45] Backyard DIY Classic Sailboat Restoration | Abandon Comfort
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Why Did you sand off $600 of paint?
because it was over 10 years old.
doesn't matter that paint wasn't going anywhere, all they needed was a light sanding and a quick repaint.
Being a long time viewer of Mads on the Sail Life channel I had to laugh at your "You guys don't want to see three episodes of us sanding, no-one wants to see that!" comment. Lost count of how many episodes of "Glorious glorious sanding" I've watched over there! Moving onto my own 27 foot boat in a couple of weeks and seeing you guys downsize recently has helped me take the plunge to living on a small boat. Thanks for the inspiration and keep up the great work!
Nothing better than watching Mads sand...
Mads is the MAN! I really enjoy watching him. Between him and Andy at Boat Works Today...oh yea!
Mads needs to rename to Sanding Life
I see a lot of people telling you everything you’re doing wrong, and I don’t agree with all your choices either. I do however respect the hell out of you two for making the tough choices that are counter culture, for finding ways to simplify even more, and for standing your ground regardless of what is being blasted at you in the comments section. I hope from the bottom of my heart that these choices work well for you, and look forward to watching many more adventures from this channel. Keep it up! Semper Paratus.
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I had an outboard on a 25' Catalina sailboat. Do not go with an outboard, if you get into rough water with a short wave set, the outboard will be out of the water as much as it is in the water. Definitely a sub optimal result when you need a motor the most.
Looking forward to the progress on the EP. From some of the comments below I am reminded why I don't talk about my boats electric auxiliary online. I'm guessing not one of the negative commenters here have owned a SAILboat with an electric inboard. Please don't get discouraged.
Ryan, You are a very fortunate man to have someone love you as much as Kelsey does! You can see this by the way she looks at you, and the way you look at her too! I see this because I have been married to my amazing bride for 31 years now, and it just keeps getting better and better! Sanding is never a "fun" project, but the end result will be worth it for you. You will know that the fittings are correctly sorted, and the new paint should last for some time. I do not have an opinion on the electric vs. diesel, as I have no experience in sailing under those conditions... But I am looking forward to tagging along on your journey with you.
I ask the same question as by others below. Why remove that paint, looked like it well protected the hull, would make a good primer if you wanted to change color. I liked the red/green combo. Working to death after redoing the deck on the bigger boat.
Many bottom paints require that the boat be launched within days of painting. 12 years (or whatever it was) is asking a lot.
Anytime you acquire a new boat I think its best to get into everything so you know what youre dealing with. Imho....
No not if you are going to hard sand and redcoat! Full coating removal is required when the coating has 'failed'. Failure of coating is identified by delimitation and pealing. If this is not occurring it means the bonding between layers is strong. My opinion is if the coating has not delaminated nor pealed after 10 years, there is EXCELLENT coating bonding and so keep it on but do a hard sand to prepare the surface for the new coat. Senior Surveyor Lloyd's Register!@@CorwynGC
@@georgexio5430 I was going to ask the same question, but you answered it quite reasonably.
You don't know what's underneath the paint they could have blistering underneath and you would never know it that's why it's great to remove all the paint when you get a new boat on the bottom
I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but you should watch the last few episodes of "Sailing UMA" they just spend thousands of dollars on Lithium batteries for their boat and found out that they only get 1 and 3/4 hours running time at 5 to 6 knots speed. What if you loose your rig? What if you hit several hours or days without wind? What if you're trying to out run a storm? I like the idea of electric, but it's still needs some work as far as I'm concerned.A full tank of diesel will probably last you almost a year with that boat. I have a !GM10 Yanmar that sips a little over a pint an hour at WOT. Can't do better than that! Also, a diesel can make electricity and be used to run a high capacity bilge pump. An electric can only draw your batteries down, then what hand pump for hours offshore? You're going to go to all the work, expense and still not have a system as good as the one you have. You can keep the diesel and always add an electric outboard if you want! Sorry but I think you are crazy taking that diesel out!!! Love you channel and both of you guys, your a great hard working couple and I wish you only the best!
You make some good points, but if I remember correctly, they already removed the deisel, so it's probably a moot point. I think the danger aspect is overrated, but the bilge pump and alternator is a good point. If it were me, I would cruise for a year and collect data about how they use it, and when they do go electric, have a Honda 2k generator as a means of generating electricity just in case.
I think they plan to train couple of dolphins and put them into harnesses to help aid in propulsion :)
There diesel wasn't working, but they had bought what they thought was an exact used replacement for 3000 dollars that was originally a generator motor, which unfortunately wouldn't work for some reason.That's when they decided to switch to electric. You'll never be able to bank enough electric power to motor very far. I'd rather use that solar to power a fridge/freezer or a/c unit. The new multi-stage compressors for refrigeratioin make it possible to run on small solar systems. While a generator is a good idea, it's something else to get stolen, another fuel to carry and something else to store. I wish you the best of luck, but I just don't think that electric is the way to go yet. I'll be watching you guys as always to find out. Hope your not upset with me for being so opinionated. As for going smaller I think it's the right idea with the right boat which you have. What a great boat! You were very lucky to find her! I myself went from a 38' to a 26'. I was so much more happy with the smaller boat, less cost, easier to maintain by one person and easier to handle. Unfortunately, due to health reasons I recently had to sell my sailboat and move to a trawler I just bought a 32' Grand Banks which has 4 solar panels on it! Again, good luck!!!
@@spinnaker5514 they seem pretty stoked about it, In fact there buying a new electric motor!
We learned the hard way sand blasting a 1963 Ford Falcon 2 years ago....ALWAYS put a tarp down to collect the glass. Also.... love the T-shirt. April 29, 1992 is one of my all time favorite songs.
BrightSEALAB yup we had it all tarped up underneath! If we didn’t collect the glass it would’ve costed $200+ more for more bags. Appreciate the support 🙂
I’m anxious to see the hydroelectric application in comparison to those that I’ve seen with cities that are using today with units that are in channels, bays and rivers. Of course they are generating electricity for cities or as I have seen placing one in a small waterfall on private property, to generate power for a home. I believe you would be pioneers of this application, since I have not read or seen anyone trying this. Very smart as you sail, you would be generating power to keep the batteries charged. Can’t wait to see your proposed design and implementation.
after having owned several sailboats ..nothing is better than a small Yanmar diesel for strength , reliability and economy . Get into a squall and you'll be glad you have the power to hold your own ..it can be the difference between losing the boat and getting thru the tough spots .
I'll look forward to your outboard vs inboard electric propulsion decision process. I would think an inboard would make the most sense for reliability, weight distribution and center-line thrust maximization but I'm no naval architect. I'm just a rocket scientist. So I'll be learning along with you guys!
Pros & cons for everything boat related! No stuffing box, cutlass bearing and fixed prop to slow us under sail with an outboard.
All things I wouldn't have considered. Thanks for helping educate me through your videos and experiences. Maybe I SHOULD have been a naval architect!
I have an outboard on my 27 foot Albin Vega for cruising, and I really wish that there was an inboard, as when you have choppy waves it "breathes air" to the point that I cannot use it at some angles. It might be different for your boat, as it is heavier and beamier, but I will say that having a motor to get you into a harbour even when its windy is very valuable. I am thinking of an electric inboard too, but I am not sure as I want to be able to use it in the arctic where motoring can be very important.
You already have the prop, shaft, and Cutlass why not use them. You'll just make more work for yourself taking them out. An outboard on a boat this small in even small waves will constantly be coming out of the water causing it to cavitate and over rev. Even and electric one will do this. You will loose boat speed and in the end use far more energy this way constantly working to get the boat back up to your desired speed only to have the prop come out of the water again and the boat slow. With an outboard you're also adding a 90degree gearing so you will loose more efficiency there as well. With the motor low and inside the hull and a straight prop shaft it will be much more efficient. Also you can get a prop that will best match what you need for the speed and torque you will have. On an outboard you are very restricted to the size and shape of the prop you can use. Listen to the guy with the boat 5ft bigger than yours you want it inboard. Also the motor and electronics will be much better protected inside the boat than in an out oars hanging off the stern with waves breaking over it. Also that's the exact place you don't want extra weight is in the bow and stern, it will only worsen the boats motion in the waves( Hobby Horsing). It's already not going to be super great. With the space constraints for battery and the already well documented energy needs for the run times you want, you don't want to start throwing the extra inefficiencies of an outboard in there.
The only outbaord systems I would be interested for blue water in are those small enough to pull and stow inboard after getting out of port. The others work fine until you get pooped on by a breaking wave. Then things might not go so well with em. I knew a guy who did that with a 3HP outboard on a 24' boat. It worked out very well actually for him. Nothing you are going to drive through the doldrums on but enough for most everything short short of getting into Oregon Inlet in a blow.
Having now binged watched the series so far I wish you well. My wife and I live on a 37' Irwin CC with our dog and we'll never probably get out of the pacific northwest, the real one, not just Puget Sound, but I love where you're headed with this and I look forward to your progress.
Thanks Kevin :)
I love your sailing philosophy. I often reflect on how much sailing has changed since the advent of auxiliary power and GRP construction. Those two things have allowed boats to get so bloated and complicated and sailing infrastructure (slips, marinas, etc) to change so dramatically. It wasn't long ago that boats had to be smaller, simpler, and more elegant just because they were more work to maintain. But I think in the next few years we'll see a renaissance of that kind of sailing mixed with elegant modern solutions as the economy shifts. Kudos to you guys for being the youtube ambassadors of this revolution.
WOW ...A most beautiful cruising yacht ! Unless safety issues were found initially I would go sailing with the ship I had purchased and then evaluate over time the needs of the boat and its new owners. That is a beautiful power plant and I assume significant important ballast for the design. Love your channel.
This may be too late, but as one piece of advice, if you attach a shop vac to your orbital sander you will get about 5x more life out of each sanding disk and there's A LOT less dust to breath in. Pretty much every orbital sander I've come across has an attachment for attaching a shop vac tube. Or if not, its worth buying one. Glad to see you're protecting your lungs with a respirator.
Also, your hair is looking great in that opening shot. Well done.
I love the transparency and the never quit attitude. It might be interesting for you two to consider doing seminars for people with like-minded ideals of living on the lean while on a sailboat. Looking forward to the next one.
Love that you do you, cause you do it well. Love the legacy of people’s negative comments proven extremely wrong. Proud of both of you, individually and as a couple. Keep it up!
Keep up the dream. You guys are fun to watch. Living on your own terms. I've been self employed part time for 35 years. An adventurer first. My wife and I have raised 5 brave sons. Mostly in spaces under 600 sqft. Boats, Treehouses, homemade tents, underground, in a dome, campers, cabins, converted garages, islands... i just asked my wife "what's the most unusually place where ever lived? " she just laughed at me... ;-) we are no leaving our little cabin in the woods this December and sailing to Great Exuma for 6 months? Who knows?
The day before we married, May 17, 1986, I told her "i couldn't promise her happiness, but I promise it will be an adventure." 32 years, 27 states, 4 countries, 5 kids, hundreds of animals (horses to parrots) 43 residences, , , man the list goes on, later the adventure continues.
Anyway, you guys are awesome possibilitist. What we know is so small compared to everything we don't even know we don't know, the possibilities! We love watching your discoveries. Much like those that our grown children and for wives find. Don't let others simple opinions discourage you. Keep dreaming together. We'll see you out there some day I'm sure.
I hope you guys realize that you have the world best pocket blue water cruiser monohull sailboat in the world, not to mention yours has beautiful teak decks & a beautiful wooden mast. If you guys decide to unstall an electric motor, check out the Seimens emrax motor, strongest e-motor weight to horsepower ratio. They also have solar cell panels you can walk on, I was also thinking you could put on davets to hold a dingy & mount a couple of solar panels there. Can't wait to see it finished & good luck.
My Son served in the Coast Guard around time of 9/11. went through basic at Cape May, then served in Savanna Georgia,then down on the Island of Marathon. I was hoping he would come out with a love of the Sea, But he had several health issues through motion sickness and is glad to stay on Terra Firma. Good luck in your adventure together. David.
I have a boat with an 48 volt electric motor and love it ! I have a propane generator to run through my batteries and a heck of a lot cleaner and the fuel is reliable !
Mix one part acetone and one part transmission fluid in a cheap plastic spray bottle to lubricate any metallic parts that are supposed to move next time. Works very well!
Excited to see your progress! Can't wait to see what she looks like when she's fully outfitted.
It'll take some time but we're stoked to have a virtually 100% ready to go boat set up exactly how we want before we head back out :)
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I wish you guys were making videos of your travels around the usa. I like them even more than the boat stuff.
Don't listen to the negative 10%. The other 90% love ya!
Good to see the start of the rebuild process. Media blasting is so cool and gets around the wrist issues with sanding. I look forward to the next installment. Looking for my own boat but all a lot more money at this stage.
Electric engine would be fine for a river boat but I wouldn't want one for an offside sailing vessel. The batteries don't have the range and you've got no immediate way to charge them (short of a generator which defeats the object a bit) so you could be stuck mid ocean in bad weather thats a big no no for me.. I would stick with the diesel.. And stay safe guys.
Andy Smith Especially on a river (with shores so close, and tight manoevering) I would like to have a reliable and predictable boat engine.
Normally ocean weather comes with wind, so they'd likely hve both the wind gen and hydro gen working. In the Doldrums you generally have solar. Sure, with solar you're only barely ticking the engine over but 1 knot beats no knots...
I know it's a stereotype to assume that usually these sorts of projects are the pet project of the man rather than the woman. However, I wanted to say how lovely it is that Kelsey is equally ss excited and vested in this project as Ryan. It really shows and her excitement is contagious. Huzzah!
Think you guys are more in love with restoring and rebuilding a boat than actually sailing one. Good luck with your 'new' boat.
Hey guys FYI don't use wd-40 instead use a spray call PB Blaster works fantastic great job
in my experience PB is 90% as good as Liquid Wrench. I also work on the worst of the worst and need all the help I can get thus liquid wrench...... (80+ year old equipment)
Love this debate! After 20 years working in power plants I’ve used all 3 and I’ll take Kroil over all of em. Heard an old salt call it Millwright cologne. Gotta admit the smell is unique.
with six strong college guys pulling oars on a surfboat, we could barely keep it moving, your boat is much larger, heavier, and with more windage, try doing this first on a surfboat, it will save you from some blisters.
Ignore the negative comments! You don’t need those folks. Take your time. We will be here when you are ready to return.
Thanks for your input on sandblasting vs sanding. I've gone through this process twice and have often thought about sandblasting. I just finished sanding 40 years of bottom paint off my islander 28. It took me 4 months of part time sanding.... freaking exhausting!! Next time I'll rent a sandblaster!!
Also I think your plans of going electric and using man power are both fabulous! I'm doing the same for my I-28.
Love your channel and I always look forward to seeing what you guys are up to. 👍👍
Appreciate the support, Brian! Way to get out there and actually make your dreams a reality!!
Love you guys and what you have been doing. I wish you were closer to a sailing life and hate to be critical, but I would love more episodes. Three weeks leaves me wanting and I wish you showed what you do in the downtime to supplement your work. I hope all is well. Thanks guys.
My brother in law just told me about you guys and we have been binge watching. She is a gorgeous boat, and I love the spruce mast!
Ah! The sandblasting closeups are stunning. I had to snap a few screenshots and hang them on my inspiration board. Love it. Thanks for the inspiration.
When you sand blast you have to profile blast so you don't lose your surface and what I mean is blast at a 45* angle or at a glancing blast it will make your sticking surface so much better and you won't destroy your haul
Love the time lapse...if only a bottom job went as quickly! Been there, done that. Twice.
Why remove bottom paint?
Looked pristine and boat hasn’t been in water.
Great project, look forward to seeing your improvements.
We needed to get the boat down to gelcoat to remove sea cocks & thru hulls then seal up the ones for the head & engine. Also, bottom paint is over 15 years old and we're doing coppercoat. The real stuff. Not DIY coppercoat.
Why?
Because they don't need a raw water inlet for a diesel engine they won't have, and they don't need a discharge for a marine toilet they won't have. Electric propulsion and composting head don't need these thru-hulls. And for Dan above, certain types of anti-foul paints loose their biocide ability when exposed to open air. When you paint an ablative bottom paint you need to get in the water within a day of being dry. That paint was on the hard for 10 years, it was worthless.
That doesn't answer why they needed to strip the bottom to remove some thruhulls. The paint being worthless was not the answer, since they didn't say that in the first place.
Dan Schmitz i CONCUR
I appreciate that you beasted that sanding out. It shows a lot of motivation and perseverance.
How the heck do you do it? A whole episode on sanding and we aren’t bored, not one bit! You guys are great.
It takes some guts to dive right into another boat re-fit after a short sailing season and 2 years on the hard. You’re smashing it! 😊
way to go kids and sharing these moments together builds a good relationship,cheers .
Very excited to watch this project develop. Been looking at Pearson Triton's after reading the adventures of Atom.
Really enjoying your attitudes and projects. Thanks for the content.
I love what you guys are doing. You are a true inspiration. Keep up the good work!
This boat is so "you" guys, it shows it's making you happy.
From childhood, I was raised as a dingy sailor by a father who served in the Royal Navy from 1934 until 1946. From him, I learned seamanship, not ‘boating’ or ‘yachting’. Drilled into me, as it was drilled into him by sailors who had started their careers on sailing ships: “NEVER do anything, nor enter or create a situation or circumstance which with reasonable foresight can be seen to imperil life that you can otherwise avoid or without certainty that you can prevail.” Heed the comments about the foolishness of relying on an electric motor-you are a member of the US Coast Guard; the life/lives you imperil may not just be your own. I gave it a good deal of thought before I commented. I was finally compelled when I witnessed the extraordinary effort you went to in removing the undercounting without first testing it’s soundness, without realizing that anti-fouling paint is toxic and a pollutant-particularly when combined with high-pressure water removal and no abatements for ground absorption. In short, it demonstrated a lack of necessary thought; now consider relying on electric power.
I LOVE your videos. I admire what you are doing and the partnership by which you are doing it. You have the beauty, strength and promise of two young people. Respect and value the advise that is offered to you. You might disregard the critics, but don’t dismiss the wisdom of experience and expertise of the many comments. If you do go to sea with electric propulsion, have done all that you must to know that it cannot fail you.
Wow! Listen to this lady. She is wise.
+1 on the environmental concerns associated with anti-fouling paints. The active ingredient in most AF paints are copper-based. They work because copper compounds are toxic to aquatic life. While its true that AF paints are formulated to erode over time, that erosion is slow and the environmental input is spread out over time and distance. Your paint removal strategy has created a focused impact at that location that is uncontrolled. The paint residue in the soil will be dissolved by precipitation and eventually end up in both groundwater and surface water runoff.
I applaud your desire to be conscientious about the environmental footprint you create, but this is an example of how challenging that can be. As a fellow lover of small sturdy boats, I wish you the best and look forward to your coming adventures.
Ann Teve I don’t think a mechanical failure of the electric drive is the worry but the runtime of the battery pack and the way to recharge. Which begs the question what is the minimum appropriate run time or range a responsible crew would have for non wind powered propulsion when going offshore.?
Warren
So many old time 'sail only' craft lost on the rocks and reefs because the wind blew the wrong way. Electric engines are 'green' but you won't get more than an hour or two of propulsion out of the best batteries. Having a small Diesel as a 'life saving' and 'boat saving' back-up is just good sense. It's not about 'weight saving' vs. 'no fossil fuel', it's about staying safe on the water. Come on guys, you use an auto to travel, a truck to tow and power plant electricity to work on the hull. Having a potentially life saving engine is not abandoning your desire to be 'Green', it's facing the reality of travel on the ocean. Even a decent sized outboard would be an option. I had one on every sailing vessel I've owned...
Love his shirt......
Great project
What I don't understand is why you striped off the old bottom paint. At least it looked to be in good shape...
I love where you guys get to work on your boat, it must be nice working under the pines. I really appreciate the fact that you bring us along for the ride giving us how much money and we learn a lot. Keep working, I love your channel.
I've been waiting on this!!! The start of a new project.
Best of luck with all the design changes, If you do go outboard I hope it is not as loud as the last one!!
I'll be watching your progress every step of the way. Love watching your boat DYI efforts!!
Oh, and try not to pay too much attention to the ones that will give you grief over your electric decisions. I have my own doubts but we will never know if you don't give it a try. We can all learn something.
Be safe you two.
Will be interesting to see how this all works out. A lot of strong opinions on what direction to go and can't say I agree with all there choices. I think they needed a break from filming and youtube so that is why no videos. They may have explained the break directly to patrons. I know they have been posting on Instagram about there national park trips they have been on and said they didn't plan to film it. They will be back and I wish them all the best.
Yep! Needed a break from the craziness that is youtube armchairs. We've been focusing on our other sources of income in the meantime and have been traveling without the camera gear. It's been a nice break but we'll be back again soon. People like you remind us of why we're documenting our journey :) Thanks for the support, Kinu.
Why bring the hull down to bare glass? I never did.. fun to blow your nose to see what comes out after sanding isn't it?
Except they were wearing respirators...
I've sanded plenty of bottoms with respirators you still get plenty of junk up your nose! No respirator has a perfect seal. The ones they started with always leak around the nose for me.
Never sanded the bottom of a hull so didn't know it gets everywhere...
I missed you guys!! Currently living vicariously through you.
Yep! The oars make sense while y'all are young and full of yourselves, but the reality is you will be looking for easier avenues in just a few years. Nevertheless, y'all are headed in the right direction and enjoy seeing you become what most of us would hope to be. Thank You!
IMHO without a diesel engine, you are going to have to be extra careful about anchoring and lee shores. Two famous blue water cruisers of yesteryear who sailed without any engines at all include Larry Pardey and Don Street. However, why not keep your current diesel sailboat engine for a couple of years and see how many times it gets you out of trouble (safety first). Learn to become outstanding sailors first and perhaps then think about an electric motor.
Great choice in beer. Great Lakes' main brewery is just a few blocks from where I dock my boat. I've been thinking about doing some significant amount of boating in canals and rivers (my wife is not a big fan of sailing, but she does like moving under engine power in sheltered waters). If you have any chance of spending time in canals, you may want to keep that old diesel around. To be able to run for any reasonable amount of time on narrow waterways, you'll need something other than electric. For example, to go from Lake Erie to Lake Huron requires traversing the Detroit River and the St. Clair River. The St. Clair isn't all that wide and has a 3 to 3.5 kt current. I recently did that trip and it took 6-7 hours. I know that you have a trailer, but that isn't always convenient and may be less environmentally friendly than simply having a diesel onboard. However, maybe that's a vote in favor of the electric outboard. Then you could always hang a gas outboard there if you needed to. Just something to think about.
This is going to be interesting. I want a large cruiser. But I probably will only ever have a trailer cruiser. Cant wait to see what you do
Okay, you two are, and have put out "real" videos. As an old salt, I enjoy your enthusiasm and gumption! Having crossed the deep blue, my concern is the size of your vessel. Help me understand. I can dig small spaces, but Neptune is a hearty master! Can you go over your thought process on trans Pacfic/Atlantic crossings.
Blue water sailing? Not these two greenie idiots. I want to know what are they going to grow with their compost.
Rowing a sailboat sucks, they are too heavy. Have you thought of peddle drive? Check out the boats which race to Alaska from Port Townsend WA. The R2AK. Just another option to consider. Maybe you guys would like the challenge of the R2AK race.
The sweep or rowing oars are a great idea. Lynn and Larry Pardee have sailed 2 Lady Hess cutters around the world multiple times with no engine. There is a guy sailing a Gillmer 31 on you tube without any engine, I think his channel is sailing ocean's.. Fair winds and following seas.
Well kids that was a HUGE project to finish and good on you both for sticking to it! Love this new smaller boat and look forward to viewing the next steps in it's rejuvenation, especially the electric motor install.
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Congratulations on this job. Can’t wait to see what you do to her. I have to say, I’m kinda waiting to see how you power her so I can get ideas for mine. Right now the only way I can recharge my batteries is with the engine or shore power. Thanks for sharing all you do. Peace from Allegro.
Thank you for sparing us three episodes of sanding ! Looking forward to the things that will come next !
That's unreal, how long it takes to sand a boat. Lot of work, and love that you guys get into this level of detail. Looking forward to more vids and progress on the boat! Love that you're braking all "conventioinal" thinking!
...and it was a smaller boat at that. Lots of work.
I'm curious to see how the sweeps work out. Given the depth of keel I'm a little dubious which is what makes it interesting.
It's all an experiment so we'll see. If it doesn't work, who cares we'll try something else :)
Oars, you guys are out of your minds and a outboard electric will out work for cruising, simply impossible
Looks like quite an undertaking!
I enjoy watching your adventurous attitude towards new projects and keeping such a positive outlook... Great to see you back making youtube videos..
You will row it , in obviously calm conditions no probs, a wind generator is it good idea , personally I would have a small petrol gen, as a last resort to charge battery, and always in place a light anchor at the bow to even throw, but basically to row out fast , you can always do the tiller waggle , also a permanent stern anchor for same reasons like if your getting caught with a current you didn't know was there to have already in place to put out quickly that's what makes all the difference to travelling without a motor or perhaps your batteries are depleted, but the stern anchor is also handy for pulling round you're Stern to keep your bow pointed into waves coming into a bay and can make for a more comfortable sleep .
Please look at the faces at the end of the last episode of sailing Uma after first leg in electrical modality! What a current drain! Anyway go on we all are very curious ( 4 stroke outboard spare motor like backup is the solution for extra security)
Electric is good because it makes money from the controversy. More clicks and comments= more $.
Good on you mates ...I took out my diesel too and bought 4 8’ oars ...cut in half sort of and sleeved them together and put on oarlocks and also had a Sanpan ....on my Maurice Griffith
Yeah! Let's get to the beers! Good work!
I can't wait to see the next videos and see you guys get back in the water. When I retire I want to sail 6 months of the year and RV for the other 6 months. I have much to learn, like how to sail for a start and then what boat to buy, Marine Electrical systems, water makers, solar A/C. etc..
Do a bit of Google searching to see how clean lithium refining actually is (also worth noting that one of the major motivators for the US invasion of Afghanistan was for its rich lithium deposits). You could keep that diesel and during your entire cruising life would likely never pollute as much as you have the day you buy those batteries.
Love the all electric idea.. And if worst come to worst, you could always buy one of the small 800W Inverter Generators, just in case of an emergency.. I hope all is well, and that you both have a wonderful weekend.. Peace!
If we didnt have innovation there wouldnt be progress, keep dreaming and working toward your goals. I personally enjoy seeing the progress, just discard the negativity, I would say people surprise me but thats not really true.
Sv seeker has a good video on making that type of sand blaster more reliable. Your going to run into trouble with your battery capacity and having motor range. Just because it says x amp hours doesn't mean you can pull the full charge out of the battery without damaging it.
I've used industrial sandblasters before but never one that used water as well with it. I had been wondering if it was a good idea to blast the bottom paint off or not. Blasting gets in all the nook and crannies when you do it to carbon steel but wasn't sure if it was to aggressive on fiberglass. Very cool.
So happy to hear about the rowing station.....I thought I was the only crazy one thinking of this....cheers.
I've been living on a 36 footer for 4 years now. There is something to be said for some comforts like a hot shower. If you ever really travel anywhere your gonna get awful stinky before you drown it that little weekender.
IMHO: Electricengine as a single boat propulsion is not safe. You will find yourself in a situation that can 'change' your life. There is nothing as unpredictable as the weather. Eventually you will either run aground, end up in heavy wind, seastate, current or a combination. Diesel engines are unbeatable. I myself run a 1964 2 cylinder that can be started by hand, as in without a battery if necessary , to provide propulsion and electricity. I know the engine insideout because it is simple, not because of hard study. It also is easy to repair. Choose wisely! A combination could be an ecologically/safety wise a compromise if you had the space... Excited to see what you end up with.
diesal engines break down all the time. look at Delos or Capt. Mikes recent videos.
Delos has pretty much circumnavigated the world and even wore out the generator and they motor for days on end . Try that with batteries . I also see them having issues with all the electrics , from the windless to the furling to the heads , to fans - electric is not problem free.
My single cylinder Bukh can easily be started by hand , run without electricity , charge the batteries and has a range measured in days . Because I don't wait for things like impellers to break I have never had a problem that stopped the motor . Did have the electric shut of go bad though .
PEOPLES! They will be back! It's a Fact, we viewers/subbs are the Main $ource of their
$ailing revenue. Viewers = $ubbs = Patrons = Revenue = $ailboats & $ailing. Cut out any one piece of the equation & it all falls apart!! Unless of course they have decided to foot the cost of their sailing themselves. I DON'T SEE THAT EVER HAPPENING!! They will be back!!! To much easy & instant success on their channel. Apparently has lead to them to believe, their viewers/subbs, should not have the ability to ask question they don't like & or disagree with!? This channel has been a "MONEY MAKER" from the get go! It would take one HUGE EGO to allow this $$$ tree to be cut down!? Not going to happen. They will be back. Never Forget. It is the viewers that make any & every channel successful!
Sorry but you have no clue what you are talking about. If money was our motive, we'd be cranking out episodes once a week. No episodes = no money. We've been focusing on our other sources of income that make us happier. It's a shame we share our most intimate financial details and show you everything that no other channel does, yet we still deal with people like you.
@@AbandonComfort i think you guys would walk away from youtube in a heart beat if you felt like it. You give way more than you get. From a buisness point of view you have proven that greed is not there. Choosing to follow youre morals will always be the best choice.
Some people just love a fail. But from what i have seen there is no fail its been a win.
On the next Abandon Sanding... We sand. lol
Glorious sanding!
Is this the end of this channel ?
Liked the hat, Sta. Cape May, Station New York in the house!
Speaking of the engine topic, what about during a storm and running out of power? Do you have any other recharging ability, backup generator?
"Might" is the operative word, but doubtful. Faster boat yea sure, but sailboat even with diesel engine is unlikely. Simply does not go fast enough as most storms go faster, nor are tracks of storms always predictable. I do agree though it you lose mast, having engine if it still runs would be nice.
What? How is flammable engine such as diesel less likely to cause boat to burn than lithium battery. Do a search of how many boats have burned, you will finds lots and mostly due to diesel engine or bad wiring. Do search for boats burning from lithium battery and you will find none.
Lithium ion batteries are sealed, only way water would get to it if its punctured. Even than it only sometimes might start a fire. I would worry more about it overheating before it getting punctured, and even that is rare on boat. But more importantly you do realize there are many types of lithium batteries and each has totally different properties. I would suspect AC are not looking at lithium ion ... but I could be wrong. If I were a gambling man I would put my money on LiFePo4 and those are one safest batteries you can get.
Meh I do not know, what I do know is you can find lots of boats burning up due to engine exploding and can not find any due to lithium ion batteries. You mean like water pump disintegrating which is one I found. Most of them simply say engine fire but not cause of why engine caught fire (of course most of them sank). But what about this one and what was cause of it, was not due to heat or vapors since it is out in open outside ua-cam.com/video/lbcFViTqrtg/v-deo.html something spark and igniting fuel?
Well yea and that is pretty much same for gas (petrol) too, it is vapors in enclosed space that is more combustible, but that was not the point. The claim was that diesel will be harder to set boat on fire, unlike lithium ion battery allegedly would. Reality does not show that, as unable to find any, nor is it very likely to be punctured for that to happen. Most battery banks for electric engine might add what maybe couple more battery cables if any (depending on scenario and boaters setup).
I will admit there are I am sure ton more diesel engine sailboats around than sailboats with lithium ion batteries, so yes by default there will be more likely chances of seeing boats burning from diesel engine. Just the odds. If and as lithium ion battery become more popular, only time will tell. Anyway debate might all be pointless if they use some other type of lithium battery, like maybe even much safer lithium type and much greener.
Abandon Rational
Well, it's about time. I've been wondering what you guys were up to. Is this the unsolicited advice/criticism section? Great, here goes... That's quite a woman you've got there, congratulations. I didn't see her check her nails once and she clearly works with you. You can't put a value on that kind of commitment from your partner. Not sure why youre so concerned about weight, its a heavy little boat anyway, maybe its because you going electric, solar panels weigh nothing. Youre engine ideas and commitment to your plan have really made me think. Oars are a really great, traditional idea. I had a 25 foot folk boat for years that never had an engine of any kind. I had one oar and I used to scull around if needed (not very often). It makes you a good sailor as long as you don't bite off more than you can chew. More power to you. Ditch the mechanical/electrical propulsion all together? Use the money for beer and condoms instead
Why not use dynema for the life lines, if you’re concerned about weight?
Thanks for sharing. Interesting choices in regards to powering the boat. I think its great that you guys have a small generator as backup. I would also recommend a small yamaha 9.9 outboard that can be shared with the dingy as a backup. make a mount point so you don't have to tow with the dingy. Now to find myself a $3k pocket cruiser to fixup.
PB blaster is the only way to go for rusted And corroded marine parts. Heat works well too
So much for weekly videos! It's been almost 2 months since a new video was published. Them kids must have broke up and moved on.
You guys are huge inspiration to me . That's a lot of hard work, wish you luck for the project. Truly love you guys.
So glad to finally get a video from you guys, after I've been checking daily for 3 weeks xD. But now I know why it took so long... Thanks for taking us along for the ride, and thank you for all your honesty and bringing the reality to you vids. Love you guys, keep up the awesome work!!!!
Can’t wait to see you guys get this thing splashed, you are obviously working hard on her. I applaud your determination to go electric on the propulsion, though I don’t think you’ll be able to motor much. You should check out another UA-cam channel, “How to Sail Oceans’ - Kevin has sailed his boat for years with no engine at all, just a large sculling oar. He also uses his dinghy/outboard tied alongside to power in a pinch. Good luck & keep at it...
You two make a good team, because you are going for the same goal ,well done ! Can't wait to see what it looks like when your finished !
Absolutely gorgeous boat!!!