We raced to Heathrow Airport and got kicked out! Ft
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Don't read the comments until you've watched the video! They contain spoilers.
loving it as always
tad dumb why they kicked you out and not lorna
I hate security guards when they tell you not to film. That was just disrespectful.
Every so often I will come across a story like this and realise “well this doesn’t happen to people like me”. The secret to filming openly in airports is to be a white man in his 30s who walks around like he’s supposed to be there. I’ve never had an issue filming at Heathrow and I haven’t heard of any of my friends having a problem either. Sorry it happened to you Jen. I rather suspect they just wanted an excuse to do something. 😞
Thanks Paul. Occasionally there are situations that I get a really bad "vibe" from, this was one of them. This wasn't the first time I've been asked not to film, it won't be the last, but this one was very different.
It doesn't make sense, it wasn't past Security so, and the camera was clearly aimed at yourself. They clearly had nothing better to do.
@@JenOnTheMovecan I suggest you raise this to Heathrow’s complaints team? They are pretty good at responding and getting it sorted out.
Always bear yourself like whatever you're doing, you have a godgiven right to do it.
@@JenOnTheMove : Heathrow Airport has a bit of a reputation for being one of the unfriendliest in Europe, & for this reason even though I live near Heathrow, I personally prefer to fly from Gatwick when given the option. There's just something about the culture of Heathrow that doesn't sit right with me.
That’s the most excitement I’ve had for a while. But I wish it hadn’t ended like it did. Keep racing. Keep filming. Keep being you because you’re the best ❤️
I'll get you next time!
@@JenOnTheMove you won’t though
Lorna: "I'm taking the Heathrow Express."
Jen: "Are you made of money?"
😂😂
It's a fair point 😂
@@JenOnTheMove i bet you bought an advanced ticket for £5.50 didn’t you? And with a railcard it’s £3.60
Exactly! The Heathrow Express is a real rip-off.
@@tonygrinney7115 I used it once in 2017 when I lived in Hertford: took the train down to Kings Cross, scuttled over to Paddington to get the Heathrow Express. I thought by paying extra it would keep the riff raff away but, no, the riff raff were still very much present 😂😂But seriously, it is a great service, but I'm sure, especially with the Elizabeth Line now in action, that it could do with reducing the fares a bit. 🙂
@@darrenbertram7289 I've never used the Heathrow express, but I have used the Stansted express which is also expensive.
TBH the most impressive part of this was Jen's ability at 5:45 to film from the platform the train she's arriving upon :)
I'm good like that 😉
Geoff's magic I guess... It's contagious
I think it totally disgusting what they did and to get it wrong twice is bad I myself also have that problem especially when I speak to someone on the phone an apology is made but then they again get it wrong I feel we have come a long way but not quite got there thanks for your videos and long may you keep up the good work
Actually, you could of just refused, the airport is public property so you do not have to leave
I hope that you managed to get an apology from the airport authority for the way you were treated. It was deplorable.
I also find it most strange that people can film in public parts of the airport and not encounter the problems that you did with the security guards. And it would seem that urgent training is needed on LBGTQI. Onwards and upwards to your next challenge Jen!
I do wonder if being trans got her singled out by the guards… I’ve had similar experiences while travelling, especially internationally, where if I get clocked they suddenly say it calls-into question my honesty about reasons for travelling etc etc 😔
Yeah. It's highly suspicious to me that out of the two of them it was jen who was asked to stop filming. I literally sat down and vlogged into a camera on my last holiday through there (4 years ago mind) and nobody spoke to me.
Would be interested in know what Heathrow would say on the matter.
@@ejasmith they also made a particular point of calling Jen Sir. All credit to Jen for trying to make light of it but internally I bet she is fuming.
To be honest I would probably presume Jen was male (ie a transwoman) if I didn't already know she was a genuine male to female transsexual rather than a bloke in a skirt.
Plot twist: Jen got herself nearly arrested to avoid admitting defeat in the race :) #JenRiggedIt
The lengths I go to!
@@JenOnTheMove I would aswell win at all costs right
Why am I not surprised at the over reaction from the insecurity guards? Oh no, thousands of people might see a publicly open building that there are hundreds, if not thousands of pics of, online. shock horror. You keep being awesome, Jen.
That baffled me as well - a bad actor wouldn't use an overt camera like Jen was so what exactly did the guards prevent?
@@aston-s I am a white male and guess what? while i was in the airport in Rome I took a picture of the gate saying "Boston" as i went there with my friend. Your rhetoric of everyone hates transgenders only exists in your mind. To be honest, most of people don't give a damn of what or who you are. What do the guards prevent? You don't work in security and don't know exactly why she was stopped, same as me, so stop making a drama about it.
The last bits when you’re both off the train is TENSE
Tbh security guards here in the UK are evil😡i nearly got punched in my local Asda for using the wifi there. It's a problem.
They mostly seem to be blokes who somehow found a way to get kicked out of being a copper… and now take out their incompetence on customers where they play rent-a-cop
Nearly punched for using a wifi in Asda?? That`s outrageous!
If I was made of money, I’d be flying from Oregon, USA, and giving those guards a piece of my mind, as well as filing a complaint in person with HR. Hugs, Jen.
Fab video and a great race. Glad you're okay Jen and thick skin or not, that was upsetting. Love you and your channel and love that Lorna was up for 'Fisticuffs' (lol) to defend you. I felt the same! X
I’m sorry for your bad experience, Jen, but good on you both for still putting out a highly entertaining video. Here’s to the next race!
If I were to have not made the video, they win. The show must go on!
lorna's plane dance is amazing. please dance more.
I will say this was tense and I was hooked to know who won, its a shame it ended that way! I would’ve loved to see you both meeting up at the end and doing a sit down in the costa just to talk about the race!!
Great vlog and race to Heathrow Jen. Shame about the rudeness to the security. Fair enough if they don’t want you filming but they could have been polite and said excuse me I would like if you weren’t to film in the airport but they didn’t need to be heavy handed about it.
Brilliant vlog Jen! 👏 🙂
Shame you had all that hassle at the end.
And well done on reaching 7k.
Thanks 🙂
Security make me angry.
Thanks for smiling.
Thanks for doing this video, Jen! (And, thanks Lorna, too!) I can't see how the Heathrow Express will survive at such a price point, especially with such a great alternative available now. I'm glad you were able to extricate yourself from those unprofessional bullies. Dealing with law enforcement as a trans person can quickly turn into a fraught experience, unfortunately.
Great race Jen .. just a pity about the unfortunate ending as well as the rudeness of the security personnel. Heavy handed seems the perfect description.
Reminds me ... A couple years ago, I made a few films on the Newcastle Metro system and during one of my earlier ones, I had a problem with a new driver. The drivers actually change at South Gosforth and about 30 seconds after he got in his wee cab he opened the door and said I couldn't film .. Why ? I asked, I've seen plenty of folk taking photographs on the trains.
Anyway I got out at the next station and while waiting for my return train, I heard over the tannoy 'FILMING IS NOT ALLOWED ON THE METRO SYSTEM' The driver had obviously radioed somebody.
I returned to the previous station, walked about 30 metres from the platform to the Metro HQ and asked for a permit to film. Within 5 minutes I was kindly given a type-written one by a very understanding and helpful customer services member. I got the next train and finished my film. I should have waited for that same driver on his return trip, but never thought about that at the time.
For all future filming, I always got a permit to film, but was never asked again by a driver ... obviously, it was just one of those ‘jobsworth’ members of staff we all meet once in a while.
I know exactly how you feel on Heathrow's security - I semi recently filmed a singular clip, on my phone, on the platform of Heathrow Central while passing through, and the entire time, I thought I would get confronted, Shockingly, I didn't, but then again, this was at 4 O' clock in the morning!
It's a shame the video ended the way it did, but, I still enjoyed it. Great video Jen :)
Im a new sub and find you so entertaining with your dry wit and your love of Costa. I found you via my train mad son whilst watching Geoff Marshalls channel. Im loving your mini adventures.
Yet another fantastic race Jen I really enjoyed watching your latest race I hope you do many more races as I simply enjoy them until then keep up the good work take care and stay safe
Lets see how many security people you can wind up for your next race - to Gatwick :)
That would be a good race! Something like Gatwick Express vs Thameslink.
Crazy pace race! Great fun. So sorry you met Heckler and Cough and their pals Jen, but as Lorna said, they have a job to do. Sorry they 'scoped you. Security is tight! All the best on the next one. Cheers!
Great video Jen, that was drama too!
that was a brilliant epic race dispite the drama at the airport brilliant video im looking forward to the next one
Wonderful video as ever! And those security guards will never stop Jen from being on the Move!
Omg I’m at the bit where Lorna starts to run a bit after the gates, this is so tense!!!!!!
Really interesting. I have occasion form time to time to get from Heathrow Central to London to see my daughter; knowing that the Elizabeth Line is little slower than HX is very useful.
My opinion is that if you can book in advance, and you are not traveling beyond Paddington by train, the HE is a good value, especially for the jet-lagged passenger who is arriving after an overnight flight.
Also another Idea for a race.
Brighton to Reading.
One leaves Brighton and changes at Havant and Guildford.
The other leaves Brighton and changes at Gatwick Airport
I be looking forward to going all the way from Shenfield to Heathrow Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 and to Reading from 21st May.
I have been on the Elizabeth Line and I quite like the Class 345. Heathrow Express Class 387 are very nice trains but the seats aren’t as comfortable.
That was a great race - I think Lorna must be cheating to keep winning like that 😜
I expect for most people, the Elizabeth line would be quicker (if you were starting at Liverpool Street for instance or changing onto it from thameslink…)
As for the end, those security guards are a disgrace and I’m sorry it happened to you, Jen. I watch a couple of aviation UA-camrs like Paul Lucas, and I’ve never seen him asked to stop filming at Heathrow!
Loved this race💜💜💜💜💜
😅 absolute brilliant once again! You two need to do more of these PLEASE!!! As for security i get it but how sad of them to make more out of it than needed...oh both of you are bloomin gorgeous 🥰 keep up the great videos! 😊🌺
Yay another Jen race this will be exciting to see who wins the rematch
Thanks for the video as always! I've always wondered if Heathrow Express is actually 'worth it' given the cost but I suppose this proves it is at least fast. I'm so sorry you experienced that at the end though, nobody should be subjected to that level of harassment no matter how self-important security staff think they are.
It's only 5 minutes faster though, that's the thing - definitely not worth the cost!
@@JenOnTheMove If you start at ground level at paddington , depending on luggage and departure times of trains there may be an additional time saving. It does look like the EL to LHR is so popular that it has been too crowded for someone say wanting to go to West Ealing.
Gordon Bennett! Welcome to police state Britain!
All I was planning to say was that the Class 387 on HEX look nowhere near as comfortable as the old 332s that they replaced...And I can tell that from the few minutes ride I had on one in the free section at Heathrow!
Life is an adventure, no doubt about that!
They said stop filming, you listened and that should’ve been the end of that
They decided to make the situation so much worse
cool vid jen
Shame it ended up in hassle, great race though❤😂
Uuuuuuuugh. I get misgendered way too much so I understand how terrible the feeling is.
Also this is why I avoid the airport as much as I can. Even when I have to fly. Over here TSA are horrible to trans people. Haven’t been to the UK since transition, and don’t really remember what security was like there but ugh.
UK security is fine for UK residents, but is actually far worse for US trans people than TSA is for UK trans people 😱
I’ve had visiting pals denied their visa entry because passport said M while they presented as F 🤦♀️
One time I even got an angry phone call at 5am from the border officer who had _detained my pal,_ demanding I explain WTF was going on. And even though I painstakingly explained what being trans even meant (for half an hour!) they still didn’t let them through.
@@kaitlyn__L I think it should be illegal for websites etc to ask for any gender - identified , given , assigned or whatever. ( the only sort of justification in the past was that the "fairer sex" needed some kind of protection (from predators or whatever) (plus males were considered disposable and needed for calling up into direct military service).
@@kaitlyn__L Wow. WTH.
I'm so sorry to see how the heavy-handed Ignorant security guards treated you, absolutely horrible! Hope you're ok!
The race was ace though, loved it! 💜
Heathrow security should be made to buy you both a Costa for trying to mess up your video
More than one Costa!
Great video, great race, such a shame about the security at Heathrow
Heathrow is a public place, and you didn't even go to any restricted area.
Great video. Would love to see a video on the Sheffield tram network if you could :)
Watch this space when the Metrolink series finishes 🙂
I hope Heathrow apologise for what happened here! As frustrating as it is, I can understand no-photography policies to a degree but there was no need to escalate the situation and ask you to leave like that
They made the situation worse than it had to be
You don't know the security regulations so making it sounds "oh sorry, you cannot shoot your youtube video" is pathetic. They had their own reasons to stop her and it's not for us to know why because security is security. Also, where is the proof she got misgendered? I am not saying she's a bad youtuber, but i think this is pure victimhood.
@fgrion and why would she need to do that? Her videos where things go to plan are popular. I don't like people like you who try and stir shit up for no good reason
@@AutoUnder oh me I trying to stir things up? So basically you can go to an airport and you are "entitled" to do everything? Go back to cry to your mummy.
@@AutoUnder It's always best not to respond to internet trolls like this person, they've made questionable comments elsewhere. Probably someone who sits behind a keyboard all day and never leaves the house... they hate seeing other people's success and devote their lives to bringing others down... he refers to UA-camrs as "dumb"
They're just a common lowlife, not worthy of your energy
Great video
Now You need to race this as well.
Rotheram - Sheffiled (3 contestants needed?)
- Bus
- Tramtrain
- Train
Hucknall - Nottighnam
- Tram (more often but slower)
- Train (faster, but less frequent, and extra few minutes walk from station)
And my favorite (but expensive)
Liverpool - Norwich
- East Midlands Railway (very loooong single journey)
- WCML to London and ECML to Norwich
- Car? (this can be slow as well, in heavy traffic, via Peak District, and virtually no motorways)
Heathrow Express Class 387
yes
Nice video!
Thanks!
Elizabeth Line Class 345
These race videos have been fun.
Got another idea for a race. East Croydon to Cambridge. One takes thamesling direct service and one takes a combination of Southern to Victoria, turbe to kings cross and a non fast service to Cambridge
I’m sorry the video ended how it did but don’t let it stop you. I love your videos keep doing you and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise x
The fact that they misgendered you and said “oh yeah im sorry I shouldnt have said that” is ridiculous- if they made a mistake they would clarify their mistake and ask you if its wrong or something, its okay to not know, but the fact that guy just said I shouldnt have said that CLEARLY the mf knew what he was doing calling you ‘sir’ what a rude man. I’m so sorry Jen.
Yeah I can’t lie the walk from the airport to the gates is way way too long 😭😭😭😭 I hate walking there
Unbelievable!! Considering the amount of people who vlog in airports etc so why on earth was it a problem!? Ridiculous.. great race tho, I am travelling to London later in the year and was thinking which would be quicker & easier. Have chosen Heathrow Express coz I got it for £11 return 😁
more elizabeth line services to LHR from the end of May I understand
I'm sorry that happened to you. I just got back from visiting London and it was definitely something I was nervous about given the current political climate. But you're awesome and your content is really fun, so keep it up!
Well done, Heathrow security, with your clumsy PR offensive. Looks like your 'boys' shot themselves in the foot. Sadly, only metaphorically, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to go stalking two innocent people through your miserable airport.
Jen... Lorna... it's they who have the problem, just keep up the good work and enjoy the journeys.
If its security why is Heathrow apparently more stricked and you encounter no problems on National Rail and TFL services.
Just before I get into the video: I love the bond street elizabeth line station exit, such a nice area and the claridge’s art space cafe has fab coffee
Dear Jen, realize that 7000 people can see how “secure” the security people of Heathrow can make you feel. Bad job by them! If you comply with their security requirements, there’s no need to intimidate. How special: at Heathrow we need protection against security guards 😮❤
At least you got to spend some time in Lovely Hanwell in the end
Jen: i keep losing
Me: HOW ABOUT YOU CHOOSE THE ROUTE THAT IS OBVIOUS IT WOULD WIN
Hi Jen, I love your videos and normally never comment. But I just wanted to say that I see you and appreciate your video content. I am sorry this happened to you. Unfortunately, the political climate is just getting more and more hostile.
Exciting stuff, there's one thing losing a race aaaand having security being heavy handed but more importantly did you miss out on the end of race coffee?
😮
Never mind her coffee. What about my toilet break 😂😂
I had to buy Starbucks at Paddington instead 😭😭😭
This is a curious quest- I went to Heathrow terminal 2 by my dad’s car, and on my way back I wanted to get the Elizabeth line but it was 12 minutes, so I hopped into the Heathrow express (I’m not sure if this is allowed with contactless? I presume so lol) and it seemed quick! This race will actually be so useful.
Jen, could you clarify about the payments for heathrow express vs the elizabeth line? Looking at my tfl account (linked to my contactless), I didn’t see any charges out of the ordinary really- is there a difference and how much? :)
A single on the Heathrow Express is £25.
The equivalent on the Elizabeth Line is £13.30, however because the zone 1-6 cap is £14.90, and I'd already hit that with other journeys that day (as would a lot of people, TBF), it's effectively significantly cheaper
Great video. Shame it had to end that way. Disgraceful behaviour from Heathrow security. There was no reason to stop you filming, and once you stopped, there was no reason to continue to harass you.
I'm really sorry this happened to you both and especially you Jen and i feel your pain especially about being misgendered repeatedly by those morons🤬 I'm Trans too and get this often especially in my job as a London Bus Driver, sending you big 🤗 hugs sweetheart. Include my bus in one of your videos sometime!
As a fellow trans woman, I think it’s awesome that you’re a bus driver :)
@@kaitlyn__L Thank you so much Kaitlyn... It's fun navigating a bus around but challenging with the way people react to me sometimes because of who I am...
@@missjamie-lee79 I’ve gotten a hard enough time just riding buses and trains sometimes, I wouldn’t have it in me! You’re a real pioneer tbh, doing it for the love of the job and opening further opportunities for future generations of drivers
Hey. I’m not trans and I don’t think I would ever be but keep on being yourself. Just because someone doesn’t like and idea do my mean they need to go such extremes and I think that your very brave for expressing yourself!
Funny how channels like the points guys or geof marshall manage to film without hassle not to mention the hundreds of others of youtubers, shame youll need an alternative race instead maybe a Jubilee vs Purple train to Stratford,
Nice to have a nice quiet ride on the Heathrow express. Its just too quiet. Is it sustainable long term now??
There's no way that in 8 minutes, a relief lines train would reach Southall. I would say just departed Ealing Broadway, or perhaps not even that if you got held up at the portal.
Found out that Heathrow does require people to get a permit to film. But there was no excuse for how you were treated.
So sorry at your treatment. I hate Heathrow
It's not high up on my list of favourite places anymore 😂
Heathrow is the worst. I wish most international flights weren’t basically-obligated to transfer through there… the border staff are 10x worse at Heathrow than a lot of other airports here.
The worse part of this entire thing, no one got a coffee at Costa at Heathrow 😆
Also west midlands metro and west midlands railway go
to at the same time Wolverhampton so you can race with lorna
Some people can't tell what enthusiast is with people being interesting in trains like me or planes, hope you were all right after that , just the way how they treated you like just for making videos off course.😢
how far is the HE platform from the Costa compared to Eliz Line? That walk to Term 2 / 3 is For-Ev-Er on Eliz and the Tube / Pic. If it is notably shorter it might be worth the 25 for those who have movement impairments. Further, keep boldly doing what you do.
It's *very* far
Back when I still used a walking stick that distance would’ve slain me. Now I use a wheelchair, so as long as the floor is decently level I’d probably just tear up the crowds and zoom on through 😅
It’s disappointing to see the behaviour of security at Heathrow. Imagine how Noel Phillips’ channel would work if all airports were like this.
Hi Jen & Lorna, I think it was absolutely disgusting with how they treated you as they asked you to stop filming and that should of been the end of it, but No they it carried on and I personally think you should get a apology as you wasn’t doing anything wrong as it was a race to Heathrow, and you always get the one who has to spoil it, I still enjoyed you video regardless, Lorna I have just subscribed to your channel! 😊
Thank you
Still scratching my head over this one. Is it because Jen has all that millions in the bank per twitter post? That is a tad sad and heavy handed.
😮I use Heathrow to get off the bus and onto the tube and these security bums are even in the bus station that stops people coming from the bus to the train or tube
Charlie Veitch would be like:
“I have the right to film I gave myself permission”
Accosted but not a-Costa-ed!
This sort of thing spoiled the contest. For what it is worth, the majority of American airports are no camera zones. At least you aren’t in gaol, waiting for someone to bail you out.
I wouldn't dream of even entering America in the current climate, its a fundamentally unsafe country
Im sorry it ended that way. But, did I hear correctly that the express is only 5 minutes faster?
Yep. The difference was quite dramatic pre-Crossrail, it was about half the time or even less, but now it’s very very close.
I think 5 minutes ontop of the 8 minutes connection so more like 13. Plus, given not all lizzy line go to Heathrow that would add further delay. But yeah, so much more expensive not worth it
Another fun race, pitty you lost to Lorna again lol. I'm not impressed with the way those security guards handled things after they told you to stop filming, you obviously stopped when they told you too, they didn't need to escalate it any further at all.
Jen hope that you reported them for that especially if u have it on camera inly bit i can understand is if u where asked to stop recording and u did then there should have been no problems there
Security officers in the UK are becoming more and more jobsworth. I almost got kicked out of euston station because i was filming and had a professional camera with me. The guy also said i needed a ticket but said oyster card isn't valid for travel in & out of the station 🤣🤣🤣💀💀
From what i recall Heathrow security are somehow over panicky about filmjg in the terminal.
Could be worse I once got stopped and questioned 4 times in a day while plane spotting at Gatwick.
I do get it on spme level, but like you say the lengths they go to is borering on intimidation.
4 security people to deal with you Jen.... That's just intimidation and sorry to hear about your experience at Heathrow, But if that security guard misgendered you after realising the mistake... it sounds like that he said that intentionally and on purpose which is out of order. Your right when you said people mess up, Even myself mess up plenty of times, like calling Lorna.... Laura once. But the video leading up to the finishing like was brilliant.
I misgender my child ( they're 20) all the time but getting there, and in my defence a lot of years of habit but in a professional capacity and after being corrected. Wtf ?
Yeah, it wasn't handled well!
There's honest mistakes and then there's malice, I'm not convinced this was an honest mistake personally
occasionally people have called me Steve instead of Sam.
You know what jen I saw a 674 that said 174 at the back
Not much in it time wise, but what is the cost difference between the two? Really poor behavior at Heathrow, got to be one of the worst airports I have been to worldwide (Aberdeen comes in at a close second).
£25 Heathrow Express
£13.30 Elizabeth Line... however that's included in the cap