. They have nothing that can compare to zerg late game units and are able to deal with zergling run/bys

    • @harrymaxwell8489
      @harrymaxwell8489 2 роки тому

      @@uberculex I 100% agree. Just it's impossible to change the meta, but I've seen the terran win by having the zerg run out of minerals/gas

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 роки тому

      ​@@harrymaxwell8489 If they don't have ghost, they can't defend with favorible trades against things like ultralisks and brood lords with viper support. The viper negates seige tanks, liberators, thors with energy that can be recharged on a spore crawler.

    • @lapphoRa
      @lapphoRa 2 роки тому

      it's not zerg that's imba, its serral... also, if the race was OP it wouldn't be the least played race in the world by a largeeee margin lol.

  • @DanielDem87
    @DanielDem87 2 роки тому

    finally someone uses infestors to easily counter ghosts, even worse for the terran if they get the EMP upgrade (which they sould never research vs Zerg)

  • @somedudemanguy
    @somedudemanguy 2 роки тому +1

    I know they skip most of the opening minutes in these highlight videos, but it's still insane to me how quickly Serral takes over entire maps. Even Maru can't turtle when he's down 3 bases to 7.

  • @sangh.m611
    @sangh.m611 2 роки тому

    Neural parasite 1 ghost -> instant EMV the ghosts -> instant victory

  • @Crownest219
    @Crownest219 2 роки тому

    Those abduction makes me smile to the ears

  • @IWANT_TOBELIEVE
    @IWANT_TOBELIEVE 2 роки тому

    YES UPLOADS ✅️

  • @rawoniongaming8100
    @rawoniongaming8100 2 роки тому

    Is it not worth it to use an scv at 11:20 to repair the hellions. Seeing them back at base i saw that raven was repaired but hellions went back out after still damaged. I wonder if the mine time was worth more then the repair time?

  • @robo0052
    @robo0052 2 роки тому

    It's like survival game :)

  • @leenverkade
    @leenverkade Рік тому

    Serral makes Zerg look so broken...And thats 95% his insane skill ofcourse. But infestor burrow + spell casting feels a bit op.

  • @dzikiLOS
    @dzikiLOS 2 роки тому +1

    does anyone know why are there gems in random locations on screen?

  • @Havok229x
    @Havok229x 2 роки тому +5

    Bring back the Warhound unit for Terran. Might help them not be bottom tier all the time.

    • @avo616
      @avo616 2 роки тому

      💀🅱️

  • @earthbind83
    @earthbind83 2 роки тому

    That's what happens if you don't go CC first like in the current GSL group stage B, vs. both Reynor and DRG.

  • @CrimsonA1
    @CrimsonA1 2 роки тому +1

    Would Maru have made a comeback if he sent one medvac full of units to just one of Serral's proxy bases?

    • @Вальдор
      @Вальдор 2 роки тому +1

      No, becouse queens and zergling movespeed 100kk

  • @jastorms712
    @jastorms712 2 роки тому

    los ataques de serral son brutales, literalmente no de dejaba estabilizar su 5ta base :o

  • @F4c2a
    @F4c2a 2 роки тому

    Serral showed emotion? As a fellow Finnish person, I regret to inform you that he will be exiled.

  • @nitrousoxide1797
    @nitrousoxide1797 2 роки тому

    Hate how they cut half of the video out for UA-cam

    • @DFGdanger
      @DFGdanger 2 роки тому

      This is a highlights channel. Go look for the official VOD if you want to see the full thing.

  • @boreduser12
    @boreduser12 2 роки тому +1

    Who are these 2 commentators? They are good.

  • @williampwild
    @williampwild 2 роки тому

    "roaches bussin' open them walls"

  • @heybaeuwb8888
    @heybaeuwb8888 2 роки тому

    I feel like the struggle with the casting in this is real lol.

  • @pilandejericco2487
    @pilandejericco2487 2 роки тому

    the way Serral engage off creep is just insane. Maru trying to go for the exhaust game doe not work against Serral lol

  • @youyoushin1873
    @youyoushin1873 2 роки тому

    Congratulation Serral

  • @awkwardcultism
    @awkwardcultism 2 роки тому

    Why did you skip the first three and a half minutes of the match?

  • @alzhang8
    @alzhang8 2 роки тому

    10 bases vs 4 bases, wow

  • @Frontline_view_kaiser
    @Frontline_view_kaiser 2 роки тому

    The GOAT is back

  • @pedrorkpify
    @pedrorkpify 2 роки тому

    Serral el mejor zerg de todos los tiempos

  • @timmysun1234
    @timmysun1234 2 роки тому

    I found the first person really cool

  • @254zero
    @254zero 2 роки тому

    Serral is insane

  • @ShailenSobhee
    @ShailenSobhee 2 роки тому +10

    Ffs, can Maru please win a final?? For the Terrans out there..

    • @donhartfield
      @donhartfield 2 роки тому +5

      I swear, everytime I see these, as awesome as Serral is, Maru just gets curb stomped. Time and time and time again...

    • @reftu7856
      @reftu7856 2 роки тому +3

      @@donhartfield by ling bane infestor combo. this comp is like an auto win against Maru or any other terran players.

    • @elsuperjoe2006
      @elsuperjoe2006 2 роки тому

      It is not balance game.

  • @douglaswidodo7996
    @douglaswidodo7996 2 роки тому

    Damn u should build defense systems against alien..

  • @rudybaran
    @rudybaran 2 роки тому +1

    What about the first game?

    • @sjbuttonsb
      @sjbuttonsb 2 роки тому +1

      Serral won the double elimination bracket so he gets to start the final with an extra win. Maru lost to Showtime in round 2 and then clawed his way back up the lower bracket.

    • @rudybaran
      @rudybaran 2 роки тому +1

      @@sjbuttonsb oh, thx man!

  • @razvan5061
    @razvan5061 2 роки тому

    Serral looking like jaedong in this 😉

  • @PK-vw3gd
    @PK-vw3gd 2 роки тому

    what's with this video starting in the middle of match?

  • @emeteriahernandezmedina5890
    @emeteriahernandezmedina5890 2 роки тому

    I hate how good Is serral. Congratulations

  • @valueds
    @valueds 2 роки тому

    Was this GSL

  • @ArioDragon
    @ArioDragon 2 роки тому +19

    I feel like ling and banes should be nerfed. Too easy and effective.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому +9

      Ghost needs to be nerfed. Counters every lategame bio units with snipe and spellcaster with thier EMP.

    • @ArioDragon
      @ArioDragon 2 роки тому +2

      @@Tonius126 That too i guess.
      I just want to see more use of roaches, hydras, ultras etc. Not just ling+banes all day long.

    • @theoffbrandduo6756
      @theoffbrandduo6756 Рік тому +1

      It just has to do with what the players decide what build to lock themselves into and/or force the other player to lock into. Widow mines destroy that comp but it was hard to transition due to the pressure. Overall it’s just super high skill players that make the comp seem broken when it’s really not

    • @vincent930
      @vincent930 Рік тому

      Not really, there are too many counter units like widow mines and siege tanks. Zerg will have no chance winning games if they were nerfed

  • @nikkator
    @nikkator 2 роки тому

    does someone know why Serral surrenders in the 3rd match?

  • @tommythunder7498
    @tommythunder7498 2 роки тому +1

    If Maru can't win there is a HUGE problem ! 1 banelings are way too cheap (rinse and repeat this doesnt take skill and Serral is one or the most skilled player) !!! Terran need anti ground static defense to stop those runnys like peotoss and Zerg can do ! Flamming Betties and Auto Turrets (remove them from Raven and give those the healing mech disk ability from Nova!

  • @ruidasilvamartins
    @ruidasilvamartins 2 роки тому

    Serral !!!

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 роки тому

    Maru v Serral is like Federer v Nadal.

  • @TheMasterhomaster
    @TheMasterhomaster 2 роки тому

    Serral is a SC2’s GOAT.

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach 2 роки тому

    Wow 😮 That was just…wow 🫣

  • @alexanderbersie
    @alexanderbersie 2 роки тому +1

    God I would love a Serral video that is not just roach spam

  • @IWANT_TOBELIEVE
    @IWANT_TOBELIEVE 2 роки тому

    WHERES THE VIDS

  • @DustinGhia
    @DustinGhia Рік тому

    Hail Caesar Serral!!!! 💪💪💪

  • @mickeyromeo
    @mickeyromeo 2 роки тому +1

    we have got a roach warren. huh? Don't you mean serral is making a roach warren? What are you in the game playing with him or something? Bad casting is bad.

  • @gaspault
    @gaspault 2 роки тому

    Ruthless.

  • @matheusazevedo3138
    @matheusazevedo3138 2 роки тому +1

    Serral is my favorite player, I’m glad to see him win

  • @wrinklebob7465
    @wrinklebob7465 Рік тому

    Omg... The amount of ads put onto this video is just baffling 😠😠😠

  • @liebe6997
    @liebe6997 Рік тому

    game 4, thats what u talk about when u say "zerging" someone down!
    more grind than helms clam!

  • @hko2006
    @hko2006 2 роки тому

    Two titans clash

  • @LiveLoveLevelUp
    @LiveLoveLevelUp 2 роки тому

    He makes the zerg race proud, such a destructive force, if one didn't know what a beast Maru was you'd think hes just an average player watching this. HOW?!

  • @swage8566
    @swage8566 2 роки тому +14

    can terran even actually win this matchup without relying on a fuckup by the zerg? I swear everytime i see these games all the terrans are trading 50% more efficiently, winning defensive holds and even doing good drop damage and then zerg just remaxes in 30 seconds for the 100th time just to w key them again and again until terran runs out of units that can shoot.

    • @stillwatersrundeep001
      @stillwatersrundeep001 2 роки тому +3

      I've said it before, when the zerg is halfway competent terran can't win

    • @WARGARM
      @WARGARM 2 роки тому

      Nope brain-dead ling bang is too balanced

    • @meggot5831
      @meggot5831 2 роки тому +6

      Serral makes this matchup look easy, this playstyle is very inefficent and on a timer. Is totally reliant on holding forward bases

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, very much so.
      One of the more important things is early damage. The more drones you can kill early on the easier it is later, as the zerg just can't grow as fast whilst you build up to do duel in the mid game.
      The next item is mech. The ling bane style you usually see in these very A movey endgames is very bad versus thor hellion, with ghosts dueling spellcasters. Lings die to hellions, banes detonate on single thors and gain 0 value. The longer the terran stays on bio the better for zerg, as bio is matching the tech of the zerg whos on a higher economy, as opposed to besting it. Mech also has the added advantages of dealing well with zergs higher tech stuff (broods, vipers, ultras) and not requiring anywhere near as many medivacs, which are a big supply sink. Mech is susceptible to multi pronging, but whats worse, loosing a base you weren't defending very heavily, or loosing a base you were defending heavily.
      And the final item is, as it always will be, battlecruisers. Even with neural parasite, BCs force corrupters, stuff other than ling bane, and keep the zerg at home a bit to defend.
      I do personally think the ling bane style serral used to win in a lot of these games is a bit overpowered, but a good terran can certainly beat it.

    • @swage8566
      @swage8566 2 роки тому +3

      @@Santisima_Trinidad it feels like it’s a lot harder to succeed with the Thor hellion mech comp in the mid game tho it’s so slow that Zerg can just constantly harass with runbys and you can’t easily respond with cross map plays of your own that you can do with bio or something. Then with mass Thor hellion you’re so immobile that Zerg gets more map control anyways and can just keep throwing units at you while teching up while Terran have to deal with constant pressure to maintain their army supply and tech up. It feels like the matchup is entirely based on Zerg keeping the map pressure which while I’m sure is super difficult at this high level Zerg just had more options compared to terran. I’m kinda just talking by what I’ve seen, I don’t really play so this is just kinda how it feels seeing all these games

  • @СергейТомилов-б2х
    @СергейТомилов-б2х 2 роки тому

    Серрал красавчик! Ты забрал у меня 4 рабов? НО забрал без уважения... за это я заберу у тебя игру.

  • @VArsovski10
    @VArsovski10 2 роки тому +1

    Could see lots of Balance talks in the chat,
    Kinda agree, Terran should have the possibility to get higher gas units faster, maybe an upgrade for the MULE's to mine gas as well 🤔
    Pretty sure that kind of flexibility would allow Terran eek out more gas faster therefore not just rely on mass Marine with some Ghost transitions, but possibly more of a mech presence as well

  • @TheDuffman86
    @TheDuffman86 2 роки тому +9

    Terrain needs more late game options it's ridiculous terrain automatically loses whenever they get to late game

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому +3

      Ghost counters every lategame zerg. Emp counters spellcasters and snipe kills lategame zerg bio units. Ghost needs a nerf.

    • @smithiWerben
      @smithiWerben 2 роки тому +6

      @@Tonius126 Ghost is the only thing giving terran somewhat of a chance in lategame and even that is barely enough, but sure, nerf the only good ting terrans have.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому +1

      @@smithiWerben Then its not balance. Nerf ghost and buff somthing else then maybe BC. Ghost counters 80% of Zerg and now Serral are soley relying to ling and banes.

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 роки тому +1

      @@Tonius126 BC's will always be countered by viper or neural parasite from a perma cloaked caster. This is the reason why only the best non zerg can make tier 3 work at a high level. They need a buff to a unit that is cheaper and swarmable to counteract those two units dominating tier 3 by evaporating expensive units in a flash.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 роки тому +2

      @@uberculex there is a tradeoff for everything, weakness and counters but that doesn't apply to ghost, they are just crazy OP. Ghost counters spellcasters with EMP and any Bio with snipe which is 80% of zergs! Just imagine protoss having a unit that counters 80% of Terran units? Nerf ghost, buff something else.