I went in to trade out my G irons for I 200. That was my goal. I ended up leaving with the G700 irons. Why? I was hitting it so well. I had a tighter overall shot area, nearly 20 yards more distance and it just felt great. The i200 felt sweeter, smoother but didn't perform as well. I was professionally fit over a 3 1/2 hour period from driver to putter. I left being SHOWN the difference in irons, performance and what WORKED. I could not be happier. I can't wait for the irons to arrive. I bout the G400 SFT driver, 3 wood, 3 and 4 hybrid and the 6 to SW G700 with a 58 degree Glide 2 gap wedge. I hit so, so many balls and while the sound was a "bit" offsetting, to be sure, the PERFORMANCE made the decision for me. I dearly LOVE these irons. My handicap? It's 14. I can see getting better with these irons. Thanks for the review.
This summer will be my personal test. I’ve played Ping G25’s for the last 5yrs. I got a used set of Ping S55’s. We’ll see if my game improves or worsens this summer and see if what Crossfield is saying has merit.
I completely agree I had the g40 and was sold them on my handicap at the time but I did not learn a great deal as my miss hits was going longer, now I use jpx900 tour and my handicap is coming down because of the feedback the club gives me. #realfeedback
Mark - I'm a fan and a subscriber. But having scratch golfers, with perfect ball striking, test and review a club intended for high handicappers with inconsistent ball striking, is like having a sumo wrestler test and review ballet slippers.
Thanks for the comment and I will do a video on this idea. But please don’t think we hit the middle all the time. Watch how our balls speeds and spins move this is strike. 👍👍
I want them, currently using G25 and don't like the look of the G400, these look stunning, to me they look like a players iron but made for a high capper
I have had taylor made r 7 draw clubs and played of 10 I comfortably hit the 8 iron 155 since buying these clubs I have come down to 4 little if no change in distance however accuracy is unreal however I now think it's time to move to blades what do you think
Totally get what you’re saying. When I got back into golf last year, I used game improvement irons (thinking I’d try and get all the help I could whilst getting back into the sport - #marketingfool) and could never gauge how far the ball was going on off-center strikes. When actually trying out various different clubs this year, I found that with some more ‘player-style’ irons, firstly I could feel where I’d missed the ball on the face and also found that my mishits weren’t affected in the way that everybody says they will be - that age old common misconception that misses will be far greater with bladed style irons - it’s totally player specific. Also found that I control dispersion far better now (short and long rather than left and right). Top review.
Hi Mark/Dan - just a comment when you two pro golfers were trying to work out the maths to see who was closest - you needed to use good old Pythagoras theorem rather than adding the length and sideways distances.! On the G700 review, I came across this strong Maraging steel a few years ago. I was playing some forged Macgregor 565 irons (lovely soft feel and my son still uses them) and tried their new NVG set which used that Maraging steel. Felt like hitting the ball with a chunk of plywood with a loud sound.
Center of green at 155, clear on the front, so short isn't bad. It flys 165 into a rock garden, it was found but it couldn't be chipped out toward the green or anywhere else.
It seems like the context of these irons are lost a bit. This is Ping's Max game improvement irons. Compare to the TaylorMade M CGB, Cobra F-Max, Callaway Big Bertha OS, etc. And don't forget to add the different loft options (power, standard and retro). In this category they certainly seem interesting.
Miss hits go further? That sounds great. I love when you scratch golfers bash SGI clubs. Not all of us can play blades even tho after every review you try to point us that way.
I agree with you guys, I'd prefer to come up short, and to be able to have a consistent spin model and consistent miss.. I've been literally experiencing this problem for the last two years with my TM Burner Plus irons (awkward). As my ability to strike the ball has improved, I've noticed I'm getting the random long ball like when Lockey was cupping his face. It's "cool" when my 7 iron goes 180 yards, but not when I'm expecting it to go 165 off a proper strike. So should I start to adjust my yardages for when I hit that centre strike? Actually being a long time viewer, I'm pretty sure it's time for a custom fit / lesson.. Maybe I'll end up with some Titleist blades 😳😏
I had a custom set of Ping ZING's WAY back when they first came out and everyone of these irons had a HOT SPOT you hit it and it went 20-30 yards longer but the spot was only the size of a pencil eraser size , but when you just hit the irons around the center it was normal length shot , but when you hit that little spot it was GONE , I sold them to a senior and he loved them , I hated them . These irons are not my cup of tea , but I too like that finish .
I'm the prototypical weekend warrior. Tested every iron under the sun. (game improvement, blade, hollow, hybrid set, etc) IMO, the Ping G700 is the best iron on the market for the average to slightly above average player. Long, solid, confidence inspiring, and performance above any other iron I tested. To hell with the sound and the "chunkiness" of the iron. It's designed for a specific player; the type of player who comprises 80% of the club buying public. Blades and other "beautiful" irons are going the way of the buggy whip. It's about time.
I play off an 8 and have G700 in my mid-irons down to i500's. They are workable. Remind me of a hybrid blade. It's all about personal preference and swing pattern.
If you are here because you are trying to find out if these clubs are for you then read on. I have been playing golf all my life and have been a very low handicap golfer since i was 16yrs old. I am now 51 and off 2 , don't hit the ball as far, nor do i swing the club as fast. I bought a set of these and people call them "game improvement" irons. Well, they improved my game !! Back shooting low scores again. Do not be scared to use clubs like this, you will adjust your game to suit. Golf is to be enjoyed and i am enjoying it again.
I like that they didn't fill the head. It makes it lighter which I need. The standard swing weight of this iron given on the website is only D0 whereas most are D2 and I think the new Rogue irons are at least D3. Too heavy for me.
Mark, I was hoping that you could compare/discuss...or provide general opinion on the Ping G700 vs the Cleveland Launcher HB. Both have hollow bodies, speed faces, low and back CGs, and high launch! I recently switched to the Cleveland’s and they have been fantastic, but I’ve found that they can be difficult to control in the wind (too much spin?). If you were to compare ball speed, launch angle (and angle of decent), along with spin how do the Ping G700’s stack up vs the Cleveland Launcher HB’s?
Thanks for the review. I've noticed that there is a poor resolution and it is really noticeable when you zoom in on your distance stats. They are certainly NOT readable. Why are Rick Shiels video stats always readable ? Can you please fix that for future videos ?
I think the plugs you see in just about all hollow clubs are there as vents for when the club components are welded together. Without a vent, trapped air would expand and try to blow through the weld bead or interface. Great review, guys!
well they can't do that ... pxg got a patent for that ... they even took taylor made to court because of that ... but it doesn't mean you can't ... put some foam , let it expand for a day or two , put back the screw and voilla ... the sound will be great too ...
I have a question about these clubs with gels and foam in them. Will they perform different in different temperatures? The same way the ball perform different in cold weather from warm weather. Great vids 👍
I game the g400 with tour stiff shaft which was ping fitted and has taken me months to get comfortable and regular strike with ,I can see the extra head size making the different but not changing sticking with it now save my money and another relearn period just before the season .no thanks !!! great review and a cheeky exit by Dan the smile!! .Ps did club head speed slow down???
Great review like always. I agree visually I think they look nice, alittle to big for me plus i would miss the feedback on miss hits. I currently play mp 54's and do t plan on changing anytime soon. Keep up great work
I think they are hollow and therefore loud. Dan may have been picking out some Loctite thread lock. The screw would then adjust swing weight as there doesn't seem to been the same slot available as the G400 or I 200. Maybe...
So if it's 6 iron loft spinning at 5.7K then that's pretty damn good for a super GI iron right? or is the stopping power compromised by something else like a less steep descent angle (relative to a bladed 6i) ?
Greetings from New Zealand. Thanks for a thought-provoking review. As a high handicapper I’m interested in these clubs and would love to see you review them outside to try the noise, turf interaction etc. Likewise, a comparison to the Gmax or similar SGI irons from competitors (even TaylorMade 😎) would be great. Your comments on distance make me think, which I guess is the point. I find only the 7i up tend to be shots for the green, Longer irons will usually be to advance the ball, or will miss the green anyway. For me, I would see extra length in those ball advancing shots S a good thing, especially if the G700 is straighter. Am I missing something?
I have played TM R7 CGB max irons for 10 years. I played with a friend who has the G700's and he let me hit them. I launched higher and went further. I hit his 5 iron 185 yards. When I got home I ordered a set. They aren't loud they just sound good when you hit them. I'm a 20 handicap.
He's implying that the sound is there to make you feel like you are hitting the ball harder, as he mentioned tour pros hit the ball hard and their clubs don't make this noise.
If the hollow body did not provide more distance than a "filled" body then the argument could be made they just wanted to make people "think" they are hitting it harder, BUT, the hollow body does provide a higher COR and in turn ball speed than a filled cavity. So, there is no reason to accuse them of just creating a marketing gimmick.
Great review Mark. My current gamers are the great Big Berths irons. I am interested in trying the Ping G700 irons to see how their overall characteristics compare to my Callaway's which also have a hollow head construction.
hi mark..could the sweet spot just be more out towards the toe with these clubs anyway or were the heel strikes also strong,,did you dot the clubs up so the quad can confirm the strike pattern
Would be better if you showed the impact position on each shot vs. the shot result, especially for longer or shorter shots. This club appears to have more weight in the toe to allow extra distance for slicers.
Turf inter action with mat 😂 I undersrand what you mean. Distance control is the key and it's safer to bee short than long. However i think it's better play problem. If you are beginner you just happy if it fly long 👍🙂
what happened to the Gmax, is G700 replacing both G400 and Gmax? I see Gmax on their webpage, but i cannot order them with the shaft I want... Is there a Gmax replacement coming as well?
As usual every design choice has trade-offs. Does a person use a lot of the face? Do they want to avoid distance drop-off across as much of the face as possible? If so, then miss-strikes that cause a ball to go long (strikes with a delofted face) may go just about as long on an off center strike as it would hit out of the middle with a delofted face. It's the price that must be paid if you want the non-delofted off-center strikes landing on the green instead of short.
I wouldn't mind that 9 iron for that 140/150 yards with a easy swing but i might get my loft on my Mizuno Mp63 strengthened from 42 degrees to 40 as it is a lovely feeling club and easy to hit even for a 28 handicapper like me. degrees to
I took my old Callaway X-12 7 iron and set it beside the G700 7 iron and there was no difference in blade length so if the G700 size is "comedy" then so was the entire Callaway X line.
so massive head and you still can't find the center of the club? negative review methinks! not hit enough balls to get an average either g700 isn't for pro's I get that .....thanks
I think most of us recreational golfers don’t want to lose distance when we mishit a shot. Half or more of my shots are mishit in some way. When they come up short, that’s an extra stoke in most cases. For me (maybe us), having a club that doesn’t cost me an extra stroke when I hit it poorly would be a big advantage.
Because PXG stole away Pings top engineers and there had to be some sort of clauses for technology and design I’m sure. Ping could easily sue PXG for the adjustable hosel design in their drivers, carbon copy.
What I don't understand is why they make lofts so strong for clubs of this sort, the target audience of golfers generally would benefit more from grater height of shot for better control on landing not the extra distance, it would be interesting to see how an iron of this type would perform against a blade with blade speck lofts
Why does ping so rarely offer a "players" type iron? Always more GI and chunkier than the last. I'd like to see an iblade replacement or something more in that category from them.
I think their a gorgeous looking iron. As for them being strong I know my lofts and distances so in my mind I’ll feel better about my game playing a 7 instead of a 6. Yeah their noisy!
Possibly a high handicap golfers swing speed is different and the miss hits won't be so exaggerated? When designing clubs for different levels of golfer they must factor in such properties.
Freddy Bigtoe the 6,5 and 4 are the mainly hollow irons. They do make a crack , however it is muted do to the fact the faces are forged. The MPH5 range is very similar. Check out some of Marks reviews from a couple years back on them. Great and beautiful irons. Cheers!
The head is hollow, but the screw is supposedly there IN CASE they want to go in there and add god-knows-what in order to perform additional custom-fitting.
I have played Ping clubs for about 30 years. Currently I game G20 irons with 70 gram Steel Fibre shafts. There is a hot spot on the face of the irons that shows up about one in a round. The ball will suddenly fly 15 yards further than normal but straight. Please read some of the online reviews when G20 was the new kid on the block. The hot spot was mentioned then and is nothing new. My old Zing 2s did not have that. I suspect you have just found a characteristic of thin faced irons that might not be in every brand.
Too many , different of irons models, that ping had made , early years, remember the series numbers, remember the best ....putters too .I likes all the new, old ping 's irons , wood 's driver's, fal ways,
You seem to be missing the point of game improvement irons for lesser skilled golfers....your mishits are way better than the player these are designed for....eh bruh?
I hope this is a joke. A none CG strike is a non CG strike. If you move further away from where I struck nothing can help. The club has no idea who is holding it.
You and Danboy talk about preferring feedback from mishits rather than consistency from non CG strikes...I get this but think it's not the same for higher handicaps who have way more mishits. Isn't the point of the G700 to provide consistency from non CG strikes...or in other words less feedback?
Bad shots are just as bad from "Game improvement clubs" as they are from blades! it's all relative,,,as far as head size goes with hand eye co ordination, large heads are actually harder hit in the middle!, It's like trying to knock a nail in with a mash hammer!
Ken Phillips huh, seriously? Larger heads are designed with larger sweet spots. Never seen a pro put a 20 hcpr in a set of blades, but maybe you are on to something...lol
I do wonder..picture this: R&D Director...'how do we go longer with our irons?...R&D Exec...'Another couple of degrees stronger on the loft?....no-one will really notice, they just see the number of the iron, add a new pearly finish and speed sounding swooshy stuff and there you go...Years growth targets achieved! R&D Director...Well I'm sold, pass the word on and shall we take the rest of the year off to have a money fight? I'll get the sacks of 100's in....
Beautiful clubs for a Ping product but waaaay to long, and yes the sound would bother me as well. Probably a great club for a beginner, I will stick with my S55’s 👍
S55 is one of pings Best offering for a players iron, IMO g25 is the best offering for a players gi iron from ping. I’ve had numerous sets of ping irons to me they are the best club maker out there. All time favorites are the I3+ blades!!!
most golf courses 'in my opinion' seem to have hazards in front of the green and to the sides, water, ditches, bunkers so longer miss hits, if consistent do sound that bad, i could build that around my game, shame we didn't have any real face strike data as my previous comment, as for sound, no damping means 'how the club naturally sounds', add damping and you are changing the sound, come on Mark thats a given
Couldn't care less less about the sound the club makes when hitting the ball, it could sound like church bells,if it hits the green every time,great😊
I went in to trade out my G irons for I 200. That was my goal. I ended up leaving with the G700 irons. Why? I was hitting it so well. I had a tighter overall shot area, nearly 20 yards more distance and it just felt great. The i200 felt sweeter, smoother but didn't perform as well. I was professionally fit over a 3 1/2 hour period from driver to putter. I left being SHOWN the difference in irons, performance and what WORKED. I could not be happier. I can't wait for the irons to arrive. I bout the G400 SFT driver, 3 wood, 3 and 4 hybrid and the 6 to SW G700 with a 58 degree Glide 2 gap wedge. I hit so, so many balls and while the sound was a "bit" offsetting, to be sure, the PERFORMANCE made the decision for me. I dearly LOVE these irons. My handicap? It's 14. I can see getting better with these irons. Thanks for the review.
Curious, are you still playing them? How well did they play for you on course? Cheers
This summer will be my personal test. I’ve played Ping G25’s for the last 5yrs. I got a used set of Ping S55’s. We’ll see if my game improves or worsens this summer and see if what Crossfield is saying has merit.
I completely agree I had the g40 and was sold them on my handicap at the time but I did not learn a great deal as my miss hits was going longer, now I use jpx900 tour and my handicap is coming down because of the feedback the club gives me. #realfeedback
You guys are to good for these clubs need to have high handicap guests test them.
I’m going to pick up a set of these clubs currently playing Ping g
Please compare these 700’s to the G!
Mark - I'm a fan and a subscriber. But having scratch golfers, with perfect ball striking, test and review a club intended for high handicappers with inconsistent ball striking, is like having a sumo wrestler test and review ballet slippers.
Thanks for the comment and I will do a video on this idea. But please don’t think we hit the middle all the time. Watch how our balls speeds and spins move this is strike. 👍👍
I want them, currently using G25 and don't like the look of the G400, these look stunning, to me they look like a players iron but made for a high capper
I have had taylor made r 7 draw clubs and played of 10 I comfortably hit the 8 iron 155 since buying these clubs I have come down to 4 little if no change in distance however accuracy is unreal however I now think it's time to move to blades what do you think
Totally get what you’re saying. When I got back into golf last year, I used game improvement irons (thinking I’d try and get all the help I could whilst getting back into the sport - #marketingfool) and could never gauge how far the ball was going on off-center strikes. When actually trying out various different clubs this year, I found that with some more ‘player-style’ irons, firstly I could feel where I’d missed the ball on the face and also found that my mishits weren’t affected in the way that everybody says they will be - that age old common misconception that misses will be far greater with bladed style irons - it’s totally player specific. Also found that I control dispersion far better now (short and long rather than left and right). Top review.
Hi Mark/Dan - just a comment when you two pro golfers were trying to work out the maths to see who was closest - you needed to use good old Pythagoras theorem rather than adding the length and sideways distances.!
On the G700 review, I came across this strong Maraging steel a few years ago. I was playing some forged Macgregor 565 irons (lovely soft feel and my son still uses them) and tried their new NVG set which used that Maraging steel. Felt like hitting the ball with a chunk of plywood with a loud sound.
Center of green at 155, clear on the front, so short isn't bad. It flys 165 into a rock garden, it was found but it couldn't be chipped out toward the green or anywhere else.
It seems like the context of these irons are lost a bit. This is Ping's Max game improvement irons. Compare to the TaylorMade M CGB, Cobra F-Max, Callaway Big Bertha OS, etc. And don't forget to add the different loft options (power, standard and retro). In this category they certainly seem interesting.
Hit them yesterday ....clack clack clack...three hits and tossed aside and stuck with the g400 at my fitting....Yes Mark... A Fitting I listen Bruh !
I'd love to hear your opinion of the sound on the course without those walls bouncing the sound back at you.
I think higher handicappers would like the distance on a miss hit, because they typically don't hit enough club anyway.
Watch again reference that point. Not sure you got that right 👍👍
Miss hits go further? That sounds great. I love when you scratch golfers bash SGI clubs. Not all of us can play blades even tho after every review you try to point us that way.
I agree with you guys, I'd prefer to come up short, and to be able to have a consistent spin model and consistent miss.. I've been literally experiencing this problem for the last two years with my TM Burner Plus irons (awkward). As my ability to strike the ball has improved, I've noticed I'm getting the random long ball like when Lockey was cupping his face. It's "cool" when my 7 iron goes 180 yards, but not when I'm expecting it to go 165 off a proper strike. So should I start to adjust my yardages for when I hit that centre strike? Actually being a long time viewer, I'm pretty sure it's time for a custom fit / lesson.. Maybe I'll end up with some Titleist blades 😳😏
The plug is a hotmelt port for swing weighting the club.
Dan looks like such a happy fella!!
Agree, accuracy short or long are more important than left to right
Just wondering, Is “flicking the ball up with a lofted club and bouncing it into your hand” one of the modules in PGA training?
can you please do some bridgestone reviews!! Tour x-cb irons
I had a custom set of Ping ZING's WAY back when they first came out and everyone of these irons had a HOT SPOT you hit it and it went 20-30 yards longer but the spot was only the size of a pencil eraser size , but when you just hit the irons around the center it was normal length shot , but when you hit that little spot it was GONE , I sold them to a senior and he loved them , I hated them . These irons are not my cup of tea , but I too like that finish .
I'm the prototypical weekend warrior. Tested every iron under the sun. (game improvement, blade, hollow, hybrid set, etc) IMO, the Ping G700 is the best iron on the market for the average to slightly above average player. Long, solid, confidence inspiring, and performance above any other iron I tested. To hell with the sound and the "chunkiness" of the iron. It's designed for a specific player; the type of player who comprises 80% of the club buying public. Blades and other "beautiful" irons are going the way of the buggy whip. It's about time.
I play off an 8 and have G700 in my mid-irons down to i500's. They are workable. Remind me of a hybrid blade. It's all about personal preference and swing pattern.
If you are here because you are trying to find out if these clubs are for you then read on. I have been playing golf all my life and have been a very low handicap golfer since i was 16yrs old. I am now 51 and off 2 , don't hit the ball as far, nor do i swing the club as fast. I bought a set of these and people call them "game improvement" irons. Well, they improved my game !! Back shooting low scores again. Do not be scared to use clubs like this, you will adjust your game to suit. Golf is to be enjoyed and i am enjoying it again.
I like that they didn't fill the head. It makes it lighter which I need. The standard swing weight of this iron given on the website is only D0 whereas most are D2 and I think the new Rogue irons are at least D3. Too heavy for me.
Good work on vids boys. Love them
Mark, I was hoping that you could compare/discuss...or provide general opinion on the Ping G700 vs the Cleveland Launcher HB. Both have hollow bodies, speed faces, low and back CGs, and high launch! I recently switched to the Cleveland’s and they have been fantastic, but I’ve found that they can be difficult to control in the wind (too much spin?). If you were to compare ball speed, launch angle (and angle of decent), along with spin how do the Ping G700’s stack up vs the Cleveland Launcher HB’s?
Thanks for the review. I've noticed that there is a poor resolution and it is really noticeable when you zoom in on your distance stats. They are certainly NOT readable. Why are Rick Shiels video stats always readable ? Can you please fix that for future videos ?
CLACK-CLACK-CLACK! That is the sound the G700 makes. Speed-Jelly. Don't see that on the Ping website. Well done mates!
I think the plugs you see in just about all hollow clubs are there as vents for when the club components are welded together. Without a vent, trapped air would expand and try to blow through the weld bead or interface. Great review, guys!
they also help with pouring glue inside to help adjust the swing weight with different shafts and/or different lengths ...
That, too, and for adding "foregiveness foam" and other miracle compounds. Absolutely!
well they can't do that ... pxg got a patent for that ... they even took taylor made to court because of that ... but it doesn't mean you can't ...
put some foam , let it expand for a day or two , put back the screw and voilla ... the sound will be great too ...
One of my friends just got a set really nice irons and easy to hit 👍
I have a question about these clubs with gels and foam in them. Will they perform different in different temperatures? The same way the ball perform different in cold weather from warm weather. Great vids 👍
As a Ping fan, I'd like to see the G700 vs the i200 irons or the iBlade irons. How about it?
Do you have to change the “Speed grease” every year 😜?
I game the g400 with tour stiff shaft which was ping fitted and has taken me months to get comfortable and regular strike with ,I can see the extra head size making the different but not changing sticking with it now save my money and another relearn period just before the season .no thanks !!! great review and a cheeky exit by Dan the smile!! .Ps did club head speed slow down???
Great review like always. I agree visually I think they look nice, alittle to big for me plus i would miss the feedback on miss hits. I currently play mp 54's and do t plan on changing anytime soon. Keep up great work
How does the sound compare to the Callaway Steelhead XR irons? They have a bit of a clicky sound as well.
I think they are hollow and therefore loud. Dan may have been picking out some Loctite thread lock. The screw would then adjust swing weight as there doesn't seem to been the same slot available as the G400 or I 200. Maybe...
So if it's 6 iron loft spinning at 5.7K then that's pretty damn good for a super GI iron right? or is the stopping power compromised by something else like a less steep descent angle (relative to a bladed 6i) ?
On-course follow up review please
Greetings from New Zealand. Thanks for a thought-provoking review.
As a high handicapper I’m interested in these clubs and would love to see you review them outside to try the noise, turf interaction etc. Likewise, a comparison to the Gmax or similar SGI irons from competitors (even TaylorMade 😎) would be great.
Your comments on distance make me think, which I guess is the point. I find only the 7i up tend to be shots for the green, Longer irons will usually be to advance the ball, or will miss the green anyway. For me, I would see extra length in those ball advancing shots S a good thing, especially if the G700 is straighter. Am I missing something?
I have played TM R7 CGB max irons for 10 years. I played with a friend who has the G700's and he let me hit them. I launched higher and went further. I hit his 5 iron 185 yards. When I got home I ordered a set. They aren't loud they just sound good when you hit them. I'm a 20 handicap.
Not sure what you meant by "fake sound" when they chose NOT to dampen it. That is a contradiction in terms.
He's implying that the sound is there to make you feel like you are hitting the ball harder, as he mentioned tour pros hit the ball hard and their clubs don't make this noise.
If the hollow body did not provide more distance than a "filled" body then the argument could be made they just wanted to make people "think" they are hitting it harder, BUT, the hollow body does provide a higher COR and in turn ball speed than a filled cavity. So, there is no reason to accuse them of just creating a marketing gimmick.
Great review Mark. My current gamers are the great Big Berths irons. I am interested in trying the Ping G700 irons to see how their overall characteristics compare to my Callaway's which also have a hollow head construction.
The G700 reminds me of the Ping Crossover. The finish looks sharp, but the offset is to much for me. I hope you will do a follow up on course.
That opening is for changing the loft weaker or stronger, it should come with a tool.
hi mark..could the sweet spot just be more out towards the toe with these clubs anyway or were the heel strikes also strong,,did you dot the clubs up so the quad can confirm the strike pattern
Would be better if you showed the impact position on each shot vs. the shot result, especially for longer or shorter shots. This club appears to have more weight in the toe to allow extra distance for slicers.
Turf inter action with mat 😂 I undersrand what you mean. Distance control is the key and it's safer to bee short than long. However i think it's better play problem. If you are beginner you just happy if it fly long 👍🙂
what happened to the Gmax, is G700 replacing both G400 and Gmax? I see Gmax on their webpage, but i cannot order them with the shaft I want... Is there a Gmax replacement coming as well?
As usual every design choice has trade-offs. Does a person use a lot of the face? Do they want to avoid distance drop-off across as much of the face as possible? If so, then miss-strikes that cause a ball to go long (strikes with a delofted face) may go just about as long on an off center strike as it would hit out of the middle with a delofted face. It's the price that must be paid if you want the non-delofted off-center strikes landing on the green instead of short.
I wouldn't mind that 9 iron for that 140/150 yards with a easy swing but i might get my loft on my Mizuno Mp63 strengthened from 42 degrees to 40 as it is a lovely feeling club and easy to hit even for a 28 handicapper like me.
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Thanks for putting it out there Mark! Too many haters in the comments.
Hi mark what do you do with the iron after the test ?Many thanks
HI Mark, just one questions I saw some dark red grip in this video , can you tell me what the brand name about it. it looks really nice.
I’ve never been much of a stickler for sound, but it sounded less than pleasant when Dan was bouncing the ball off the club.
Haha I love how competitive you guys are in all your videos 👍
It sounds like you are hitting donnay pro ones, they have the same loud brittle sound
Mark I saw another review of these clubs where the smash factor on the 5 iron was over the legal 1.5. Would you be able to test that out?
I took my old Callaway X-12 7 iron and set it beside the G700 7 iron and there was no difference in blade length so if the G700 size is "comedy"
then so was the entire Callaway X line.
There is no club out there that is "thin bullet" proof! 😂
so massive head and you still can't find the center of the club?
negative review methinks!
not hit enough balls to get an average either
g700 isn't for pro's I get that .....thanks
I think most of us recreational golfers don’t want to lose distance when we mishit a shot. Half or more of my shots are mishit in some way. When they come up short, that’s an extra stoke in most cases. For me (maybe us), having a club that doesn’t cost me an extra stroke when I hit it poorly would be a big advantage.
I like the look.of these irons
They don't look that big too me but I haven't seen them in the flesh yet
Mark if pxg is suing TaylorMade for patent infringement with the screw and the foam how is Ping not going to get sued for the same thing
cause they used gel
Because PXG stole away Pings top engineers and there had to be some sort of clauses for technology and design I’m sure. Ping could easily sue PXG for the adjustable hosel design in their drivers, carbon copy.
They are a bit big for my taste (remind me of shovels) but i thought your review was great and honest as usual, cheers guys.
What I don't understand is why they make lofts so strong for clubs of this sort, the target audience of golfers generally would benefit more from grater height of shot for better control on landing not the extra distance, it would be interesting to see how an iron of this type would perform against a blade with blade speck lofts
Why does ping so rarely offer a "players" type iron? Always more GI and chunkier than the last. I'd like to see an iblade replacement or something more in that category from them.
Im so crappy with my irons that from 5 to 9 my distance spread is like 120 to 130, i would love my mis-hits to give me more distance!
I think their a gorgeous looking iron. As for them being strong I know my lofts and distances so in my mind I’ll feel better about my game playing a 7 instead of a 6. Yeah their noisy!
Great review as ever! 👍🏻
Possibly a high handicap golfers swing speed is different and the miss hits won't be so exaggerated? When designing clubs for different levels of golfer they must factor in such properties.
I just thumbs-up the vid, THEN watch it... and I'm never disappointed :) Cheers Bruhs!!
At what point do stronger lofted clubs become the the norm and others just have weaker lofts.
I'd be happy to get the distance if it was only a couple of yards difference. If the distance was the same that would be ideal.
My Mizuno MPH4 irons are progressive hollow body and I love them. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Do they make this same loud crack? or are the MHH4's made of forged steel?
Freddy Bigtoe the 6,5 and 4 are the mainly hollow irons. They do make a crack , however it is muted do to the fact the faces are forged. The MPH5 range is very similar. Check out some of Marks reviews from a couple years back on them. Great and beautiful irons. Cheers!
Have you done the g400 max review yet mark
The head is hollow, but the screw is supposedly there IN CASE they want to go in there and add god-knows-what in order to perform additional custom-fitting.
They leave the plug so u can stuff with cotton balls to mute the sound...duh
I would say perfect for mid to high cappers that play a couple of rounds a month and doesnt have time for practice
These irons look kinda similar to the Taylormade P790's... Wonder if TM will try to sue.... Lol!
I have played Ping clubs for about 30 years. Currently I game G20 irons with 70 gram Steel Fibre shafts.
There is a hot spot on the face of the irons that shows up about one in a round. The ball will suddenly fly 15 yards further than normal but straight. Please read some of the online reviews when G20 was the new kid on the block. The hot spot was mentioned then and is nothing new. My old Zing 2s did not have that. I suspect you have just found a characteristic of thin faced irons that might not be in every brand.
All these are, are the Crossover's made into a full set. I do like my 4 Crossover I smack it. but wouldn't want a full set of them.
They are sold with "retro" loft...and "power". #missinginfo
Too many , different of irons models, that ping had made , early years, remember the series numbers, remember the best ....putters too .I likes all the new, old ping 's irons , wood 's driver's, fal ways,
So, is PXG gonna sue Ping as well? Hmmmmm!!🤔🤔🤔
They look like an S55 that has a 'chips and milkshake' addiction.
Fancy a round this Thursday mark?
I think I'll stay with my Mizuno's !! No need for ear plugs !!! BAHAHAHAHAAA
Will you need ear protectors when playing 😂😂😂
Hey! I thought you were in Baltimore! But good review.
Wish my wife held me like Dan holds a club head when they describe the aesthetics
Mis-hits going long is terrifying 🤤
You seem to be missing the point of game improvement irons for lesser skilled golfers....your mishits are way better than the player these are designed for....eh bruh?
I hope this is a joke. A none CG strike is a non CG strike. If you move further away from where I struck nothing can help. The club has no idea who is holding it.
You and Danboy talk about preferring feedback from mishits rather than consistency from non CG strikes...I get this but think it's not the same for higher handicaps who have way more mishits. Isn't the point of the G700 to provide consistency from non CG strikes...or in other words less feedback?
Bad shots are just as bad from "Game improvement clubs" as they are from blades! it's all relative,,,as far as head size goes with hand eye co ordination, large heads are actually harder hit in the middle!, It's like trying to knock a nail in with a mash hammer!
Ken Phillips huh, seriously? Larger heads are designed with larger sweet spots. Never seen a pro put a 20 hcpr in a set of blades, but maybe you are on to something...lol
The longer the face the more twist on off centred strikes!
I do wonder..picture this: R&D Director...'how do we go longer with our irons?...R&D Exec...'Another couple of degrees stronger on the loft?....no-one will really notice, they just see the number of the iron, add a new pearly finish and speed sounding swooshy stuff and there you go...Years growth targets achieved! R&D Director...Well I'm sold, pass the word on and shall we take the rest of the year off to have a money fight? I'll get the sacks of 100's in....
Ping p790 ? Is Parson’s going to have a head off with ping
Beautiful clubs for a Ping product but waaaay to long, and yes the sound would bother me as well. Probably a great club for a beginner, I will stick with my S55’s 👍
S55 is one of pings Best offering for a players iron, IMO g25 is the best offering for a players gi iron from ping. I’ve had numerous sets of ping irons to me they are the best club maker out there. All time favorites are the I3+ blades!!!
Still got my S55s, could potentially stick a 4i of these in the bag as a 3i replacement (driving iron)
Loved my i3's- my favourite clubs ever. God bless that green dot!
Where’s coach?
most golf courses 'in my opinion' seem to have hazards in front of the green and to the sides, water, ditches, bunkers so longer miss hits, if consistent do sound that bad, i could build that around my game, shame we didn't have any real face strike data as my previous comment, as for sound, no damping means 'how the club naturally sounds', add damping and you are changing the sound, come on Mark thats a given