I will never forget the day my son was in 3rd grade & came home from his predominantly white school and told me white women were the most beautiful and black women are tricks. I was so angry and hurt. I could not believe those words came out of my son's mouth. It took everything in me not to go to that school and ask who was brainwashing him. I yelled at him, my brother yelled at him, my dad (pastor) talked to him. I told him they want your color, they want your lips, & they want your athletic ability. Always remember that they fear you. They will try to break you. Your family is full of beautiful colors. Me: Is your mama a trick? Son: no Is your sister a trick? Son: no Me: we're black. Don't you ever come in my house or anyone else's house with that bullshit! I mean it! Go to your room and watch Mississippi Burning and Roots!
Maria Graves thank you for sharing your story but You can’t be mad at him for a situation that you put him into. Colourism, The system of racism white supremacy and greatness of Africans throughout the diaspora and the continent is a topic you should’ve been schooling him up on as soon as
I would like to hear the perspective of a guy or two of a different hue. In my experience, the light skin brothers are LESS bias about color than than dark skin men.
@Millinial Picasso Darling, You are right.. BUT I don't want a LOT of men... I wanted ONE husband...I got him... I am medium complexion, NOT light skinned, and I've never hsd a complex because my FATHER always told me how beautiful I was... I simply believed him...
Kay slay all people who descend from people that have been colonised and in slaved need medication for their #Post-TraumaticSlaveSyndrome and colonial mentality That medication is knowledge of self, knowledge of the systemic racism white supremacist patriarchy we live in.
Height preferences did not originate from WS. Colorism is not just a preference. It is self hatred. The closer you are to the EUROPEAN look, the more desirable you are suppise to be. The sad thing is, some BP don't even know why.
I never suffered from insecurity... Black fathers, simply tell your daughters how beautiful they are, admire their beauty, all the time and they will feel confident no matter what the world throws at them... I went to an all-white school for years, NEVER got any attention until I left school... I KNEW it would happen.. Be cause my DAD told me i was beautiful...
It is okay to have a preference, but look for someone who love people and will love you. Black people are all "black" so I don't see why this "MIND TRICK OF SATIN" is still being discussed. This started in slavery, but blacks today have more important issues to worry about than to be some what racist within the culture. If someone doesn't want you because of your complexion or you don't live up to their standards, you don't need them anyway.
Im a dark sista and proud of it. i dont hate light skin men. My family is lightest to the darkest. Hating light skin people would be like hating half my ancestors. but, ill say this, light guy that i have dated, felt that he was better than i. As if he was doing me a favor, while dating me. i had to throw him to the curb, with the rest of the garbage. Love starts with u. if i had insecurities about my skin color, i would feel that this is what love should feel like, and i should be a buck dancing nigga and be happy this light man gave the time of day. Pls, im the queen, i love my dark skin. i know that he was the one with serious issues. i ve taught my kids to love the skin their in. i find that education is the key, it separates reality from the BS.
As a light skinned guy, I personally prefer brown to dark and dark to light skinned women. I sooner date a White women then date another Black person with my complexion. It may sound weird, but think about it, how many light skinned couples do you see? Like myself, all the light skinned people I know had one dark or brown parent. In the Black American community, light skinned pairings are the rarest, which means statistically, we choose to choose from a smaller pool because we don't really date our "own". Maybe this is do to social programming or the dynamic I grew up with. Maybe other Blacks feel if light skinned people paired off as often as dark skinned people do as a norm, it would limit their access to us in some weird color-ism bullshit kind of way. So much for privileged as far as dating is concerned, especially for light skinned men.
@@Sigmanovar I'm a dark skin woman and I've always preferred men who have my skin shade, but many of them tend to prefer light/mixed race, Latina or white women. I'm currently dating a white guy. Even though he is not my preference, he's a nice guy who seems to really like me.
The brother in the white shirt an understanding the origin and psychology of WS and how it currently affects the black commumity. He also has the ability to think critically.
raising up in life as a young black boy with to dark skin sisters i would notice w somebody like Beyonce would be on t.v performing my sister's would be dancing singing her songs but at the same time they would be talking mad shit about her and i raised watching black w going straight to a lighter men but I never felt bad about that it was their choice which had nothing to do w me as a darker man
SAY IT LOUD...UM BLACK AND UM PROUD...PERSONALITY IS EVERYTHING!!! To end a lot of the colorism prejudice start with how we honor our children in the home regardless of how the outside world see them.
black people we need to stop talking about skin and fine something that is positive to talk about , black people will always get know respect from white , dark skin brown skin it doesn't matter to them ,
I'm midnight black ;; always loved women that's pretty as a ' moon lit lake ' I have a program ready to launch for ' melanous ' women " Majestic Mahogany ' holla if you hear me.
This is pathetic. Dark skin men discriminating against dark skin women is a sign of self hate. You are dark because both your parents are dark, so it's like saying you hate your parents and therefore hate yourself. The one guy said "What you would fuck is so broad" and talking about "thirst missions". That is some scary shit. Now I see why BM get talked about so negatively.
It seems beating up on and hating homosexuals is the popular thing for black people to do. Stop speaking on homosexuals until you educate yourself on the issues we face on a daily basis. The vast majority of homosexuals are masculine. Employers don't know every black man's sexual preference before they hire them nor does that factor into their decision to hire them. Homosexual face far more discrimination in workforce, especially jobs working with children they rarely ever get hired for. Homosexuals face twice as much discrimination being a double minority then heterosexual black men face so spare me with this bullshit notion that we somehow have it easier in corporate America. Wear black before we're gay
I’m very light skinned, and I looked for the darkest man to married too. He’s African and I love it. I’ve just always been attracted to dark skinned men.
Certain ethnic backgrounds have certain characteristic traits. Black men they have a certain characteristic trait that others don't which I absolutely love. With love....
Well I would take Idris Elba or Channing Tatum any day, so preferences have to all match up to be even considered. Idris and Channing are both tall attractive and have a sexy, endearing lovely personality ... if any of those things were missing, my preferences would change. I don't think having preference for a skin complexion is bad and it doesn't make you racist either... you can like medium brown men..not light not dark...nothing wrong with that. what is bad and makes you racist is hating everyone that is that color like also not being friends with them or socializing... not just the fact that you are not attracted to them... you can't force yourself to be attracted to someone you are JUST NOT ATTRACTED TO. I would date a very dark skin man like IDRIS as long as he is also tall and has an enticing voice.. I would date a fair skin man if he is tall and has an enticing voice. I definitely would not date a guy no matter what if he was shorter than me or had a feminine voice. I'm attracted to tall dark and handsome with a voice to match.. also tall light and handsome. people get caught up in color when discussing preference like it's bad... it's no different than not dating obese people because you like fit people ... you are not a bodyshamer just because your not attracted to a 400lb person... you are not a self-hater or racist because you are not attracted to a certain skin color. You are not bad because you are not attracted to big feet or big ears or big foreheads or big heads. you literally can not force yourself to instantly be attracted to someone you are not.... appearance is the first step.
I will never forget the day my son was in 3rd grade & came home from his predominantly white school and told me white women were the most beautiful and black women are tricks. I was so angry and hurt. I could not believe those words came out of my son's mouth. It took everything in me not to go to that school and ask who was brainwashing him. I yelled at him, my brother yelled at him, my dad (pastor) talked to him. I told him they want your color, they want your lips, & they want your athletic ability. Always remember that they fear you. They will try to break you. Your family is full of beautiful colors. Me: Is your mama a trick?
Son: no
Is your sister a trick?
Son: no
Me: we're black.
Don't you ever come in my house or anyone else's house with that bullshit! I mean it! Go to your room and watch Mississippi Burning and Roots!
Maria Graves every body talked to him but the one that matters, or should matter..mmmmm i wonder when the wheel fell off The wagon.
roadrunnerz what do you mean everyone but who matters?
soul sessions tv Bdhrh His dad chose not to be in his life!!!!! So, No!
That's the issue!
Maria Graves thank you for sharing your story but You can’t be mad at him for a situation that you put him into.
Colourism, The system of racism white supremacy and greatness of Africans throughout the diaspora and the continent is a topic you should’ve been schooling him up on as soon as
I AM DARK SKIN BLACK PROUD AND BEAUTIFUL
Lyle Wells Yes, me too!
IM FUCING ALIEN NIGGA
And keep saying that - because it is True!!!
If you are dark skin and don't like dark skin it is not preference it is self hate.
Vivian S the definition of SELF hate is to hate oneself. Who ever a person chooses to date has nothing to do with how they see themselves smh
The Real Evvonne keep telling yourself that.
Vivian S 100% true
Vivian S but if you intently seek something opposite of you means you don't like what u see in mirror
Agree Lyle Well.
I would like to hear the perspective of a guy or two of a different hue. In my experience, the light skin brothers are LESS bias about color than than dark skin men.
Dorcas Whitaker I totally agree with you
i LIKE WHO LIKES ME, because that person clear;y has exceptional taste. lol
Arlene Davis u go girl u r beautiful too
100%... As a woman, I've never felt it was my responsibility to pursue a man...
@Millinial Picasso Darling, You are right..
BUT I don't want a LOT of men...
I wanted ONE husband...I got him...
I am medium complexion, NOT light skinned, and I've never hsd a complex because my FATHER always told me how beautiful I was... I simply believed him...
Yassssss that's right ✅
35:30 I'm glad you made this point. None of these divisive tactics would work if we as individuals in our community didn't allow them to.
people like to used "preference" as their excuse...just know, your preference is rooted in colorism, "bro".
Lisa Dacres period!!!!
great convo. it's all about the personality/vibe to me no matter how light or dark the complexion is, as long as he is black. 😋
Everything Y'all said was 100% true... Great video 👍🏾‼️
The guy in the middle is very socially aware and intelligent.
Yes he is
Americans need medication.
Kay slay all people who descend from people that have been colonised and in slaved need medication for their #Post-TraumaticSlaveSyndrome and colonial mentality
That medication is knowledge of self, knowledge of the systemic racism white supremacist patriarchy we live in.
The guy w/the du-rag (Ed?) is my fav. commentator. Very wise-Thx. for the video!
nahoga i totally agree that brother is sharp!
Why are you brothas having this conversation with NO yellahz in the mix?
Mister Cakeman exactly they’re all dark. They missed a trick
Height preferences did not originate from WS. Colorism is not just a preference. It is self hatred. The closer you are to the EUROPEAN look, the more desirable you are suppise to be. The sad thing is, some BP don't even know why.
Dorcas Whitaker Thank you 💯
I never suffered from insecurity...
Black fathers, simply tell your daughters how beautiful they are, admire their beauty, all the time and they will feel confident no matter what the world throws at them...
I went to an all-white school for years, NEVER got any attention until I left school...
I KNEW it would happen..
Be cause my DAD told me i was beautiful...
so papi with the durag is the only one with any sense & maturity on this panel. and he is obviously the youngest. what a king. lol
The guy in the middle is so smart
It is okay to have a preference, but look for someone who love people and will love you. Black people are all "black" so I don't see why this "MIND TRICK OF SATIN" is still being discussed. This started in slavery, but blacks today have more important issues to worry about than to be some what racist within the culture. If someone doesn't want you because of your complexion or you don't live up to their standards, you don't need them anyway.
I love Dark Skin Women
Im a dark sista and proud of it. i dont hate light skin men. My family is lightest to the darkest. Hating light skin people would be like hating half my ancestors. but, ill say this, light guy that i have dated, felt that he was better than i. As if he was doing me a favor, while dating me. i had to throw him to the curb, with the rest of the garbage. Love starts with u. if i had insecurities about my skin color, i would feel that this is what love should feel like, and i should be a buck dancing nigga and be happy this light man gave the time of day. Pls, im the queen, i love my dark skin. i know that he was the one with serious issues. i ve taught my kids to love the skin their in. i find that education is the key, it separates reality from the BS.
Wanting to create children that is opposite of ones self is indicative of self hate. SAD
Dorcas Whitaker you have to speak for self lady
Bra w the cutz shirt on his way of thinking is sexy he was on point and honest
How can you have a discussion about light skin vs dark skin without any light skin people present?
Great video intelligence at its best
The man with the purple cap says " my cousin married an african " ........ ARE WE ALL NOT DESCENDANTS OF AFRICA
Yea that kind of annoyed me like bro 😒
As a light skinned guy, I personally prefer brown to dark and dark to light skinned women. I sooner date a White women then date another Black person with my complexion. It may sound weird, but think about it, how many light skinned couples do you see? Like myself, all the light skinned people I know had one dark or brown parent. In the Black American community, light skinned pairings are the rarest, which means statistically, we choose to choose from a smaller pool because we don't really date our "own". Maybe this is do to social programming or the dynamic I grew up with. Maybe other Blacks feel if light skinned people paired off as often as dark skinned people do as a norm, it would limit their access to us in some weird color-ism bullshit kind of way. So much for privileged as far as dating is concerned, especially for light skinned men.
It's because dark skinned men are heavily promoted in the media, even in porn.
As a light skin men I prefer latinas,I don't care for light skin or darkskin women
@@Sigmanovar I'm a dark skin woman and I've always preferred men who have my skin shade, but many of them tend to prefer light/mixed race, Latina or white women. I'm currently dating a white guy. Even though he is not my preference, he's a nice guy who seems to really like me.
Great video. So informative and TRUTHFUL. Thanks
5:58 I hate when guys would say that. it's almost the same like "Oh you're pretty for a dark skin girl"
The brother in the white shirt an understanding the origin and psychology of WS and how it currently affects the black commumity. He also has the ability to think critically.
Also can yall do videos on good business investments.
😅🤗😃😶 Intelligent conversation.... Great job!
You end up with light skinned women because LSW prefer DSM and vice versa at the present time..
Man, as I dark skinned sister I would love to have guys like yaw as my homies and as a man..Aside from the use of the word bitches casually.
raising up in life as a young black boy with to dark skin sisters i would notice w somebody like Beyonce would be on t.v performing my sister's would be dancing singing her songs but at the same time they would be talking mad shit about her and i raised watching black w going straight to a lighter men but I never felt bad about that it was their choice which had nothing to do w me as a darker man
Great to hear an honest discussion on the topic from the perspective of Men.
I enjoy this forum guys but can the guy with the ipad chill with referring to women as bitches so casually?
I'm light complexion I get treated better by darker complexion women
"look at that rainbow ass"
hell nah
SAY IT LOUD...UM BLACK AND UM PROUD...PERSONALITY IS EVERYTHING!!! To end a lot of the colorism prejudice start with how we honor our children in the home regardless of how the outside world see them.
black people we need to stop talking about skin and fine something that is positive to talk about , black people will always get know respect from white , dark skin brown skin it doesn't matter to them ,
I'm midnight black ;; always loved women that's pretty as a ' moon lit lake '
I have a program ready to launch for ' melanous ' women " Majestic Mahogany ' holla if you hear me.
Who is that middle guy?! Yes!!!!
This is pathetic. Dark skin men discriminating against dark skin women is a sign of self hate. You are dark because both your parents are dark, so it's like saying you hate your parents and therefore hate yourself.
The one guy said "What you would fuck is so broad" and talking about "thirst missions".
That is some scary shit. Now I see why BM get talked about so negatively.
Am Lightskin BIAAATTTCHHHH😂
Hey brothers I just want to say thank you for being brave enough to have this conversation.
I see u with da webuyblack shirt
It seems beating up on and hating homosexuals is the popular thing for black people to do. Stop speaking on homosexuals until you educate yourself on the issues we face on a daily basis. The vast majority of homosexuals are masculine. Employers don't know every black man's sexual preference before they hire them nor does that factor into their decision to hire them. Homosexual face far more discrimination in workforce, especially jobs working with children they rarely ever get hired for. Homosexuals face twice as much discrimination being a double minority then heterosexual black men face so spare me with this bullshit notion that we somehow have it easier in corporate America. Wear black before we're gay
I KNOW I'M NOT A BLACK MAN, BUT, COULD YOU DO A DARK SKIN WOMAN ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS TO DARK SKIN MAN ROUND TABLE? BUT LET ME PICK THE WOMEN.
You guys are a fool
The gay preference over light skin on job search. Never heard that ( I'm 67 ) you guys are so on point.
What does color have to do with it?!?!
I’m very light skinned, and I looked for the darkest man to married too. He’s African and I love it. I’ve just always been attracted to dark skinned men.
opposites attract,,I like darkskin to brownskin women,...
I am a dark skin African man and I love dark skin women but it's very rare to find a dark skin woman with a good attitude.
Okuny Ujulu where do u surround yourself by who
That's a very good question. well, as a simple human being it doesn't matter by who as long as I follow my heart.
Okuny Ujulu please elaborate
Don't worry about elaborating my dear sister Lyle we know how we are and we behave.
lyle wells, I just really want to meet u one day one time coz it seems like u so worried about our conversation.
The broke wrist hand shake 😂😂😂
Certain ethnic backgrounds have certain characteristic traits. Black men they have a certain characteristic trait that others don't which I absolutely love. With love....
Y-A-W-N!!!!😫😩😫
y pass up Michelle Obama
💕💕
You said marry to an African! like is a negative thing... lol!
How tf did you get that from what he said. You sound dumb af, there’s people in africa lighter than majority of African Americans
Yasssssss
Well I would take Idris Elba or Channing Tatum any day, so preferences have to all match up to be even considered. Idris and Channing are both tall attractive and have a sexy, endearing lovely personality ... if any of those things were missing, my preferences would change. I don't think having preference for a skin complexion is bad and it doesn't make you racist either... you can like medium brown men..not light not dark...nothing wrong with that. what is bad and makes you racist is hating everyone that is that color like also not being friends with them or socializing... not just the fact that you are not attracted to them... you can't force yourself to be attracted to someone you are JUST NOT ATTRACTED TO. I would date a very dark skin man like IDRIS as long as he is also tall and has an enticing voice.. I would date a fair skin man if he is tall and has an enticing voice. I definitely would not date a guy no matter what if he was shorter than me or had a feminine voice. I'm attracted to tall dark and handsome with a voice to match.. also tall light and handsome. people get caught up in color when discussing preference like it's bad... it's no different than not dating obese people because you like fit people ... you are not a bodyshamer just because your not attracted to a 400lb person... you are not a self-hater or racist because you are not attracted to a certain skin color. You are not bad because you are not attracted to big feet or big ears or big foreheads or big heads. you literally can not force yourself to instantly be attracted to someone you are not.... appearance is the first step.
brain washed