He was a bit more than a talisman. More like an integral part of the team and made more than just his third if the personality of the team. Hal is willing to learn too and he will become an even greater player. He is two steps ahead of Evan or reps.
theres a reason every pro says zero is the smartest player in the game and has the best macro and micro by far, cause he not only recviews his vods after every day but all the other teams vods as well so he knows how they play and rotate, thats why hes able to predict plays so well the man is a walking arhive of pro league apex knowledge
@@cygnuscraft9544 To the extent of Zero? The only one that comes to a second place is Raven and is not even close, and Raven is not a pro-player. Hal as IGL relied more on what he would do on x situation and that's why he was caught on so many braindead plays, not everyone thinks as Hal.Zero on the other hand relies more on the knowledge he acquired watching the VODs
Zero is so right with not dying for it. If you die to get a kill you did nothing. You net 0. Trading is not a good thing and a lot of people think it is.
Trading a knock is good if it wins you the fight because it makes space for your teammates to make a play. Often the difference between a good trade and a bad trade is the follow up by your teammates. Obviously trading a full kill is worse than trading a knock, but sometimes it is still the best possible outcome realistically speaking. In theory of course you want to win every fight without trading at all, but in practice this is simply not possible.
@@soccerguy2433 nope. You gain NOTHING. Your teammate is now down, so both teams are in a bad spot. Neither team is in a good spot when both have 1 go down. It’s so freaking simple but you just don’t get it. You lose way more than you gain. It’s not a 50/50 it’s you going down to get a kill. You do not go down to get a kill, if you do you did bad and you could have done better.
Verhulst should not be IGL atm. I think he should be anchor or let someone else take IGL. He's a really good controller player and just needs to have a set team.
@@illyaaqasha5387 soz I meant; if I were to use trolling in that context; essentially I'd be griefing and making fun of other players I didn't think that was the case here.
Did yall like expect tsm to just pop off or something. It hasn’t even been a month yet with them and it’s definitely a challenge to try to igl when you don’t really have the experience. I don’t expect them to beat falcons since they’re a new team but they just need more time.
Even said they had a chance to pick up Dropped but decided not to. Y'all are trolling. Kick Reps out, keep Zap and get Dropped. Winning means making the hard decisions and Reps is dead weight
Its because he has no idea how to play the game other than pew pewing his 40% aimbot input, Evan and Reps know how to play the game but dont have dominant personalities. I would rather have an A or B tier player that could think than an S tier moron. Zaps B tier at best and cant think
Reps needs to igl. Reps was the original igl for tsm. Reps has the most experience. Reps has played with the best igl in the game for a long time, Hal. Reps was igl in a few games in algs when Hal was doing bad. It's a pretty simple decision.
Biggest problem im seing here is that Evan still needs to learn how to igl properly. Of course hes new to that role, but some plays (especially in the first 4 min of vod review) they pushed so weirdly and did so many questionable decisions
hal built the tsm roster basically for himself and his playstyle. now that he is gone, reps, verhulst and the new guy gotta figure out what each of their role is on the team and how they want to approach comp. verhulst is an absolute monster on the sticks but if you cant put him in the right spot at the right time he is never going to shine. reps is a solid mnk player that supported hal in game mainly anchoring for hal/verhulst. tsm desperately needs someone to step up on the team and lead them.
They clearly have to make decisions and call them straight. Idk how Evan will improve if he cant get aggressive enough and micro igl zap/reps. All hes doing was giving info, no hard shot calls. If I was his teammate I def wouldnt get out of my tunnel vision or would listen with both ears. All of them lack the ego thats why Hal left the team. He was always asking what reps and evan were doing while he was in the middle of the battlefield. I hope Evan switches the legend too coz playing cat gives no major info unlike bh or movement/survivability with bang. You dont want to stay at the front as cat or stay back as an IGL asking for info
If something happens to Zach’s team I think he’d be a good IGL for TSM. He’s pretty calm and always brings his teammates back into a flow state. They might mesh pretty well.
What is this guy doing? Pure negative energy, analysing all of there growing pains publicly. One thing I’ve learnt about life is that tearing people down brings you no joy, focus on bettering yourself with that energy. Verlhust is a gentleman, he’ll rise above this.
They lost there common sense and the person who would yell when they wouldn’t listen not to push in or when to push in that’s what they are lacking they need some aggression with sense
this is why i thought dezign would be good for them, it obviously wasn't the right fit but they def needed someone with a big voice and aggressive gameplay, you cant be too passive. especially now with the random POI selection, teams need to be more flexible in their playstyle. and i was afraid reps and evan arnt aggresive enough.
How? Hal is the better fragger, smarter player, more cohesive with the envirorment of Zero and Gens banter etc. This team is literally perfect, doesn't mean they'll win everything, but thats just because of the nature of Battle Royal.
The way they playing is just ranked, evan always speak is good but zap & reps is just so silent, reps need lead their team tbh why you play bangalore even if you cant igl & zap idk he still noob cant blame it for that, the reason evan succes when joining tsm is hal exist & zap need someone to guide him tho & reps cant do that 😅
Thats right, you can be the best at aiming/tracking/movement but if you decisions are utter sh!t you will loose. In addition teammates moving into your line of fire is another thing i rage about in games and cost them the knock @6:00 This is one thing i never do in game is move infront of a teammate thats shooting... guess i learn that from playing paintball competitively for many years. But hey, people that play these games never been in a real shootout where things actually hurt so run around and move willy nilly as they please.
Only goes to show how important Hal was for them. Sure, he was sometimes unbearable after a failiure, but he also gave them a clear direction to follow and even when things were not going well for them he always found a way to mental reset and turn things around. Up until the last LAN, but they already knew it was their last dance together.
@@paul9978 it is necessary all these years of screaming, they need an alpha or they cant function anymore. Its the imperialhal curse It’s the legacy he left them with.
@@iimcastro bro, there's no such thing as an "alpha". And screaming is not necessary to communicate efficiently. They need to find somebody with experience and leadership or they need to develope both. With some practice i could see verhulst doing that. But it's not gonna be easy
@@paul9978both of you are correct. There needs to be screaming at SOME point. A team cannot be babied. I agree with both of you and no team is perfect. Screaming isn’t necessary, but when it does happen, people tend to learn from that mistake because the consequences they know will be severe. Take this however you like. These are my two cents.
Bro su. Skittles can’t even play the game right now. Calling him dumb is just a lowblow. There’s not that many igls that don’t compare to Hal or zero. Maybe strafingflame since he did reach out to Evan but this team hasn’t even played for a month yet. Give them time
This is the proof that Hal was 50% of the team, raven almost 30%, and sadly, reps and evan where the rest, and no, this is not hate to TSM or something like that, it's reality, like or not they need to re think the entire comp and for the love of god, evan or reps need to grab their 🥚🥚 and take the leadership or look for someone else to do it
Obviously TSM is going to find it tough after losing their talisman, they just need time for Evan to get confidence and they’ll be so right
He needs experience, being a good igl is not only about confidence
Bro it's obvious the dude doesn't know what he's doing he just needs to sticks to be a fragger
He’s a horrible igl tbh. Well, for tsm standard he’s horrible.
He was a bit more than a talisman. More like an integral part of the team and made more than just his third if the personality of the team. Hal is willing to learn too and he will become an even greater player. He is two steps ahead of Evan or reps.
Evan just doesnt have the IGL mentality . They wont get anywere without a actuly IGL
the problem is that big e forgots to guide his team sometimes, they are just wondering around the map
Evan wasn't igl during pro day. It was reps. Evan needs to if reps is gonna say he doesn't know what to do after the game
@@garrymiller3171Even also doesnt know or he woud take over . They need to get an actuel IGL
@@xythiera7255 this roster isn't changing. Zap is signed to tsm. Reps should be able to igl. But I do believe Evan can learn.
@@garrymiller3171sometimes it looks like zero wants Evan but he wants Evan to have experience
Zer0's reaction to any controller one clip is fucking hilarous. We need more montages 😂 5:15 💀
That was zero there to make it funnier lol
Bro got fucking melted
It's possible to hit a similar spray as an MnK player ngl, but most would defo have missed at least a few bullets there lmaooo.
Bro there's literally no IGLing going on here. WTF!
He took their IGL, what's he expect 😢
theres a reason every pro says zero is the smartest player in the game and has the best macro and micro by far, cause he not only recviews his vods after every day but all the other teams vods as well so he knows how they play and rotate, thats why hes able to predict plays so well the man is a walking arhive of pro league apex knowledge
I mean it's not just that. Literally anybody can watch vods and the majority of pros do that.
most pros do just offline. Hal is probably doing 12+ hours a day - 8-9 hours of stream then 2-3 of vod review for example.
@@cygnuscraft9544 To the extent of Zero? The only one that comes to a second place is Raven and is not even close, and Raven is not a pro-player. Hal as IGL relied more on what he would do on x situation and that's why he was caught on so many braindead plays, not everyone thinks as Hal.Zero on the other hand relies more on the knowledge he acquired watching the VODs
i wish i could understand anything zero says, he just mutters all the time like "dododododooododo". he sounds like a pomeranian
@@joanacosta5385 what do you mean raven is not a pro player homie 😂 maybe you need to get informed abt him
zero has that 'never been punched in the face' sort of vibe
Zero is so right with not dying for it.
If you die to get a kill you did nothing.
You net 0. Trading is not a good thing and a lot of people think it is.
Trading a knock is good if it wins you the fight because it makes space for your teammates to make a play. Often the difference between a good trade and a bad trade is the follow up by your teammates.
Obviously trading a full kill is worse than trading a knock, but sometimes it is still the best possible outcome realistically speaking.
In theory of course you want to win every fight without trading at all, but in practice this is simply not possible.
its not net zero
@@soccerguy2433 nope. You gain NOTHING. Your teammate is now down, so both teams are in a bad spot.
Neither team is in a good spot when both have 1 go down.
It’s so freaking simple but you just don’t get it.
You lose way more than you gain.
It’s not a 50/50 it’s you going down to get a kill.
You do not go down to get a kill, if you do you did bad and you could have done better.
@@InceyWincey absolutely brain dead
@@InceyWincey it’s not a good thing. You literally explained it to me and still think it’s a good thing. Dumb as fuuuuu
The DSG vod review was hilarious 😂
I can’t understand how reps has 4 years of experience winning LANs and refuses to be the IGL. He has to step up
Complacency
Hard to fill those shoes. And probably realizes that
Verhulst should not be IGL atm. I think he should be anchor or let someone else take IGL. He's a really good controller player and just needs to have a set team.
Jordan is IGL with zap and him throwing out ideas. It isnt working out for them as they need someone to take more initiative
Imagine thinkin you know more than Big E
Verhulst wasn't igl
@@garrymiller3171 Whoever was IGL should be making the most callouts and rotations. All I see is Verhulst pushing and saying 96% of the comms
@@NovusIncRaps was IGL .
This guy reps is always on his knees 🌚
Always
man it feels so bad seeing the boys do so poor. hoping they can find a solid igl for their team and rise back up. :(
this is why Zer0 is absolutely the best IGL, dude vod reviews and analyzes even other teams
A lot of ppl do that. Thats nothing new from IGLs/Pro players but it def helps a lot
So refreshing to see zero give positive advice for once.
When Zero says "trolling" he means they're basically throwing or playing super bad?
Both
@@illyaaqasha5387 soz I meant; if I were to use trolling in that context; essentially I'd be griefing and making fun of other players
I didn't think that was the case here.
Did yall like expect tsm to just pop off or something. It hasn’t even been a month yet with them and it’s definitely a challenge to try to igl when you don’t really have the experience. I don’t expect them to beat falcons since they’re a new team but they just need more time.
Even said they had a chance to pick up Dropped but decided not to. Y'all are trolling. Kick Reps out, keep Zap and get Dropped. Winning means making the hard decisions and Reps is dead weight
This is my comms in ranked games when I’m trying not to wake up the kids
Zap is pretty consistently the first one down
Becouse he has no IGL with a plan . Zap has no imput what to do so when he goes for kills he of course will be down first
Its because he has no idea how to play the game other than pew pewing his 40% aimbot input, Evan and Reps know how to play the game but dont have dominant personalities.
I would rather have an A or B tier player that could think than an S tier moron. Zaps B tier at best and cant think
Evan just needs to turn his comms into IGLing. He's comming great, just not really making decisions. They got this.
Reps needs to igl. Reps was the original igl for tsm. Reps has the most experience. Reps has played with the best igl in the game for a long time, Hal. Reps was igl in a few games in algs when Hal was doing bad. It's a pretty simple decision.
They need an IGL.
Biggest problem im seing here is that Evan still needs to learn how to igl properly. Of course hes new to that role, but some plays (especially in the first 4 min of vod review) they pushed so weirdly and did so many questionable decisions
Raps was the IGL and he is just super bad at it
@@xythiera7255 okay the fact that i couldnt tell says alot LMFAO
@@sprachloses5168 Yeah honestly, shits embarrasing. They need to find a real IGL or this teams going to fail misserably lol
hal built the tsm roster basically for himself and his playstyle. now that he is gone, reps, verhulst and the new guy gotta figure out what each of their role is on the team and how they want to approach comp. verhulst is an absolute monster on the sticks but if you cant put him in the right spot at the right time he is never going to shine. reps is a solid mnk player that supported hal in game mainly anchoring for hal/verhulst. tsm desperately needs someone to step up on the team and lead them.
they need to decide igl like actually this counter call bullshit need to stop
they need to find a igl
They clearly have to make decisions and call them straight. Idk how Evan will improve if he cant get aggressive enough and micro igl zap/reps. All hes doing was giving info, no hard shot calls. If I was his teammate I def wouldnt get out of my tunnel vision or would listen with both ears.
All of them lack the ego thats why Hal left the team. He was always asking what reps and evan were doing while he was in the middle of the battlefield.
I hope Evan switches the legend too coz playing cat gives no major info unlike bh or movement/survivability with bang. You dont want to stay at the front as cat or stay back as an IGL asking for info
They need sweet
If something happens to Zach’s team I think he’d be a good IGL for TSM. He’s pretty calm and always brings his teammates back into a flow state. They might mesh pretty well.
What is this guy doing? Pure negative energy, analysing all of there growing pains publicly.
One thing I’ve learnt about life is that tearing people down brings you no joy, focus on bettering yourself with that energy.
Verlhust is a gentleman, he’ll rise above this.
well considering how troll that looked its surprising they even got 20 so aye, they might do good once they've figured out some things
They lost there common sense and the person who would yell when they wouldn’t listen not to push in or when to push in that’s what they are lacking they need some aggression with sense
this is why i thought dezign would be good for them, it obviously wasn't the right fit but they def needed someone with a big voice and aggressive gameplay, you cant be too passive. especially now with the random POI selection, teams need to be more flexible in their playstyle. and i was afraid reps and evan arnt aggresive enough.
Imagine if Zer0 dropped Hal for Verhulst. Their team would be unstoppable.
That’s huge cap 😂 Evan is tuff but Hal is just better
The team would be decent but I dont get the point of having 2 anchor players when zer0 plays very aggressive after they got their armors to red
Hal is a better fragger and all around player. Verhulst is only better mechanically.
How? Hal is the better fragger, smarter player, more cohesive with the envirorment of Zero and Gens banter etc. This team is literally perfect, doesn't mean they'll win everything, but thats just because of the nature of Battle Royal.
Evan has overrall better controller aim, but his decision making and fight iq is way lower than Hal's. It's not even a contest tbh.
The way they playing is just ranked, evan always speak is good but zap & reps is just so silent, reps need lead their team tbh why you play bangalore even if you cant igl & zap idk he still noob cant blame it for that, the reason evan succes when joining tsm is hal exist & zap need someone to guide him tho & reps cant do that 😅
TSM is actually doing better with out Hal and Falcons are doing better with him. End of story
TSM team is not synchronize....so easy to bring it down.
Thats right, you can be the best at aiming/tracking/movement but if you decisions are utter sh!t you will loose. In addition teammates moving into your line of fire is another thing i rage about in games and cost them the knock @6:00 This is one thing i never do in game is move infront of a teammate thats shooting... guess i learn that from playing paintball competitively for many years. But hey, people that play these games never been in a real shootout where things actually hurt so run around and move willy nilly as they please.
Bro said he had covid? What the hell lmao how
What you mean how? It's a respiratory illness that anyone can get
Only goes to show how important Hal was for them. Sure, he was sometimes unbearable after a failiure, but he also gave them a clear direction to follow and even when things were not going well for them he always found a way to mental reset and turn things around. Up until the last LAN, but they already knew it was their last dance together.
they need someone to scream at them, it is what it is.
they just need a good igl or one of them needs to become one. screaming is not necessary at all
@@paul9978 it is necessary all these years of screaming, they need an alpha or they cant function anymore. Its the imperialhal curse
It’s the legacy he left them with.
@@iimcastro bro, there's no such thing as an "alpha". And screaming is not necessary to communicate efficiently. They need to find somebody with experience and leadership or they need to develope both. With some practice i could see verhulst doing that. But it's not gonna be easy
@@paul9978all,the best igls are aggressive asf, they’re at the top of a reason
@@paul9978both of you are correct. There needs to be screaming at SOME point. A team cannot be babied. I agree with both of you and no team is perfect. Screaming isn’t necessary, but when it does happen, people tend to learn from that mistake because the consequences they know will be severe. Take this however you like. These are my two cents.
arrrraaaaaaaaa
I really think reps has lost the passion
this is why Hal got tired of literally telling them everything to do…
Zap is garbo
They lost there igl and there coach relax get off there nuts off course it’s gonna be difficult for a lil bit
They should've got an igl tbh lol evan is dumb for pushing for another roller instead of a true igl mnk like skittles
Bro su. Skittles can’t even play the game right now. Calling him dumb is just a lowblow. There’s not that many igls that don’t compare to Hal or zero. Maybe strafingflame since he did reach out to Evan but this team hasn’t even played for a month yet. Give them time
Zap is so bad lol
Calling a pro so bad, they all top 0.001% players in the game
He’s not being IGL’d
@@pn7005 he’s still the worst “pro player” bro is lost out there .
He did just fine on E8. There's some common problems with being on a new team and adjusting but nothing here had to do with zap. Braindead take.
@@iXyillo dude just called a guy who destroyed almost everybody last split the worst pro😂😂
Not worth watching, bunch of nothing
thank you for saving me time
Then why did you watch. 🤡
what a useless comment
@@toasty00000 not necessarily useless
zero is a clown
This is the proof that Hal was 50% of the team, raven almost 30%, and sadly, reps and evan where the rest, and no, this is not hate to TSM or something like that, it's reality, like or not they need to re think the entire comp and for the love of god, evan or reps need to grab their 🥚🥚 and take the leadership or look for someone else to do it