So, Smash Summit 12 happened.

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
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    It’s the most wonderful time of the year for Melee fans. Smash Summit returned this holiday season with its 12th installment, and with it came amazing play, amazing skits, and Tim, who does the spin with Link.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 356

  • @emmbeesea
    @emmbeesea 2 роки тому +332

    I'm shocked Wizzy's invisible techchase wasn't at least an honourable mention.
    Still a good highlight recap. Long live Melee.

    • @sharsasuke01
      @sharsasuke01 2 роки тому

      Invisible techchase?

    • @Gabriel-sd1oh
      @Gabriel-sd1oh 2 роки тому +22

      @@sharsasuke01 techchasing a fox with cloaking device

    • @sharsasuke01
      @sharsasuke01 2 роки тому

      @@Gabriel-sd1oh Which set?

    • @defibillytor6639
      @defibillytor6639 2 роки тому +1

      Please someone please link please

    • @emmbeesea
      @emmbeesea 2 роки тому +26

      Go to 31:14 here: ua-cam.com/video/EVRJwwO1snY/v-deo.html

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 2 роки тому +325

    Hearing how good aMSa's English has gotten honestly makes me tear up a lil. So happy for his move to Canada, can't wait to see how much he levels up in 2022!

    • @perturbo4253
      @perturbo4253 2 роки тому +13

      He's moving to Canada? That's so pog. Where did you hear this amazing news?

    • @NotADegenerate
      @NotADegenerate 2 роки тому +3

      He moved to Canada?? That’s sick

    • @gnardawgyt
      @gnardawgyt 2 роки тому

      @@NotADegenerate Yep, he sure is!

    • @gnardawgyt
      @gnardawgyt 2 роки тому +4

      @@perturbo4253 The Radio Melee podcast and Toph's UA-cam channel

    • @perturbo4253
      @perturbo4253 2 роки тому +14

      @@gnardawgyt that's so sick. Can't wait for the day he wins one finally. Would be just as hype as Axe's wins a couple of years ago

  • @Ludvix
    @Ludvix 2 роки тому +68

    Photoshopped cody can’t hurt you

  • @DelanHaar6
    @DelanHaar6 2 роки тому +138

    I love that iBDW is finally seeing tournament results that reflect his personal journey. The words he had to say right after the Leffen set were great to hear. His worth wasn't tied to his performance.

  • @neophyte_tpk
    @neophyte_tpk 2 роки тому +114

    Kodorin popping off after pressing down and A exactly nine times is probably the most marth thing I've seen all day

  • @Mister_Clean
    @Mister_Clean 2 роки тому +100

    Amsa has been putting in some serious work. I'd love to see another major Yoshi win from him.

  • @timcrnkovich4326
    @timcrnkovich4326 2 роки тому +50

    "-and with amouranths approval" got me chuckling I will admit

    • @lucasvca
      @lucasvca 2 роки тому +1

      Care to explain? I'm totally out of the loop on that

    • @timcrnkovich4326
      @timcrnkovich4326 2 роки тому +3

      @@lucasvca oh idk if it's an inside joke I just remember when I originally saw it and it made me laugh that someone as big as amouranth was congratulating ibdw

    • @coneg2714
      @coneg2714 2 роки тому +17

      @@lucasvca iBDW was watching a tournament shortly before Summit on stream and someone in chat peer pressured him into betting between Hbox and someone else in a match; loser had to donate to Amouranth. Not only did iBDW lose the bet, but then that chat member donated to her as well to have her write iBDW's full name on her. His donation message has been a copypasta as well, he's got a video on his UA-cam channel that goes through it all.

    • @maiguelguti6818
      @maiguelguti6818 2 роки тому +15

      Hi Amouranth, its me Cody "iBDW" Schwab. Professional smasher and friend of mang0. I love the stream, uwu. Keep it up!

    • @maiguelguti6818
      @maiguelguti6818 2 роки тому +3

      @@lucasvca Context: ua-cam.com/video/zE5eq2I--20/v-deo.html

  • @Jazardly
    @Jazardly 2 роки тому +34

    Hungrybox co-commentating with Leffen was neat

    • @brandonsolis6911
      @brandonsolis6911 2 роки тому +1

      They had surprisingly good chemistry lol

    • @B463L
      @B463L 2 роки тому +5

      Free Hax

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +3

      @@B463L Had got himself booted

    • @dogsneezer259
      @dogsneezer259 2 роки тому

      Yo what sets?

  • @UrMuddur
    @UrMuddur 2 роки тому +16

    The invisible rest and invisible Wizzy tech chase were 2 of my favs. Loved the items addition to this year’s summit

  • @eftorq
    @eftorq 2 роки тому +29

    Huge props to Cody. He saw through Mango that it could be done and put his head down and practiced. Picking fd versus Zain shows that you’ve put in the work

  • @seanathan1
    @seanathan1 2 роки тому +29

    I always see your signature written as hafu in a weird way for some reason

  • @BigDeac
    @BigDeac 2 роки тому +43

    Swift and Magi really stole the show for me. Magi had flashes of being the best falco not named mango. So excited for the future of melee!

    • @r_bear
      @r_bear 2 роки тому +13

      Magi is Mang0's Daughter

    • @puellapurin
      @puellapurin 2 роки тому +3

      @@user-ox3ov2qt5o you got a problem?

    • @Thierce
      @Thierce 2 роки тому +1

      @@puellapurin they probably put in in quotation marks because Magi and Mang0 are not actually relate ;)

  • @VictoryStar16
    @VictoryStar16 2 роки тому +29

    Cody with the Smash Summit trophy??
    He do be doin work tho ngl 😳😳

  • @dustinkaiser3940
    @dustinkaiser3940 2 роки тому +5

    Fantastic video. Loved the run from ibdw but love the way this was put together. So much research done as well. Truly enjoyed watching until the very end

  • @sierradeltaNL
    @sierradeltaNL 2 роки тому +8

    One of my favorite moments was Leffen's return. He really still got it, even after missing out on 2 years of competition and not being able to travel!

  • @arJunebugSmash
    @arJunebugSmash 2 роки тому +23

    he do be doin work tho

  • @tabley1873
    @tabley1873 2 роки тому +2

    So happy I saw all this live! Great melee all around and certainly one of the most interesting tournaments to watch

  • @Efretpkk
    @Efretpkk 2 роки тому +6

    The short with time travelling mango was amazing

  • @rumpleforeskin6998
    @rumpleforeskin6998 2 роки тому +16

    As much as I wanted aMSa to win, the iBDW win felt just as good. Absolutely sick Summit once again.

  • @Flamingpaperbag
    @Flamingpaperbag 2 роки тому +3

    5:12 Wizzrod with the nutty sdi as always

  • @matthewstreet845
    @matthewstreet845 2 роки тому +5

    You legit might have one of the best voices in esports

  • @KasranFox
    @KasranFox 2 роки тому +8

    i forgot what the name of this show was and thought a JV5 happened at smash summit 12

  • @brandonsolis6911
    @brandonsolis6911 2 роки тому +3

    The cheat beating Hugo was the highlight of the side events to me. Also shoutout to spark and Luckys 10 game GF in the VIP bracket

  • @jmtokx
    @jmtokx 2 роки тому

    just wanted to say ive appreciated everytime you use directions as the backing for your videos, love that album

  • @zekeciavarini1833
    @zekeciavarini1833 2 роки тому +2

    The chad cody thumbnail is everything.

  • @sukidable
    @sukidable 2 роки тому +33

    Met Magi at holiday matsuri on Sunday, she's super chill and I was definitely surprised even though I knew smash world tour was like 10 minutes away lol

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +3

      She seems chill af

    • @plumebrisee6206
      @plumebrisee6206 2 роки тому +2

      He*

    • @sg2126
      @sg2126 Рік тому

      @@plumebrisee6206say that to her face

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid 2 роки тому +1

    I've been watching since before you had the tdfw logo, and you wouldn't believe how long it took me to realize it wasn't just some arrangement of squiggly lines and what it's supposed to mean.

  • @Lazypackmule
    @Lazypackmule 2 роки тому +5

    "first woman to ever top 8 a supermajor"
    Others are laughing because that statement is missing some important qualifiers
    I am laughing because I am a misogynist and this is a low key dunk on women
    We are not the same

  • @dragonleo_lemon7184
    @dragonleo_lemon7184 2 роки тому +3

    so happy for cody and magi

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 2 роки тому +13

    Shoutout to Amouranth shouting out iBDW

    • @Shnergen91
      @Shnergen91 2 роки тому +5

      Shoutout to MetroYeti shouting out Amouranth shouting out IBDW

    • @bobroctopus2210
      @bobroctopus2210 2 роки тому +3

      @@Shnergen91 shoutout to Shnergen91 shouting out MetroYeti shouting out Amouranth shouting out iBDW

  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 2 роки тому +2

    I think SFAT's play deserves a mention beause I have not seen him play this clean in years. Sadly he didin't bring it into the main bracket, but he was destroying people in the group stage

  • @sheridan5175
    @sheridan5175 2 роки тому +4

    Amsa is far too pure for this world omg

  • @Sam-cd9xr
    @Sam-cd9xr 2 роки тому +13

    Summit 12 was so good but it was heartbreaking to see leffen getting reversed 3-0s twice

    • @herrojason
      @herrojason 2 роки тому +3

      three times over the weekend.

  • @alexfinck4637
    @alexfinck4637 2 роки тому +8

    And with Amouranth's approval LOL

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 2 роки тому +10

    Loved everything about the video, EXCEPT we all know to never trust Blur's opinion.

    • @deep_cuts2019
      @deep_cuts2019 2 роки тому +2

      When you agree with a real Blur take, you’ll know it

  • @JPlumsIX
    @JPlumsIX 2 роки тому +6

    mate mate

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +1

      Those ads scare ne

  • @leoluster01
    @leoluster01 2 роки тому +2

    Your conent is sooooo clean! keep it up bro !

  • @ThevenimX
    @ThevenimX 2 роки тому +1

    cant forget the stare in the Leffen set

  • @Thehijosh
    @Thehijosh 2 роки тому +34

    Let's go Magi :)

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +1

      She’s so hype

  • @gabrielcastejon7914
    @gabrielcastejon7914 2 роки тому +2

    the editing in this is quality

  • @momo_11o9
    @momo_11o9 2 роки тому +2

    well done as always, walt man.

  • @TheBCE
    @TheBCE 2 роки тому +25

    No mention of Magi’s dominant performance in Wheel of Bullshit?

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому

      Missed opportunity

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 2 роки тому +1

      I loved how little of her run involved actual game play. They really gotta bring that side event back next time.

  • @king3d757
    @king3d757 2 роки тому +4

    lets go jv5

  • @lewisbirkett4428
    @lewisbirkett4428 2 роки тому +4

    I'm sad zain flopped halfway main bracket and leffen came so close on his last game sets to lose

  • @ramdamdam1402
    @ramdamdam1402 2 роки тому +2

    First "woman" in top 8

  • @uiripriest298
    @uiripriest298 2 роки тому +6

    honestly convinced ibdw was on Adderall (dont worry guys its prescribed)

    • @nbdxSkywalker
      @nbdxSkywalker 2 роки тому +2

      You don’t wanna kno the half of it.
      There is an EXTREMELY high rate of abuse of drugs in the melee community and it’s almost encouraged tbh. Not by anyone of the top 100 but I know people in the top 100 who have abused ads.
      It’s almost like baseball/football or ufc/bodybuilding.
      Aaron Hernandez was being juiced up before every game so that the pain he felt from the hits wouldn’t hurt as badly. It was incredibly illegal iirc. Anyway, he was a kid and someone told him that this one thing might could make u better.
      The point is that if u take the addy just admit it and don’t pretend to be something u ain’t ya lil sissy bitch “I been doing work”. Look Man U got a nice fox but you’re gonna break the game so badly that pretty soon nobody gonna want to play you because it ain’t fair or fun.
      I’ve taken hella addy and I don’t give a damn who knows it. It’s not illegal and I never signed any wavers at a smash tourney saying that I couldn’t abuse drugs. All us degens are likely to be on some kind of substance whether it’s caffeine, weed, nicotine, addy, etc but don’t lie about it ... at least if you care about integrity.
      I love melee. And I love the smash community. I love trans people. I love gay people. I love anyone who loves melee. I don’t want to CAUSE conflict but I feel as though at times that I have to speak up about my feelings on these issues. Anyway merry Christmas.
      Fuck Nintendo and free melee

  • @thelu5661
    @thelu5661 2 роки тому

    Oh my god this video format is so good!

  • @katsoupman3218
    @katsoupman3218 2 роки тому +1

    What a great tournament

  • @indes230
    @indes230 2 роки тому +2

    Great content bro

  • @ivanp8723
    @ivanp8723 2 роки тому +1

    Melee is sick

  • @JacobSC_
    @JacobSC_ 2 роки тому +1

    Such a good recap

  • @bruhgaming15meleeisSOCOOL
    @bruhgaming15meleeisSOCOOL 2 роки тому +1

    HE BEEN DONE WORK

  • @yankees2864
    @yankees2864 2 роки тому +11

    One thing that I thought should be mentioned is Hbox who had his worst performance in years. I think he will rebound in 2022, but who knows what place he will be at then.

    • @asvenson5267
      @asvenson5267 2 роки тому +1

      This is a highlight series dude

  • @etiennephilippe5077
    @etiennephilippe5077 2 роки тому +2

    Smash world tour ?

  • @sebastiansanchez375
    @sebastiansanchez375 2 роки тому

    How does everybody win one set? Like is that including pools? Because I’m trying to think that out in my head and I can’t understand how that’s be done in one bracket

  • @black.sasuke.uchiha
    @black.sasuke.uchiha 2 роки тому +1

    I don’t know when smash summit happened, I’m actually not an expert on smash tournaments in particular. Just wanted to point out the fact that the thumbnail looks like 2 copies of the exact same character model from an AI, except one is statistically “average“ physical stats, while the other has “above average“ physical stats.

  • @milk4you1200
    @milk4you1200 2 роки тому +2

    Great video

  • @heyzeuscreestow9394
    @heyzeuscreestow9394 2 роки тому +5

    Still think the tdfw looks like it says hafu lol

  • @BIackDomina
    @BIackDomina 2 роки тому

    Good vibes

  • @lucas56sdd
    @lucas56sdd 2 роки тому +1

    6:50 looks like some Marvel vs Capcom shit or somn

  • @Athesies
    @Athesies 2 роки тому +1

    Sora's my fking guy

  • @xvaxxerx7223
    @xvaxxerx7223 2 роки тому +9

    Lol "first woman to" bruh women don't play melee

  • @bigjen8238
    @bigjen8238 2 роки тому +14

    Magi is not a woman lmao

  • @Akathornorth
    @Akathornorth 2 роки тому

    yes

  • @egg6998
    @egg6998 2 роки тому +9

    I fuckin luv magi, she’s so sick

  • @enklaev1465
    @enklaev1465 Рік тому +1

    When the first woman to top 8 a supermajor has a penis WE DID IT BOYS DIVERSITY 😊

  • @ILiekFishes
    @ILiekFishes 2 роки тому

    does anyone know the song that played during the last portion of the video?

  • @parasectkazuyabandicoot5360
    @parasectkazuyabandicoot5360 2 роки тому

    I do not twitter so the Amouranth congrats fucking killed me 😂😂😂

  • @BijouBellaRixp1
    @BijouBellaRixp1 2 роки тому

    Bro what was the music at around 1 minute that got me hype what is that music called Anyone know?

  • @stayontrack
    @stayontrack 2 роки тому +5

    womb+man=woman
    Magi has no womb so it's only a man.

    • @Thierce
      @Thierce 2 роки тому

      that's dumb. using your logic you'd have to physically examine every single person before using gendered pronouns for them instead of simply asking them or going by what they present as. Not practical and even less so because some people have their uterus removed and therefore do not have a womb anymore despite being biologically females

  • @nobodysbusinezz
    @nobodysbusinezz 2 роки тому

    good for Cody! He earned it!

  • @MrTimdeK
    @MrTimdeK 2 роки тому

    How do you guys watch a tournament while seeing the least amount of spoilers?

  • @zeduloetlexou4539
    @zeduloetlexou4539 2 роки тому

    gg for IBDW

  • @zubat0532
    @zubat0532 2 роки тому

    yay new vid

  • @Stogey
    @Stogey 2 роки тому

    was the 4 square game streamed

  • @henchmanb
    @henchmanb 2 роки тому +10

    first woman to top 8 a super major................................

    • @dirtydirtyshisno7284
      @dirtydirtyshisno7284 2 роки тому +7

      Yes, yes she is :)

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +1

      Where?

    • @henchmanb
      @henchmanb 2 роки тому

      @@dirtydirtyshisno7284 you make that kool-aid seem like it taste great

    • @puellapurin
      @puellapurin 2 роки тому

      Yeah, cool right?

    • @btf_flotsam478
      @btf_flotsam478 2 роки тому

      @@dirtydirtyshisno7284 Since when did Smash Summits count as supermajors?

  • @annodatum9456
    @annodatum9456 2 роки тому +12

    First woman to ever get top 8 in a super major…… just give me a break dude. It’s all so tiring.

  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 2 роки тому

    Ayo cover SWT!

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 2 роки тому

    *supermajor

  • @tenslein8977
    @tenslein8977 2 роки тому +9

    I would say Magi is the first transsexual in top 8.

    • @mayag1041
      @mayag1041 2 роки тому +1

      *transgender
      Also I think the fact that she is a woman is more important but definetly a dub for trans!

    • @dirtydirtyshisno7284
      @dirtydirtyshisno7284 2 роки тому +1

      Still a woman, + nobody asked you

  • @mensb1936
    @mensb1936 2 роки тому +4

    magi not a woman tho wtf?

    • @sg2126
      @sg2126 Рік тому

      She is actually.

    • @mensb1936
      @mensb1936 Рік тому

      @@sg2126 lol lmao

  • @Thierce
    @Thierce 2 роки тому +3

    Ironic to see all those people saying Magi is not a woman and that Walt shouldn't have said she is the first woman to ever make top 8 at a super major when they're most likely the same people who drive away cis women from the scene anyway. Take your bigotry somewhere else pls

  • @IlluminatiHottie
    @IlluminatiHottie 2 роки тому +1

    Yo, what's above your bed? Mirrors?

  • @notyou6674
    @notyou6674 2 роки тому

    props to magi but first woman to top 8? even if that was accurate, why are we acting like that's special? seems kinda messed up to act like a female player getting top 8 is so out of the realm of possibility it is historic..

  • @derekapollo3775
    @derekapollo3775 2 роки тому +2

    I have a lot of respect for Magi and she is really an incredible player. I dont want to generate hate, I want to say that first but I have an issue with saying she's the first woman to be in her position. Women and men's brains and body's are different and to say that shes the first woman to do so, doesn't that take away from the first non trans woman to accomplish the same feat or even make it harder? I love everyone all the same. This is not hate speech and I completely respect Magi and her accomplishments but I feel there should be a distinction just like men and women. It's ok to be who you are but that doesn't change biological factors that you can't control. Am I alone? I really don't want to offend anyone but I do think this is something that's important.

    • @ramensmoothie
      @ramensmoothie 2 роки тому

      Actually, studies show that transgender women's brains are near identical in structure to cisgender women's brains.
      and of course the same similarity is true of trans men and cis men. so there's really no cognitive difference between trans people and cis people of the same gender.

    • @sg2126
      @sg2126 Рік тому +1

      I understand what you are saying, but she was likely on hrt by then, which would negate any biological advantages due to sex.

    • @yurplethepurple2064
      @yurplethepurple2064 Рік тому +2

      Also melee is a video game, which makes it extremely different from irl sports in terms of the skills you need for strength in-game. I think a cis woman would have done it by now if the community was more friendly to all genders instead of being creepy or sexist. Also magi is a woman, because trans women are women, and even the notion that biologically people’s brain structures are different based on sex is sexist.

  • @Jamiree7
    @Jamiree7 2 роки тому +17

    making a big deal about magi's top 8 as the first time a woman has done it is pretty cringe.

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +9

      Transphobia is kinda cringe

    • @nbdxSkywalker
      @nbdxSkywalker 2 роки тому +9

      @@egg6998 it’s not transphobic

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +4

      @@egg6998 so are you

    • @puellapurin
      @puellapurin 2 роки тому +1

      No it isn't :)

  • @pho7925
    @pho7925 2 роки тому

    Amouranth is the real winner

  • @deathoctopus7395
    @deathoctopus7395 2 роки тому

    Hiii

  • @komborekt7016
    @komborekt7016 2 роки тому +15

    "First woman to top8" should be an actual woman

    • @mayag1041
      @mayag1041 2 роки тому +12

      She is a woman

    • @komborekt7016
      @komborekt7016 2 роки тому +7

      @@mayag1041 that's a man with make up lol

    • @mayag1041
      @mayag1041 2 роки тому +3

      @@komborekt7016 *woman

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +3

      @@mayag1041 are you just being funny or are you blind?

    • @mayag1041
      @mayag1041 2 роки тому +4

      @@Birrrrra wdym I'm just correcting their typo

  • @mateol5610
    @mateol5610 2 роки тому +16

    a woman... yea.. lul

    • @shinthemin
      @shinthemin 2 роки тому +2

      😐

    • @dirtydirtyshisno7284
      @dirtydirtyshisno7284 2 роки тому +7

      She is a woman, and you're a little bitch

    • @mateol5610
      @mateol5610 2 роки тому +11

      @@dirtydirtyshisno7284 nah just shows that you need a guy to be the best female smash player.

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +2

      @@dirtydirtyshisno7284 you're very rude

    • @dirtydirtyshisno7284
      @dirtydirtyshisno7284 2 роки тому

      @@Birrrrra Didn't ask, but thanks

  • @sumpyori
    @sumpyori 2 роки тому +32

    People always sleeping on Magi bc of their hate for transgenders and bigotry. Magi is soo overdue for a huge major win, it will happen soon. Best flaco that isn’t mango, wether you like it or not Magi is a great player and better than you.

    • @WhoPlaysMc
      @WhoPlaysMc 2 роки тому +20

      Magi is good but you’re delusional.

    • @homienick1824
      @homienick1824 2 роки тому +11

      lol. that's cringe

    • @sumpyori
      @sumpyori 2 роки тому +6

      @@WhoPlaysMc lmao that’s ripped straight from mangos stream, he said Magi is overdue for a win

    • @WhoPlaysMc
      @WhoPlaysMc 2 роки тому +1

      @@sumpyori Magi's equivalent of a win was summit.

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +5

      Magi is super sick, these fucking idiots need to result to bigotry to try and feel like they as good as her lol

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 2 роки тому

    I am just not a fan of IBDW. I dont want a future of IBDW being #1.

  • @dieklachst1675
    @dieklachst1675 2 роки тому +8

    summit is not a supermajor

    • @pac_rby
      @pac_rby 2 роки тому +9

      why? This tournament had like 3/4 of the Top 10, a $50k prize pool, and every single player in attendance was at least a Top 100 level.

    • @r_bear
      @r_bear 2 роки тому +6

      Eh. It had Mang0, Zain, iBDW, Wizzy, Leffen, Amsa, hbox, Kodorin, Magi... you can pull whatever official definition you want out of your ass, but it can't really contradict the reality of the attendees.

    • @btf_flotsam478
      @btf_flotsam478 2 роки тому

      @@pac_rby It has a very small number of players there, so there's a far smaller element of "beating all the good players, bad matchups and wildcard performances on your side of the bracket". She had to beat good players, true, but qualifying is usually the hardest part of Summit (and being a trans woman could well have given her that popularity boost- it's easier to launch a campaign around being the first trans woman than one around being a decent Falco main).
      Who cares, I'll cheer all the louder when the first woman to reach a Top 8 spot at a traditional supermajor. As for now, I'll say she is the first woman to reach the top 8 of a major (unless there's some other example, in which case feel free to correct me), and celebrate something that many authorities (e.g. Liquipedia) consider as having actually happened.

  • @quantum_leap786
    @quantum_leap786 2 роки тому +1

    bro men are so good at smash that the first ever women to top 8 a supermajor is indeed a dude. Men are better at being women that women apparently
    Calling magi the first women to top 8 a major in incredibly disingenuous imo.

  • @Loltrollface69
    @Loltrollface69 2 роки тому +41

    Not a woman just don't.

    • @dereklewis4321
      @dereklewis4321 2 роки тому +21

      I wont ever tell someone how they can and can't feel but I hate giving accolades for something like this...

    • @crooker23
      @crooker23 2 роки тому +26

      You literally are not a real person, you're an anonymous letter. Fuck your opinion on anyone's identity

    • @Loltrollface69
      @Loltrollface69 2 роки тому +27

      @@crooker23 when an actual female gets top 8 this will feel insulting to her go fuck urself.

    • @crooker23
      @crooker23 2 роки тому +14

      @@Loltrollface69 actually work my shaft anon, go crusade against trans women in your safe space on Twitter or Facebook or wherever you fucks congregate

    • @wrenrogers369
      @wrenrogers369 2 роки тому +15

      The main reason trans women are better in esports than cis women right now is because growing up in male-centric cultural spaces caused them to be more likely to develop the motivation and skills to compete. I will admit that for a game like melee there are biological factors like hand size and reaction time which could also make cis women less likely to be able to compete at top level, but I don't think these discrepancies are meaningful enough to rule out cis women from the top level of play, it will just make them more rare. That is to say, I don't think that Magi's success should be treated as a falsity just because she's trans. It's a great achievement, and it will hopefully inspire more women, trans and cis, to pick up the game. In a decade or two, the amount of top level female esports players is going to go up a lot, because it was only recently that women have started growing up in and or being introduced to video game dense cultural environments. A game like melee might be one that lags behind in this way because it's old, but generally I hope this will be the case in esports.
      This is videogames, not weightlifting, bud.

  • @ThatGuyThomas
    @ThatGuyThomas 2 роки тому +4

    DUDE WHAT IS THIS COMMENT SECTION

    • @egg6998
      @egg6998 2 роки тому +7

      50% transphobia, so sad

    • @nbdxSkywalker
      @nbdxSkywalker 2 роки тому +1

      @@egg6998 I think a 50% ratio in any debate is pretty admirable if u think about

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 2 роки тому +1

      @@egg6998 I think a lot of posts were removed since then...

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому +7

      @@egg6998 logic is transphobia nowadays

    • @puellapurin
      @puellapurin 2 роки тому +4

      @@nbdxSkywalker there is no fucking debate lmao "i think this basic human right shouldn't exist" is not a point of debating

  • @marcuspaquette1767
    @marcuspaquette1767 2 роки тому +29

    “First woman to top a super major”.
    Absolutely disrespectful to all women that it was stolen by a man, AND that TDFW pushed that narrative. First “trans” person, ok whatever… but first woman? Nope, that is absolutely not true.

    • @phage7889
      @phage7889 2 роки тому +48

      stfu

    • @ellieofficialvevo
      @ellieofficialvevo 2 роки тому +22

      Your existence is “absolutely disrespectful to all women”

    • @hechno9080
      @hechno9080 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah, first “woman” to top a super major, the word means nothing now. The real female title for that is still up for grabs. Glad someone said something

    • @nayippaganmarrero7298
      @nayippaganmarrero7298 2 роки тому +8

      Y'all say this you even care about woman anyway, toxic masculinity and transphobia continously driving people away, what a disgrace to call yourself a comunity member

    • @hechno9080
      @hechno9080 2 роки тому +3

      @@nayippaganmarrero7298 sorry you feel that way

  • @DaLooseGoose11
    @DaLooseGoose11 2 роки тому +23

    Magi is not a woman =D

    • @quackatak6191
      @quackatak6191 2 роки тому +29

      just cause you can't beat a woman in a video game doesn't mean she isn't one asshole

    • @tannerwilcox8942
      @tannerwilcox8942 2 роки тому +6

      @@quackatak6191 Correct. It's because that dude's swinging dick

    • @puellapurin
      @puellapurin 2 роки тому +9

      I'm sure that you never saw a girl before so i dont blame you for not being able to tell. But she is =D

    • @quackatak6191
      @quackatak6191 2 роки тому +8

      @@tannerwilcox8942 bro you look fucking 12 aren't you a little young for this app? Get back to your juice boxes and tell your dad to take off his MAGA hat for once so he can see the red flags.

    • @wolfrein2020
      @wolfrein2020 2 роки тому +3

      @@quackatak6191 GOAT

  • @Schmidty030
    @Schmidty030 2 роки тому

    Whatever you do, don't set the comments to "newest first." You will lose your faith in humanity.

  • @wunderwaffefries
    @wunderwaffefries 2 роки тому +21

    Magi IS NOT A WOMAN

    • @tannerwilcox8942
      @tannerwilcox8942 2 роки тому +6

      @BboP Damn bro. Hope he sees this. Good luck on your little boy bussy journey

    • @Tommy2_0
      @Tommy2_0 2 роки тому +21

      @@tannerwilcox8942 yeah man, only reason to why people fight bigotry is to get laid

    • @pitu9065
      @pitu9065 2 роки тому +6

      @@tannerwilcox8942 your name is Tanner and you’re talking about masculinity

    • @gamecow2
      @gamecow2 2 роки тому +9

      Get some fucking friends lmao

    • @Birrrrra
      @Birrrrra 2 роки тому

      @@Tommy2_0 what bigotry lol y'all are delusional