Great video Ryan. We used to use our cattle ear tag marker to wrap/mark the wrapped hay. When we took the bales out we would rolls the old plastic up in front of the remaining wrapped bales, kind of like rolling a poster up. When done we would put it in the garbage dumpster. We used to put a straw bale in the ends if we didn’t have plastic end caps as well.
Thank heavens you can spray paint O's really well. Because if one of them looked like an "A" then, well, the whole effort takes on a whole new meaning.
Really enjoyed the video, Ryan! Something so satisfying watching the bales get wrapped up like that. Looks like everything went pretty well considering you are new to the machine. Keep up the great work and God bless - Everett
There's always a learning curve with a new tool. So, would that be: "That's a wrap for 2021 hay."? (joking....I've been watching the weather and hopefully this warm dry stuff you've had the last few days allowed Travis to make the valley and provided good conditions for harvest as shown on your FB story.)
Hope this is going to end up well . Over damp hay needs to breath a bit , there isnt enough moisture for it to ensile correctly & become stable in storage . If you baled at higher moisture it would be better maybe i think , ie make silage instead of hay . A cattle eartag marker is excellent to mark bales & each family member could have a paper copy of the bale layout etc in their loader tractor .
35% is very good moisture for ensiling baleage. At that moisture it will certainly mold if it can breathe at all. At 25% you could get away with letting it sweat out, especially if you have acid on it, but 30-45% is perfect for baleage.
That Kuhn wrapper was a good piece of equipment & up to 6ft bales is a bonus especially if they are 5 ft wide . I have wrapped hay but usually cut back to individuals & re stack . Silage is easy maybe Ryan will go that way , cut & teddered on day one & baled the next day .
Why don't you make silage? You already wrap it so the cost is the same. Wouldn't the quality be even better and lot less work? I don't want to nag I'm just curious.
I do not understand the “yours, mine and ours” approach to family farming. Perhaps you could do a video to explain why that business model is so widely used in family farms.
It rots because of air infiltration (oxygen). The whole idea of making silage is to harvest crop with enough moisture for naturally present yeasts to start a fermentation process... the yeasts eat some of the sugar or starch from the plants and produce alcohol and acetic acid (vinegar) as waste products. The acetic acid reduces the pH and the alcohol is lethal to anaerobic bacteria, which are the ones that cause rot. The trick is, of course, to 1) have sufficient moisture and conditions to favor the yeasts rapidly fermenting the forage so the byproducts of the yeasts (alcohol and acetic acid) can preserve (basically PICKLE, same process as used to make pickles!) the forage before anaerobic bacteria can start to rot it down. The second trick is to make sure it's wrapped sufficiently to exclude oxygen from getting in, because oxygen will break down the acetic acid and perforations in the plastic will allow the alcohol to be broken down or escape from reacting with oxygen, which will then allow rot to occur in the area where oxygen gets in. Why you have to walk the rows and tape up bird holes or tears from animals or whatever with duct tape to prevent oxygen from getting in. Also why you either use 1) a plastic bale-end cap on the end of the row or 2) a dry hay or low-quality "end bale" just to provide a barrier to oxygen infiltration. The same principles apply to making silage in other forms... upright stave silos work by packing the forage in tightly enough under its own weight to exclude air, except the top layer that gets pretty rotty, unless it's fed out pretty frequently before it can degrade much. Harvestore silos were made to be airtight, with porcelain coated steel rings, and a porcelained steel top cap, with a sealed hatch for the silo blower to blow the silage in as it's harvested, and then an air bag system to allow for pressure changes in volume of gases inside the silo (gas expansion from fermentation and settling of the silage, as well as temperature changes) while keeping the oxygen out by allowing air into and out of the silo via a sealed plastic bag bladder in the top of the silo which can expand or contract as needed to keep the pressure in the silo the same as outside ambient air. Bunker silos (horizontal bunkers) have the silage dumped into them and tightly packed in by driving tractors or heavy equipment over it as it's dumped in, which presses it all together tightly and squeezes the air out, and when the bunker is filled it is then covered in airtight plastic sheeting and covered with old tires or whatever to keep the plastic taut against the top of the bunker, to keep oxygen out. Later! OL J R :)
You can get problems if there is too much moisture in the material so the yeasts can't properly ferment it, or if it is too dry and the yeasts can't ferment it. Then it can deteriorate badly for sure... Later! OL J R :)
There's a 280 acre property for sale about 10 miles south of you. They want $1,300,000 for it lol. Wish I had the money to buy it and rent out the land.
You could improve your graffiti by having a simple code that you use instead of full words, something like R1DA (Ryan, 1st Cut, Dry, Alfalfa) or D4WG (Dad, 4th cut, Wet, Grass), it would be faster to write and provide more information without walking the whole row if you mark every 3rd of 4th bale.
Can you post a video about how you all farm together but separate? Like how you keep track of fuel/equipment/labor etc
It’s ridiculous
Great video Ryan. We used to use our cattle ear tag marker to wrap/mark the wrapped hay. When we took the bales out we would rolls the old plastic up in front of the remaining wrapped bales, kind of like rolling a poster up. When done we would put it in the garbage dumpster. We used to put a straw bale in the ends if we didn’t have plastic end caps as well.
Thank heavens you can spray paint O's really well. Because if one of them looked like an "A" then, well, the whole effort takes on a whole new meaning.
Glad you got it all dry wrapped. The quality will be there many months longer.
Thanks for the video. Take care.
awsome video ryan thats alot of bales for sure great job thumbs up and shared
Hope you continue this partnership with Kuhn next year and they get you a baler and wrapper sooner next year.
Great family effort as usual Ryan. Good wrapper. Probably cheaper than building and maintaining a shed.
Wrapping is a great thing not only can you bale higher moisture hay you can protect what you baled under good conditions without storing in sheds.
Was that a Owl around the 8:40 mark
The wrapper does a good job well done brother
Great How Farms Work Video, thanks for sharing
Thanks for the update and great video, that wrapper is one sweet piece of equipment 👍
Hey Ryan!! Your graffiti skills did improve towards the end.
Hey Darrin! I’ve never been real good with my hands 🙌🏼
@@HowFarmsWork there's a picnic table that would disagree
Kool wrapper u should ask Santa to put that under ur Christmas tree 🎄 hope the bales store well for ya
Enjoyed the video. Cool watching the wrapper work.
Really enjoyed the video, Ryan! Something so satisfying watching the bales get wrapped up like that. Looks like everything went pretty well considering you are new to the machine. Keep up the great work and God bless - Everett
Great video! Do you keep the ends of the rows open (bale exposed) or do you cover them?
So if there is a lot of moisture in these bales, what keeps them from turning into silage after wrapping?
They should market that wrapper as a bale burrito maker😎😎😎keep em comin Ryan 🇺🇸
this was very informative and Kuhn wrapper is fascinating
It's amazing the tools available to the modern farmer I hope the profits cover the cost lol By the way I recieved my hat that I ordered I love it
I hope the rain didn't hurt the sale value for Travis. Good luck on grain harvest.
Not a bad wrap job🤙🏾 Looks like a bunch of marshmallows lined up😄
The wrapper is a great tool to have when you make hay later in the year😉👍
Great video👍👍
I see farms here use paint or they switch wrap colors to show changes.
Great video Ryan thank you 🙏
There's always a learning curve with a new tool. So, would that be: "That's a wrap for 2021 hay."? (joking....I've been watching the weather and hopefully this warm dry stuff you've had the last few days allowed Travis to make the valley and provided good conditions for harvest as shown on your FB story.)
"I got some red paint, I hope it lasts the winter. I'm just gonna....... throw it on the floor right here." lol
So are we going to have a crazy winter, or a blah winter this season?
Hope this is going to end up well . Over damp hay needs to breath a bit , there isnt enough moisture for it to ensile correctly & become stable in storage . If you baled at higher moisture it would be better maybe i think , ie make silage instead of hay . A cattle eartag marker is excellent to mark bales & each family member could have a paper copy of the bale layout etc in their loader tractor .
35% is very good moisture for ensiling baleage. At that moisture it will certainly mold if it can breathe at all. At 25% you could get away with letting it sweat out, especially if you have acid on it, but 30-45% is perfect for baleage.
That Kuhn wrapper was a good piece of equipment & up to 6ft bales is a bonus especially if they are 5 ft wide . I have wrapped hay but usually cut back to individuals & re stack . Silage is easy maybe Ryan will go that way , cut & teddered on day one & baled the next day .
Where's your end caps to keep the air out. Not needed so much on dry buy definitely needed on wet.
Great job Ryan:):)
Why don't you make silage? You already wrap it so the cost is the same. Wouldn't the quality be even better and lot less work? I don't want to nag I'm just curious.
How many bales of hay do your cows eat per year? How many head of cattle do you have?
Why did you choose to wrap the bales into a tube? Did you consider an individual bale wrapper?
Much faster to wrap with an inline wrapper and far less plastic used
So is it something worth buying if ya have the money
I think so. It would free up a lot of inside storage too if you’ve already got the shed space
@@HowFarmsWork Or rent one for 6 days a year?
Why not use end cap plastic on the end bales?
$100 apiece and many Farmer’s don’t use them anyway
No point of using end caps for dry hay
Simpler to use a leftover perhaps garbage bale. When my brother couldn't find a good candidate bale he just made a homemade cap.
$100!!!! The guy that wraps for us charges around $10 per end cap
@@matthewroth2257 Yup your right they’re $10
Pretty good at that graffiti, is there a past we don't know about lol. Another great video
What the cost on the bale rapper - not cheap i bet
I do not understand the “yours, mine and ours” approach to family farming. Perhaps you could do a video to explain why that business model is so widely used in family farms.
You didn't wrap some of the broken bales. What are you going to do with those?
Feed those ones first
Nice wrapper unit! But what I've seen let Hannah do the "graffitti" next time. ;D
Paint will be fine. We've done it before. Worst thing that happens is fading from sun.
Seems confusing to me!! haha Don't get mad at me in Jan. when I accidentally give your brother 8 of your hay bales! :-)
Hey Ryan, can you give me a cost per bale to continuous wrap round bales, Paul from Eastern Iowa
That’s hard to do. Most people charge $4/bale plus wrap if you hire it done. It all depends on how many bales you do in the end.
Depends on bales size $8-$12 if you hire it done
Be safe
Where’s Travis’s hay?
Good 👍
How much is the wrapping machine worth?
Well to new to find a price unless ya call a dealer or Ryan tells ya what kuhn said on a price
If you put green grass in a trash can liner it rots anaerobicly. You're probably going get more rot than you expect
It rots because of air infiltration (oxygen). The whole idea of making silage is to harvest crop with enough moisture for naturally present yeasts to start a fermentation process... the yeasts eat some of the sugar or starch from the plants and produce alcohol and acetic acid (vinegar) as waste products. The acetic acid reduces the pH and the alcohol is lethal to anaerobic bacteria, which are the ones that cause rot. The trick is, of course, to 1) have sufficient moisture and conditions to favor the yeasts rapidly fermenting the forage so the byproducts of the yeasts (alcohol and acetic acid) can preserve (basically PICKLE, same process as used to make pickles!) the forage before anaerobic bacteria can start to rot it down. The second trick is to make sure it's wrapped sufficiently to exclude oxygen from getting in, because oxygen will break down the acetic acid and perforations in the plastic will allow the alcohol to be broken down or escape from reacting with oxygen, which will then allow rot to occur in the area where oxygen gets in. Why you have to walk the rows and tape up bird holes or tears from animals or whatever with duct tape to prevent oxygen from getting in. Also why you either use 1) a plastic bale-end cap on the end of the row or 2) a dry hay or low-quality "end bale" just to provide a barrier to oxygen infiltration.
The same principles apply to making silage in other forms... upright stave silos work by packing the forage in tightly enough under its own weight to exclude air, except the top layer that gets pretty rotty, unless it's fed out pretty frequently before it can degrade much. Harvestore silos were made to be airtight, with porcelain coated steel rings, and a porcelained steel top cap, with a sealed hatch for the silo blower to blow the silage in as it's harvested, and then an air bag system to allow for pressure changes in volume of gases inside the silo (gas expansion from fermentation and settling of the silage, as well as temperature changes) while keeping the oxygen out by allowing air into and out of the silo via a sealed plastic bag bladder in the top of the silo which can expand or contract as needed to keep the pressure in the silo the same as outside ambient air. Bunker silos (horizontal bunkers) have the silage dumped into them and tightly packed in by driving tractors or heavy equipment over it as it's dumped in, which presses it all together tightly and squeezes the air out, and when the bunker is filled it is then covered in airtight plastic sheeting and covered with old tires or whatever to keep the plastic taut against the top of the bunker, to keep oxygen out.
Later! OL J R :)
You can get problems if there is too much moisture in the material so the yeasts can't properly ferment it, or if it is too dry and the yeasts can't ferment it. Then it can deteriorate badly for sure... Later! OL J R :)
Any viewers of this channel fans of the show Futurama?
Your dads name is Dwight? I named my oldest son Dwight 👍🏼
There's a 280 acre property for sale about 10 miles south of you. They want $1,300,000 for it lol. Wish I had the money to buy it and rent out the land.
You could improve your graffiti by having a simple code that you use instead of full words, something like R1DA (Ryan, 1st Cut, Dry, Alfalfa) or D4WG (Dad, 4th cut, Wet, Grass), it would be faster to write and provide more information without walking the whole row if you mark every 3rd of 4th bale.
I'd forget the CODE LOL
And now soybeans and corn.
Share the hay come on now you are all family
Whatching you spray paint is NOT good content