They already did that one a few months ago when deathwing assault came out but that was when the dark angels codex was super weak and the lion was still 350 points iirc
yeah I saw this and cried. His lone op also really dulls any incoming shooting. If you place him behind the knights as well, he essentially cant be shot unless you move into easy charge range of the knights. Lion behind termies and knights is the way to go for sure. It really feels bad to watch someone misplay an army you're passionate about :(
That and the fact he didnt put him into Magnus, The Lion into magnus as well as keeping those intercessors on the objective would've won him the game and most likely killed Magnus. The only thing that could kill him was The Lion, hugely misplayed here but we all make mistakes.
@@TobyHaslam-h4d I agree. When he said "I'm lacking anti-tank" at the beginning I was confused, your lynchpin unit is essentially kitted (almost) perfectly to wipe any given monster (including magnus) off the board for a big points trade. Instead he was kinda just used as an anti-DevWound model for the first half
@@smalls6914 Exactly. He had the Deathwing Knights with anti monster/vehicle 4+, as well as The Lion. The Lion can kills Magnus with his fights first and lone op, you don’t need to keep him way back, he should be the anchor of your forces. The knights can most likely kill any monster or vehicle that the Thousand sons had on the board accept Magnus, so he should’ve used them more to effect.
@@smalls6914 What are you talking about? The Lion does an average of 5 Wounds to Magnus who has 16 wounds (command re-rolls affect this A LOT on both sides) Let's asume Magnus is the Oath target and Magnus has used his -1 damage ability: * Lion hits on 2+ with 8 attacks (Lethal hits) * Lion rolls 1.333 Lethals, 1.333 Misses and 5.3333 regular hits * Lion re-rolls his 1.333 Misses and gets 0.888 Hits and 0.148 Lethals * Lion scores 1.481 Lethals and 6,221 hits * Lion is S12 vs Magnus T11 and wounds on 3+ * Lion rolls 4,147 wounds + the 1,481 Lethals meaning it is a total of 5,628 successful wounds * Magnus has a 4++ and passes 2.814 saves meaning 2.814 wounds go through * Magnus takes a total of 8,442 wounds, he can negate one of the failed saves for a CP and only take 5,442 damage Even if Magnus does not have his -1 damage ability active he still only take 11,256 damage, very far from your "perfect" way to wipe him out Let's do Magnus hitting back for fun Let's asume that the Lion has his 4+++ vs mortals and that Magnus has not Sustained Hits on his melee weapon as that is rather rare to be picked by TS players, and so will only have Dev wounds: * Magnus hits on 2+ with 7 attacks (Devestating Wounds) * Magnus rolls 5,83 hits * Magnus is S16 with +1 to wound vs The Lions T9 and wounds on 2+ * Magnus rolls 0,97 Dev wounds and 3,89 successful wound rolls * The Lion has a 3++ and passes 3,24 saves meaning 0,65 wounds go through * The Lion has a 4+ Feel No Pain against the 2,91 Mortal Wounds caused by the Dev Wounds and passes 1,455 saves meaning he suffers 1,455 Mortal Wounds * The Lion takes 3,4 damage in total
That is probably one of, if not the most flattering compliments of that Magnus. I'd love to repaint one (mostly because I've grown as a painter since I got and painted this one) but this one is still my boi
The Lion and Magnus never even approach each other for a duel and just focusing on the battlefield and the objective is super lore accurate. The final move being just a single Rhino making a desperate breakout that secure the Sons's objective and the two army withdraw without the Primarchs ever facing each other especially. Like a cool head general they are.
watching the lion being held back as well as dice hell was a painful watch but it was a good game none the less. Please keep the dark angles coming, i love 40k in 40 mins. Its the only digestable games of 40k i could watch. The way you guys do them i could watch an in depth 1hr 30 min one too as the editing, narration/explination and quality is so good
Holy Emperor those dice rolls had me thinking that Tak was playing with Lamenters for a hot minute. Great match as always but man i was really hoping to see Lion and Magnus slug it out.
There were definitely some internal mind games between Tak and Mubin. They've played against each other quite a bit and know each others play styles but Mubin is definitely changing things up and being less aggressive and more cagey. Old Mubin would have lost Magnus by turn 2 and there would have been a rampaging Lion in the midst of all those Thousand Sons
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Me seeing the line up of this match : Oh, another one for the streak eh? Me at the end of match: Tears, ugly crying, he did it. By the emperor and sigmar he's found his way!
When i heard Mubin vs Tak i thought "congrats on your victory Tak" but glad his thousand suns finally showed up. No lion magnus showdown was a kick in the rear but great match
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
I LOVE THE EDITING YOU GUYS DO!! I had to join the channel - IMO your close up video editing along with the special effects (specifically in the shooting phase because most of the time on other channels I have no idea who is shooting what) is the best on the internet by a long shot. Keep it up guys - such great work.
Woah what incredible timing. Recently a friend of mine wanted to get me into Warhammer. After reading some of the codex books and some lore I ended up wanting to see Dark Angels. He also told me is going for Thousand Sons. Now I get to see one way a game can play out with both armies
I just started building a Thousand Sons army that I bought from a friend. Had a really nicely-painted Magnus and Mutalith and a bunch of other stuff. Needs a bit more to flesh it out, but, I'm excited to give them a run.
The fact Tak didn't bring any ranged anti-tank and went up a against a list with 2 T9s, a T10, and a T11, He left an 80 point hole in his list, and he just left Lion sitting in his deplyoment zone for wayyy too long (he must've realised he had been wasting him when the first time lion fights he wipes a whole squad solo), oh and he failed a ridiculous amount of charges, he only lost by 1 point.
I really like how you guys deliver these reports. Brief but doesn’t miss a thing. Players are really into it but focus on the game and don’t preach or go into non relevant stuff. This is how to outperform your peers and be the one channels battle reports that I will always watch, have the time to do so and enjoy it every time. Really great!
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
@@DanielMcMillan-nf7rw he's scored worse and done bad desicions. This time he did well. Possibly could've been more aggresive with Manus (imo) and the demon prince and keep the marines in the rhino a little longer but overall he did great.
@@ghmatt14 I appreciate it! Always looking to improve and I have been adjusting my playstyle and trying to find a fine balance. I used to play far too aggressively before and now I feel I may be a bit TOO cagey at times. Though that does tend to leave me with some assets to still do the things needed late game. I think old Mubin probably would have lost Magnus Turn 2/3 and had a Lion rampaging through the rest of his army a turn later
To be honest, because of the indirect only hitting on 4+ I actually shot a lot of Torrent weapons at them unless the models could see them to hit. Then again a LOT of my weapons are torrent in that list
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Thought Mubin was screwed after Taq's massive early lead and leading all game. Such an epic battle but feels for Taq's bazillion snake eyes (Tzeentchan shenanigans I'm sure!!)
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Petition to see Dark Angels VS Death Guard next so we can see the Lion throw down with Mortarion
@@adambartholomew6575 Enduring stubbornness versus stubborn endurance.
I think that game happened recently, might be worth a look
signed.
They already did that one a few months ago when deathwing assault came out but that was when the dark angels codex was super weak and the lion was still 350 points iirc
Oh you mean... Down with the sickness?
Taks dice be like "heres a 4 inch charge back to back LOL get rekt"
Mubins dice be like " 3d6 flamers?? Heres 16 attacks for you kind sir"
Keeping the Lion back that long was a huge mistake. He would've mulched more Rubric units like nobody's business.
yeah I saw this and cried. His lone op also really dulls any incoming shooting. If you place him behind the knights as well, he essentially cant be shot unless you move into easy charge range of the knights. Lion behind termies and knights is the way to go for sure. It really feels bad to watch someone misplay an army you're passionate about :(
That and the fact he didnt put him into Magnus, The Lion into magnus as well as keeping those intercessors on the objective would've won him the game and most likely killed Magnus. The only thing that could kill him was The Lion, hugely misplayed here but we all make mistakes.
@@TobyHaslam-h4d I agree. When he said "I'm lacking anti-tank" at the beginning I was confused, your lynchpin unit is essentially kitted (almost) perfectly to wipe any given monster (including magnus) off the board for a big points trade. Instead he was kinda just used as an anti-DevWound model for the first half
@@smalls6914 Exactly. He had the Deathwing Knights with anti monster/vehicle 4+, as well as The Lion. The Lion can kills Magnus with his fights first and lone op, you don’t need to keep him way back, he should be the anchor of your forces. The knights can most likely kill any monster or vehicle that the Thousand sons had on the board accept Magnus, so he should’ve used them more to effect.
@@smalls6914 What are you talking about? The Lion does an average of 5 Wounds to Magnus who has 16 wounds (command re-rolls affect this A LOT on both sides)
Let's asume Magnus is the Oath target and Magnus has used his -1 damage ability:
* Lion hits on 2+ with 8 attacks (Lethal hits)
* Lion rolls 1.333 Lethals, 1.333 Misses and 5.3333 regular hits
* Lion re-rolls his 1.333 Misses and gets 0.888 Hits and 0.148 Lethals
* Lion scores 1.481 Lethals and 6,221 hits
* Lion is S12 vs Magnus T11 and wounds on 3+
* Lion rolls 4,147 wounds + the 1,481 Lethals meaning it is a total of 5,628 successful wounds
* Magnus has a 4++ and passes 2.814 saves meaning 2.814 wounds go through
* Magnus takes a total of 8,442 wounds, he can negate one of the failed saves for a CP and only take 5,442 damage
Even if Magnus does not have his -1 damage ability active he still only take 11,256 damage, very far from your "perfect" way to wipe him out
Let's do Magnus hitting back for fun
Let's asume that the Lion has his 4+++ vs mortals and that Magnus has not Sustained Hits on his melee weapon as that is rather rare to be picked by TS players, and so will only have Dev wounds:
* Magnus hits on 2+ with 7 attacks (Devestating Wounds)
* Magnus rolls 5,83 hits
* Magnus is S16 with +1 to wound vs The Lions T9 and wounds on 2+
* Magnus rolls 0,97 Dev wounds and 3,89 successful wound rolls
* The Lion has a 3++ and passes 3,24 saves meaning 0,65 wounds go through
* The Lion has a 4+ Feel No Pain against the 2,91 Mortal Wounds caused by the Dev Wounds and passes 1,455 saves meaning he suffers 1,455 Mortal Wounds
* The Lion takes 3,4 damage in total
Not gonna lie, that Magnus thumbnail looks like it could be a rendering of him in a total war game. (It's very pretty!)
That is probably one of, if not the most flattering compliments of that Magnus. I'd love to repaint one (mostly because I've grown as a painter since I got and painted this one) but this one is still my boi
@@MubinTalatiYou deserve it, your thousand sons look amazing!
Not really
The Lion and Magnus never even approach each other for a duel and just focusing on the battlefield and the objective is super lore accurate.
The final move being just a single Rhino making a desperate breakout that secure the Sons's objective and the two army withdraw without the Primarchs ever facing each other especially. Like a cool head general they are.
Magnus had a purpose and it was all according to plan :)
@@PlayOnTabletop Did Mubin write this reply hahaha
@@CrazyCrayfish Tzeentch only knows
watching the lion being held back as well as dice hell was a painful watch but it was a good game none the less. Please keep the dark angles coming, i love 40k in 40 mins. Its the only digestable games of 40k i could watch. The way you guys do them i could watch an in depth 1hr 30 min one too as the editing, narration/explination and quality is so good
Tzeentch: wow i was drunk During this battle
Or not and it was all part of the plan. We will never know.
@@PlayOnTabletoptechnically both could be true, lol
Tbf there's no one Tzeentch loves fucking witg more than the thousand sons
Wait which ones were mine again?
@@henryjones4819😂😂😂
Holy Emperor those dice rolls had me thinking that Tak was playing with Lamenters for a hot minute. Great match as always but man i was really hoping to see Lion and Magnus slug it out.
There were definitely some internal mind games between Tak and Mubin. They've played against each other quite a bit and know each others play styles but Mubin is definitely changing things up and being less aggressive and more cagey. Old Mubin would have lost Magnus by turn 2 and there would have been a rampaging Lion in the midst of all those Thousand Sons
This was the beginning of Mubin's rise to glory!
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
We finally have a tsons win. Took long enough holy moly
That's wtf I'm talking about Muben!!!! You've made T sons players proud today ❤️.
Pretty sure Mubin forgot that the Rhino has guns.
You are right. I don't think he shot the Rhino once...
Also forgot it could Tank Shock.
Bro, I was wondering why he didn't shoot. I started thinking it was terrain
Hell yeah Mubin! As a Sons player I have been following and cheering for you, let's celebrate that W!
Me seeing the line up of this match : Oh, another one for the streak eh?
Me at the end of match: Tears, ugly crying, he did it. By the emperor and sigmar he's found his way!
He did it!
@@PlayOnTabletop HE DID IT!
Loving the Thousand Sons love here lately!
When i heard Mubin vs Tak i thought "congrats on your victory Tak" but glad his thousand suns finally showed up. No lion magnus showdown was a kick in the rear but great match
I think a rematch might be in order and Mubin has been putting in a lot of practice and testing with his Thousand Sons.
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Don't be a dickhead man @@DanielMcMillan-nf7rw
I didnt thought i would live to see muben win a game 😢
He did the thing!
yay, but dude next time do a spoiler thing :)
Used to pray for times like this.
Damnit… why is this comment not way further down…
Sigh, my fault for always going into the comments while watching a vid.
Those Deathwing Knights sure had a lot of contempt to withstand that.
They realllly did
Wow did Tzeentch play their hand here. Incredible work and such a close game!
"I like painting swords" put a smile on my face
Honestly awesome to see not only mubin win a match but also with the thousand sons of all factions.
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
Would love to see Thousand sons against either flame heavy firestorm or sister lists.. Just bring all the flamers!
Make it a true Barn Burner!
Warpflamers are best flamers. Not even Tzeentch can change my mind there
I LOVE THE EDITING YOU GUYS DO!! I had to join the channel - IMO your close up video editing along with the special effects (specifically in the shooting phase because most of the time on other channels I have no idea who is shooting what) is the best on the internet by a long shot. Keep it up guys - such great work.
Thank you so much for the kind words and support!
Woah what incredible timing. Recently a friend of mine wanted to get me into Warhammer. After reading some of the codex books and some lore I ended up wanting to see Dark Angels. He also told me is going for Thousand Sons. Now I get to see one way a game can play out with both armies
Welcome to the hobby and happy wargaming to you and your friend!
@@PlayOnTabletop Thank you! Looking forward to seeing more from you guys as well, love the 40k in 40mins
I just started building a Thousand Sons army that I bought from a friend. Had a really nicely-painted Magnus and Mutalith and a bunch of other stuff. Needs a bit more to flesh it out, but, I'm excited to give them a run.
Gotta love how professional all the players on the channel are. I would totally rage 🤣. Probably why I’m not a pro player.
Mubin, looking at his Rhino: All I need is a miracle, All I need is youuuuu to roll ovah' this terminator! ;p
The fact Tak didn't bring any ranged anti-tank and went up a against a list with 2 T9s, a T10, and a T11, He left an 80 point hole in his list, and he just left Lion sitting in his deplyoment zone for wayyy too long (he must've realised he had been wasting him when the first time lion fights he wipes a whole squad solo), oh and he failed a ridiculous amount of charges, he only lost by 1 point.
I like to call my Watchers in the Dark's Kenny's. Because they're all hooded and always die.
I thought they looked familiar
the urge to repaint all my Watcher with red....
I really like how you guys deliver these reports. Brief but doesn’t miss a thing. Players are really into it but focus on the game and don’t preach or go into non relevant stuff. This is how to outperform your peers and be the one channels battle reports that I will always watch, have the time to do so and enjoy it every time. Really great!
We appreciate the praise and really glad you love the content!
Oof. Those charges.
My last game I failed FOUR charges...by only ONE. And those weren't even all the fails!
The Mubin phase… 😮😮😮
"That was a lot tankier than I thought." 😂😂😂
*SPOILER ALERT!*
so happy to see Mubin finally win 40k. what a great game!
Probably the biggest spoiler in 40k History. Thanks
@@jamesbanks4502 oops, sorry😅
Great win Mubin. Well played Tak. Maybe my Angels will bring home the W another time.
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
A nice close game for a change! Well played by both, unfortunate charges for the DA though!!
"Ya we're just here for war crimes today." May be my new favorite gaming phrase.
Well they are based in Canada 😆
Baby smite was not on my list of things I thought I would hear on a 40k vid today, but hear we are...
At least he didn't break out into song
I use it for every sergeant sorcerer whenever they use their weaker version of smite
Brilliant match! Love the fact that the DA's are performing now. Just need to start making those charges Tak.. ;)
Glad you enjoyed the game!
Great battle! Wish Tak won because those Dark Angels looked amazing!!!
When agents of the imperium comes out you guys should consider an imperial soup army vs a chaos soup army
mmmm soup....
@@PlayOnTabletop does that mean you're open to it?
I don't want an Ironstorm list but no vehicles in a Dark Angels list against a Primarch and 2 Vortex beasts? I knew this was gonna hurt.
Seeing how tough the deathwing knights are makes me want to buy them
wow, applause, Thousand Sons!!! great game
Love seeing my dark angels again but all of those failed charges were painful to watch
Good game; I feel like if the lion had left earlier and Azrael had stayed in the back instead and I think we have a different story.
yeah bizarre plays. Failing the charges was rough, but I don't think that's the bigger problem here.
Fantastic match, great work as always gentlemen
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been loving the new scenarios y’all are coming up with.
I think this is the first game I’ve seen Mubin win. I bet that’s gotta feel good for him. This was one helluva game.
While not his first win it was definitely a well deserved win in a streak of losses!
Mubin: "we're just here for war crimes today"
😂😂😂
i really hope you guys do a Death Guard vs The Thousand sons battle. two natural enemies facing each other would be a epic clash
I don't think we've had that match up in 10th yet....we just might have to
Wow!
This game was so awesome to see and so glad to see Mubin growing as a player :)
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
@@DanielMcMillan-nf7rw he's scored worse and done bad desicions. This time he did well. Possibly could've been more aggresive with Manus (imo) and the demon prince and keep the marines in the rhino a little longer but overall he did great.
@@ghmatt14 I appreciate it! Always looking to improve and I have been adjusting my playstyle and trying to find a fine balance. I used to play far too aggressively before and now I feel I may be a bit TOO cagey at times. Though that does tend to leave me with some assets to still do the things needed late game. I think old Mubin probably would have lost Magnus Turn 2/3 and had a Lion rampaging through the rest of his army a turn later
Love to see Mubin win!
Pleeeeeeease be my boi Space Marine Steve with the Lion 🦁
I bet this will be a great one!
From Tak’s charge rolls, you’d think it was Steve rolling
The amount of indirect hits that looked like Mubin was saying succeeded on anything other than 4+ was insane.
To be honest, because of the indirect only hitting on 4+ I actually shot a lot of Torrent weapons at them unless the models could see them to hit. Then again a LOT of my weapons are torrent in that list
@@MubinTalati using torrent to indirect? thats a paddling, warp flamers cant benefit from the indirect strat/cabal ritual
@johnnyohm4579 true but I never used my warpflamers for that. The infernal masters on the other hand absolutely can
All is dust!
What a game.
Sirs, I need 5 more minutes for a duel between the Lion and Red boy after the game in the middle.
FINALLY! Nicely done Mubin!
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
@@DanielMcMillan-nf7rw😬 I mean… 😂
Vortex beast got stuffed in his locker. Absolutely bullied bro.
That poor Vortex beast, he'll get his revenge!
This is high stakes match Tak vs Mubin
We really should have put something on the line....might have to do that on the rematch
Awesome match guys, pleasure to watch.
Perfect. Love a 1 point game
this was one of my favorite videos you've ever done! what an awesome matchup!
Looking mighty fresh today, that Tak!
Finally mubin yay what a battle,tak u played great too
Well deserved by Mubin. Really like seeing him develop as a player.
This was insane, love it!!
This episode makes me happy. My favorite primarch wins.
Just once i wanna see dark angels do well on the table 😂
Primarchs vs primarchs is always cool, but would love to see the DA facing da green waaagh next. Epic fightinh show downa
Fantastic game. Well played guys.
Id love too see a battle of the blackwater battle report using the ASOIAF game
I can't wait when corvus corax comes on the tabletop.
Damn. Can't believe Tak lost by 1 point. We need a rematch!
That would be fun!
Watcher to the Lion - Buttt Daadddddd . I didnt wanna go to work today !!! .
i wanna see world eaters vs imperial guard next so we can see if the artillery of the guard will prevail over the chainswords of angron
That was one of our most popular fights in the previous edition.
@@PlayOnTabletop Awesome! I haven’t seen that one yet, I guess I have to watch it now!
Good to see :) tson won ...it was a close match :)
Petition for 2k points of Ultramarines + 2k points of Ynnari vs 4k points of Chaos Demons
Tak you need to pray to the charge-god more! That isn’t heresy lol
Is that what I am missing?
I was “just” talking to my friend today about how Thousand Sons weren’t played very often. What a coincidence.
Thought Mubin was screwed after Taq's massive early lead and leading all game. Such an epic battle but feels for Taq's bazillion snake eyes (Tzeentchan shenanigans I'm sure!!)
Tzeentch, is that you?
@@PlayOnTabletop dang, rumbled *teleports back to the eye of terror*
Both my armies vs each other? Oh hell yeah
Do a 1 giant army vs 2 smaller but the same point value it would be cool so see if one person with a giant army can outplay 2 people working together
WOW that was crazy close!!
Really enjoying this channel.
I'm gonna assume this will be Mubin vs Tak...unless Steve also does Dark Angels.
Every time I watch a Tak episode, the poor guy is just getting boned by the dice SO badly.
Dice luck isn't permanent, right?
The Classic Grudge Match Knights vs Wizards. Now all we need is Tyranids vs Tau.
Mubin should get +1" in the Mubin phase.
He can certainly have +1 in the Mubin phase. In the movement phase however...
Great game! Can't wait for the next Dark Angels game 🤞
That was an amazing game! Well played!
When you know you dice suck, maybe you should do some sacrifice to get into the range.
By the Holy Emperor's balls, Mubin has finally won a match!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mubin barely won, due to amazing luck and dice, with the best army in the game against one fairly bad. He is probably the worst stream player I have ever seen.
What a close game!
Muben always makes his rolls good game guys
Mubin is a machine!
Im so hyped for this one my two favorite factions are the dark angels and the thousand sons
Oh those poor dark angel roles..... if them charges hit... would have been a different game! Lots of fun to watch tho!
Mubin is movin' on up!!
with the death of the psychic phase, i’m glad to see ts still doing mortals
Tak didn’t lose. His dice did. I’ve never seen so many snake eye charges.
@@goliath1179 thanks for the spoiler...
THOUSAND SONS LETS GO!