Learning To Land With A Crosswind| PA28
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Landing a plane is hard enough, add a crosswind into the mix and it becomes even harder! But it is a skill that every pilot needs to master! Today it's Gareth's turn to practice in a crosswind!
Enjoy the flight!
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I love how you not get angry when he makes mistakes! That makes me feel so good, not being negative, just being positive. And learn with a positive mood! Thank you :-D and i love the humor and jokes!
CaptainJelte Learning to fly is all about making mistakes and learning! If you don't let them make mistakes they will never make it to be a great Pilot! Glad you enjoyed it!
1:20 That is actually the chem-trail nipple. It covertly releases harmful mind control chemicals into the atmosphere.
lol... It's the baggage door stud. The strap on the door latches over the stud to hold it open.
Lemon Party I prefer the first answer hahaha.. Correct!
LewDix Aviation
I think that plane is only rated for ONE STUD ... Sorry Lewis, .... but you can be a Hound Dog, if you like ... 😎
I can picture them opening the baggage door and thinking “shit, this thing keeps falling on my head every time I need to reach for something”.... ALSO (plus) some covers have a button to be secured on the “nipple”
I like how you explained what he was doing to help him understand why the wobbling was happening. As a ppl student, I appreciate the relaxed, no judgment commentary style that helped him improve. Nice video!
I've commented before how much I enjoy the relaxed humor, but it was the more serious quality landing instruction in this one that deserves kudos!
Midlife Flight Thank you! I do my best to keep it light even when the instructing kicks in.
I wish you were my cfi, the dancing to check trim is much better than my cfi yelling at me to fix my trim 😢
Haha.. It’s not real flight training unless you dance at least once
My FIRST TOL lesson featured a 10kt cross wind. My CFI said " If you land smoothly in this, you can land smoothly in anything"
Yea, the short filed your aiming point is at the grass before the runway and glide over the grass to touch down on the numbers. Took me a bit to air at the grass and not the runway for landings. It worked and I landed right on the numbers.
Love your Channel. You have a great way of calming your students.
Here is a thought for x wind landing. Neals super pointer. "Point your nose with your toes"
The dip the wing first follow with rudder technique seemed to add an extra step or two to the process.
Letting the plane be your wind sock the nose will be crabbed to one side or the other. Now, simply point your nose with your toes to bring it to the center line. An almost natural response will be to keep the plane from actually turning using opposite aileron. You can work this at altitude and bring it to the landing process after it is practiced a bit.
So the quick memory statement is. "Point your nose with your toes opposite aileron to keep from turning"
All the best Neal CFI Punta Gorda Fla
I flew 36 hours at Casper, Wyoming but that was 22 years ago. Been back in Liverpool since 2001 and only started flying again last month. Done 15 hours already and like Gareth, all my general aviation is spot on. Over in the US, it took me ages to get my landings right but that's because my instructor used to say "left rudder" so I'd do that but what he meant was right rudder. Ironically, my night-time landings were perfect but over there, we used to land the Cessna 172 on Flaps 2. Here, I'm having the same issue but I keep forgetting that the PA-28 on finals is on Flaps 3 so the controls are more sensitive and one little movement on the Yoke or Throttle results in large deflections. I've now got that correct - but my nose still isn't lined up with the runway after round-out. I'm getting there though. I had my medical on Friday and passed that (but more or less everyone can pass that) and I have 15 hours so far so I hope to aim for my first solo in the next few weeks - provided I can nail the landings.
Im currently struggling with the bottom 20ft of crosswind landings myself, and after watching every video on YT I could find, I think my CFI and I have figured it out - it has to do with losing rudder/aileron coordination during the roundout.
I have a tendency (and every one of these students does too) of leveling the wings during the roundout, because of a fear of hitting a wing on the runway (and the natural desire to land wings level). So when I level the wings, I'm not simultaneously reducing rudder pressure, so my nose swings in those last 10-20 ft, just like Gareth. So my CFI and I are going to focus on 1 - keeping some bank all the way through the roundout and flare, to land on one wheel, and 2 - if/when the bank is reduced, keeping the rudder coordinated to prevent the swing.
Cross winds are really easy. There is the crosswind slip on final or the crosswind decrab on final. The latter is the best technique. You fly the crosswind no crab final. You see the angular difference between the runway and landing wind. You kick in the rudder to align and put in aileron to counter the drift. It’s worked for me. It’s more impressive when you do it at 40 knot crosswind in a Gulfstream jet. It works for every aircraft. Just need to practice at the limits with a CFII.
that “needle” is used as a stander for the back door. When you open it, it opens from down to up and you need something to fix it in open position. A belt is fitted in the inside part of the door and it can be attached to that needle.
Thanks for the wonderful video my friend. This is the relationship we want between student pilot and cfi and the cockpit environment feels so relaxing, I’m motivated by watching you guys. Let more videos come:)
I'm not blowing smoke where the sun don't shine but if ever I was to learn to fly I'd want an instructor with an attitude/style like yours. Great vid, keep 'em coming
Airlite X wow blow as much smoke as you want because that means a lot! Thanks a lot!
Gives me incredible confidence to know where Gareth is now, landing beautifully.... he was once where I am now. Thanks for sharing.
You ought to be one of the nicest instructors out there
Thanks mate
Thanks for the landing tips here. Having the same issues on my recent landings with over-powering rudder control inputs. Reassuring to see that I'm not the only one and that it just takes a bit more finesse. Great work!
Landings are something you’ll always be working on, no matter how experienced you are! You’ll get there!
The nipple is an air tag. But you can tell newbs the call sign is 1 Delta 10 Tango and that’s where they have to blow to fill the ballast tanks.
snap transition was beautiful. Not only are your flight instructing skills on point, so are your videography skills!!
Nice one. I like the way you get them to relax. 99% of my shit landings were from overthinking it, and now I’ve got them nailed I honestly couldn’t tell you what I’m doing differently.
It's the little clip that grabs the leather strap to hold the baggage door open.
My instructor says use the rudder to straighten you out and enough aileron to keep you centered.
Two different techniques that work just fine for different pilots in different planes.
I've been struggling with crosswind landings and keeping myself parallel in the circuit. It kinda clicked in this video how to properly slip. My CFI told me how to do it. She showed me how to do it. She had me on the controls with her while she did it. But for some reason watching this had it sink in exactly what to do and what to look for. I have zero idea why.
It’s the baggage door catch for the leather strap to snap into to hold it in the open position.
I'm loving your teaching style, keep up the great work.
Aveling lovers thank you! Glad you enjoy it
thats the best I have seen for a long time, you guys are so funny to watch how you interact, been to that place a million times and my X-wind landings improve veryyyyy slowlyyyy but, with an instructor like you it would be a pleasure to nail a few, thx for sharing, if I was near I would log some hours
Dude, you fly an X-Wing?
Very good instructor
Interesting video! I was just practicing my crosswind landings today, and I definitely got some pointers watching this, thx!
Really enjoying your videos and teaching style. Keep it up!
Chris Lacey thanks Chris, I'm glad you enjoy it!
Glad you are making these videos. My wife and I met you in Orlando a year ago April. Watching these videos bums me out I couldn't learn there. Maybe if you are still there I can take my Instrument rating there.
The Gentleman Flyer hey man! I think I remember you wanted a shirt from that flight school. Did you ever get one? I’m not there anymore, I do everything independently now.
Well my wife is from South Africa and I’m from Texas. We were checking out flight schools and you showed us around. I’m in Ogden doing my private, they have a loan program with SkyWest. Anyway, I just remember we got there late in the afternoon and you showed us around. Your videos are great man! Your banter with Garett is hilarious but informative.
LewDix Aviation who knows. Maybe I will get down that way after my private.
6:59 you won't regret this scene
It’s the clasp for the baggage door.
I wish I had money for this, I'm terrified of flying, but I feel this would help me to understand.
mikdre Getting yourself in control of an aircraft would help tremendously
LewDix Aviation I was a hazmat class a driver, I mastered that I could master this.
Well done Gaz!
Just amazing videos!
Thanks mate
Wow! On the second landing I realized how hard landing can be. I have zero hours and now I am worried.
Don't be worried. They are the most difficult part of what we do, but once you have an understanding of what you are looking for and what to do, it becomes easier and just about fine tuning. You'll be fine tuning landings throughout your whole career. Today I tried to show a landing to this very same student and it wasn't as I wanted it to be. It happens!
it is a nipple.... but it's to put the cargo door strap on to hold it open. I know it's an old vid... but thought I would just throw that out there.
another great video, would love to meet up with you one of these times im in kissimmee such a great dude and pilot you are!!
Aviation401 Thanks a lot! Yea would be great to meet up! Let me know when you come down and if I'm working would be great to see you
thank you!!
4 Reds on the PAPI!
That thing at 1:30 is like a button, an aircraft cover will clip onto it as well as being secured by four straps under the plane.
Edit: it will also hold the baggage door open.
Really? I fly one of these and I was always wondering what that was.
whoa this video is old, but that is baggage door holder :)
where you hang the baggage door
that is correct!
It seems nobody is actually answering your question about the "nipple" there on the back right of the Piper Cherokee. It confused me a long time as well. If your flight school has not ripped out the strap on the inside of the baggage door, thats where the strap straps engages and latches to the top of the plane to hold the baggage door open and prevents it from just flopping down.
is that the stud you fix the strap on the cargo door to, to hold the door up? or is it the ariel for the emergency locator beacon? bit hard to tell without seeing more of the plane, was a bit of a tight angle
Hey Lew, I was always taught to kick put the crab, you seem to like the slip down final. Is that true, and if so why do you prefer that? Thanks, love the videos!
Yea I prefer the slip method as I find it to be more stable. Kicking the rudder last minute can cause some instability just before touchdown. I teach both ways and let students pick which they prefer.
@@LewDixAviation I've honestly never tried the slip method, and I've been flying for 12 years! :)
You make me want to instruct
Good video as always Lewis! :D
13randomgamer Cheers mate!
Another fun and educational video Lewis. I would be curious to know if he was full idle or landing with a smidge of power after round out. Could be cutting the power too high in ground effect.
Really enjoyed this one. BTW, I loved how you nailed the short field. When I heard 60, I was like yes man, Lewis got this!
VoteJaySchwartz hahaha thanks Jay! I enjoyed editing this video.. But in answer to your query, there have been times where he's left the power on a bit but we've knocked that out of him and I believe all his landings were idle. The winds on this day were annoying haha
Isn't that the door attach point? Some kind of cable that holds the door open and attaches to that point?
No wander the tire blew out after my soft landing and taxi. They take a beating.
i know this video is 5 years old but that 'nipple' is to hold the cargo door open with the strap.
It is!
the hook for the baggage door strap ? Love the videos
Way I thought of it, was to apply rudder to get the plane lined up with the runway, and then roll to keep going towards the runway. I think our brain works best if we minimize the amount of variables we need to pay attention to. So apply rudder as necessary to line the plane up with the runway and just keep it there... then "play" with the ailerons. Would you agree with this or do you see something wrong with it? Cheers!
Similar process but slightly different way of thinking. I dip the wing into the wind and apply enough rudder to stop the aircraft from turning... As you get closer to the runway vary your inputs as necessary to maintain centreline
@@LewDixAviation interesting. I'll try both ways. Somehow it felt more natural to me to first align the plane with the runway, and then control the trajectory with ailerons, but best to try both. Cheers!
The yoke!
I’m lost at the start lol was that not the pin where the baggage door be held open
Hey, great video as always. Just a thought that just crossed my mind. The controllers on your video are just as famous as you with their golden voices. Maybe a video with them: face to the voice. Their voices are so recognizable after so many videos with them. dale
Oh man...this is exactly where I'm at. Sooooo frustrating to not get these crosswind landings nailed yet, but working hard at it. Could have been me in the left seat here, as mine look exactly the same...I'm sure it'll come with practice...how is this student doing now??
that little nub is for a strap to hold the cargo door open while loading
How old for start to fly it is permitted?
Why don't the big airliners do cross control landings in crosswinds? They always crab until the last moment and then kick in the rudder.
Charles Tait, because it is more comfortable for the passengers that way. Rather than doing a slip on the entire approach with your wings banked all the way in. Plus, less chance of a wingtip striking the ground that way. I personally do a combination of the two when i fly in my piper. I crab for the approach, and slip it in towards the end.
What's the name of the overhead gopro mount, is it adhesive also does it disfigure the ceiling surface at all? I'm looking to use one but don't want to mess up my flight schools plane interior lol btw great vid as always
House 22 It's a sticky mount literally stuck to the ceiling.. It doesn't ruin the surface, but I'm not sure about when you take it off, it might leave a residue, im not sure haha
4:53 hey hey hey....what´s that for moves???? :D
I think it’s where the adf wire would run to the tail from when they used to have a wire outside.
I say its a grounding point for refueling!!!
How much flaps? I fly with 20-25 kts crosswinds at higher speed 10-20 degrees flaps in C172. About 70 kts airspeed.
Hi, want to ask you something. Are you already put rudder in on final? Or when flaring?
On final. There are two techniques, the crab or the slip.. I prefer the slip
LewDix Aviation is there any video where you explains this technique more?
Isnt the nipple the clip that hold the baggage door with the strap?
It is!
@@LewDixAviation 5 years later I had the answer! haha. Im training at ATP in KORL. Waiting to hear you on the comms one day
@@MiguelCompres hahaha Been waiting a while. I moved to ISM. Won’t be flying much out of ORL anymore.
@@LewDixAviation awe damn we’ll good luck out there! Love the content and your passion for aviation and instructing
Hi there, my question: why do you retract the flaps immidiately after impact? Shouldn‘t the after landing items be done only after vacating? BR from Germany.
Hey! When you reduce flaps during rollout lift is reduced and the weight on the wheels is increased which increases braking effectiveness on the main gear. It’s used to shorten stopping distance.
Only take the flaps out on the runway and wait until clear of it to go through the after landing checklist.. hope this helps!
You wouldn't want to mess with flaps on the runway if you have retractable landing gear. For that you want your full attention (or a second dedicated copilot). "Flaps up"...BOOM! Otherwise, what he said.
Is that a Bolton Top that hanging on your wall?? Unsubscribe lol #leeds... I like your easy relaxed approach to instructing. Feel free to come up to Niagara Falls Canada and instruct
Donal McCann Dirty dirty Leeds. All I'll say is 4-1........
Okay, 2 years later...that’s the clip for the baggage door latch 🖕🏼🤔
Dude can I fly with you
Try to land a glider in a 12kt gusting 17kts turbulence under 600feet (approach) with curls off the crop... and with a gliders that has controls stupidly light
AusomeOllie Try landing a helicopter on an oil rig with low ceilings and rain... Oh wait I'm thinking of flight sim
If I can afford the training cost I will be a commercial pilot 😔
At the end of the video the planes door was open?
Yep! It gets hot in Florida!
Grease fitting...
@1:27 FOR HOLDING OPEN THE LUGGAGE DOOR
It’s the baggage door strap nipple to hold the baggage door open. I would have liked to watch more of this as I am a new owner of a P28-235D but your jumping around and constant jerking of the camera is really annoying. If your objective was to look like you are coked up or on speed - you nailed it.
Not coke or speed.. it was LSD.. I’ll do better at putting that across next time 😉
The silly, every comment is a clever quip. does not help. How about serious suggestions instead . .
Your jolting the bastard! Hardly professional! You would make a better comedian than instructor.
Students need to learn to side slip at altitude before trying to learn it just above the runway. On both
landings the students nose attitude was too high and thats what caused the ballooning (over pitching) combined with over controlling and tensing on the controls. Instead of
prating about why not just teach him to relax, ,keep the theatricals and showing off for the bar.
The difference between a commentary instructor and a teaching instructor is that a teaching instructor teaches you how to do it. A commentary instructor just states the obvious.. Tell him how to do it,
not what he is doing!. Take control downwind and then rebrief the student, its difficult to try and fly and listen to instruction at the same time.
Point and Power the approach to the runway. Shoot for the centreline not the runway, concentrate solely on the centreline.
As you roundout wipe off the drift with rudder( so that the a'c is on the centreline or parallel to it) while at the same time winding on opposite aileron to put the into wind wheel on the runway first. The student needs to practice this at altitude first, get the crossing of the controls correct and
THEN you can practice the crosswind landing. KIS- Keep it Simple