Jesse Weber: If you tried Scott Peterson today, you might not get a guilty verdict | Dan Abrams Live
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The Los Angeles Innocence Project has taken on the case of Scott Peterson, who was convicted in 2004 of murdering his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son. NewsNation host Dan Abrams asks: Why is his case being reviewed now? Veteran journalist Geraldo Rivera, NewsNation host Ashleigh Banfield and Law & Crime Network anchor Jesse Weber weigh in.
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Can't a guy just enjoy some freezing ass cold fishing on S.F. Bay on Christmas Eve while his 8 months preggo wife stays home and NOT be accused of murdering her just because her severed torso washed up in the same spot? Jeez!!!!
Right?? I mean lots of guys have side chicks who they call from "Paris" during a vigil for their missing wife and son to wish them Happy New Year. I mean, people are entitled to process things the way they want to. Aren't they?
Her dad went the same day
Fishermen get blamed for everything.
😂
That’s circunstancial evidence. There was not one, one physical evidence. Not at the house, at the boat, at his truck, or whatever. Only his lies about being a widower before she disappeared. Yes, Scott is a liar, but I am not sure he is a murderer. May justice be serve. Not media circus.
Media meddling in the judicial system is bananas .
Yep
If it were today,he will be convicted too because his cell phone tracing and the car tracing will place him right on the bay where the bodies were found.😮
A pregnant woman interrupting a burglary at a neighbors house? No way. She would have called the cops, no way she would put her baby in danger over a burglary at the neighbors house
That's what I believe too. I can't see Laci confronting something like that. She wanted that baby so much that anything as reckless as that would have been unheard of.
The Scott Peterson trial was one of the most widely publicized losses of Mark Geragos' career. He's never let that loss go, & has re-tried it repeatedly in interviews & in the media. Call me a cynic, but maybe the LA Innocence Project getting involved here is about Mark Geragos calling in some favours.
Agree !!
Thought the same exact thing!
Ridiculous. Attorneys work off word of mouth and reputation. Nobody is going to put their reputation on the line like this if they didn't think there was something to it. Certainly not because somebody "called in a favor."
@@lazydaisy2292 I respectfully disagree. I’m long in the tooth & personally know of several attorneys who have tarnished their reputations, some have been disbarred, & a couple served jail time. Look what has unfolded before your eyes with some of DJT attorneys.
its like stranger by albert camus his just a callus person and unempathetic doesnt make him a murder. All the evidence aginst him was circumstantial even if there was alot of it.
Just one question for Ashleigh Banfield, why would the burglars who are so smart they got caught immediately, move the body to frame Scott but then take the time to weight her body down in the Bay?
Because the bay is a easy place to do so. It was months after she disappeared that the body show up at shore.
@@laurenmay2098 I'm not sure what you mean. If the burglars wanted to frame Scott, they'd just throw her in the Bay, they wouldn't need to weigh her down.
@SavannahJ79 Good point, I am so confused about this case, I am up and down with some of the evidence. But it is a great point.
Right?! It wasn't the burglars, it was Scott as charged, as convicted.
@@lour9348no. I’m innocent. Lacey fell. Honest.
He is guilty. He acted like nothing happened. It was grewsome he was still talking to his mistress. Scott guilty of two counts of first-degree murder in 2004. His wife, Laci, 27, was eight months pregnant when she went missing on Christmas Eve in 2002. While Scott initially helped look for her, it soon came out that he had been having an affair.
This Nancy Grace?
Gruesome
Why is Geraldo’s opinion relevant? Oh my god this guy he’s a joke.
I agree! Geraldo is something else !
@@shariboyle1166 he’s a glorified Jerry springer
GR is a bad guy in my opinion.
Well, for me, personally, when the Innocence Project speaks, I listen. They do tremendous work and I don't believe they would take this on without something compelling. I didn't really wonder way back then, but I have since.
He would be the most guilty looking innocent person ever.
100%
THIS IS NOT THE SAME INNOCENCE PROJECT.
I realized that later.
This aged like milk lol they just found 1 guy that they helped release with body parts in his apartment..... seems like they don't know sh!t
What about the fact that Scott dyed his hair and fled before he was caught? He’s guilty af.
He's really bad at playing innocent.
In case anyone is interested on the RI case Bandfield was going on about
It's about a Police Detective Jeffrey Scott Hornoff who was accused of murdering his mistress Vickie Cushman whom he is about to broke off with, there are actually no DNA evidence (unlike what Banfield said) in the scene but they convicted Scott (the name he go by) in 1996 because of the circumstance (the letter, the lies on their relationship) Then in 2002, a guy name Todd Barry walks into a police station and confess to that crime, Barry was a former lover of Vickie and broken into her house and kill it, he told police about information only a killer will know (like how he gets in, and what he uses to stuck Vickie with) and they let Scott goes free, not after a brief battle because the DA still believe Scott was guilty.
And yes, that case is truly remarkable, you probably don't know it will end up that way.
I remember that.
JUST BECAUSE WE ALLL THINK SOME ONE IS GUILTY DOES NOT MAKE THEM GUILTY. EMOTIONS ARE NOT DFACCTS.
Well, he was convicted and he did murder her and his son...so there's that.
Finally someone with some damn common sense. People that scream what they do would be begging people to stop if they were in the same position.
@@skkeechbecause you were there? And how many have been wrongfully convicted?
Geraldo they dumped the body and decided to move it to make it look like scott did it. Doesn't take a rocket scientist and obviously they made mistakes Geraldo, thank GOD they weren't rocket scientist so that Scott if he is innocent can actually be proven innocent. You sound dumb GERALDO. Did that broken nose affect your brain?
@@mistyevans8160 LOL! I covered the story from the beginning. He did it. He wanted to be single and NOT be a dad. It was obvious.
Enough already. He did it. Laci and the baby's bodies were literally found near the place he went fishing about 100 miles away from their house. He did it. I worked at USA Today when this broke...no one thought he was blamed because of his affair. He was blamed and convicted because HE DID IT! Toss away the keys and let him rot in prison.
After they had posted his alibi all over TV within a day.
@@yallmustveforgot so what? It’s not like that’s the only piece of evidence taken into consideration
Lol duh, that reply made no real point at all. What do you mean so what? I was debating the point that was made. Obviously it wasn't the only thing taken into consideration but there was no physical evidence. @@valerierodger
The thing is, Ashley Banfield doesn't show this level of skepticism in her reporting of recent cases. Once the cops charge a person she is convinced that they are guilty and has made comments, more than once, implying that any juror that doesn't agree is basically an idiot. I wish she would take a step back and be more neutral in her reporting. I think News Nation does a good job in its political reporting, but its reporting of crime stories is a disappointment, its overly sensationalized and once a person is charged that individual is assumed to be guilty.
EDIT: Fixed her last name.
*Ashleigh Banfield...But yeah she does seem to play judge & jury sometimes, although she's not nearly as bad as Nancy Grace in that regard. I disagree with you on News Nation's political reporting. They try to pretend to be balanced, but they lean towards the right...at least with some of their programming. Leland Vittert is one example... He's basically Tucker Carlson Lite.
Actually, I was surprised Banfield was reasonable. I cant always listen to her Nancy Grayish take on things. So, I was surprised at her measured reaction.
Is it possible he isn't guilty? Yes, but it is HIGHLY improbable.
Not really.
All the evidence has always pointed straight to the people involved in the Medina burglary on the 24th. It was directly across the street.
There are over a dozen credible sightings of Laci and McKenzie. The MPD lies until this day, insisting they found the woman that was mistaken for Laci. That never happened.
Then there is Russell Graybill who told officers on 12-27-02 that the gate was open and McKenzie was not on the property when he delivered mail to their house between 10:35 and 10:50 that morning. The MPD claimed that Laci had gone missing before Karen Servas put the dog back in the yard and closed the gate. That information alone shows that Laci was walking McKenzie when Graybill devered the mail.
Otherwise the gate would have been closed and McKenzie would have been barking at him.
Officer Callahan
…“[Graybill] said he entered the area around 1030 to 1045 in the morning. He said he couldn’t remember anything unusual from 516 Covena, but remembered the gate was open at 523 Covena. He said usually the dog barks at him from behind the gate. On 12-24-02 the gate was open and he did not see or hear the dog at 523 Covena.” (See Exh. 3 at HCP-00008.)
December 27, 2002, Graybill was interviewed Officer M. Callahan and Detective Skultety of the Modesto Police Department. According to Callahan’s handwritten police report, Graybill stated the following in response to the officer’s question “what he remembered from December 24, 2002 when he delivered mail in this area”:
……………“[Graybill] said he entered the area around 1030 to 1045 in the morning. He said he couldn’t remember anything unusual from 516 Covena, but remembered the gate was open at 523 Covena. He said usually the dog barks at him from behind the gate. On 12-24-02 the gate was open and he did not see or hear the dog at 523 Covena.” (See Exh. 3 at HCP-00008.)
More text from the habeas document:
Graybill was the Petersons’ postman, and he delivered mail to the Peterson home between 10:35 and 10:50 a.m. on December 24, 2002. (Exhibit 2 [Declaration of Russell Graybill] at HCP-000005-06; Exhibit 19 [Russell Graybill’s Delivery Record].) Graybill knew the Petersons’ dog, McKenzi, and explained to police (and has recently declared) that McKenzi would bark at him no matter where on the property the dog happened to be. (Exhibit 3 [Statement of Russell Graybill] at HCP-000008.) Whether the dog was in the front or back yards, or even inside the house, McKenzi would bark at Graybill. (Exh. 2 at HCP-000005.)
Graybill
There was a schedule that Graybill printed out showing his scan times for December 24. It includes a notation about the time he delivered mail to the Peterson house. This was entered as Exhibit 34.
He arrived at his first scan at 10:19 a.m. and at his last scan at 3:41 p.m. for a total of 5 hours and 22 minutes delivery time.
This is all documented in trial records.
The gate was open and McKenzie was not on the property at the time he delivered mail to the Peterson house between 10:35 and 10:50. This proves Laci was NOT missing since we know Karen Servas put McKenzie back in the yard before Graybill delivered the mail.
Plenty of incriminating evidence against S Todd and G Pearce existed.
Lt. Aponte gave a signed statement to defense investigators which said the prisoner had been interviewed by MPD, and that MPD had received a copy of the taped phone conversation. Instead of this information being disclosed during discovery. The only information provided to the defense about his tip was a simple notation on a CD which included 10,000 other tips about the case.
-Merlin, the trailing dog owned by Cindee Valentin, trailed Laci's scent to the Gallo Winery in the airport district, on the night of December 26. Not far from the burglars residence.
-December 31, a gold Croton watch, identical to Laci’s watch which disappeared the same day she did, was pawned by Deanna Renfro. Highly unlikely this is just a coincidence.
It gets better. The families of Deanna Renfro, Steven Todd and the Tenbrinks know one another.
-Diane Jackson reported seeing 3 men with a VAN and a SAFE in front of the Medina’s house at 11:40 a.m. on December 24. There is no debating this. The burglary happened the same day Laci disappeared. Both Todd and Pearce pled guilty to burglary charges 12-24-02. They both received reduced sentences.
- S Todd would have received 25 years for his third offense. So why did he get 8 years and 8 months, far less than 25 years. Pearce received only 180 days, yet he was another career criminal.
-Tom Harshman, who lived in Modesto, was driving with Elizabeth Harshman between 2 and 4 p.m. on the afternoon of December 24. He saw a young pregnant woman being forced into a van. He turned around and went back to the spot hoping to find the van still there and hoping to get more information about the license plate number. But they were gone.
1. He called police (911 MPD) that same day.
2. Tried again December 28.
3. December 28, he also called the Laci tip line twice. His first call on this date was listed incorrectly under the name Harsh and was given Bates Stamp number 14789. The call was given to Detective Holmes. Harsh(man) said that he had called 3 or 4 days earlier on the day that he had seen a pregnant young woman being pushed into a van. There had been a man standing over her as she squatted to urinate with her back up against a chain-link fence. The man was described as 30’s, tall, thin, with ponytail, dirty blonde to gray hair, scrubby looking. When she finished, the woman was shepherded back to the driver’s door of the car, where another man’s arm was seen pulling her into the car. He said the young woman was wearing black pants and a red shirt. He said she had a scared look on her face."
4. Jan 3rd, he went to the Command Post in the park and relayed this to the officer on duty. Over
40,000 pages in the discovery and nothing about this report was in it.
5. February 2003, Harshman’s wife spoke to a relative of hers who lived in New York about the sighting of Laci Peterson near the corner of Scenic and Claus. Mrs. Harshman’s relative shared this story with an NYPD detective. This NYPD detective was so concerned that he contacted the MPD and spoke personally to Detective Grogan on February 14, 2003. What did Grogan do with the information? Nothing at all
6. pre-trial hearings in May of 2004, DA Investigator Kevin Bertalotto noticed the Harshman tip and insisted that Grogan call Tom Harshman and speak to him personally. Grogan did this on May 18, 2004.
An audiotape and a transcription of his conversation with Harshman to the defense on May 20, 11 days before the beginning of the trial.
If I was on a jury today I'd convict him, the circumstantial evidence was and still is overwhelming beyond a reasonable doubt.
Being a bad husband and a liar doesn’t make you a double murderer.
Yeah there was no physical or forensic evidence. Nobody saw her in the boat at the marina and tests shown her dead weight would've been almost impossible to throw out of his boat without overturning it.
@@yallmustveforgotthere was physical and forensic evidence presented in this case. Also documentary evidence and a mountain of circumstantial evidence.
What "tests" have shown it was impossible to throw the body out of the boat?
What physical evidence was there? You've clearly not researched the case too well if you're unaware of this. They took a dead weight dumby, that was actually less than she would've weighed, and tried throwing it over the same type of boat he was in. Not that complicated. But again, what physical and forensic evidence was there? Don't worry, I'll wait.@@sophie8394
Why is everyone yelling at each other?
When meeting a new woman and trying to come off as single who the fuck would say their wife died and this will be the first xmas without her. Just say I'm single or we're separated. Who the fuck says that and what are the odds Laci vanishes in the 2 weeks after Scott said that? All of his actions were as if Laci is never coming home, adding a porn channel at home, selling her car, wtf? And the capper of all cappers, Lacis body found where he said he went fishing. Jesus.
Dan says they'd have to hold the body, his alibi was all over the news within a day.
And they would have to hold the body until then instead of getting rid of it right away. What part of that confuses you?
@@valerierodger Everyone knew his alibi, so the murderers knew exactly where to put her body to frame Scott… it’s not that hard to understand.
His location of Brooks Island wasn't released to the public until Jan 3rd.
Ps...the burglars were arrested and in jail Jan 2nd.
Thank you@@jennay3653
The location of the bay was released within a day
AS I RECALL
Scott's search history - either home computer or used at library - showed study of SF bay currents by time of day, out going as prime interest and how much weight to sink a body.
ALSO, there was evidence he had recently purchased chain and cinder blocks - items tied to Laci's body.
It's all just circumstantial evidence BUT he couldn't account for the whereabouts of these newly purchased items.
So did the police use his mistress to frame him or was it the burglers that used his mistress to frame him? Is there any upside to framing anyone?
hard to not think about Conner who would be graduating college right about now.
but this is exactly psychopathy is - an unbelievable disregard for others to serve yourself.
I don’t think she knew he was having an affair. And she’s not here to tell us.
He did online searching,he had the same concrete in his boat that held her down in water, he told mistress she was dead, went “fishing” on Christmas Eve in non fishing time in the freezing cold, he tried to go in the run….COME ON!!!! GUILTY!!! 🙄🤦🏻♀️🤡🙄
You don't have to believe he was framed. You merely have to believe they kept quiet when the husband was arrested.
His fishing alibi is garbage. Went fishing from a boat from Berkeley? Why? Didn’t he tell people he was golfing that day? And then the body shows up in the bay? Do I have my facts wrong?
I'd just really like to know - what is this new information/evidence the innocence project is claiming's a reason to appeal this case?
Blood on a mattress in the van she allegedly was thrown into.
@raygordon3728 oh. Like in the burglars' van?
If it's for reals, that's definitely something that needs to be looked into.
This case will die in the vine…..he was convicted and his conviction reinstated
Dude was to nochalant that's what made him look guilty
I do think the burglary-next-door angle should’ve been explored more simply to do due diligence. It is a possible scenario where, say, Laci goes out with the dog, she witnessed the burglary, they see her, they take her, kill her, then dump her in the bay. It is feasible. It may not be the most likely scenario but often, as it happens, the most likely scenario doesn’t always occur. That’s why sports events and outcomes have odds on different scenarios because they’re possible. (Where Scott really went wrong: dumping her body where he went fishing, if he’s truly guilty. If he would’ve, say, buried her in the woods somewhere instead and the body is never found maybe he never even goes on trial.)
How does all of that happen when the burglary occurred 2 days after she was murdered?
@sophie8394 Burglary was the 24th.
AMERICAS WANTED TIP
Four days after Steven Todd and Glenn Pearce were arrested, America’s Most Wanted ran a story on Laci’s disappearance. An anonymous call came into their hotline. We refer to it as the AMW tip.
The caller said he had a conversation with two men who were bragging about Laci’s murder. The second man was unnamed, but the tipster gave a description and knew where the second individual lived.
It was reported that the first man said “when they did it they thought it was going to be just another murder case . . . now it’s a big case all over TV and news . . . and they are blaming the husband and they are not getting any attention.” went on to say how stupid everyone was.
The caller went on to say that he knew where the first man lived with his mother; his mother has the same last name. The last name is worth mentioning because four days earlier, the Modesto Police had encountered the Mother. She was present at her neighbor’s home when police came looking for the Medina’s stolen property. There was a strong connection between the Doe family and burglar Steven Todd. Certainly, this would merit follow-up, especially since the AMW operator stated this caller was 100% sure.
Unfortunately, the extent of their follow up was this:
This tip was given to a Modesto police officer, the same officer that encountered the mother four days earlier. This officer drove to the sons house, which was one block away from where he had encountered the mother, four days earlier. The son was standing outside. The officer confirmed his identity and asked where he was on December 24th.
He said he was “locked up.” The officer called the jail and a deputy confirmed that John Doe had been in jail on the 24th, so the officer did not ask any other questions.
The tip did not say he had murdered Laci, the tip just said “they did it.” It is not clear at all who “they” are. However, the officer asked no more questions. The officer never asked why it would be reported that he was bragging about the murder of Laci Peterson; whether he knew anything about Laci’s whereabouts; or about his mother’s connection to the Medina burglary.
It was recently verified the first man WAS NOT IN JAIL during December of 2002. The deputy that had confirmed he was in jail had used an intake document that only estimates an inmate’s jail stay, it was not updated once he was released.
The MPD screwed up big time.
@@sophie8394
MEDIA COVENA
Amie Krigbaum
McALLISTER: How about the 26th of December, the day after Christmas, did you see any unusual vehicles that day in the immediate neighborhood there of your house?
KRIGBAUM: Our neighborhood was filled with cars. So every vehicle in the neighborhood was unusual. It was packed.
McALLISTER: Okay. Are we talking police? Are we talking media? Are we talking both?
KRIGBAUM: Both.
McALLISTER: Both?
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: So it was just like a parking lot?
KRIGBAUM: Yes, for months afterwards.
McALLISTER: And for months, that we know, for months afterwards?
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: Yes. When -- now, we talked the months afterwards. Did you ever have the opportunity to see what happened whenever Scott arrived home or left home once the media had descended on the neighborhood?
KRIGBAUM: When he came home?
McALLISTER: Yeah.
KRIGBAUM: Yeah. They'd go up and try to talk to him and film him and -- they were filming the house even without him there.
McALLISTER: Filming the house?
KRIGBAUM: Yeah.
McALLISTER: The shark-feeding frenzy, wasn't it?
KRIGBAUM: Filming the neighbors.
McALLISTER: And whenever he came or went, then they descended on him and were wanting him to talk and --
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: And just from your standpoint as a person who only happened to live across the street, was that inconvenient to you?
KRIGBAUM: Oh, yes.
McALLISTER: Kind of feel like it robbed you of your privacy a little bit?
KRIGBAUM: Oh, yes.
Susan Medina
P. HARRIS: Do you, you came back on the 26th and there were, I assume you were somewhat surprised to find your street lined up with media trucks and police officers and so forth; is that right?
MEDINA: Yes.
P. HARRIS: And for the most part, how long were these media trucks and the whole media conglomeration, were they there for a couple months?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: Longer than that?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: And to the point where it was hard to even go, get out of your own driveway, is that a fair statement?
MEDINA: That's a fair statement.
P. HARRIS: There would be people literally, well, let me just ask you a question. Would you say there were more than a hundred people out there?
D. HARRIS: Objection, vague as to when.
JUDGE: Yes.
P. HARRIS: I'll rephrase it. From the time you arrived home for the first couple of weeks there were well over a hundred people in the street, media people, is that fair to say?
MEDINA: There's a lot, but I, but I cannot differentiate the media per se and a lot of curious people.
P. HARRIS: Oh, sure.
MEDINA: So there is hundreds.
P. HARRIS: There were literally just
hundreds of people out there?
MEDINA: Correct.
Terra Venable
VENABLE: And the 26th we were home.
GERAGOS: You were home all day?
VENABLE: Yes.
GERAGOS: Okay. What was the presence on the street like on the 26th? Did you have nothing but press and people and the, it was pretty tough to get in and out of your driveway?
VENABLE: Yeah. There was, there was a lot of press and cars and people.
Susan Medina
HARRIS: Do you, you came back on the 26th and there were, I assume you were somewhat surprised to find your street lined up with media trucks and police officers and so forth; is that right?
MEDINA: Yes.
P. HARRIS: And for the most part, how long were these media trucks and the whole media conglomeration, were they there for a couple months?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: Longer than that?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: And to the point where it was hard to even go, get out of your own driveway, is that a fair statement?
MEDINA: That's a fair statement.
P. HARRIS: There would be people literally, well, let me just ask you a question. Would you say there were more than a hundred people out there?
D. HARRIS: Objection, vague as to when.
JUDGE: Yes.
P. HARRIS: I'll rephrase it. From the time you arrived home for the first couple of weeks there were well over a hundred people in the street, media people, is that fair to say?
MEDINA: There's a lot, but I, but I cannot differentiate the media per se and a lot of curious people.
P. HARRIS: Oh, sure.
MEDINA: So there is hundreds.
P. HARRIS: There were literally just hundreds of people out there?
MEDINA: Correct.
P. HARRIS: And as you, as the weeks wore on and the months wore on there continued to be a large number of people out in the street at all times?
MEDINA: Correct.
@@sophie8394
How was she murdered that day when Conner was determined to be alive until Jan 3rd by both the States expert and the Medical examiner? Furthermore, Dr Charles March testified there is no way that Scott and Laci Peterson's unborn baby could have died any earlier than Dec. 29, 2002. Dr Allison Galloway the States own wxpert and Forensic anthropologist determined the baby could have even been alive as far along as Jan 14th. How is he guilty if Laci was alive after the 24th?
Two bit burglars aren't afraid of jail. It's a risk they take. If Laci saw them, they wouldn't have cared. Killing her? going from a month in jail to life? no chance. Scott never anticipated her body coming to the surface. And the ticket machine at the Berkely Marina gave printed receipts, with time and date on them, Scott counted on that to show he was there. To think he was framed would mean these burglars, by the way who already got away with murder, would carry her to the Berkley marina, risk capture, dump her body without being seen with no guarantee that her body would be found? No chance. Scott is 100% guilty. He's a piece of chit.
Banfield is right. There are too many cases that have been overturned, that looked initially like a slam dunk. This is one of the cases that made Dan Abrams popular back in the day. Thank gd reporters don't decide these cases.
Anyone interested in the wrongly convicted listen to the podcast " Inadmissable: Shreds of Evidence."
There is always the possiblity a further deep dive won"t lead the case to innocence.
I like that the innocence project doesn't stay away from cases just because of media attention
I remember Nancy Grace, it was horrible. He was tried by the media and I don’t remember a gag order. If he is guilty of not, I don’t know, but he didn’t get a fair trial. The jurors were all in for fame and whatever else. Ridiculous.
@@laurenmay2098 Nancy Grace always believes everyone accused is guilty. There are way too many real investigative journalists available via newspaper' s, podcasts and UA-cam to listen only to Nancy Grace. However, I know her take on this will only be negative. Again, even if their investigation does not prove Scott innocent. I am glad the innocence project had the fortitude to take on the case.
@@dparks3784 I like Nancy, but she is crazy, lol.
@@laurenmay2098 yep. lol
@@laurenmay2098 cases are always tried by the media in the court of public opinion. That has absolutely nothing to do with their trial in the court of law.
And casting aspersions on the jurors just because you don’t like their verdict is ridiculous, as is the notion that 12 screened jurors would send somebody to death row just to get a few minutes in the spotlight - and on that note, even if that’s what they were after, they would have been better off acquitting him, or at least hanging the jury, because that would’ve created a whole lot more media attention and a lot more people would’ve been interested in what they had to say
It feels he was always trying to make it look like she was either cheating or they had an open relationship.
An affair his wife made peace with but he told the mistress he lost his wife and that was going to be his first Christmas without his wife.
Sad but true. A jury today may walk him or hang for the fear of too many defendants being wrongly convicted that with new evidence being discovered may overturned a guilty verdict to not guilty. I noticed in the last few years jurors are very careful in their decision . In addition, all 12 must agree. Not easy to do these days. Jurors seem to question more, as it should be.
Who's male dna is it though? They never looked into it further to see who's DNA it belonged to. That person deserves juctice.
Scott is guiltier than OJ!
He’s either guilty or was framed. I don’t think the innocence project would take the case unless there is substantial evidence to overturn the verdict.
The Innocence Project didn't take the case. The LAIP did. Not the same thing.
Ugh doing an interview with Diane Sawyer his first mistake
This guy is guilty...he couldn't tell the truth about anything...the problem here is that they found his wife's and his unborn child's body at the very place where he went fishing on Christmas Eve... that's the problem...lol..
I agree with Banfield, the case in Rhode Island is similar, SP may not be guilty
It was the affair as well as Amber with her lawyer doing interviews that did him in. Yes he was totally BSing Amber and a terrible cheater and a cad, but he's not a murderer.
Mansfield and Heraldo...two of the worst and should be working for the enquire magazine
This is ridiculous
You might not get a guilty verdict today becasue we are so screwed up today
Mr Mustache is just a show piece here.
"Why would you keep a body that you murder"? What a stupid question ,like that never happen before.
What if he is innocent?!
Its pretty obvious what there are doing. Round 2. Trying to taint the new jury, if SP gets a new trial with the innocence project.
Plenty of incriminating evidence against S Todd and G Pearce existed.
Lt. Aponte gave a signed statement to defense investigators which said the prisoner had been interviewed by MPD, and that MPD had received a copy of the taped phone conversation. Instead of this information being disclosed during discovery. The only information provided to the defense about his tip was a simple notation on a CD which included 10,000 other tips about the case.
-Merlin, the trailing dog owned by Cindee Valentin, trailed Laci's scent to the Gallo Winery in the airport district, on the night of December 26. Not far from the burglars residence.
-December 31, a gold Croton watch, identical to Laci’s watch which disappeared the same day she did, was pawned by Deanna Renfro. Highly unlikely this is just a coincidence.
It gets better. The families of Deanna Renfro, Steven Todd and the Tenbrinks know one another.
-Diane Jackson reported seeing 3 men with a VAN and a SAFE in front of the Medina’s house at 11:40 a.m. on December 24. There is no debating this. The burglary happened the same day Laci disappeared. Both Todd and Pearce pled guilty to burglary charges 12-24-02. They both received reduced sentences.
- S Todd would have received 25 years for his third offense. So why did he get 8 years and 8 months, far less than 25 years. Pearce received only 180 days, yet he was another career criminal.
-Tom Harshman, who lived in Modesto, was driving with Elizabeth Harshman between 2 and 4 p.m. on the afternoon of December 24. He saw a young pregnant woman being forced into a van. He turned around and went back to the spot hoping to find the van still there and hoping to get more information about the license plate number. But they were gone.
1. He called police (911 MPD) that same day.
2. Tried again December 28.
3. December 28, he also called the Laci tip line twice. His first call on this date was listed incorrectly under the name Harsh and was given Bates Stamp number 14789. The call was given to Detective Holmes. Harsh(man) said that he had called 3 or 4 days earlier on the day that he had seen a pregnant young woman being pushed into a van. There had been a man standing over her as she squatted to urinate with her back up against a chain-link fence. The man was described as 30’s, tall, thin, with ponytail, dirty blonde to gray hair, scrubby looking. When she finished, the woman was shepherded back to the driver’s door of the car, where another man’s arm was seen pulling her into the car. He said the young woman was wearing black pants and a red shirt. He said she had a scared look on her face."
4. Jan 3rd, he went to the Command Post in the park and relayed this to the officer on duty. Over
40,000 pages in the discovery and nothing about this report was in it.
5. February 2003, Harshman’s wife spoke to a relative of hers who lived in New York about the sighting of Laci Peterson near the corner of Scenic and Claus. Mrs. Harshman’s relative shared this story with an NYPD detective. This NYPD detective was so concerned that he contacted the MPD and spoke personally to Detective Grogan on February 14, 2003. What did Grogan do with the information? Nothing at all
6. pre-trial hearings in May of 2004, DA Investigator Kevin Bertalotto noticed the Harshman tip and insisted that Grogan call Tom Harshman and speak to him personally. Grogan did this on May 18, 2004.
An audiotape and a transcription of his conversation with Harshman to the defense on May 20, 11 days before the beginning of the trial.
I liked the innocence project, they have done good work, but I am skeptical of them taking this case on. They found her where he went fishing... that's enough for me to convict.
I’d vote not to convict because there wasn’t proof beyond reasonable doubt.
@seanyiscubsfan1 good for you. I Didn't watch the trial, so not sure. It is better sometimes guilty go free than an innocent person go to prison.
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I heard one of the jurors say that’s what clinched it for them, her body washing up near where Scott was “fishing”.
@@SacredOwl I completely agree. What happened to Laci Peterson and her unborn child was a terrible despicable act. Scott was definitely not helping himself by being an unfaithful asshole. That being said if this new evidence proves that he didn’t do it. Then it is a grave miscarriage of justice to lock up an innocent person for a crime they didn’t commit. Worse than seeing a guilty person walk free.
Is this Wendi adelson? Lol
Modesto police department gave up scotts alibi about fishing in the Bay to the public way too soon. So yes i believe the burglars are who put her in the bay to make scott guilty and with his affair it worked out for them to blame it on scott.
Impossible.
Geraldo’s mustache is ridiculous.
cartoon lol
I have always thought he was guilty, however, during the trial I always felt there was never rock solid evidence. It was all circumstantial and in great volumes. He is guilty, but he was convicted on pure circumstantial.
There is nothing wrong with being convicted on circumstantial evidence if it is beyond a reasonable doubt.
I am not saying it isn’t. @@kristinstrickland1038
I don’t think they kept the body, they more than likely moved it.
Shut it Ashley!
Let’s not also forget during the pandemic that Scott was one of the convicted felons illegally getting virus funds during the pandemic.
How is this relevant
OMG, Ashleigh, this is painful 😖
I think the innocence project does good work but I am very disappointed in this one. This is disgusting.
Same with when they tried with Adnan then quietly walked away.
If you support them you would not be talking like that. let them do what they know to do. we can wait and see the results.
What gets you so mad...The fact that police did not even consider it could have been someone else, and fed the public lies, or worse.....Didn't bother doing their jobs, because their egos are swelled...Work is well, work...If you are passionate about your job, and really care about doing a great job, you would push every stone to find the right person. Things aren't always as they appear to be. Sad but true.
It’s not the Innocence Project taking this on, it’s the *Los Angeles Innocence Project.* Two different organizations. And from the Innocence Project’s website:
“Any and all inquiries about Mr. Peterson’s case should be directed to the Los Angeles Innocence Project, a non-profit organization wholly independent of the Innocence Project.”
@@Lynn-zq8qo the police did consider other suspects and did investigate them.
Did the host do any research on this topic? Wtf?
He lost his family and then 20 years of his life because of incompetence. Very sad.
I earned a law degree 20 years ago. Never went into law. But i learned that Evidence does not equal Truth.
he killed his wife and unborn child you make men like me look bad with your nonsense
@@BILLYRFCNO1 I doubt he did it
@@BILLYRFCNO1I have doubts, and it is reasonable to have it.
@@HaiteLibbies 🤣🤣🤣no he done it maybe look back to what got him convicted his lies and lets not forget his wife and unborn child turned up where he had been fishing lol yeah someone kept her body just to set up the husband america is so full of american simpletons
He was convicted and imprisoned because the prosecution provided sufficient evidence that an entire jury beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, in spite of the fact that he had an excellent lawyer doing everything he could to insert reasonable doubt
Go away Geraldo
Gen X numbers for children make Momma so proud, but the divorce rate is sad, possibly cause of Jeff guys, but melinials are behind way way onto the upcoming slow slow 2nd Beta.
Circumstances of the century by the People not science not confession...
If all of the evidence was the same YOU ABSOLUTELY WOULD GET A GUILTY VERDICT.
Scott is 💯 x💯guilty for killing his wife pregnant and his stay in HAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE..
They say out there, that the innocent project is a scam.
Well those who say it are wrong, and I hope they or their family never need their help.
First of all, it’s not a scam, second, they do good work, third, the innocence project has nothing to do with this
It’s not the Innocence Project taking this on, it’s the *Los Angeles Innocence Project.* Two different organizations. And from the Innocence Project’s website:
“Any and all inquiries about Mr. Peterson’s case should be directed to the Los Angeles Innocence Project, a non-profit organization wholly independent of the Innocence Project.”
If the killer wanted to frame Scott, they would have left Laci on the shore not put her in the bay where she might never be found.
They have a $500,000 reward. No way the burglars did it and no one talked for that $$$ SCOTT PETERSON IS GUILTY!!!!
This is about Lacy and her unborn child. He should shut up, he’s done enough damage.
It's about TIME!
He admitted standing behind her and strangling her.
Move on this is ridiculous!
What? lol you're insane
Shouldn’t have gotten a guilty verdict then. They didn’t have anything substantial.
Wow, you mean to tell me a man having an affair lied to his mistress what a shocker !!! so that makes him guilty of murder ??? You people are legal analyst give me a break ! There is not one of you that cannot tell me he wasn’t convicted long before the trial started !! How the hell did a girl who was a victim of domestic violence, become a juror ??? Then after the trial, go outside the courthouse and gloat ! Talking to the media I thought this was America I thought we all get a fair trial Scott Peterson did not ! The prosecution did prove one thing he’s a scumbag !! he was convicted on a theory a theory the prosecution couldn’t even prove
He was convicted on MOUNTAINS of circumstantial evidence. If you think it was all because of simply lying to his mistress, you obviously haven't been paying attention.
@billyc768 Can you give a single shred of circumstantial evidence that can't be explained away? If reasonable, innocent explanations and alternate theories that counter guilty inferences are possible, the jury is required to find reasonable doubt.
@@billyc768 oh, I paid attention. ! Cameras weren’t allowed in the quart room, but I watch the news every day and mountains ?? I don’t know about that but whatever they was circumstantial ! I do know for a guy who is supposedly killed her in the house. There was no blood in the house ! So I guy who is supposedly carried out to truck in a tarp there was no blood ! No blood in the boat ! So, after spraying Luminol, I wonder how could there be not an ounce of blood not a spec
@@user-fk2is1bf3e strangulation will not leave blood - ever think about that? He did it, look at how callous he is, look at the overwhelming evidence that ultimately convicted him. On top of that, he has exhausted all appeals - why? Because there was absolutely nothing introduced to overturn the verdict. Let's now see what the so-called Innocence Project has, but it's highly unlikely that Scott's conviction will be overturned - he had the means, the motive and the opportunity. He's guilty as charged, he's guilty as convicted.
@@aok4418 and the jury found that there was no reasonable doubt. The entire jury. Not just one person, the entire jury.
San Francisco Bay is huge! . How would the killers find the exact spot and location . When that wasn’t on the news at the time? Just that he fished in the bay???
Like heck. Guilty.
No if you tried him today they would have had more dna evidence against him and did a grid in that bedroom and house to figure out on a computer what he did to Laci that night and morning.
If I had been on the Scott Peterson jury I’m not convinced I would’ve voted guilty. It was a highly circumstantial case. Sure, he had motive, means and opportunity but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty. If you’re missing, say, opportunity it means you’re not guilty but the converse doesn’t necessarily hold. Do I think he killed Laci? Yeah, sure. I tried to read a book about the case from I think a prosecuting attorney but it was so biased I gave up, so at least I know the basics of the case. I do think if he’s truly guilty he’s kind of a dumb a-s because in this case, no matter how painful, he could’ve gotten a divorce. But it appears that Scott is a true sociopath, especially when it comes to lying. He and the truth are not good friends. I think he learned to cover lies with more lies and it eventually trapped him. He probably thought that he couldn’t get a divorce because maybe Amber learns about it and she leaves him afterwards. Of course if that was his thinking it was flawed because Laci’s disappearance became big news which was worse for him.
Everyone in Modesto knew scott Peterson went to the Berkeley Marina by dec 26th that evening and there is evidence that Conor was born on the 28th of December
Scott is guilty.
the lady from newsmax has very good points so Dan yells over her points midway trying to make her look stupid, she needs to discuss this by herself for her viewers.
This man has always been innocent, he's to handsome to commit such a crime......😊
Imagine Soctt peterson dye his hair to to evade police, Hes guilty as charged.
When I click on your vids and see Geraldo, I want to immediately click off. Time for him to go. Yuck.
Guilty as hell. Just like OJ.
If there was only proof of that. There isn't.
Are we sure the tapes the gf made are from the times she says they are?
Yes.
He built those cement weights to keep the body underwater 😛
That Scott is a joke 👎🏻 Heartless and evil
Poor Laci and Conner and their family.
Ta bad they cant discuss the case without all the disorder among themselves.
Many people are going to owe some apologies if evidence comes to surface that proves Peterson didn’t do this including myself. We ALL agree he was the world’s worst husband but there was never a shred of physical evidence only severe media prosecution and cops that considered this case in the bag by never investigating.
Not a shred of evidence? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So if it is found that there is no new evidence or if it's found that this missing DM person was all made up, will you apologise to the members of Laci's family? Should the Petersons?? I think many people should owe them an apology if this all comes back as rubbish (which it will), for the 20 years they've put this family through court cases instead of allowing them to grieve in peace and let Laci go in peace.
100 percent agree. The pressure to solve was intense...I believe he is innocent...He definitely was a terrible husband, etc....
So you didn’t actually watch the trial and you don’t realize there was, in fact, physical evidence
@@Lynn-zq8qoI am a terrible husband. I cheated on my wife many times and enjoyed the cheating part. Made it more fun. I also cheated on my taxes too. However I am not a murderer.
Idk, given that there was a burglary directly across the street from her, I could see this not being the spouse. I know all the fingers point to him, but I'm sure the media attempted to make it appear that way too! If I'm burglarizing a house and see a woman who could potentially rat me out, I would want to keep her quiet. Who knows, maybe they didn't mean to kill, but I could see this occurring. Criminals are stupid especially when they act in the moment. So I'm not going to blame the husband at this time.
It's his actions after that don't make sense for an innocent man.
The burglary happened on the 26th.
How do people not know this?
@sophie8394
Kristen Reed sees the suspicious van on the 24th.
GERAGOS: Does that refresh your recollection that she said, yeah, it was like a brown metallic for the Dodge seemed like it was a Dodge kind of a make, like kind of it tapered up?
BROCCHINI: That's what she said she said. It was a vehicle.
-Diane Jackson reported seeing 3 men with a VAN and a SAFE in front of the Medina’s house at 11:40 a.m. on December 24. There is no debating this. The burglary happened the same day Laci disappeared. Both Todd and Pearce pled guilty to burglary charges 12-24-02. They both received reduced sentences.
-December 31, a gold Croton watch, identical to Laci’s watch which disappeared the same day she did, was pawned by Deanna Renfro. Highly unlikely this is just a coincidence. The families of Deanna Renfro, Steven Todd and the Tenbrinks know one another.
-Todd says it wasn't until the morning of the 26th between 4:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. that he even entered the home, and was home by 6:30 a.m. to wake up his friend and get him to load up the safe.
People started arriving at the Peterson's home by 8:00 a.m. on the 26th to begin their search for Laci, and there likely was media still on the street from the night before. How did he transport all of those items without one person seeing him?
-Merlin, the trailing dog owned by Cindee Valentin, trailed Laci's scent to the Gallo Winery in the airport district, on the night of December 26.
-Tom Harshman, who lived in Modesto, was driving with Elizabeth Harshman between 2 and 4 p.m. on the afternoon of December 24. He saw a young pregnant woman being forced into a van. He turned around and went back to the spot hoping to find the van still there and hoping to get more information about the license plate number. But they were gone.
1. He called police (911 MPD) that same day.
2. Tried again December 28.
3. December 28, he also called the Laci tip line twice. His first call on this date was listed incorrectly under the name Harsh and was given Bates Stamp number 14789. The call was given to Detective Holmes. Harsh(man) said that he had called 3 or 4 days earlier on the day that he had seen a pregnant young woman being pushed into a van. There had been a man standing over her as she squatted to urinate with her back up against a chain-link fence. The man was described as 30’s, tall, thin, with ponytail, dirty blonde to gray hair, scrubby looking. When she finished, the woman was shepherded back to the driver’s door of the car, where another man’s arm was seen pulling her into the car. He said the young woman was wearing black pants and a red shirt. He said she had a scared look on her face."
4. Jan 3rd, he went to the Command Post in the park and relayed this to the officer on duty. Over
40,000 pages in the discovery and nothing about this report was in it.
5. February 2003, Harshman’s wife spoke to a relative of hers who lived in New York about the sighting of Laci Peterson near the corner of Scenic and Claus. Mrs. Harshman’s relative shared this story with an NYPD detective. This NYPD detective was so concerned that he contacted the MPD and spoke personally to Detective Grogan on February 14, 2003. What did Grogan do with the information? Nothing at all.
6. pre-trial hearings in May of 2004, DA Investigator Kevin Bertalotto noticed the Harshman tip and insisted that Grogan call Tom Harshman and speak to him personally. Grogan did this on May 18, 2004.
An audiotape and a transcription of his conversation with Harshman to the defense on May 20, 11 days before the beginning of the trial.
-Lt. Aponte gave a signed statement to defense investigators which said the prisoner had been interviewed by MPD, and that MPD had received a copy of the taped phone conversation. Instead of this information being disclosed during discovery. The only information provided to the defense about his tip was a simple notation on a CD which included 10,000 other tips about the case.
@Sophie
MEDIA COVENA 26th
Amie Krigbaum
McALLISTER: How about the 26th of December, the day after Christmas, did you see any unusual vehicles that day in the immediate neighborhood there of your house?
KRIGBAUM: Our neighborhood was filled with cars. So every vehicle in the neighborhood was unusual. It was packed.
McALLISTER: Okay. Are we talking police? Are we talking media? Are we talking both?
KRIGBAUM: Both.
McALLISTER: Both?
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: So it was just like a parking lot?
KRIGBAUM: Yes, for months afterwards.
McALLISTER: And for months, that we know, for months afterwards?
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: Yes. When -- now, we talked the months afterwards. Did you ever have the opportunity to see what happened whenever Scott arrived home or left home once the media had descended on the neighborhood?
KRIGBAUM: When he came home?
McALLISTER: Yeah.
KRIGBAUM: Yeah. They'd go up and try to talk to him and film him and -- they were filming the house even without him there.
McALLISTER: Filming the house?
KRIGBAUM: Yeah.
McALLISTER: The shark-feeding frenzy, wasn't it?
KRIGBAUM: Filming the neighbors.
McALLISTER: And whenever he came or went, then they descended on him and were wanting him to talk and --
KRIGBAUM: Yes.
McALLISTER: And just from your standpoint as a person who only happened to live across the street, was that inconvenient to you?
KRIGBAUM: Oh, yes.
McALLISTER: Kind of feel like it robbed you of your privacy a little bit?
KRIGBAUM: Oh, yes.
Susan Medina
P. HARRIS: Do you, you came back on the 26th and there were, I assume you were somewhat surprised to find your street lined up with media trucks and police officers and so forth; is that right?
MEDINA: Yes.
P. HARRIS: And for the most part, how long were these media trucks and the whole media conglomeration, were they there for a couple months?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: Longer than that?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: And to the point where it was hard to even go, get out of your own driveway, is that a fair statement?
MEDINA: That's a fair statement.
P. HARRIS: There would be people literally, well, let me just ask you a question. Would you say there were more than a hundred people out there?
D. HARRIS: Objection, vague as to when.
JUDGE: Yes.
P. HARRIS: I'll rephrase it. From the time you arrived home for the first couple of weeks there were well over a hundred people in the street, media people, is that fair to say?
MEDINA: There's a lot, but I, but I cannot differentiate the media per se and a lot of curious people.
P. HARRIS: Oh, sure.
MEDINA: So there is hundreds.
P. HARRIS: There were literally just
hundreds of people out there?
MEDINA: Correct.
Terra Venable
VENABLE: And the 26th we were home.
GERAGOS: You were home all day?
VENABLE: Yes.
GERAGOS: Okay. What was the presence on the street like on the 26th? Did you have nothing but press and people and the, it was pretty tough to get in and out of your driveway?
VENABLE: Yeah. There was, there was a lot of press and cars and people.
Susan Medina
HARRIS: Do you, you came back on the 26th and there were, I assume you were somewhat surprised to find your street lined up with media trucks and police officers and so forth; is that right?
MEDINA: Yes.
P. HARRIS: And for the most part, how long were these media trucks and the whole media conglomeration, were they there for a couple months?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: Longer than that?
MEDINA: Oh, yes.
P. HARRIS: And to the point where it was hard to even go, get out of your own driveway, is that a fair statement?
MEDINA: That's a fair statement.
P. HARRIS: There would be people literally, well, let me just ask you a question. Would you say there were more than a hundred people out there?
D. HARRIS: Objection, vague as to when.
JUDGE: Yes.
P. HARRIS: I'll rephrase it. From the time you arrived home for the first couple of weeks there were well over a hundred people in the street, media people, is that fair to say?
MEDINA: There's a lot, but I, but I cannot differentiate the media per se and a lot of curious people.
P. HARRIS: Oh, sure.
MEDINA: So there is hundreds.
P. HARRIS: There were literally just hundreds of people out there?
MEDINA: Correct.
P. HARRIS: And as you, as the weeks wore on and the months wore on there continued to be a large number of people out in the street at all times?
MEDINA: Correct.
@@aok4418 I suppose Steven Todd describing Ted Rowlands news truck and exactly where it was parked on the morning of the 26th was just a lucky guess 🥴