Hi Everyone, We hope you enjoyed our video! Which motorhome with twin beds did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing you opinion about these RV floor plans.
I like the extra bench space in the last one, moving the portable cooktop outside is a great idea, with a BBQ, your meal prep is perfect. The XL beds are ideal for those of us with XL men. I don't mind the EW sleeping, I can drop off to sleep fast. 😊
The Jayco Granite Ridge is a great floor plan with some unique features. Falling asleep quickly is such a blessing!!! Thank you, as always, for your support Alison.
I like a small Class C (but preferably with no slides). These are all a nice length but the showers on the first two were too small. And I'm not a fan of the wet bath on the last one. I realize that I'm in a minority, but I'd like an option for a full dinette to allow for forward facing seats for children. I know that most folks seem to prefer the sofa or reclining style chairs, but forward-facing seat are safer for children. I'd like to see this bed option on more RVs. It gives you the best of both worlds, bunks or a king size bed. I also like that the bed is always available. On a sad note, the MSRP is kind of pricey for me. Thanks for the reviews.
These are all really great points. No slides = less maintenance ❤️. I never thought about the car seat situation with the lack of traditional dinettes. Thank you for pointing that out. I think the twin/king bed floor plan would be perfect for a RVs too! Thank you Shelley!
We own (and love) this floorplan in a Winnebago. Both Jayco's have bed widths of only 32" which is too small for active sleepers (like our Ray). We permanently converted our 33" twin beds to one 88"x74" large king, which then allowed for real mattresses instead of cushions, which makes for much better sleeping. We relocated two drawers to where the aisle is and actually gained more storage. The Vegas/Axis twin beds are 38" wide and that extra 6" of width may negate the need to convert to a king. Lengthwise the Melbourne is almost too short at 72" (remember to allow room for pillows) except for the shortest people or a single traveler. The Vegas/Axis and Granite Ridge are better at 75" and 76" lengths, respectively. If you are a couple and one or both of you is over 6'2", these RVs might not be right for you, because crawling over one another during the night while using the east-west positioning is not ideal. With regard to the Melbourne, we also would not spend the extra money on a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis, which we have in our present RV, because they are expensive to maintain.
Great insight to all these motorhomes! Thank you for sharing your personal experience and perspective. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Hi Mike and Susan! I like the Jayco Melbourne and the last Jayco. Thor Vegas was ok but not that shower. I liked both Jaycos I can’t decide which I like more. Great video as always.
Thank you! Since we tour 3 (sometimes more) RV tours in each video we keep them brief and about the floor plan, otherwise the video length would be quite long. Our hope is that we can introduce a viewer to a floor plan they might like and from there can check out more information on the manufacturer's website. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
22T is an Ekko-fighter with some pluses and some minuses. Overall more pluses, such as the upgraded suspension with lift, induction cooktop, simpler electrical system, better microwave, and the AquaHot125G. Minuses include the inferior bath set-up and the omission of a Froli under-mattress system. Still waiting on more details about the OCCC and whether there is room for more battery and more solar. I believe the Starlink option is for a roof-mounted, phased array, stationary antenna, not a portable one.
They are very similar. Thank you for pointing our some of the differences. The roof mounted Starlink would be a disappointment. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
We love the twin bed option in RVs, especially when they can convert to a King. Glad you liked them. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Always enjoy your videos!!! Comment - we had a Thor Vegas for six months. I really like Thor floor plans. We Couldn't stand it any more and there is not enough room here to explain all of our issues. The thing just started falling apart plus as a pro driver I could not stand driving it. I would not stay on the road. Not a good buy!! Nuff Said!!
Thank you for enjoying our videos. Sorry to hear about your issues with your Thor Vegas. Was it mostly slide related? That appears to be our issues, mostly. Thanks again for your support.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, slide was just one. That turned out to be that the motor had not been factory attached properly. Things started falling apart - Driver seat not adjustable ( I could not reach the floor) - Steering was so bad it wandered all over the road (I was a truck driver) - and the list goes on!!! After 6 months we traded it in for a Georgetown.
That is so disappointing! For the money we spend on these motorhomes we should not be having these issues! Hope you are enjoying your Georgetown! Safe travels.
The first Class C is nice but instead of just a small couch I think they should have put recliners in place. I would rather recline and lose the drawer space underneath. The second thing is why don't the manufactures place the eyes of the stove top in line instead of side by side. This would give you so much more counter space. I know they do this as a safety feature but I think it should be an option for the buyer. I really like the twin bed option, it's nice to be able to relax and sleep without be disturbed by your partner and you can also place a fan between the beds for noise if your partner snores.
We really like the twin bed option too. Nice for partners that don't want to disturb each other and nice for people that aren't partners either. I have a feeling the manufacturers will begin to include stove tops with a different layout eventually. They need the stove top manufacturers to alter their design, but that will be perfect! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I like the smaller rv to go into state parks - could you show how you have to remove the comp toilet - do you have to roll out inside or is there an outdoor door to remove? I really like the twin bed system - Thanks for the info
Sorry we can't show you but there is an exterior door (on the driver's side of the RV) where you can remove the cassette for dumping. The Jayco Granite Ridge is a pretty cool floor plan. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
All very nice layouts....but since covid..Thor has had some bad reviews.....many problems they have a hard time fixing.....more worried about upfront sale....after that...not to well
That is true. The quality of construction with Thor, and other manufacturers, have really struggled over the last few years. But they aren't alone. Other brands that manufacture parts like slide motors (I'll remain nameless) need to do a better job as well. It's a shame that they rushed assembly on all these RVs to meet consumer demand. They've only damaged their reputation. Let's hope things will improve. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
The Granite Ridge 22T is just like the Ekko. Pretty cool floor plan for going off-road camping! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
These campers are nice. But, the last one lost me at wet bath. The last one I liked that there was no stove or oven. We don’t use our cooktop or oven in our TT. I the first one. I like the idea of twin beds.
Having a wet bath in a motorhome with this price tag was a bit surprising. I like the idea of twin beds too, especially since you can convert them to a King bed is you choose too. Thanks Kim!
Thank you for watching, enjoying and commenting on our RV tour videos. We appreciate your support! I am glad manufacturers are considering the twin bed options in RVs though.
Yes front seats swivel around. Great option for additional seating. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That's a great question. The Jayco Melbourne 24T has a MSRP of $164K but a quick glance at rvtrader.com I'm seeing dealerships advertise for $129-$139K so the costs are highly negotiable. We are seeing some pretty full dealership lots so I think demand isn't as high as in the past. Prices will have to start dropping. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I wouldn't buy an RV with a cassette toilet and/or the a/c unit right over the bed. The Vegas/Axis has DUCTED a/c which is very nice. But that corner shower IS a pain.
Those are great points...except for the A/C over the bed. A ton of RVs have at A/C positioned over the bed.. Is there something in particular about this A/C? Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
Vegas/Axis 24.1 are huge sellers, so Thor sees no reason to improve them. It's a shame, because they could use some of that generous cargo space to house a modern power system. That vast roof can easily hold more solar. They could ditch the obsolete Winegard and add Starlink. The fresh water system is already enclosed and the waste tanks are heated. Add dual pane windows (acrylic?) and make it 4 seasons with a thermal curtain isolating the cab. It's a fully 12 volt coach otherwise, why not convert to 12 volt A/C for quiet and efficiency? Make the driver's side bed a few inches shorter and expand the shower the few inches as that would make a world of difference. Upgrade the beds with better mattresses and add slats or a Froli system. Upgrade the heat/hot water with an AquaHot 125G as they are already putting in the Jayco Granite Ridge 22T. With an induction cooktop, the big propane tank could be ditched. Finally, give it a full body paint, upgrade the suspension, and rebadge it as Entegra, Jayco, or even Tiffin. Folks would easily be willing to pay a premium for these improvements.
I took out my Winegard with the roof over the WalMart pickup in Fairbanks AK. Never liked the design, with installing a sim card in it anyways. Replaced it with a external cell signal booster so any phone can utilize it. Have Starlink but only turn it on when I know I am going to be out of range a lot of the time. Having it shut off 8 months out of the year saves $1200.
Every manufacturer could improve the technology and RV features like you mentioned. And if they did the cost would easily double. It really depends on how the RV is going to be used - full-time, vacationer, extreme temperatures. Some of these features may be necessary to the average user but you did design an awesome motorhome. Thanks for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Glad to see you like the Jayco Granite Ridge. It is such a cool floor plan, very similar to the Winnebago Ekko. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
They lost me at the kitchen. It is beyond me why they don’t turn the stove top eyes front to back like you noted and create more counter space. The lack of receptacles is a deal breaker. I do really like 12v fridge and I do like the convection microwave combo.
Thanks Susan and Mike, great work. I know you just show them, you don't design them. First one: not a comfy sofa, more like a cramped love seat. Also, some people would require a chiropractor to adjust their neck after watching TV. Poor kitchen design for food prep. (maybe the designers don't camp or cook). Second one: the shower, hahahahaha, no thanks. Poor kitchen layout like number one. Third one: 204k, I'll pass. For that money I could buy 50 to 75 acres of unrestricted property. People would be endlessly trying to rationalize their purchase of such a tiny rig for a hefty price. Just my opinion.
Thanks Tuvia. All really great points. I think manufacturers are running out of good space in a motorhome this size. Trying to cram too much just make comforts like watching TV, cooking and showering nearly impossible. The Jayco Granite Ridge is very similar to the Winnebago Ekko and their pricing is the same. I think these motorhomes are designed to be off-road and have different features (that we don't really cover) that make it such a high price point. But you are right way too high for me too!
Hi Everyone,
We hope you enjoyed our video! Which motorhome with twin beds did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing you opinion about these RV floor plans.
I like the extra bench space in the last one, moving the portable cooktop outside is a great idea, with a BBQ, your meal prep is perfect. The XL beds are ideal for those of us with XL men. I don't mind the EW sleeping, I can drop off to sleep fast. 😊
The Jayco Granite Ridge is a great floor plan with some unique features. Falling asleep quickly is such a blessing!!! Thank you, as always, for your support Alison.
I like a small Class C (but preferably with no slides). These are all a nice length but the showers on the first two were too small. And I'm not a fan of the wet bath on the last one. I realize that I'm in a minority, but I'd like an option for a full dinette to allow for forward facing seats for children. I know that most folks seem to prefer the sofa or reclining style chairs, but forward-facing seat are safer for children. I'd like to see this bed option on more RVs. It gives you the best of both worlds, bunks or a king size bed. I also like that the bed is always available. On a sad note, the MSRP is kind of pricey for me. Thanks for the reviews.
These are all really great points. No slides = less maintenance ❤️. I never thought about the car seat situation with the lack of traditional dinettes. Thank you for pointing that out. I think the twin/king bed floor plan would be perfect for a RVs too! Thank you Shelley!
I agree with the front to back cooktop 💯
Just give so much more counter space. I think we'll begin to see more of that in the future! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Man I love the Jayco.
Jayco does a great job with floor plans. What do you like so much about this one?
I'm okay with the wet bath in the last one - nice to have all the storage in the back!
That storage was amazing!!! Definitely makes that motorhome a good option. Thanks Britt!
Great video as all ways
Thank you so much! We appreciate your support!
You always do such great, thorough reviews!
Thank you so much! We appreciate your support!
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We own (and love) this floorplan in a Winnebago. Both Jayco's have bed widths of only 32" which is too small for active sleepers (like our Ray). We permanently converted our 33" twin beds to one 88"x74" large king, which then allowed for real mattresses instead of cushions, which makes for much better sleeping. We relocated two drawers to where the aisle is and actually gained more storage. The Vegas/Axis twin beds are 38" wide and that extra 6" of width may negate the need to convert to a king. Lengthwise the Melbourne is almost too short at 72" (remember to allow room for pillows) except for the shortest people or a single traveler. The Vegas/Axis and Granite Ridge are better at 75" and 76" lengths, respectively. If you are a couple and one or both of you is over 6'2", these RVs might not be right for you, because crawling over one another during the night while using the east-west positioning is not ideal. With regard to the Melbourne, we also would not spend the extra money on a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis, which we have in our present RV, because they are expensive to maintain.
Great insight to all these motorhomes! Thank you for sharing your personal experience and perspective. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Great video. My fav twin model is the Winnebago View 24V. Jayco should make the couch a trifold soda like the Vegas.
Thank you! Winnebago View is a great floor plan. That's a great suggestion for the Jayco. Thanks for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
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Hi Mike and Susan! I like the Jayco Melbourne and the last Jayco. Thor Vegas was ok but not that shower. I liked both Jaycos I can’t decide which I like more. Great video as always.
Thank you Sherri! The Jayco motorhomes did have some unique and awesome features. Agree about the Thor shower, just too small. Thank you as always!
You provide a lot of info, but I am left wondering about solar or generator power. Thanks for your videos.
Thank you! Since we tour 3 (sometimes more) RV tours in each video we keep them brief and about the floor plan, otherwise the video length would be quite long. Our hope is that we can introduce a viewer to a floor plan they might like and from there can check out more information on the manufacturer's website. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
22T is an Ekko-fighter with some pluses and some minuses. Overall more pluses, such as the upgraded suspension with lift, induction cooktop, simpler electrical system, better microwave, and the AquaHot125G. Minuses include the inferior bath set-up and the omission of a Froli under-mattress system. Still waiting on more details about the OCCC and whether there is room for more battery and more solar. I believe the Starlink option is for a roof-mounted, phased array, stationary antenna, not a portable one.
They are very similar. Thank you for pointing our some of the differences. The roof mounted Starlink would be a disappointment. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
I love all of them♥️
We love the twin bed option in RVs, especially when they can convert to a King. Glad you liked them. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Last one. Perfect for 2 and a cassette toilet.
The Jayco Granite Ridge 22T has a great floor plan for a motorhome this size. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Always enjoy your videos!!! Comment - we had a Thor Vegas for six months. I really like Thor floor plans. We Couldn't stand it any more and there is not enough room here to explain all of our issues. The thing just started falling apart plus as a pro driver I could not stand driving it. I would not stay on the road. Not a good buy!! Nuff Said!!
Thank you for enjoying our videos. Sorry to hear about your issues with your Thor Vegas. Was it mostly slide related? That appears to be our issues, mostly. Thanks again for your support.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, slide was just one. That turned out to be that the motor had not been factory attached properly. Things started falling apart - Driver seat not adjustable ( I could not reach the floor) - Steering was so bad it wandered all over the road (I was a truck driver) - and the list goes on!!! After 6 months we traded it in for a Georgetown.
That is so disappointing! For the money we spend on these motorhomes we should not be having these issues! Hope you are enjoying your Georgetown! Safe travels.
I love the Ford Transit.
Glad they provide the Ford Transit option!
The first Class C is nice but instead of just a small couch I think they should have put recliners in place. I would rather recline and lose the drawer space underneath. The second thing is why don't the manufactures place the eyes of the stove top in line instead of side by side. This would give you so much more counter space. I know they do this as a safety feature but I think it should be an option for the buyer. I really like the twin bed option, it's nice to be able to relax and sleep without be disturbed by your partner and you can also place a fan between the beds for noise if your partner snores.
We really like the twin bed option too. Nice for partners that don't want to disturb each other and nice for people that aren't partners either. I have a feeling the manufacturers will begin to include stove tops with a different layout eventually. They need the stove top manufacturers to alter their design, but that will be perfect! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I like the smaller rv to go into state parks - could you show how you have to remove the comp toilet - do you have to roll out inside or is there an outdoor door to remove? I really like the twin bed system - Thanks for the info
Sorry we can't show you but there is an exterior door (on the driver's side of the RV) where you can remove the cassette for dumping. The Jayco Granite Ridge is a pretty cool floor plan. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
All very nice layouts....but since covid..Thor has had some bad reviews.....many problems they have a hard time fixing.....more worried about upfront sale....after that...not to well
That is true. The quality of construction with Thor, and other manufacturers, have really struggled over the last few years. But they aren't alone. Other brands that manufacture parts like slide motors (I'll remain nameless) need to do a better job as well. It's a shame that they rushed assembly on all these RVs to meet consumer demand. They've only damaged their reputation. Let's hope things will improve. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
I like the EKKO clone the best.
The Granite Ridge 22T is just like the Ekko. Pretty cool floor plan for going off-road camping! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Hello guys! Question? On the Thor Vegas is the couch available as a recliner couch instead???
Sorry the Thor Vegas 24.1 only comes with the sofa/couch option. Thanks for watching our video!
These campers are nice. But, the last one lost me at wet bath. The last one I liked that there was no stove or oven. We don’t use our cooktop or oven in our TT. I the first one. I like the idea of twin beds.
Having a wet bath in a motorhome with this price tag was a bit surprising. I like the idea of twin beds too, especially since you can convert them to a King bed is you choose too. Thanks Kim!
@@RVBlogger you’re welcome!! Do the manufacturers ever read these comments?
We have been told by some that they do. I truly believe this is the best way for them to actually get great feedback.@@kimkrebs451
@@RVBlogger thank you
Like your reviews, liked parts of all of those rvs, but wanted none of them overall
Thank you for watching, enjoying and commenting on our RV tour videos. We appreciate your support! I am glad manufacturers are considering the twin bed options in RVs though.
Granite Ridge is nice.
Love the floor plan of the Granite Ridge and that awesome outside storage. Thanks Adventures with Gnomie!
Long time no see
Missing our Class C tours? Me too! Thanks for watching our commenting.
@@RVBlogger not a problem, y’all have a good one
thank you! You too! @@zachryzimmerman4800
Ford transit best option. Do front seats swivel?
Yes front seats swivel around. Great option for additional seating. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
how much it is a RV like this one goes for ?
That's a great question. The Jayco Melbourne 24T has a MSRP of $164K but a quick glance at rvtrader.com I'm seeing dealerships advertise for $129-$139K so the costs are highly negotiable. We are seeing some pretty full dealership lots so I think demand isn't as high as in the past. Prices will have to start dropping. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I wouldn't buy an RV with a cassette toilet and/or the a/c unit right over the bed. The Vegas/Axis has DUCTED a/c which is very nice. But that corner shower IS a pain.
Those are great points...except for the A/C over the bed. A ton of RVs have at A/C positioned over the bed..
Is there something in particular about this A/C?
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
@@RVBloggerI'm a light sleeper, so the mid a/c is better 4 me.
@@1hackmodeller557 Gotcha!
Vegas/Axis 24.1 are huge sellers, so Thor sees no reason to improve them. It's a shame, because they could use some of that generous cargo space to house a modern power system. That vast roof can easily hold more solar. They could ditch the obsolete Winegard and add Starlink. The fresh water system is already enclosed and the waste tanks are heated. Add dual pane windows (acrylic?) and make it 4 seasons with a thermal curtain isolating the cab. It's a fully 12 volt coach otherwise, why not convert to 12 volt A/C for quiet and efficiency? Make the driver's side bed a few inches shorter and expand the shower the few inches as that would make a world of difference. Upgrade the beds with better mattresses and add slats or a Froli system. Upgrade the heat/hot water with an AquaHot 125G as they are already putting in the Jayco Granite Ridge 22T. With an induction cooktop, the big propane tank could be ditched. Finally, give it a full body paint, upgrade the suspension, and rebadge it as Entegra, Jayco, or even Tiffin. Folks would easily be willing to pay a premium for these improvements.
I took out my Winegard with the roof over the WalMart pickup in Fairbanks AK. Never liked the design, with installing a sim card in it anyways. Replaced it with a external cell signal booster so any phone can utilize it. Have Starlink but only turn it on when I know I am going to be out of range a lot of the time. Having it shut off 8 months out of the year saves $1200.
Every manufacturer could improve the technology and RV features like you mentioned. And if they did the cost would easily double. It really depends on how the RV is going to be used - full-time, vacationer, extreme temperatures. Some of these features may be necessary to the average user but you did design an awesome motorhome. Thanks for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
We also pause our Starlink when not in use. Great option!
Does Susan ever get to in front of the camera?
🤣 We keep saying I'm going to do a tour one day...but have you seen Mike's camera work???😜 Thanks Kim!
@@RVBlogger you’re welcome!! 😃
That Thor Vegas shower is terrible. Deal breaker for me.
Thought the same thing. That shower is just way too small! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I loved the Thir until you got to the bathroom. ugh
I think the shower in there might be a bit too small. Thanks for watching our video and commenting!
I really liked this until the wet bath.
We are not a fan of a wet bath either!
$109k for a class A is almost cheap! 😊
The MSRP was $169k but I was amazed at how low the show prices were. You can definitely get a great deal. Thanks Erin!
On RVT they have a new 2023 Axis 24.3 for $90k, which is close to 50% off MSRP. Prices are falling.
@@rvfishing8817 - Great! We had a class A gas once, not sure I want to go through that again. 😳
@@rvfishing8817 yes they are! Thankfully! Plus they’re making room for 2024 models.
1. Mercedes no, 2. Yes it has potential, 3. Nice.
Glad to see you like the Jayco Granite Ridge. It is such a cool floor plan, very similar to the Winnebago Ekko. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
They lost me at the kitchen. It is beyond me why they don’t turn the stove top eyes front to back like you noted and create more counter space. The lack of receptacles is a deal breaker. I do really like 12v fridge and I do like the convection microwave combo.
I agree with you! Great features to point out! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Not big on a wet bath at that price.
Very understandable, big price tag for a wet bath. Thanks for watching our video and commenting.
Thanks Susan and Mike, great work. I know you just show them, you don't design them. First one: not a comfy sofa, more like a cramped love seat. Also, some people would require a chiropractor to adjust their neck after watching TV. Poor kitchen design for food prep. (maybe the designers don't camp or cook). Second one: the shower, hahahahaha, no thanks. Poor kitchen layout like number one. Third one: 204k, I'll pass. For that money I could buy 50 to 75 acres of unrestricted property. People would be endlessly trying to rationalize their purchase of such a tiny rig for a hefty price. Just my opinion.
Thanks Tuvia. All really great points. I think manufacturers are running out of good space in a motorhome this size. Trying to cram too much just make comforts like watching TV, cooking and showering nearly impossible. The Jayco Granite Ridge is very similar to the Winnebago Ekko and their pricing is the same. I think these motorhomes are designed to be off-road and have different features (that we don't really cover) that make it such a high price point. But you are right way too high for me too!
I didn't like any if them
Sorry about that. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!