Thank you for the explanation. Lately I've been admiring Mifune Senseis' Tai Otoshi a lot simply because he made it look so easy. I remember being a young man thinking that the leg was the source of power when in fact it is the hands that make this technique. Excellent waza.
Steve, I came across your video and was amazed! As your student, nearly 50 years ago, you look exactly the same! I cannot imagine just how good you are today, as i thought you were fantastic then! Always the teacher, your content is superb. It was an honor to learn from you! Joe Meyer
Thank you Cunningham Sensei. I had your videos on VHS after training with you in ND over 20 years ago, but they have since vanished. Nice to see your teachings again.
Never ending argument whether it’s an Ashi Waza (trip) or Te Waza brought me here. It’s a great video and explanation why, thank you for the upload! However an argument that hand involvement in the throw makes it a “Te” technique holds no water. Hands play “crucial role” in every single technique we perform, which will make all techniques in Judo te technique. Perhaps my Sambo Wrestling gives me a different perspective but I always viewed this throw as a trip.
Sorry for delays in getting online. We lost power for a week and had computers crash as a result. Fun, fun. One of the most important reasons we call Tai Otoshi a te-waza is that one of the most important, original versions of it does not use the leg across at all. I think I showed that in the video. If the leg makes it Tai Otoshi, and that makes it a leg throw, how can you throw it without the leg?
Every throw in judo that has "otoshi" in the name shares a core principle in how the throw is executed, which is that it involves a drop (otoshi) of tori's centre of gravity to perform the throwing action. In tai otoshi putting the leg across like that a convenient way to get that dropping of the centre of gravity but it's not actually necessary to perform the throw, as Sensei Cunningham demonstrated. You're not getting uke's bodyweight moving and then using your leg to block their ability to take a step thus to throw them - or, at least, you don't need to do so. Instead, you're getting your own bodyweight (and uke's) moving together and then using a sudden lowering of your own bodyweight to throw them.
The old O Goshi has a full hip insertion, it is a single large movement, and has no hip twist (koshi hinieri). This makes it come off as a projective version of O Goshi. I certainly understand what you are saying, though.
Thank you for the explanation. Lately I've been admiring Mifune Senseis' Tai Otoshi a lot simply because he made it look so easy. I remember being a young man thinking that the leg was the source of power when in fact it is the hands that make this technique. Excellent waza.
Steve, I came across your video and was amazed! As your student, nearly 50 years ago, you look exactly the same! I cannot imagine just how good you are today, as i thought you were fantastic then! Always the teacher, your content is superb. It was an honor to learn from you! Joe Meyer
Great summary. The conneciton to O Goshi is very interesting and highlights the projection principle involved in the throw.
Thank you Cunningham Sensei. I had your videos on VHS after training with you in ND over 20 years ago, but they have since vanished. Nice to see your teachings again.
Never ending argument whether it’s an Ashi Waza (trip) or Te Waza brought me here. It’s a great video and explanation why, thank you for the upload!
However an argument that hand involvement in the throw makes it a “Te” technique holds no water. Hands play “crucial role” in every single technique we perform, which will make all techniques in Judo te technique.
Perhaps my Sambo Wrestling gives me a different perspective but I always viewed this throw as a trip.
Sorry for delays in getting online. We lost power for a week and had computers crash as a result. Fun, fun. One of the most important reasons we call Tai Otoshi a te-waza is that one of the most important, original versions of it does not use the leg across at all. I think I showed that in the video. If the leg makes it Tai Otoshi, and that makes it a leg throw, how can you throw it without the leg?
Every throw in judo that has "otoshi" in the name shares a core principle in how the throw is executed, which is that it involves a drop (otoshi) of tori's centre of gravity to perform the throwing action.
In tai otoshi putting the leg across like that a convenient way to get that dropping of the centre of gravity but it's not actually necessary to perform the throw, as Sensei Cunningham demonstrated.
You're not getting uke's bodyweight moving and then using your leg to block their ability to take a step thus to throw them - or, at least, you don't need to do so. Instead, you're getting your own bodyweight (and uke's) moving together and then using a sudden lowering of your own bodyweight to throw them.
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Wonderful stuff, Steve.
Many thanks.
Always amazing. This is so well done. Thank you.
this is great. thank you very much
Good stuff
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Why would the old version of ogoshi not be a variation of uki goshi?
The old O Goshi has a full hip insertion, it is a single large movement, and has no hip twist (koshi hinieri). This makes it come off as a projective version of O Goshi. I certainly understand what you are saying, though.