I have a difficult enough time driving a big rig in strong crosswinds. What pilots of large aircraft have to do is absolutely mindblowing. My hat is off.
I learned to fly in a Citabria in 1964 (Well, I got my Private Certificate then, I'm still learning after logging 11,000+ hours}. Naturally I learned the side slip method of crosswind correction for landing. I also decided on my own after seeing several botched crosswind landings to always do a wheel landing in gusty crosswind conditions because the slightly higher airspeed required for a wheel landing meant that I could very easily fly out of a dicey situation created by a wind shift close to touchdown. Having learned in a taildragger, I was in demand as soon as I got the 250 hrs. required for a Commercial Certificate to fly Be-18 (C-45) aircraft for a small cargo airline. The airline also flew DC-3s, so while I was a Captain on the Beech, I was an F/O on the DC/3 until I got the 1500 hrs. for the ATP required to be a Captain on the 3s. In the end we had 7 or 8 Be-18s and 7 DC-3s. No two were alike, and none of them had auto pilots. We did have ADFs though, so we could listen to "All Night Music For Truckers" out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Our favorite song being, "Take This Job and Shove It." The airline shut down in 1979, but I did learn how to fly in all kinds of weather including heavy icing over the Grand Canyon, thunderstorms (we didn't have radar) and minimums approaches often to Cat II and occasionally Cat III although those categories didn't exist at the time. Air cargo was just getting big at that time and LAX being on the California coast was, during the summer months, prone to getting a good blanket of coastal stratus which most often came in at 50 to 100 ft AGL. Cat II was being talked about, and Cat III was just a dream. LAX would be shut down at least 3 to 4 nights a week, so the tower always said the the ceiling/vis was 200/2 or something close when it was actually 50 ft. and 4 or 5. It was amazing that there never were any missed approaches by the DC8-62s, 707s and 727s that all arrived between 1:30 and 6 AM every weeknight. One night the ceiling was about 50 ft., but there was a lot of scud underneath, I just held the needles and suddenly there was a nice smooth, squeak, squeak, and I could see misty white lights on either side of me with some blue lights a little further away. Also, at LAX we had the Santa Ana winds in the winter. These were strong winds out of the north that raced down the mountains to the north and often reached 40 to 50 knots. In the Beechs and the DC-3s, the gear is in line with the engines, so we used the side slip method augmented by the use of differential power. The downwind (usually the left) engine was at idle power while we had all of the available rudder in and some extra power on the right engine to give us some additional speed to give the rudder more authority. The various terminals would block the wind somewhat but it would get through the open spaces in between. It was quite a dance, but I never did have to go around. Sometimes I watch the crosswind landing videos on You Tube, and I am appalled at the number of pilots who don't understand rudder. I've seen a lot of jets landing with the rudder flapping back and forth or even applied in the wrong direction. Thank god these are trikes and not taildraggers like we flew. Mentour, I have to say that this video is the best explanation about crosswind landing that I have seen.
That A380 landing looked pretty crazy! The aircraft seemed to handle the stress well though. The A380 designers probably watched that clip with interest!
Every time you say "you are going to love this one," I actually reply to my screen "I love every one of them!" You are the best. Thanks for teaching me along the way of my career
I'm not a pilot but I am fascinated by flying. This is by far the best explanation of crab landings i've ever seen. Technical but not too technical. Bravo.
I used to fly model airplanes, landing with crosswind was my favorite thing to do because it required me to be very focused and I felt like the plane was an extension of my body
Nice video Joe. I taught a lot of new copilots how to manage crosswinds. I believe getting the de-crab sorted out before the flare can be helpful. Once the approach lights cross under the glare-shield de-crab and hold the slip through the flare. No need to worry about pro-verse roll (wing rise from rudder input) and lateral PIO's while trying to flare. Increased aileron will be needed as the jet slows in the flare. Last thought- Delta found that tail-strikes were more common in strong crosswinds. At a given weight and speed a higher AoA may exist due to control surface displacement so watch speed and AoA in strong crosswinds.
Thanks Petter for the explanation! Were in a crosswind landing about ten years ago, my first and only so far. It was a really scary experience seeing the runway from my window seat. After landing I was so impressed that I actually talked to the pilots , and they told me that if it had been a few more knots of wind they wouldnt have been able to land. You guys really deserves cred!
I had to watch this after a crosswind landing into Billund today 😊 Pilot flying did a great job, and I was in the front row, so I could hear the flight-attendants say to each other "they know how to do their job" after touch down. Their eyes got a little wider just prior to landing, and they both did a little subtle clap with their hands afterwards. Another good experience with Ryan air - I really don't understand why they get so much "hate" in the comments. Knowing that Petter is a pilot there, and a line trainer I've become much more confident in them.
Nice video. Just to add my two pences worth. The sideslip approach is not discourage at all. Boeing specifies the limits for sideslip-only approach for Flaps 15, 30, and 40 for aircraft types with and without winglets. You may touchdown in only sideslip up to these crosswind component values (23 knots for flaps 40, 20 knots for flaps 30, 17 knots for flaps 15, no winglets), but for crosswind components greater than those values, if you opt for sideslip approach you must add 'proportionately' a crab angle that is combined with the sideslip, as otherwise the sideslip crosswind limit would be exceeded. In fact, on strong crosswinds up to crosswind limit value with dry runway, Boeing even recommends that you do not land on crab angle alone, but combine some sideslip in order to reduce the upwind movement of the aircraft on the runway after touchdown. Now, if there are gusty winds, you will need to reduce the sideslip crosswind limit values possibly down to zero using judgement, but my point being is that sideslip landings are not discouraged at all on airliners. It can really help you on the 737 as about only 1 degree of bank angle tends to tackle around 5 knots of crosswind.
Interesting view. I think executing a sideslip on an airliner requires a lot of moving parts and creates more potential for an unstable approach. I don't know why one would use sideslip when it's just so much easier (and thus safer) to do a crabbed landing (or to decrab on flare). You don't have nearly as much potential for dipping your wing and thus necessitating a go-around.
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I wouldn't mind more of those technical videos :) Now I'm excited to see what Joe's got up his sleeve today
I really appreciate the difference between flying an airliner and smaller aircraft. I would much rather be in a slip as part as a stabilized approach. If you can't get a good approach, it's time to find another airport. Once again a really good explanation.
Used to go boating on a fast flowing river along a slipway, and I was able to drive the boat straight up on to a trailer by doing something similar. I used to be able to do it in a 1/3 of the time and a lot less hassle. Also once a retired airline pilot did this and watched me, and thought I was a pilot, as I made it look so simple, but a lot of practice. Thanks for podcasts, and keep good work up.
I am not a pilot nor have I taken any lessons, but being one of the laymen passengers that sits behind up on a flight in the pax cabin gives me great confidence knowing and understanding (to some degree) what is going on up there in the cockpit. You explain things so well even in a language which is not your native tongue Well done!!!
Thanks, the best and fastest explanation of the 3 xw-landing scenarios I've heard. I have 90 minutes in the glasgow 737-800NG sim tomorrow and will be requesting the usual "horrific" cross winds we get here and "lashing" rain. You and Capt Joe are top guys for giving your time on this.
When I see the A380 crosswind touchdown, it reminds me of my crosswind landings on my x plane 11 flight sim. I keep swerving. I heeded his advice and will try to correct my mistakes asap.
Captain! You are unbelievable! I wish my high school physics teacher was as detailed as you are in explaining our lessons then! Many thanks. Now cross wind landings make much more sense to me as a frequent traveler.
Hi Mentour, I have been struggling with this challenge for a very long time in Flight Gear but after watching this fantastic video, I have done it successfully with ease. Many thanks to you and Captain Joe for intersting Friday every week.
Loved the video. Techniques are awesome! Understanding the forces on an aircraft is simple, the techniques of dealing with those forces in a controlled way, and why, is truly enlightening. The most comprehensive and practical explanation I have ever seen.
Great video, as always! And yesterday I flew with Ryanair and I visited the cockpit, at the end of the flight, as you told me. It was amazing and both pilots were so kind! Thank you for telling me that that was possible, now I'm in love with the 737 cockpit! :)
I spent a lot of my early engineering career working on Flight Sims, first building them, and later maintaining them (in the days of BOAC/BEA -- my most recent aircraft was BA 737s, before the "glass cockpits"!) I always thought I was quite a fair pilot but since I've been following your podcasts I've realised what a lousy one I was !! I did once fly a plane above 10 feet, and I wasn't too bad with that, but it was only a single-engine Cessna. I did however tell the instructor when we were on final to the runway that he didn't need to use the rudder for me as that was the "standard procedure" when we took a visitor up for a flight in the 747-436 sim to discretely help them to land. -- Ah, memories of 50 years ago :-)
Thank you for this video! My son experienced it first hand last night flying into HNL (Honolulu) where the airport is right on the ocean. The runway was dry, so the touchdown was 'firm' shall we say. Thanks again!
My only fight experience is my approximately 250 hours in a Piper Cherokee. I found the crosswind landing very difficult to learn. I applaud the pros like you who can do this in an airliner!
I enjoyed every minute of it! I have always been fascinated by aviation, and getting my pilot's license back in 1979 was the fulfillment of a dream. I flew when I could afford to, until 1986. With a family to support it just became too much. In the late 1990s, after buying an early version of Flight Sim I took it up again. But I gave it up in the year 2000. Now I am a sim pilot, where I have "flown" airliners, fighters, and corporate jets. I'm glad I had the opportunity to learn to fly. It will always remain an achievement I am proud of. Thanks for replying to my comment. All the best to you! I find your videos very informative!
I enjoyed that video very much. Exactly what I was looking for about the crosswind landing maneuvers. Thank you very much and please continue with the more technical videos :)
Excellent and thorough. That A380 landing looked like they almost lost it, maybe not but they were “behind” in its control until the end. Anyway, good video, thank you.
In common crosswind I'm landing the way you explain it in the video. Do the approach in crab angel and kick the ruder in the last moment to allign the aircraft. In hard crosswind-conditions I use the slip during the whole approach and flair, keeping the windward wing down by the aileron all the approach and keeping the centerline alligned by the ruder. Even I flair in this configuration and touch down with windward main undercarriage at first. But of course, my aircraft is much smaller than yours, I'm only flying 600kg MTOM, not 60 tons.
Wonderful explanation. I always knew a crosswind landing was much more difficult for all the things (I figured) the pilots had to do in those final moments. Now I know exactly what it is they are doing at the front.
If I were going to reach the runway surface slightly left or right of the centerline, I would do it to the downwind side tracking at a very small angle toward the centerline. That would actually reduce the crosswind component during the flare and touchdown. Tracking slightly upwind of the centerline and allowing the crosswind to push you toward the centerline would increase the crosswind component and the sideload on the gear.
Side slip can be used to decrease speed or to descend at a bigger angle than normal. This was done by an Australian pilot on an Airbus that multiple times fell to fast, to reduce the time in the critical altitude.
I'm no pilot or working in the airline industry. But these videos are very interesting. If I were young enough I just might reconsider a career switch... I even downloaded your app! Nicely done! Thanks for explaining airplane magic.
Again, quite interesting. I always thought you airline types used the crab because of the passengers, to avoid the sometimes heavy use of ailerons that could scare some people. The biggest plane I've flown was the F-111, landing wingspan 63 feet, length 73 feet and used cross-control exclusively. In fact, as soon as I turned final I lined up on the runway and held center-line all the way to touchdown. Some of the fighters we flew had tender gear and we had to keep side-loads off for fear of collapsing the gear. That wasn't the case with the 111, but some of the other planes were tender, so that was the method of flight instruction from day 1. By the way, I just subscribed.
The 380 landing sure looks dramatic as seen in the video, but the long telephoto lens has caused compression in the scene so that everything looks like it happens quicker and over a much shorter distance. We do not see these events with our own eyes the way a camera lens does. That was a very gusty day and the 380 is one hell of a big target. I thought the guy did well to get it down and then bring the plane back into alignment, but I expect there were a few oohs and ahs in the passenger seats.
In small planes, especially if there are trees and/or buildings near the runway, the crosswind seems to decrease near the ground, requiring a decreased crab angle (or side slip). Just one more fun factor in crosswind landings!
I flew a cessna 182 while I lived in the USA and know the crosswind landings too well. I love watching your videos, it teaches us so much. I noticed you had Martins (cargospotter) video in yours. He lives near where I live and goes to the airport Düsseldorf where I fly out of. He sure takes some great videos. It is hard to belive that a big plane like the A380 is so affected by wind. Maybe you ought to make a video on how people should behave on a flight. Thanks for your wonderful videos and your perfect expanations.
Well done explanations! No mention of keeping aileron into the wind during rollout as the upwind wing will lift and reduce braking on that gear as well as making the aircraft unstable-kind of like tipping a tricycle in a fast turn.
Agree with u Peter. It has to do with your multi concentration task,just a a drummer does. Both hands and feet cooperate. Some people just have very easy to adept such a multi concentration task
Very nicely explained, Mentour Pilot. The more technical details, the merrier for me. Please keep it up. I suggested this topic in your latest Q&A - sorry about that, I didn't know that you had this last November. Thanks!
That’s the Theory Anyway. Eh eh eh. 20 Plus Go Arounds. I wonder how many First Officers got a shot at Heathrow 2/9/20? Extreme Flex in the Wings. What an Amazing Day! You Can Definitely tell the really talented pilots. Some getting pushed around all the way down & they still drop it in Nice & Easy! Amazing! It was Beautiful to watch. Thnx Commander! CJ
Thoroughly enjoy your channel and your discussions on various manoeuvres a plane can do conditions for landing. I love flying in the biggest jets lucky I am not one of those persons that is scared of heights and flying in a plane. We have a family member who became a pilot at a young age. Obviously loves his job I have never experienced any problems flying in a plane. Once when we landed we could tell it was a hard landing. Perth airport in Western Australia is one of the most difficult to land because of cross winds. Apparently it is well known for that but nothing to be concerned. Longest flight for me was from Perth to Athens,. Then Athens to Budapest, from there straight to New York Most enjoyable travel I have ever experienced. I went on my own. Then same return journey. All landings takeoffs excellent. I have the greatest respect for commercial pilots. Greeting from Perth Western Australia ✈️✈️✈️😘😘😘🙋🙋
Great Video, makes a lot of sense to me! I recently got to do a crosswind landing myself in my glider training and the crab angle did feel really weird at first but it just keeps you steady towards the runway
From general aviators view, it's not easy to learn coordination, if you are the nervous student in a real aircraft. It will help, if you train the movements necessary at home on the sofa.
Very well explained. I'm still in flight training for my PPL-A, and I can totally relate to those cadets forgetting one of the control inputs during crosswind landings. As I train on a C172 we always do the side slip. And I also once almost (!) forgot to flare, and once I froze on the rudder as I was so focussing on Ailerons and elevators. It is quite difficult to get your mind around it ... I haven't mastered it yet.
I (build and) fly RC planes and I always put rudders toward the runway and ailerons towards the wind, that´s how I land the model in crosswinds. Keep in mind that rc planes are pretty light even for moderate winds.
I enjoyed this video very much. I have always wondered how a pilot makes those final adjustments to "de-crab", flare, and touchdown. Thanks for sharing.
Many moons ago, I flew in a little 19-seater from SUX to DTW on Northwest with a stop in MSP. It was windy. It was below freezing. It had been snowing at MSP. We came in crab style and when we hit the runway, the front end went hard to the right and it felt like the rear end of the plane was going to slide around like a car on an icy street. It was interesting indeed. It didn't really bother me but I noticed the lady a couple rows ahead of me visibly shaking as we taxied to the terminal.
No one has explained this topic better than you Mentour! Fantastic video my friend!!! Keep it up!!!
+Captain Joe Thanks Joe! That’s great coming from you!
Two great pilots meeting! That's fantastic!
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Two legends enlightening laymen, without any egos. It is so inspirational. Proud of you both. Love from India
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Never had anyone explain the crosswind technique to me better
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
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I have a difficult enough time driving a big rig in strong crosswinds. What pilots of large aircraft have to do is absolutely mindblowing. My hat is off.
Some topics are difficult for me to get the first time around but you make it stick the first time with your explanations! Thank you!
I learned to fly in a Citabria in 1964 (Well, I got my Private Certificate then, I'm still learning after logging 11,000+ hours}. Naturally I learned the side slip method of crosswind correction for landing. I also decided on my own after seeing several botched crosswind landings to always do a wheel landing in gusty crosswind conditions because the slightly higher airspeed required for a wheel landing meant that I could very easily fly out of a dicey situation created by a wind shift close to touchdown. Having learned in a taildragger, I was in demand as soon as I got the 250 hrs. required for a Commercial Certificate to fly Be-18 (C-45) aircraft for a small cargo airline. The airline also flew DC-3s, so while I was a Captain on the Beech, I was an F/O on the DC/3 until I got the 1500 hrs. for the ATP required to be a Captain on the 3s. In the end we had 7 or 8 Be-18s and 7 DC-3s. No two were alike, and none of them had auto pilots. We did have ADFs though, so we could listen to "All Night Music For Truckers" out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Our favorite song being, "Take This Job and Shove It." The airline shut down in 1979, but I did learn how to fly in all kinds of weather including heavy icing over the Grand Canyon, thunderstorms (we didn't have radar) and minimums approaches often to Cat II and occasionally Cat III although those categories didn't exist at the time. Air cargo was just getting big at that time and LAX being on the California coast was, during the summer months, prone to getting a good blanket of coastal stratus which most often came in at 50 to 100 ft AGL. Cat II was being talked about, and Cat III was just a dream. LAX would be shut down at least 3 to 4 nights a week, so the tower always said the the ceiling/vis was 200/2 or something close when it was actually 50 ft. and 4 or 5. It was amazing that there never were any missed approaches by the DC8-62s, 707s and 727s that all arrived between 1:30 and 6 AM every weeknight. One night the ceiling was about 50 ft., but there was a lot of scud underneath, I just held the needles and suddenly there was a nice smooth, squeak, squeak, and I could see misty white lights on either side of me with some blue lights a little further away. Also, at LAX we had the Santa Ana winds in the winter. These were strong winds out of the north that raced down the mountains to the north and often reached 40 to 50 knots. In the Beechs and the DC-3s, the gear is in line with the engines, so we used the side slip method augmented by the use of differential power. The downwind (usually the left) engine was at idle power while we had all of the available rudder in and some extra power on the right engine to give us some additional speed to give the rudder more authority. The various terminals would block the wind somewhat but it would get through the open spaces in between. It was quite a dance, but I never did have to go around. Sometimes I watch the crosswind landing videos on You Tube, and I am appalled at the number of pilots who don't understand rudder. I've seen a lot of jets landing with the rudder flapping back and forth or even applied in the wrong direction. Thank god these are trikes and not taildraggers like we flew. Mentour, I have to say that this video is the best explanation about crosswind landing that I have seen.
That A380 landing looked pretty crazy! The aircraft seemed to handle the stress well though. The A380 designers probably watched that clip with interest!
The A380 was released in 2007.
Every time you say "you are going to love this one," I actually reply to my screen "I love every one of them!" You are the best. Thanks for teaching me along the way of my career
+Ramiro lasso Thank you for your kind words!
I'm not a pilot but I am fascinated by flying. This is by far the best explanation of crab landings i've ever seen. Technical but not too technical. Bravo.
Brilliant video. As a nervous flyer your videos really help me understand how safe flying really is!
I used to fly model airplanes, landing with crosswind was my favorite thing to do because it required me to be very focused and I felt like the plane was an extension of my body
Nice video Joe. I taught a lot of new copilots how to manage crosswinds. I believe getting the de-crab sorted out before the flare can be helpful. Once the approach lights cross under the glare-shield de-crab and hold the slip through the flare. No need to worry about pro-verse roll (wing rise from rudder input) and lateral PIO's while trying to flare. Increased aileron will be needed as the jet slows in the flare. Last thought- Delta found that tail-strikes were more common in strong crosswinds. At a given weight and speed a higher AoA may exist due to control surface displacement so watch speed and AoA in strong crosswinds.
Thanks Petter for the explanation! Were in a crosswind landing about ten years ago, my first and only so far. It was a really scary experience seeing the runway from my window seat. After landing I was so impressed that I actually talked to the pilots , and they told me that if it had been a few more knots of wind they wouldnt have been able to land. You guys really deserves cred!
I had to watch this after a crosswind landing into Billund today 😊
Pilot flying did a great job, and I was in the front row, so I could hear the flight-attendants say to each other "they know how to do their job" after touch down. Their eyes got a little wider just prior to landing, and they both did a little subtle clap with their hands afterwards.
Another good experience with Ryan air - I really don't understand why they get so much "hate" in the comments. Knowing that Petter is a pilot there, and a line trainer I've become much more confident in them.
Nice video. Just to add my two pences worth. The sideslip approach is not discourage at all. Boeing specifies the limits for sideslip-only approach for Flaps 15, 30, and 40 for aircraft types with and without winglets. You may touchdown in only sideslip up to these crosswind component values (23 knots for flaps 40, 20 knots for flaps 30, 17 knots for flaps 15, no winglets), but for crosswind components greater than those values, if you opt for sideslip approach you must add 'proportionately' a crab angle that is combined with the sideslip, as otherwise the sideslip crosswind limit would be exceeded. In fact, on strong crosswinds up to crosswind limit value with dry runway, Boeing even recommends that you do not land on crab angle alone, but combine some sideslip in order to reduce the upwind movement of the aircraft on the runway after touchdown. Now, if there are gusty winds, you will need to reduce the sideslip crosswind limit values possibly down to zero using judgement, but my point being is that sideslip landings are not discouraged at all on airliners. It can really help you on the 737 as about only 1 degree of bank angle tends to tackle around 5 knots of crosswind.
Interesting view. I think executing a sideslip on an airliner requires a lot of moving parts and creates more potential for an unstable approach. I don't know why one would use sideslip when it's just so much easier (and thus safer) to do a crabbed landing (or to decrab on flare). You don't have nearly as much potential for dipping your wing and thus necessitating a go-around.
I wouldn't mind more of those technical videos :)
Now I'm excited to see what Joe's got up his sleeve today
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I really appreciate the difference between flying an airliner and smaller aircraft. I would much rather be in a slip as part as a stabilized approach. If you can't get a good approach, it's time to find another airport. Once again a really good explanation.
Used to go boating on a fast flowing river along a slipway, and I was able to drive the boat straight up on to a trailer by doing something similar. I used to be able to do it in a 1/3 of the time and a lot less hassle. Also once a retired airline pilot did this and watched me, and thought I was a pilot, as I made it look so simple, but a lot of practice. Thanks for podcasts, and keep good work up.
+Les Chase Cool! Thank you.
I am not a pilot nor have I taken any lessons, but being one of the laymen passengers that sits behind up on a flight in the pax cabin gives me great confidence knowing and understanding (to some degree) what is going on up there in the cockpit. You explain things so well even in a language which is not your native tongue Well done!!!
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Thanks, the best and fastest explanation of the 3 xw-landing scenarios I've heard. I have 90 minutes in the glasgow 737-800NG sim tomorrow and will be requesting the usual "horrific" cross winds we get here and "lashing" rain. You and Capt Joe are top guys for giving your time on this.
The way you teach makes everything so simple to understand.
Great to hear!
I am in high school my dream is to become a pilot I love to watch Captan Joe's and Mentour pilot's videos you guys are awesome!!!
When I see the A380 crosswind touchdown, it reminds me of my crosswind landings on my x plane 11 flight sim. I keep swerving. I heeded his advice and will try to correct my mistakes asap.
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You are unbelievable! I wish my high school physics teacher was as detailed as you are in explaining our lessons then!
Many thanks. Now cross wind landings make much more sense to me as a frequent traveler.
Best explanation I’ve ever heard on UA-cam
Hi Mentour, I have been struggling with this challenge for a very long time in Flight Gear but after watching this fantastic video, I have done it successfully with ease. Many thanks to you and Captain Joe for intersting Friday every week.
+Tuan Kiet Tran Great to hear that it helped! Fly safe my friend!
Loved the video. Techniques are awesome! Understanding the forces on an aircraft is simple, the techniques of dealing with those forces in a controlled way, and why, is truly enlightening. The most comprehensive and practical explanation I have ever seen.
Great video. When I was doing my private pilot training I liked cross wind landings as it a bit of a challenge to get it perfectly right.
Quality Lessons, containing the juice of decades of art and experience of flying jetliner!
Great video, as always! And yesterday I flew with Ryanair and I visited the cockpit, at the end of the flight, as you told me. It was amazing and both pilots were so kind! Thank you for telling me that that was possible, now I'm in love with the 737 cockpit! :)
+Fernando Alonso Great to hear!
Oh... What's the magic word to be granted a visit to the cockpit?
I'm nota pilot(just an aviation "enthusiast") butI find these videos fascinating! Thanks
Crab landing was such a good term for explanation.
I spent a lot of my early engineering career working on Flight Sims, first building them, and later maintaining them (in the days of BOAC/BEA -- my most recent aircraft was BA 737s, before the "glass cockpits"!) I always thought I was quite a fair pilot but since I've been following your podcasts I've realised what a lousy one I was !!
I did once fly a plane above 10 feet, and I wasn't too bad with that, but it was only a single-engine Cessna. I did however tell the instructor when we were on final to the runway that he didn't need to use the rudder for me as that was the "standard procedure" when we took a visitor up for a flight in the 747-436 sim to discretely help them to land. -- Ah, memories of 50 years ago :-)
what I like is there is no B.S. just straight to the point.
Thank you for this video! My son experienced it first hand last night flying into HNL (Honolulu) where the airport is right on the ocean. The runway was dry, so the touchdown was 'firm' shall we say. Thanks again!
My only fight experience is my approximately 250 hours in a Piper Cherokee. I found the crosswind landing very difficult to learn. I applaud the pros like you who can do this in an airliner!
+nidurnevets This is when it’s FUN to fly!
I enjoyed every minute of it! I have always been fascinated by aviation, and getting my pilot's license back in 1979 was the fulfillment of a dream. I flew when I could afford to, until 1986. With a family to support it just became too much. In the late 1990s, after buying an early version of Flight Sim I took it up again. But I gave it up in the year 2000. Now I am a sim pilot, where I have "flown" airliners, fighters, and corporate jets. I'm glad I had the opportunity to learn to fly. It will always remain an achievement I am proud of. Thanks for replying to my comment. All the best to you! I find your videos very informative!
+Mentour I liked very much the technical overlook onto this topic.The cockpit background always add some incentive to learning too.Thank you
+Marcio Torres Great to hear that you liked it!
These "more techie" sessions are awesome!
+Николай Кольченко Cool! Great to hear that you like it!
Awesome as always! Expecting more technical videos, they’re the best. From the office hopefully as well
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This is probably your best video i've seen. Superb
I enjoyed that video very much. Exactly what I was looking for about the crosswind landing maneuvers. Thank you very much and please continue with the more technical videos :)
+Fluotin Great to hear! Feel free to share it with your friends!
You are a real asset to your airline, the flying public, and us pilot wanna bees. Love the detail...keep up the good work!!!
Great lesson. Who would have thought that a slippery runway could be advantageous.
Excellent and thorough. That A380 landing looked like they almost lost it, maybe not but they were “behind” in its control until the end. Anyway, good video, thank you.
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it!
No one can explain it better than you mentor👮♂️👮♂️...thanks a lot my friend..👍👍👌👌
Captain this is so useful for me to land in a crosswind
I often refer your videos to inexperienced pilots.... thanks and keep em’ coming!
In common crosswind I'm landing the way you explain it in the video. Do the approach in crab angel and kick the ruder in the last moment to allign the aircraft. In hard crosswind-conditions I use the slip during the whole approach and flair, keeping the windward wing down by the aileron all the approach and keeping the centerline alligned by the ruder. Even I flair in this configuration and touch down with windward main undercarriage at first.
But of course, my aircraft is much smaller than yours, I'm only flying 600kg MTOM, not 60 tons.
Watching your videos just make me want to get my pilot's license even more. Not quite for commercial aircraft, but i would really like to fly!!!
Wonderful explanation Petter. Especially for the pilots that are coming from general aviation. Thank you very much.
Wonderful explanation. I always knew a crosswind landing was much more difficult for all the things (I figured) the pilots had to do in those final moments. Now I know exactly what it is they are doing at the front.
If I were going to reach the runway surface slightly left or right of the centerline, I would do it to the downwind side tracking at a very small angle toward the centerline. That would actually reduce the crosswind component during the flare and touchdown. Tracking slightly upwind of the centerline and allowing the crosswind to push you toward the centerline would increase the crosswind component and the sideload on the gear.
Really enjoy these more technical videos. Thanks, Mentour!
+Al Morkans Thanks!
i've been a victim of pilots that don't know how to cross-control a liner, and crab in and snap the tail. bad. a very good channel, with good info!
Mentour, this was an AMAZING explanation of crosswind components. Great job!
Side slip can be used to decrease speed or to descend at a bigger angle than normal. This was done by an Australian pilot on an Airbus that multiple times fell to fast, to reduce the time in the critical altitude.
An awesome explanation of crosswind landings in an airliner. I really like the format of this video, please do more in the cockpit like this.
+Sethorion99 I will do my best. Thank you!
Thank you!
I'm no pilot or working in the airline industry. But these videos are very interesting. If I were young enough I just might reconsider a career switch... I even downloaded your app! Nicely done!
Thanks for explaining airplane magic.
Excellent job young man with you explanation.
Again, quite interesting. I always thought you airline types used the crab because of the passengers, to avoid the sometimes heavy use of ailerons that could scare some people. The biggest plane I've flown was the F-111, landing wingspan 63 feet, length 73 feet and used cross-control exclusively. In fact, as soon as I turned final I lined up on the runway and held center-line all the way to touchdown. Some of the fighters we flew had tender gear and we had to keep side-loads off for fear of collapsing the gear. That wasn't the case with the 111, but some of the other planes were tender, so that was the method of flight instruction from day 1. By the way, I just subscribed.
I love the technical videos even though I am not in aviation. Keep them coming. Cheers, Russ
+Russell Cannon Thanks Russ! I will keep that in mind.
Feel free to share the video and help the channel.
Have a great night!
The 380 landing sure looks dramatic as seen in the video, but the long telephoto lens has caused compression in the scene so that everything looks like it happens quicker and over a much shorter distance. We do not see these events with our own eyes the way a camera lens does. That was a very gusty day and the 380 is one hell of a big target. I thought the guy did well to get it down and then bring the plane back into alignment, but I expect there were a few oohs and ahs in the passenger seats.
In small planes, especially if there are trees and/or buildings near the runway, the crosswind seems to decrease near the ground, requiring a decreased crab angle (or side slip). Just one more fun factor in crosswind landings!
Tku Captain for your explaination cross wind landing.
I flew a cessna 182 while I lived in the USA and know the crosswind landings too well. I love watching your videos, it teaches us so much. I noticed you had Martins (cargospotter) video in yours. He lives near where I live and goes to the airport Düsseldorf where I fly out of. He sure takes some great videos. It is hard to belive that a big plane like the A380 is so affected by wind. Maybe you ought to make a video on how people should behave on a flight. Thanks for your wonderful videos and your perfect expanations.
Great! Say hello to him if you see him!
Well done explanations! No mention of keeping aileron into the wind during rollout as the upwind wing will lift and reduce braking on that gear as well as making the aircraft unstable-kind of like tipping a tricycle in a fast turn.
Great video! Love the explanation with a view in the cockpit :)
Agree with u Peter. It has to do with your multi concentration task,just a a drummer does. Both hands and feet cooperate. Some people just have very easy to adept such a multi concentration task
Yes, anyone can learn it though with enough training and good instruction.
Your videos explain everything the best! Thank God I found this channel
1. crab and then straight but a lil bit offset
2. maintain crab (especially when slippery)
3. bank into the wind
I like the explanation 👌🏼 complex phenomenon in layman's language
Very nicely explained, Mentour Pilot. The more technical details, the merrier for me. Please keep it up. I suggested this topic in your latest Q&A - sorry about that, I didn't know that you had this last November. Thanks!
Love these kind of descriptive videos, thanks
You sir are a master & thank you for all this work you are doing.
+Mohammed Al Ameri Thank you!!
very good!!! Got it!!!! Just need to practice it on my 73 Flight Sim now!!!!!.......thanks.
Guys, don’t waste your time trying to understand it in FCTM. This guy explained it in 2 minutes! Love u mate
Yeah right good advice there, who needs training manuals when you've got youtube
@@athgt6630 that was a specific advice for a specific subject. stick to the manuals is my advice to you
Yes. Airbus A380 went around Heathrow Twice last Sunday on Big Jet TV!!! 2/9/20. Big Storm Ciara. CJ
Excellent video captain. Its. Nice and relaxing seating in 738. Cold and dark cockpit
+SPIROS 737 Yes, it is. :)
Loved your experience and your explanation
That’s the Theory Anyway. Eh eh eh. 20 Plus Go Arounds. I wonder how many First Officers got a shot at Heathrow 2/9/20? Extreme Flex in the Wings. What an Amazing Day! You Can Definitely tell the really talented pilots. Some getting pushed around all the way down & they still drop it in Nice & Easy! Amazing! It was Beautiful to watch. Thnx Commander! CJ
Great video! And yes, the technical videos are the most interesting
Thoroughly enjoy your channel and your discussions on various manoeuvres a plane can do conditions for landing. I love flying in the biggest jets lucky I am not one of those persons that is scared of heights and flying in a plane.
We have a family member who became a pilot at a young age.
Obviously loves his job
I have never experienced any problems flying in a plane. Once when we landed we could tell it was a hard landing.
Perth airport in Western Australia is one of the most difficult to land because of cross winds. Apparently it is well known for that but nothing to be concerned.
Longest flight for me was from Perth to Athens,. Then Athens to Budapest, from there straight to New York
Most enjoyable travel I have ever experienced.
I went on my own.
Then same return journey. All landings takeoffs excellent.
I have the greatest respect for commercial pilots.
Greeting from
Perth Western Australia
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This is a very great explanation, thank you very much Captain! Happy landings from Mexico!
Nice to know that you and Captain Joe are friends.
Great Video, makes a lot of sense to me! I recently got to do a crosswind landing myself in my glider training and the crab angle did feel really weird at first but it just keeps you steady towards the runway
+victory01 Yeah, it makes quite a lot of sense after a while.
Your explications are very clair and precise, thanks you so much
From general aviators view, it's not easy to learn coordination, if you are the nervous student in a real aircraft. It will help, if you train the movements necessary at home on the sofa.
Great video Captain. Thanks for the detailed explanation about landing in cross-winds!!!
+shailendra veerarajapura Great to hear that you liked it!! Feel free to share it with your friends!
Great video! Love these technical videos.
yes very well under stood thank you captain
Very well explained.
I'm still in flight training for my PPL-A, and I can totally relate to those cadets forgetting one of the control inputs during crosswind landings. As I train on a C172 we always do the side slip. And I also once almost (!) forgot to flare, and once I froze on the rudder as I was so focussing on Ailerons and elevators. It is quite difficult to get your mind around it ... I haven't mastered it yet.
I (build and) fly RC planes and I always put rudders toward the runway and ailerons towards the wind, that´s how I land the model in crosswinds. Keep in mind that rc planes are pretty light even for moderate winds.
I really like this technical video, keep them coming!
One of ur best videos.
Thanks, captain!
+Souza Patrick Thank you!
I enjoyed this video very much. I have always wondered how a pilot makes those final adjustments to "de-crab", flare, and touchdown. Thanks for sharing.
Many moons ago, I flew in a little 19-seater from SUX to DTW on Northwest with a stop in MSP.
It was windy. It was below freezing. It had been snowing at MSP. We came in crab style and when we hit the runway, the front end went hard to the right and it felt like the rear end of the plane was going to slide around like a car on an icy street. It was interesting indeed.
It didn't really bother me but I noticed the lady a couple rows ahead of me visibly shaking as we taxied to the terminal.
Try aiming to dock in a sailboat with high winds and a strong running tide, no go round option, good practice for aspiring pilots!