Many of you are missing the point. What she went through was traumatic. He stalked her, hunted her, forced and pinned her down. I don't know if she'll ever look at him the same. When he walked towards her after Hope left she stepped back...that's fear. And the thing that really bothers her, is that of all the memories he could cling to he clung to the darkest one, the very worse version of himself. Having the woman you love step back when you walks towards her in fear is not something you ever want to see. I'm Elijah's biggest fan and defender and I understand his character since the days of TVD. But I can understand Hayley's feelings and reaction.
Gary Taylor she should be afraid and is but she doesn't understand how bad his darkest memory torments him and he wants to break free I think that's why he clung to it and she doesn't understand that yet
Of course Hayley was scared, he was physically attacking her, she's not used to Elijah ever hurting her in that way. He was literally abusing her. I'm sure she'll forgive him when he returns, especially after talking to Klaus.
Ash Hill okay, you say that. But what bothers me is what she said to Klaus in the end. "the innocent people, the slaughter". Like wtf did she expect !!! She always saw him kill innocent people, and she killed innocent ppl herself. She never gave a fuck, just always calmly tell Elijah to stop, she never was mad about it. As she's selfish and delusional and think everything is about her, when Freya Said he should be in a place that defined him, Hayley just assumed that her relationship with him is what defined him. When she found out it's not that, she got mad.
The universe Of design I disagree on that. Hayley saw the people Elijah killed were after her or trying to kill her. In her mind it's them or her. So with her selfish ways and SELF PRESERVATION. She chose herself. It's kill or be killed.
The universe Of design well excuse the fuck out of Hayley for daring to think the man she loves would be in a place of happiness he claims to have with her. I hope when he comes back he goes and finds his red door to be by his side.
I do agree that hayley went into protective mama mode mainly because she was worried about hope and all that adreneline made her want to fight back and protect hope!
Was anyone else like scared as fuck for Hayley.... We've heard of his past but fuck me we can start to understand why the entire world fears the originals that shit was fucking horrific ...
Of course Hayley knows Elijah's past, but this was scary, even I was scared of Elijah, she almost died and it's obvious she will forgive him but she needs time.
mia I agree I think that Hayley knew this deep down but being in his mind and seeing and feelin the people he slaughtered and his fangs in her neck it was more real than she ever imagined it ta be. I feel tha Hayley still is madly in luv with him but at tha same time afraid of him because of wat happened even klaus talked to her and said "it wasn't all rainbows and unicorns " but he also said that Elijah only did wat was nessicary ta save his family
Marqayjah Balque Exactly, Hayley loves him and she never thought that he could ever hurt her. She knew his past but she wasn't expecting being his victim. lol
mia it's even more hurtful because Elijah hid away in bus brain where he is most happy. Haley went to their memory first thinking she made him happy. Instead she found him where his darkest past is.
Dragon King Oscurare Well yea that is his Niece, but again Elijah wasn't himself when he attack Hayley. Hayley went to Elijah past over thousand years at red door, when Elijah never meant Hayley, He didn't know what was going on with him during his darkness times when first turn to original vampire because of his Mom turn him into vampire right along with her other children.
This scene was so intense! It's something special about Freya and Hope working together! That was a long chase. Then Of course Elijah wouldn't forgive himself if he hurt Hayley and Klaus would totally lose it if Hope was hurt in any way during all of this and blame everyone involved. The way Hope was able to snap Elijah out of it and save the day was crazy amazing, whether Hayley wants to admit it or not Hope is definitely needed when it comes to saving people. Hayley will most likely forgive, but will never forget.
The look on poor Hope's face is definitely fear ... Elijah looks different from the nice uncle she knows. Is it just me that his pale face, staring and dark suit make him look ghostly and inhuman?
daniela aguirre Elijah couldn't help it, at that time he couldn't control himself he's mind was very unstable in that past that when first turn into a vampire killing all those Innocent people was beyond His control, He didn't know what he was doing when He chasing Hayley down, and attacking her. Those was the same old cloths Elijah wears when he first turn Into original vampire thanks to his stupid witch of Mother.
@@samueljeshurunlamechp9894 yea, now that a year passed, I get what you are saying. legacies is total BS. I mean like they somehow managed to include star wars in there. insult to tvd and to.
I love how at 1:39 she smacks the shit out of Elijah i'm dying cause he needed that😂. Also, Hope is very powerful at a young age who knows how powerful she'll become when she is 21. Invincible!
I think the reason why Hayley was scared, wasn't because he has a dark past but because he chose the darkest part of his mind to stay......if that makes sense. The darkest part of him is the core of him and knowing that somewhere so dark is what Elijah is built around scares her. She wanted the core of him to be somewhere happy.......somewhere good. In my opinion at least 😊.
AmBriexRko 02 the darkest part is the core of him because so much of himself is centered on that trauma, on that horror and pain, and so much of him is trying to hide from it and deny it and not wanting to be haunted by it that's why he ended up there
BetaArtemis yeah I understand all that but Hayley didn't, she wanted/thought he was built around something good and red door was only a part of him a traumatizing part of him but not what he was built around, she was expecting a nice scene; a family memory. That's what I think, I could be wrong.
The darkness is his core, that's why he is the way he is. His life is based on Klaus' redemption, because this will bring him closer to his own redemption. He never acts selfish. Because he gives weight to the darkness, and permits it to condition all his action, which means protect his family, protect the innocence of the people he loves, because he knows he can't do nothing to regain his own.
well elijah isn't exactly a saint. everyone knows that, klaus even said that "they are the villian in every story..." elijah himself admitted to cami that he tried to keep it under control but they are vampires and not just any vampires, they are the "originals" the very first vampire created using the power of "nature" which also cursed them. he can try to live with his own morals and try to be noble but he will still go back to what "nature" made them to be they are "predators".
It's amazing how elijah dresses clean and acts like a perfect original vampire but really it's from is past because he had lot's of troubles in his past about being a vampire and that memeory is a surpirse to hayley because she never knew about what elijah's memories are!
oh come on hayley is upset coz elijah didn't listen her , elijah came to his senses because on his niece . so it shows Elijah love mikaelsons more then anyone including Hayeley
I hope she forgives Elijah because it wasn't his fault it kills me because he always sacrifices himself and still ends up losing at the end. He loves Hayley and would never hurt her... she needs to realize she fell in love with an original not just any original, but one with a past that continues to haunt him
Hayley deserved the hell she got for assuming she was the one closest to Elijah.......WTF? I think the siblings of a thousand years, beat out the current lay. The "Always and Forever" of Klaus or Rebekah could have found him easily. I find it funny that Hope.....the thing that attracted Elijah to Hayley in the first place is what actually got him back. I don't think it was Hope's power that stirred Elijah--I think it was her connection to Klaus.
lili linda are you serious? the man's mind was in pieces, he wasn't even in control of himself because of what the Hollow did to him, they had to go in there and try to find him and wake him up - this had nothing to do with abuse and everything to do with the fact that his mind was shattered to pieces and they had to save him. he wasn't even in control or in his right mind, blaming him and calling him abusive is literally the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard people like you who throw "abuse" around so easily are the reason that real abuse never gets taken seriously this wasn't abuse, any person with simple logic would understand here's hoping you never end up in a situation where your mind suffers trauma and is in pieces and then people scream at you being abusive over something you don't have control over...... there is a huge difference between attacking someone when you're not in your right mind and attacking someone when you have full control of your mind - even criminal law itself takes mindset and intent into account when judging if someone is guilty or not
lili linda his mind was literally shattered. You would think she knew what the red door meant and in the past and even present Elijah still kills people Although he was worse back then because he had less control. Hayley should know this considering she has killed and hunted people before two.
Yes Hope was scared when she first saw Elijah but then we saw her smile, she knew her uncle Elijah was back🥺. He hurt her mom obviously it would scare her but she knew the moment he was back to himself
M Stupid Hayley being stupid, never go into the red door, She must really thought, She can control unstable monster Elijah. Lucky Hope was there, Elijah hears his niece Hope and stop, He could never hurt Hope that's how powerful Hope is, the fact her Uncle can hear her and stop attacking Hayley.
What you don't get is that Hayley is not upset that Elijah did all those things. She's not stupid, she knew that already. And she knows damn well they've all done terrible things. What she's upset about is that the door Elijah chose to find solace in was the actual red door. Behind that door Elijah has done the most horrifying things of his life. He supposedly felt ashamed of them and yet there he was, finding refuge in there. The things he did made him feel good. Freya herself told Hayley that the door Elijah's behind represents the fundamental base of his true nature. If Elijah was as good as he pretends to be then he would find solace in a good, pure moment with someone he loves. Instead he chose the wrong door. Elijah pretends to be something he's not and he's fooled everyone, even Klaus and it shows here. Klaus thinks Elijah is the best of them all because of his facade but in reality he's the darkest of them all. For now the only ones who know who Elijah truly is are Marcel and Vincent. Hopefully Hayley sees it too now. Also.. let me make a simple parallel here. Stefan about Damon: He's the right man. Klaus about Elijah: He's the best of us all. Both brothers are equally delusional.
Irene P-DubberHooligan I truly understand where you're coming from. However I think its true of almost any person, we finds out who we are and are our truest selves in horrible situations or when things go wrong. When we are at out lowest or most vulnerable we are the closest to our core. In every moment any of the walked in on there was a piece of him there,he acknowledged them. Not to mention some people find comfort in their pain, or liked the freedom we felt in doing something before we knew what brought that feeling was wrong. The only mistake I see made here is that Haley finally saw Elijah without the rose colored glasses of a lesser/weaker love and has to decide what that means for her. Elijah like Stephan, has to forgive himself his past crimes when he was strong in body but without discipline, without a teacher to guide him and without the chaotic family dynamics. Its ok to be a monster if you know it ,chose not to do monstrous things but forgive yourself for earlier mistakes. Elijah isn't faking being civilized ,he just isn't giving his uncivilized nature the respect it deserves.
Hayley was acting like Elijah would attack Hope. He might have attacked her but it doesn't mean he'd attack Hope. She's his family and really Klaus should have gone to get Elijah back because he knows how to deal with his brother. Hayley was kidding herself thinking she could handle it
Seriously after everything Elijah and Hayley have been through and now she is terrified of him, he told her about his past and what the hell was she expected when she went through the red door.
I do get Hayley. It's like dating a really nice guy who's had a troubled childhood and might have done some time in juvie. That's not who he is anymore now so you don't mind. Until you find out that he landed in juvie because he used to skin puppies alive. Like love of your life or not, that might be a reason to back away slowly
Kelli K he tried to kill her the fudge I would back up too. plus if he attacks she can't win so hell yh stay back dude. U can't forgive n two seconds. hopefully down the line tho
I don't think Hayley was upset or blamed Elijah for something. She was just scared. The one things is when you know that something terrifying happened and the other is seeing this yourself. Of course she knew Elijah got dark times and saw many times him killing people but he was in control there. And this day she finds Elijah out of control. He was ready to kill anyone he can see. He was a real monster and she didn't see in him anything she knew in the normal Elijah she loves. That's absolutely another person in your loved man's body and this person tries to kill you. I think she has right to be scared
I understand Hayley's reaction. I don't think she will leave Elijah. When he became himself again, it was so obvious that one of his biggest fears has been realised (Season 2, episode 5. in the opening scene). he's hurt the woman he loves. I think that if this relationship is to end, it would be Elijah who will end it. Because he would be too scared to hurt her again.
1) I like that Elijah chose the darkest part of him because the darkest part of him is connected to his family, which is the most important thing to him. 2) Yes it was Hope’s magic that opened the door but Hope has always been a daughter to all her aunts and uncle’s, her magic broke through to him and he remembered about her and how much he loved his family and niece
I completely understand hayleys reaction!! I don’t understand why she is getting hate. Her boyfriend just attacked her! And this isn’t the Elijah she knows, the Elijah she knows would never hurt her in a million years!! She knew he had a bad past but she never imagined this.. she was clearly traumatised and hurt. When he steps toward her and she proceeds to step back you can see the fear. It’s wasn’t hayleys fault but it wasn’t Elijah either. It was nobody’s fault. So Hayley or Elijah should not be getting hate, yes everyone has their own opinion and this is mine.
Everyone is wondering why Haley is acting the way she is when if you think about it hard enough put in her situation you might very well act the same way. Out of a thousand years worth of memories, he chooses the darkest time in his life to hide when he has come to know what real love is and what it means to be united as a family. Not only that he viciously attacked her despite her efforts to get through to him, something she would have never thought would happen in a million years. She feels betrayed on so many different levels. She thought she was good enough for him to not hide in the darkest parts of his mind. She thought she had the capability of being able to bring him back from the very edge of insanity and monstrosity. The everyday person who is in love and genuinely cares about their significant other feels like they are able to do this for their partner and almost assumes/expects vice versa. What she is feeling and how she is acting has nothing to do with his just his "past" It's so much more than that.
MeganBaxter that makes her sound delusional...love doesn't fix everything, it's not some magical button you press and everything falls in line... the problem isn't Elijah's actions or where he hid, the problem is Hayley's delusion and putting Elijah on a pedestal of her own imagining and then freaking out when this whole "love conquers all" thing didn't work out
MeganBaxter Hayley knew he killed People. That was a time when he was younger ( as you can see from the clothing) and he didn't have complete control as we see the dead bodies. He is 1,000 years old and they've been dating for 1 or 2 years. It just proves she doesn't know Elijah . She has Hunted and killed People before too , the only difference is that she was the prey this time.
MeganBaxter exactly, she's probably upset because she thought she could save him just by saying his name, hence her telling freya "no one knows him like I do."
You guys are missing the point, one of the most fundamental things in a relationship is trust. Yes, Elijah was not himself and maybe she assumed or was delusional that she could be able to reach out to in the manner she did and he recognize her, but most people in love with someone is going to think they're that person who can pull them from the dark. She has every right to react how she did cause as one of you said she was stalked, hunted, and attacked. Most people in a relationship aren't going to think that their partner is going to just that to them. I mean of your into that fine but clearly she like most others aren't.
MeganBaxter you make it sound like Elijah made a choice to hunt and stalk and attack her, as if somehow he’s not the victim who was killed and got his mind scattered to pieces - this isn’t some random occasion where he just decided to attack her and hurt her for funsies - he was a victim who had to deal with death and his mind tore apart - it’s not like this was him in full control of himself just deciding to chase her and harm because because he could He was in trouble because of something he didn’t choose, because of a situation that he was forced into - yeah most people isn’t gonna expect an attack but most people aren’t gonna expect to have to go into their significant others’ mind to try to piece them back together after they’ve been killed. This is hardly some normal circumstance of a typical man going into rage and a woman having to endure - this is clearly a very unique circumstance where Elijah was forced into having his mind torn apart and going through an incredibly painful time period. If Hayley is scared that’s fine, but it’s not like she didn’t know the dangers going into his mind, it’s not as if she didn’t know that this wasn’t Elijah’s fault that his mind got torn in the first place Your comment of “if you’re into that” is so incredibly dismissive and not to mention completely ignores the context of why this happened - Elijah was kidnapped and killed and had his mind torn to pieces and is basically tortured - a fair comparison to real life would be would you blame a loved one whom after being kidnapped and been tortured for weeks and has his mind broken and doesn’t recognize you and lashes out - would you then act like this is somehow their fault? Or would you recognize that they are a victim and need your comfort? Yeah she’s scared but what did she think he went through? It wasn’t like a walk in the park for him either.
Okay I get Hayley just had a traumatic experience but really *what did you expect to find in a 1000 year old, unkillable, original vampire’s worst memories?*
She went through the red door, to say that it was a risky play would put it mildly. Where she found him was when he was newly turned and gorging on blood. Hayley is no pushover in the real world but she is in Elijah's mind and has only the power he sees her as having, if she has any power at all. The fact that he didn't immediaty kill her shows that he was fighting his instinct the entire time. He didn't chase her, she was running away in crippling fear which shows she didn't have her Hybrid strength. In fact if this had taken place in the real world she wouldn't have been as scared as she was. Notice how she only physically recoils from him while shes in his mind, when Elijah is resurrected she doesn't fear him anymore as a threat to her. She was only disappointed that out of all his memories he retreated to his darkest hour and that changed how she viewed him. While Elijah cannot be killed without White Oak, Hayley herself can transform into what is shown in other episodes as a giant wolf with enough strength to easily kill a group of ancient vampires that where chasing her as she tried to find the cure to Marcels venom. In this form she could've easily at least disabled Elijah enough to escape. That's the reason the writers made this take place in Elijah's mind. Hayley is estimated to have the same physical strength and speed of an ancient Vampire even in her human form...
I hope hayley forgives Elijah she shouldn't of been scared of him he was broken and not all memories are good and he does have a dark past and can't change it nowb
What'd Haley even to happen? She went behind the red door. Elijah has told her numerous times he has a dark past & has done horrible things, he's a centuries old vampire. Did she expect him to just suddenly be ok because it was her?
i don't really know what Hayley expected, she went through the red door where he hides all his darkest memories and of course he didn't recognise her in there and his mind was shattered. I get that it was traumatic but what did she expect his mind was in pieces.
i knew that red door was go be horroble lol....klaus barley saved him the first time ...hope always been the key as she the strongest...she is a the original and only tribreed...she healed hayley inutero...that first time hayley been hurt by him and seen him so dark ...but she should forgive him ...i do lol
I don't see how any of what we saw was scary with Elijah. We've seen multiple deaths and slaughter's on this show so I'm not moved by it at all. It was Elijah being controlled by his blood lust and that's it. He's not innocent and he's not more noble than his siblings and most of us were already aware of that. This is nothing new.
Illemerence It's a show. Obviously what Hayley knows and sees is different with the audience. She has put Elijah on high pedestal because of the way she treats him. But that dream of Elijah as her knight in shining armor is broken.
Whole 4th original season,
"We need to protect Hope"... *Hope saves all of them*
Hahahahahahahah Made my day 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cute nice good beautiful 😘
Hope kills all of them
I think Hope and Bonnie are Healers(in my opinion)
Mystery Family 공무원 istg. Bonnie got used
IS ANYONE GONNA MENTION HOW HAYLEY WENT INTO PROTECTIVE MOMMA MODE?????
♥lollypop♥ ikr!!!!!
IK ITS SO CUTE
Hayley and klaus...love it when it comes to protecting hope.. Suoer strong protective parents that no one should mess with.. Hayley klaus family
Ikrr!
Yesss like it’s over once she’s on momma mode
Hope is saving EVERYONE at this point.
I agree
They basically nerfed her powers in legacies lol. From the age of 5-17 she got weaker
@@shivshetty3045 nah. In s5 she was still mentioned as the strongest.she made a spell that noone could break. In legacies she nurfed
Nya Burrell Bonnie couldn’t stand a fight with hope when hope is not NERFED even when she is nerved Bonnie couldn’t stand a chance
Shiv it’s because they change the style of magic the whole show makes witches look NERFED and stupid
"Please forgive me"
The look on his face shattered my heart into little pieces...
Many of you are missing the point. What she went through was traumatic. He stalked her, hunted her, forced and pinned her down. I don't know if she'll ever look at him the same. When he walked towards her after Hope left she stepped back...that's fear. And the thing that really bothers her, is that of all the memories he could cling to he clung to the darkest one, the very worse version of himself. Having the woman you love step back when you walks towards her in fear is not something you ever want to see. I'm Elijah's biggest fan and defender and I understand his character since the days of TVD. But I can understand Hayley's feelings and reaction.
Gary Taylor she should be afraid and is but she doesn't understand how bad his darkest memory torments him and he wants to break free I think that's why he clung to it and she doesn't understand that yet
Of course Hayley was scared, he was physically attacking her, she's not used to Elijah ever hurting her in that way. He was literally abusing her. I'm sure she'll forgive him when he returns, especially after talking to Klaus.
Ash Hill okay, you say that. But what bothers me is what she said to Klaus in the end. "the innocent people, the slaughter". Like wtf did she expect !!! She always saw him kill innocent people, and she killed innocent ppl herself. She never gave a fuck, just always calmly tell Elijah to stop, she never was mad about it. As she's selfish and delusional and think everything is about her, when Freya Said he should be in a place that defined him, Hayley just assumed that her relationship with him is what defined him. When she found out it's not that, she got mad.
The universe Of design I disagree on that. Hayley saw the people Elijah killed were after her or trying to kill her. In her mind it's them or her. So with her selfish ways and SELF PRESERVATION. She chose herself. It's kill or be killed.
The universe Of design well excuse the fuck out of Hayley for daring to think the man she loves would be in a place of happiness he claims to have with her. I hope when he comes back he goes and finds his red door to be by his side.
Lol at abuse. How many times have the originals held their loved ones by the neck?
Assault not abuse
Hope looks like Klaus. I'm just now seeing it. Same eyes, Same lips
Ene Adaga I think it is safe to say she has more of her mother's personality for now though.
Stoyan Petkov Yea I was referring to the physical traits
Bruh they’re just actors they ain’t family
GABY S. yeah but when it comes to family they have to match them and they did a good job
this is the first time that ive seen haley scared in the originals
"Please forgive me" For what? Your darkest memories, The darkest place in your mind? That is like apologizing for breathing.
ツ_iTzRiazPvP yes but you have to understand what being a “Michelson” is
He is apologizing for hunting her, for hurting her, for nearly killing her. He scared her. She feared him. I think that´s worth apologizing for....
Uh idk for ATTACKING the poor woman
@@sarahpetersen6619
Yeah true but Elijah is still a very good man
You taking Hayley's side? She's such a hypocrite because she knows that wasn't him and then like a bitch, she goes and kicks him to the curb for it.
phoebe slayed this
I do agree that hayley went into protective mama mode mainly because she was worried about hope and all that adreneline made her want to fight back and protect hope!
Was anyone else like scared as fuck for Hayley.... We've heard of his past but fuck me we can start to understand why the entire world fears the originals that shit was fucking horrific ...
Select Obvi yep
Can you imagine 4-5 of them coming to town?? We know Klaus and Kol and even Rebekah can be almost as terrifying.
Of course Hayley knows Elijah's past, but this was scary, even I was scared of Elijah, she almost died and it's obvious she will forgive him but she needs time.
mia I agree I think that Hayley knew this deep down but being in his mind and seeing and feelin the people he slaughtered and his fangs in her neck it was more real than she ever imagined it ta be. I feel tha Hayley still is madly in luv with him but at tha same time afraid of him because of wat happened even klaus talked to her and said "it wasn't all rainbows and unicorns " but he also said that Elijah only did wat was nessicary ta save his family
Marqayjah Balque Exactly, Hayley loves him and she never thought that he could ever hurt her. She knew his past but she wasn't expecting being his victim. lol
mia exactly I'm not sure why people are giving Hayley a hard time, she was physically attacked by the man she loves, it had to be hurtful.
she was also mentally attacked, stalking her like Jason and Freddy, that was what scared her the most
mia it's even more hurtful because Elijah hid away in bus brain where he is most happy. Haley went to their memory first thinking she made him happy. Instead she found him where his darkest past is.
So it was Hope who brought Elijah back, guess that he values her more than Hayley.
Dragon King Oscurare Hayley is fucking useless
made since.. From when he found out Haley was pregnant it was Elijah who protected her and wanted her. Even before either one of her parents did.
Dragon King Oscurare
Well yea that is his Niece,
but again Elijah wasn't himself
when he attack Hayley.
Hayley went to Elijah past
over thousand years at red door,
when Elijah never meant Hayley,
He didn't know what was going on
with him during his darkness times
when first turn to original vampire
because of his Mom turn him
into vampire right
along with her other children.
Of course he does Hope is his beloved brother's child.......Hayley was her incubator.
what a great way to talk about women lol
This scene was so intense! It's something special about Freya and Hope working together! That was a long chase. Then Of course Elijah wouldn't forgive himself if he hurt Hayley and Klaus would totally lose it if Hope was hurt in any way during all of this and blame everyone involved. The way Hope was able to snap Elijah out of it and save the day was crazy amazing, whether Hayley wants to admit it or not Hope is definitely needed when it comes to saving people. Hayley will most likely forgive, but will never forget.
Brittstime hope save Haley Haley great mom Klaus great dad
1:54 “Elijah please don’t do this to me” 😭 this broke me. She was begging. I know it wasn’t her fault or his but this broke me.
Hope saved him ..YESS
Love how hope is like the ultimate power boost for hayley
I hate how dark Elijah's been this season, but I love that it's Hope that snaps him out of his bloodlust.
Yeah and I hate Antoinette her "girlfriend" 😑😐
"Mum where are you mum"
That was so cute the way Hope said it .
The look on poor Hope's face is definitely fear ... Elijah looks different from the nice uncle she knows. Is it just me that his pale face, staring and dark suit make him look ghostly and inhuman?
Daaammmm girl 😐
I knew Elijah was dark but that scared like shit 😓
daniela aguirre
Elijah couldn't help it,
at that time he couldn't
control himself he's mind
was very unstable in that
past that when first turn into
a vampire killing all those
Innocent people was beyond
His control, He didn't know
what he was doing when
He chasing Hayley down,
and attacking her.
Those was the same old cloths
Elijah wears when he first turn
Into original vampire thanks
to his stupid witch of Mother.
Hope saves everyone risking her own life in originals and legacies too !!!
She is a true and a brave girl 🙂🙂🙂
Legacies is bullshit...Malivore this and Malivore that, with monster this and monster that...It's an insult to TVD and TO
@@samueljeshurunlamechp9894 yea, now that a year passed, I get what you are saying. legacies is total BS. I mean like they somehow managed to include star wars in there. insult to tvd and to.
I love how at 1:39 she smacks the shit out of Elijah i'm dying cause he needed that😂. Also, Hope is very powerful at a young age who knows how powerful she'll become when she is 21. Invincible!
I think the reason why Hayley was scared, wasn't because he has a dark past but because he chose the darkest part of his mind to stay......if that makes sense. The darkest part of him is the core of him and knowing that somewhere so dark is what Elijah is built around scares her. She wanted the core of him to be somewhere happy.......somewhere good. In my opinion at least 😊.
AmBriexRko 02 the darkest part is the core of him because so much of himself is centered on that trauma, on that horror and pain, and so much of him is trying to hide from it and deny it and not wanting to be haunted by it
that's why he ended up there
BetaArtemis yeah I understand all that but Hayley didn't, she wanted/thought he was built around something good and red door was only a part of him a traumatizing part of him but not what he was built around, she was expecting a nice scene; a family memory. That's what I think, I could be wrong.
The darkness is his core, that's why he is the way he is. His life is based on Klaus' redemption, because this will bring him closer to his own redemption. He never acts selfish. Because he gives weight to the darkness, and permits it to condition all his action, which means protect his family, protect the innocence of the people he loves, because he knows he can't do nothing to regain his own.
well elijah isn't exactly a saint. everyone knows that, klaus even said that "they are the villian in every story..." elijah himself admitted to cami that he tried to keep it under control but they are vampires and not just any vampires, they are the "originals" the very first vampire created using the power of "nature" which also cursed them. he can try to live with his own morals and try to be noble but he will still go back to what "nature" made them to be they are "predators".
It's amazing how elijah dresses clean and acts like a perfect original vampire but really it's from is past because he had lot's of troubles in his past about being a vampire and that memeory is a surpirse to hayley because she never knew about what elijah's memories are!
Hope is so cute when she said mommy!
oh come on hayley is upset coz elijah didn't listen her , elijah came to his senses because on his niece . so it shows Elijah love mikaelsons more then anyone including Hayeley
That not what happen she used magic to help him go back to normal
Awe, freya teaching hope. that was cute.
I loved that little girl, I wish there would have been more scenes with Hope.
I hope she forgives Elijah because it wasn't his fault it kills me because he always sacrifices himself and still ends up losing at the end. He loves Hayley and would never hurt her... she needs to realize she fell in love with an original not just any original, but one with a past that continues to haunt him
this is 100000 times better than tvd! the characters developed so much and the family is just amazing! always and forever
I love Hope! She's powerful and brave Lil girl that will do anything to save her family! They all have dark past so no point being mad at him...
Hayley deserved the hell she got for assuming she was the one closest to Elijah.......WTF? I think the siblings of a thousand years, beat out the current lay. The "Always and Forever" of Klaus or Rebekah could have found him easily.
I find it funny that Hope.....the thing that attracted Elijah to Hayley in the first place is what actually got him back. I don't think it was Hope's power that stirred Elijah--I think it was her connection to Klaus.
Hope opened the door using her power causing elijah to reconnect with his other memories.
Well he didn't open up his mind to anyone else but her so...
She unintentionally used magic to bring him back
If Hayley and Elijah Break up I'll be like WTF coz Hayley has killed innocent people like that would be unfair
STRVP5200 agree
he fucking abused her but okay I guess it's not enough reason to break up with him
lili linda how did he abuse her?
lili linda are you serious? the man's mind was in pieces, he wasn't even in control of himself because of what the Hollow did to him, they had to go in there and try to find him and wake him up - this had nothing to do with abuse and everything to do with the fact that his mind was shattered to pieces and they had to save him.
he wasn't even in control or in his right mind, blaming him and calling him abusive is literally the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
people like you who throw "abuse" around so easily are the reason that real abuse never gets taken seriously
this wasn't abuse, any person with simple logic would understand
here's hoping you never end up in a situation where your mind suffers trauma and is in pieces and then people scream at you being abusive over something you don't have control over......
there is a huge difference between attacking someone when you're not in your right mind and attacking someone when you have full control of your mind - even criminal law itself takes mindset and intent into account when judging if someone is guilty or not
lili linda his mind was literally shattered. You would think she knew what the red door meant and in the past and even present Elijah still kills people Although he was worse back then because he had less control. Hayley should know this considering she has killed and hunted people before two.
Yes Hope was scared when she first saw Elijah but then we saw her smile, she knew her uncle Elijah was back🥺. He hurt her mom obviously it would scare her but she knew the moment he was back to himself
this broke my heart
😢
Hearing something vs experiencing something are two different things and that's what happened when Hayley went into Elijah's mind
I’ve replayed this scene sooo many times yet I’m still SHOOK. 😧
What did she think they fed on for 1000 years?
M 😂😂😂
Bunny blood lol
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Stupid Hayley being stupid,
never go into the red door,
She must really thought,
She can control unstable monster
Elijah.
Lucky Hope was there,
Elijah hears his niece Hope
and stop, He could never hurt Hope that's how powerful Hope is,
the fact her Uncle can hear her
and stop attacking Hayley.
What you don't get is that Hayley is not upset that Elijah did all those things. She's not stupid, she knew that already. And she knows damn well they've all done terrible things. What she's upset about is that the door Elijah chose to find solace in was the actual red door. Behind that door Elijah has done the most horrifying things of his life. He supposedly felt ashamed of them and yet there he was, finding refuge in there. The things he did made him feel good. Freya herself told Hayley that the door Elijah's behind represents the fundamental base of his true nature. If Elijah was as good as he pretends to be then he would find solace in a good, pure moment with someone he loves. Instead he chose the wrong door. Elijah pretends to be something he's not and he's fooled everyone, even Klaus and it shows here. Klaus thinks Elijah is the best of them all because of his facade but in reality he's the darkest of them all. For now the only ones who know who Elijah truly is are Marcel and Vincent. Hopefully Hayley sees it too now.
Also.. let me make a simple parallel here.
Stefan about Damon: He's the right man.
Klaus about Elijah: He's the best of us all.
Both brothers are equally delusional.
Irene P-DubberHooligan I truly understand where you're coming from. However I think its true of almost any person, we finds out who we are and are our truest selves in horrible situations or when things go wrong. When we are at out lowest or most vulnerable we are the closest to our core. In every moment any of the walked in on there was a piece of him there,he acknowledged them. Not to mention some people find comfort in their pain, or liked the freedom we felt in doing something before we knew what brought that feeling was wrong. The only mistake I see made here is that Haley finally saw Elijah without the rose colored glasses of a lesser/weaker love and has to decide what that means for her. Elijah like Stephan, has to forgive himself his past crimes when he was strong in body but without discipline, without a teacher to guide him and without the chaotic family dynamics. Its ok to be a monster if you know it ,chose not to do monstrous things but forgive yourself for earlier mistakes. Elijah isn't faking being civilized ,he just isn't giving his uncivilized nature the respect it deserves.
Her face when he said her name
when Hope sees Elijah as a vampire for the first time her face was so vulnerable I just wanted to protect her 2:46
Hayley was acting like Elijah would attack Hope. He might have attacked her but it doesn't mean he'd attack Hope. She's his family and really Klaus should have gone to get Elijah back because he knows how to deal with his brother. Hayley was kidding herself thinking she could handle it
i thought hayley likes getting it on tables
Walter Jones hahahaha
Walter Jones 😏😂
i know right and i thought she likes it wild as well, guess it a no no when he is way too wild to control.
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LMFAOOO so truuuu most of her sex scenes have been on tables
that moment when children hope is a better actress than teenage hope
I love Freya. SHES AWESOME
Seriously after everything Elijah and Hayley have been through and now she is terrified of him, he told her about his past and what the hell was she expected when she went through the red door.
Mother hood can change everything 😇😭👩🏽👶🏽
Hope is literally the rock of this show
Elijah was going to give her that Super Red door Original pipe. Hayley was afraid probably thinking she's better off with the OG Hybrid Pipe.
Timmy Turner's Burner Haha, what the fuck? 🤣Goofy.
lmao!
🤣🤣 lmfao best thing I seen all day
WTF!! lmao
Freya and Hope kicking ass this season!!!! Loving it.
Not sure what Hayley was expecting behind the red door.
I do get Hayley. It's like dating a really nice guy who's had a troubled childhood and might have done some time in juvie. That's not who he is anymore now so you don't mind. Until you find out that he landed in juvie because he used to skin puppies alive. Like love of your life or not, that might be a reason to back away slowly
I have no idea why but I love the part when Elijah steppe towards Hayley and she moves back because she is scared I HAVE ISSUES OKAY
What were they expecting? They were all trying to protect her but Hope ends up saving them all. Children rule.
Whole season 4 of the originals
" we need to save hope "
HOPE SAVES EVERYONE
Me " at this point there not saving her she's saving them "
Hayley needs to forgive him
Kelli K he tried to kill her the fudge I would back up too. plus if he attacks she can't win so hell yh stay back dude. U can't forgive n two seconds. hopefully down the line tho
MrsD._ how sure Hayley will forgive him?
If I tell you what I am but you refuse to believe me.......
Kelli K no she doesn't
Kelli K she does though Bc he has a very dark past but he isn’t that person anymore
I don't think Hayley was upset or blamed Elijah for something. She was just scared. The one things is when you know that something terrifying happened and the other is seeing this yourself. Of course she knew Elijah got dark times and saw many times him killing people but he was in control there. And this day she finds Elijah out of control. He was ready to kill anyone he can see. He was a real monster and she didn't see in him anything she knew in the normal Elijah she loves. That's absolutely another person in your loved man's body and this person tries to kill you. I think she has right to be scared
Elijah is much more ruthless then Klaus.
That’s for sure.
Freya kisses hope is the sweetest thing she love her
Ikr, Dahlia could neverrrr- 💅🏻😒💅🏻
Klaus seriously stands no chance against this Elijah. He is the real monster above all!
finally the scene i've waited since the start of this season
aunt and niece cast spells together
I understand Hayley's reaction. I don't think she will leave Elijah.
When he became himself again, it was so obvious that one of his biggest fears has been realised (Season 2, episode 5. in the opening scene). he's hurt the woman he loves. I think that if this relationship is to end, it would be Elijah who will end it. Because he would be too scared to hurt her again.
Elijah has one of the best story line.
I love how people are hating on Hayley. bruh she doesn't write the script
Who is hating on her? I absolutely loved her and cried my ass off when she died.
1) I like that Elijah chose the darkest part of him because the darkest part of him is connected to his family, which is the most important thing to him.
2) Yes it was Hope’s magic that opened the door but Hope has always been a daughter to all her aunts and uncle’s, her magic broke through to him and he remembered about her and how much he loved his family and niece
Damn it really shows how powerful Hope really is.
damn this was intense and interesting I love it!
I completely understand hayleys reaction!! I don’t understand why she is getting hate. Her boyfriend just attacked her! And this isn’t the Elijah she knows, the Elijah she knows would never hurt her in a million years!! She knew he had a bad past but she never imagined this.. she was clearly traumatised and hurt. When he steps toward her and she proceeds to step back you can see the fear. It’s wasn’t hayleys fault but it wasn’t Elijah either. It was nobody’s fault. So Hayley or Elijah should not be getting hate, yes everyone has their own opinion and this is mine.
She is the most powerful which in the world no one can say different period
Everyone is wondering why Haley is acting the way she is when if you think about it hard enough put in her situation you might very well act the same way. Out of a thousand years worth of memories, he chooses the darkest time in his life to hide when he has come to know what real love is and what it means to be united as a family. Not only that he viciously attacked her despite her efforts to get through to him, something she would have never thought would happen in a million years. She feels betrayed on so many different levels. She thought she was good enough for him to not hide in the darkest parts of his mind. She thought she had the capability of being able to bring him back from the very edge of insanity and monstrosity. The everyday person who is in love and genuinely cares about their significant other feels like they are able to do this for their partner and almost assumes/expects vice versa. What she is feeling and how she is acting has nothing to do with his just his "past" It's so much more than that.
MeganBaxter that makes her sound delusional...love doesn't fix everything, it's not some magical button you press and everything falls in line...
the problem isn't Elijah's actions or where he hid, the problem is Hayley's delusion and putting Elijah on a pedestal of her own imagining and then freaking out when this whole "love conquers all" thing didn't work out
MeganBaxter Hayley knew he killed People. That was a time when he was younger ( as you can see from the clothing) and he didn't have complete control as we see the dead bodies. He is 1,000 years old and they've been dating for 1 or 2 years. It just proves she doesn't know Elijah . She has Hunted and killed People before too , the only difference is that she was the prey this time.
MeganBaxter exactly, she's probably upset because she thought she could save him just by saying his name, hence her telling freya "no one knows him like I do."
You guys are missing the point, one of the most fundamental things in a relationship is trust. Yes, Elijah was not himself and maybe she assumed or was delusional that she could be able to reach out to in the manner she did and he recognize her, but most people in love with someone is going to think they're that person who can pull them from the dark. She has every right to react how she did cause as one of you said she was stalked, hunted, and attacked. Most people in a relationship aren't going to think that their partner is going to just that to them. I mean of your into that fine but clearly she like most others aren't.
MeganBaxter you make it sound like Elijah made a choice to hunt and stalk and attack her, as if somehow he’s not the victim who was killed and got his mind scattered to pieces - this isn’t some random occasion where he just decided to attack her and hurt her for funsies - he was a victim who had to deal with death and his mind tore apart - it’s not like this was him in full control of himself just deciding to chase her and harm because because he could
He was in trouble because of something he didn’t choose, because of a situation that he was forced into - yeah most people isn’t gonna expect an attack but most people aren’t gonna expect to have to go into their significant others’ mind to try to piece them back together after they’ve been killed.
This is hardly some normal circumstance of a typical man going into rage and a woman having to endure - this is clearly a very unique circumstance where Elijah was forced into having his mind torn apart and going through an incredibly painful time period.
If Hayley is scared that’s fine, but it’s not like she didn’t know the dangers going into his mind, it’s not as if she didn’t know that this wasn’t Elijah’s fault that his mind got torn in the first place
Your comment of “if you’re into that” is so incredibly dismissive and not to mention completely ignores the context of why this happened - Elijah was kidnapped and killed and had his mind torn to pieces and is basically tortured - a fair comparison to real life would be would you blame a loved one whom after being kidnapped and been tortured for weeks and has his mind broken and doesn’t recognize you and lashes out - would you then act like this is somehow their fault? Or would you recognize that they are a victim and need your comfort?
Yeah she’s scared but what did she think he went through? It wasn’t like a walk in the park for him either.
My Haylijah heart falling to pieces. 'please forgive me'
I love the vampire diaries and the originals they are the best tv show ever made
Do you know legacies?
but like the last moment of elijah & hayley, they're not okay. Like when elijah still remembers
Once again hayley is trown onto a table, first with klaus in tvd, then with elijah when they first...you know...and then now...
Okay I get Hayley just had a traumatic experience but really *what did you expect to find in a 1000 year old, unkillable, original vampire’s worst memories?*
Girrrrrrl i needs Elijah in my life.💝💃💝💃
*I know right*
She went through the red door, to say that it was a risky play would put it mildly. Where she found him was when he was newly turned and gorging on blood. Hayley is no pushover in the real world but she is in Elijah's mind and has only the power he sees her as having, if she has any power at all.
The fact that he didn't immediaty kill her shows that he was fighting his instinct the entire time. He didn't chase her, she was running away in crippling fear which shows she didn't have her Hybrid strength.
In fact if this had taken place in the real world she wouldn't have been as scared as she was. Notice how she only physically recoils from him while shes in his mind, when Elijah is resurrected she doesn't fear him anymore as a threat to her. She was only disappointed that out of all his memories he retreated to his darkest hour and that changed how she viewed him.
While Elijah cannot be killed without White Oak, Hayley herself can transform into what is shown in other episodes as a giant wolf with enough strength to easily kill a group of ancient vampires that where chasing her as she tried to find the cure to Marcels venom.
In this form she could've easily at least disabled Elijah enough to escape. That's the reason the writers made this take place in Elijah's mind. Hayley is estimated to have the same physical strength and speed of an ancient Vampire even in her human form...
*I'm too lazy to read this all*
Omg I'm so sorry but I'm crying cause hope and Hayley are the most cute relationship ever
Man that was some serious ass whooping
I hope hayley forgives Elijah she shouldn't of been scared of him he was broken and not all memories are good and he does have a dark past and can't change it nowb
Im daying hayley now. Fuck elijah
I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANXIETY BUT THIS SHIT NEARLY MADE ME FAINT I WAS SO DAMN ANXIOUS
It's so sad Hayley & Elijah were such an amazing couple but they were never the same after this 💔
That was awesome
What'd Haley even to happen? She went behind the red door. Elijah has told her numerous times he has a dark past & has done horrible things, he's a centuries old vampire. Did she expect him to just suddenly be ok because it was her?
The fact that she still found a way to love hime after this
This Elijah is stronger than all original superpowers
I loved her name “ hope “❤️I love it so much
1:40 Girl bye, not Hayley’s famous Mikaelson B*tch Slap 😂
ok i thought i stopped caring for Elijah but GOD!!! I'm feeling bad for him again!!!
and why Hayley's behaving like nah!!! he wasn't himself!
Bella IB thanks
Love the show, but lately they've been using Hope as a tool to solve problems...its getting boring now
Sabina Sun Agree she's following her mother's footsteps in Mary Sue territory
Lmao, then you probably haven't seen Legacies...
Once hayley heard hopes voice there was no stopping her. She overpowered elijah which is impressive 1:17
idk why hayley was so surprised that it happened. Elijah is a vampire. and he’s been alive for 1000+ years. like what did you expect?!
i don't really know what Hayley expected, she went through the red door where he hides all his darkest memories and of course he didn't recognise her in there and his mind was shattered. I get that it was traumatic but what did she expect his mind was in pieces.
i knew that red door was go be horroble lol....klaus barley saved him the first time ...hope always been the key as she the strongest...she is a the original and only tribreed...she healed hayley inutero...that first time hayley been hurt by him and seen him so dark ...but she should forgive him ...i do lol
Hope to dzielna dziewczynka, prawdziwy Mikaelson, pierworodna córka swoich rodziców i moja ulubiona bohaterka
Elijahs face when hope does magic😅😅
Hope is a Legend 🥰
I don't see how any of what we saw was scary with Elijah. We've seen multiple deaths and slaughter's on this show so I'm not moved by it at all. It was Elijah being controlled by his blood lust and that's it. He's not innocent and he's not more noble than his siblings and most of us were already aware of that. This is nothing new.
Illemerence This is so true. Didn't find it horrific at all. I looked at it and I thought "okay. We already saw something like that"
The universe Of design Right! Haha, just another day in life with the Mikaelson's.
Illemerence It's a show. Obviously what Hayley knows and sees is different with the audience. She has put Elijah on high pedestal because of the way she treats him. But that dream of Elijah as her knight in shining armor is broken.
I want to see inside all the characters minds now!! Which memory they hold on to.
Venusius No, that's who I'm referring to, the audience. This comment isn't about Hayley. It's about Elijah.
Hope was the best thing to happen to the show
I knew hope was going to save him I guessed it right now all we need is Hope VS. the Hollow battle I think hope would win