3 Body Problem | Why 3 Operator EXPO FM means trouble

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @RoyaleFougard
    @RoyaleFougard 7 місяців тому +3

    "You cannot predict or calculate the outcome with an equation function or formula. But still, that's an outcome you can work with". I think this is the best definition of the Eurorack world! Very interesting process. Thanks for sharing!

    • @walrtbstudios5430
      @walrtbstudios5430 7 місяців тому +1

      No, I’m afraid I still prefer his “doing something simple in the most complicated way possible” definition of Eurorack…

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +1

      That definition isn't mine, I think it comes from the 3-Body problem which simply means you can still watch what's happening even though you can't predict what happens next. I can fairly predict what will happen with two oscillators, but with three all bets are off.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +1

      @@walrtbstudios5430 It gets easier :).

    • @walrtbstudios5430
      @walrtbstudios5430 7 місяців тому

      @@CinematicLaboratory I wasn’t complaining. I occasionally use it as a title…

  • @KenSwanson-p4i
    @KenSwanson-p4i 7 місяців тому

    @ 6:00 .. "Isn't it magic?" .. indeed, indeed .. the chaotic nature, that starts falling into lines of something musical. It can be a very rewarding experience, flipping the right switches. I don't have 3 Plaits .. but, I sometimes get Beads to behave like this 6:00 section, with Stages, and/or Marbles.

  • @LYFoulidis
    @LYFoulidis 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful sounds! This problem is one to be enjoyed.

  • @tgiencke
    @tgiencke 7 місяців тому

    Thanks! I am going to try Tides modulation to the Digitone’s operators.

  • @mauriziofaggion
    @mauriziofaggion 7 місяців тому

    What a world you bring out of those modules!

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому

      Indeed, adding a second module creates new sounds exponentially. A third one would cube it, and a fourth... Who knows. Probably more noise....

  • @blush_response
    @blush_response 7 місяців тому

    Your videos are always fantastic

  • @milan-murratti
    @milan-murratti 7 місяців тому

    Really good sounds

  • @nodz007
    @nodz007 7 місяців тому

    voltage master at work :)

  • @arpmoog
    @arpmoog 7 місяців тому

    I too enjoy your problem.

  • @tru7hhimself
    @tru7hhimself 7 місяців тому

    what exactly is happening inthe drums patch in the end? those drums sound pretty good and not having any mutable modules i cannot discern whats happening.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +1

      I guess you'll understand from the video that all plaits are modulated by their own mixed outputs through the FM input, which means chaos. Each Plaits has a trigger input, which activates the built in VCA/Envelope. All three get a rhythm trigger from Marbles three T(ime) channels. Now they sound like unpitched drums. Finally, I've patched the three melodic CV outputs (X) from Marbles into the 1V/Oct pitch inputs. Since it's low and high notes, they start to sound like kicks, snares, hats, etc. because of the FM chaos. Plaits has its own factory drum sounds too, but they're not used. They're in 2 operator FM mode (green 3) so the sounds are completely synthesized.

    • @tru7hhimself
      @tru7hhimself 7 місяців тому

      @@CinematicLaboratory thanks! so the main thing here really is just the 3 osc feedback fm? i thought there must be more to it because it sounded so drum-like. my own attempts at fm-drums have been mediocre at best. i'll have try something like your patch tonight!

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому

      @@tru7hhimself What's happening is that plaits is already running in 2 operator FM mode. One is voice, the other is an audio rate modulator. So x3 it becomes six operator FM and the algorithm is (A * B + C * D + E * F) = Sum, and then Sum * Sum. You will not hear the modulators, only the voices (B, D and F). I'll be posting a video about FM this week with a new module video. Coming soon! It has a lot of information about these formulas/algorithms.

  • @Hikove
    @Hikove 7 місяців тому +1

    When I read the title, immediately thought in Schlappi Engineering Three Body to be the main lead on this one. Then 3 Plaits showed up.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +2

      Something similar happened to me, but in reverse. I was patching this up with three Plaits and then Schlappi Three Body dropped in like a coin. Sorry for the disappointment (if any).

  • @sonicspecter
    @sonicspecter 7 місяців тому +1

    I feel a bit click baited as the title of the video suggested a deep dive with the Schlappi Engineering Three Body module. As far as I can tell, Erics take on phase modulation and (through zero) frequency modulation with three oscillators is on another level. Insane how much effort he put in that module to get it right.

    • @dogboywonder
      @dogboywonder 7 місяців тому +1

      I got click baited too And as soon as I saw Plaits I decided I was out. And I’m out

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +1

      I don't understand the fuzz. I am not misleading or click-baiting anybody. It was inspired by the Netflix series with the same name as the title of this video. However, I love the Three Body and Schlappi's work and there WILL be a genuine dedicated video this year. Just waiting for the right moment to buy one.

    • @sonicspecter
      @sonicspecter 7 місяців тому

      @@CinematicLaboratory no worries, it’s still a good video using Plaits.
      I just got a Three Body (the buy decision took almost two years 🤣) and hoped for an inspirational video that shows how to use its sonic capabilities to full extent.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому

      @@sonicspecter Thanks for clearing that up. I ordered the Three Body today after seeing Schlappi's FPGA video and all the design choices he made. Unfortunately there aren't many videos around that make the module sound any better than the complex VCO's I already own so I am taking an expensive leap of faith here.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому

      @@dogboywonder I am sorry to hear that, but I will make it right :). Still, this video is a good warm up for what you can expect from the Schlappi. Without this video, I would have never ordered it. I don't do click-bait. It's cause and effect. And progress.

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 7 місяців тому

    What did u think of the show ?

  • @hadesbox
    @hadesbox 7 місяців тому

    Three body will do better audio rate modulation than plaits any day of the week.

    • @CinematicLaboratory
      @CinematicLaboratory  7 місяців тому +2

      Let's not go there. This was never intended as a competition.

  • @Probbie
    @Probbie 7 місяців тому +1

    Chaos is chaos, right? 🤔