I hate this game.
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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wow. 1 million views. damn. and people still complain that I didn't do _____ strategy. get in line with the thousands of others lol.
I make other videos that have time and effort put into them. I ended up beating them on Merciless like 2 days later, it's actually easier on that difficulty, LOL.
Update 3/14: Updated thumbnail to be consistent with the other videos. Why does this keep happening to me?
Frequently Asked Questions:
How do you fight the twins?
Caroline and Justine are extra bosses that can only be fought on a New Game Plus file. Beat the game first. Load your file, and they will be available to fight once you unlock mementos in your file.
How and why is Akechi there?
I fought the twins during the period that Akechi is in your party. During Sae's Dungeon before 11/19. He is there for that part of the fight in order to cast Debilitate every 3 turns so I don't have to waste 2 turns to debuff the twins. Who cares if he's a traitor? It's a model and piece of code in a game that can be OP if you fully level him up.
What difficulty is this?
For this video, Hard, but I bet them on Merciless. Much easier on merciless since the damage is upscaled for both sides.
Why didn't you fuse Sataniel?
Because I had no desire to complete the compendium during that point. I fused multiple Personas to get the build that I wanted for the fight, and Sataniel is overhyped either way, terrible stats and AWFUL attacks. It would be pointless to have him given the funds situation. Fusing Sataniel was the very last thing I did in my New Game Plus playthrough.
Why didn't you just switch to a persona that nullifies physical attacks?
I knew the orders that the twins attacked in. I thought that I would be fine with the current set up I had. Both twins were debilitated, I was fully healed up, and their first round of attacks won't do that much damage. However, Triple Down, despite being a light gun skill that hits 3 times somehow hit Joker as a critical. When the twins knock someone down, they go for the rest of the party. And you know the rest. Basically, the game cheated.
How did you end up beating them?
Had the same strategy I was going for here. There was a point where they did an attack that wiped out all the party members, but Futaba swapped them out cause I maxed the confidant with Hifumi. When they were on the last turn in Phase 5 with Divine Judgement and Demonic Decree, I used a limelight to have them target Joker and switched to a Persona that repel'd Bless and Curse, and that's when they went to critical. Survive and do enough DPS and you are golden.
You should have done ________! It's easier to do this fight on solo!
Keep in mind I did this 6 years ago, so any recommendations won't really matter. Also, I disagree with solo. Using all your party members is fine as long as you guard properly, and Joker doesn't get knocked down.
Any recommendations will be countered with "Deez nuts." I read all the comments.
What's are the costumes you are wearing?
DLC costumes for SMT IV. $6.99 on PSN. In game, if Joker wears it, Last Surprise will be replaced with "Battle A2." These costumes are free in Royal if you redeem the Legacy DLC Bundle. Not for Kasumi however.
Why does the footage look like dodo?
This was from a livestream that was recorded with a $50 Diamond Capture Card and was played on PS3. This video was recorded back in 2017 with the original version of P5. Back then I had limited funding and no job, so a crappy $50 capture card is all I could afford. I own the game both on PS3 and PS4, and Royal. And now I own an Elgato and PC I regularly record games and stream on.
Have you played a real Shin Megoomi Tensay game?
Yes. Nocturne, Strange Journey, Soul Hackers, Devil Survivor 1, and both IV and IV:A (4A isn't good)
Have you played Persona 5 Royal?
Yes and I have Platinum'd both Vanilla and Royal. I love the new story additions. The new gameplay additions make the base game a lot easier which I didn't like at first. The new dungeon and month is fantastic, but the new final boss was underwhelming. I'm glad there is 2 extra bosses too so players can fight Lavenza for an extra challenge. But I was right, Royal made the Caroline and Justine fight easier.
Will you make more Persona 5 videos?
Probably not. I've fallen off the series. If you want a good Persona Content Creator, Subscribe to Oziach, He's way more fair on the games, watched my videos, and is an overall chill dude. / oziach
Persona still sucks Cock dick ballin
love how people are posting advise for a video that is 5 years old
Yes lol
i like how your attention span is limited to "OH SOMETHING NEW AND SHINEY!"
@@nunyanunya4147 um... what?
@@TheDarkZoren people who aren't privy to all the optimal twin plays could still use this information, regardless of whether the video itself is old or not
Eh, it's a bit on youtube for recommending a video this old.
You can actually hear the moment his heart breaks
the second that "ziodyne" popped up
@@SlingingHashSlasher The sound you heard when Caroline's cut-in appeared? That sound wasn't part of the game. That was the sound of his heart breaking.
heartbeat, heartbeat, it gets pounding
heartbreak, heartbreak, u tell me goodbye
It was the moment they high fived
His Will to live*
I always like it when RPGs have at least one boss battle where the enemies get their own version of party-exclusive abilities.
I mean, that's P5 in a nutshell, enemies can do 1 more, enemies can take a member of your team hostage and kinda do what you can in a hold up, and in rare occasions like this, an all-out attack.
oh really? I wouldn't know, P5 is my first experience with the series, and the way it's all presented makes it feel like brand new innovations.
the only REAL new mechanic in p5 in battle is the baton pass mechanic.
one mores were always part of the series.
PQ had the ultimate boss use AoA.
demon reruitment was a thing harolding from persona's roots as a SMT spinoff.
so...
Even the baton pass is not a new feature. It was included in SMT III according to what I know. You can save the current action chance of a party member and pass it down to others and it doesn't even require a 1 more to do that.
TheBraveGallade One Mores, Baton Pass, Gun. Probably more idk
You know atlus stepped up their game when they made the ultimate bosses do an all-out attack. R.I.P P5 players.
Masayoshi Shido Yeah. I hear the PQ super boss was pretty tough because of that
Hi Shido
I mean, the Persona Q super boss is Margaret, Elizabeth AND Theodore. It was hardly going to be easy... Now imagine those 3 and these two.
actually I hear from a lot of people this fight was the easiest out of the three, excluding Q. don't quote me on it though lol
I won't quote you on that because everything about Vanilla P4 was a handholding merry go-round, including the Ultimate Boss
Joker: Right, I debuffed them a decent amount and we're all fully healed
P5: Did I hear "Total party kill"?
xd
Still not as bad as p3’s megidoloan
Some real megaten bullshit
Still more easy than Elizabeth from Persona 3
@@tristanaflamenguista9501 but she doesnt have an instakill all out attack tho
"This will be hell for you"
well she didn't lie at least
Where are the replies
Btw im sus
"HELL 2 U"
True
Then you see her kicking your whole team's ass! She needs to chill, damn!...😂
Their All-Out Attack animation is so awesome, I actually couldn't get mad when I lost to them
Which was a lot...
Honestly Caroline and Justine are 2 of my 3 favorite Characters (the third being Morgana) and thats why I honestly end up rooting fore them in this fight.
When I saw that all out pose I knew I was out matched
My reaction was so thats how that feels huh
He'll yea it is, never played the game but have watch that animation over and over again. Sooooo freakin pimp.
Solo is way easier than with a party, Ultimate Yoshitsune and Lucifer as a buffer debuffer and you should get them first try. When you don’t know what you are doing is when you struggle, I finished P5 5 times and on my second run on P5R they are cakewalk at this point.
This is what 90% of battles in this game look like from the enemy’s perspective
POV: You're just a level one Shadow that drops 3 EXP.
Holy fuck, they have baton passes and all out attacks too? That's fucking awesome taste of your own medicine shit right there. Not to mention the picture for their finishing move is dope
If the battle takes too long, they get bored, do a little dance, and summon Ardha, who instantly knocks your entire party down just by appearing, and THEN doing an All-Out Attack.
GSSAGE7 how long is "if you take too long" though??
If you don't damage them to the next phase by 6 turns, they'll use ardha to knock down everyone and all-out attack you.
Out of all the Assistants they are actuallythe weakest. Elizabeth and Margaret are just insane.
Nah, Margaret is the easiest. You can Drain everything against her, while Elizabeth just insta kill you if you dare and you must resist at most, meaning you can still die to her physical crit and instant kill. And you have to use Armageddon at the right moment, or she fully heal.
In my personal experience, hardest was Liz, then Caroline and Justine who punish you hard for having weaknesses, and then Margaret.
I guess you didn't see it coming.
Manu Nova 😂
Savage XD
Alright you can leave now, it's been 3 years
I mean, after all, Caroline and Justine’s minds are _too fast for eyes._
@@random_person_i_guess no just no
... They had to make the "Y" blend in.
tsukinoakuma they were talking to me when they made that
*don’t be so cock*
Don't be so
cock y
This is the first recorded instance in the history of video games in which the boss was like “now I’ll get serious” and then actually went hard. Plus the music was perfectly timed which was cool.
Totally unintentional and glad it was recording when it happened. An absolute miracle tbh
Undertale would like to have a word with you.
Laughs in mainline SMT
This is the true SMT experience
Don't be so cocky.
Doujin says otherwise
Don't be bococky.
+ARZRer Seriously, it's like the staff put the Y way too far away on purpose.
CripplingDepression don't be so cocky
DONT GET SO COCKY PHANTOM FOX
0:39 those syncronized moves from Crow and Joker. P5 Dancing All Night Confirmed.
Richie Palma P5: Stealing on the dance floor.
It's just a reskin of the Adachi/Yu dance
Richie Palma OTP
Now confirmed 100% by Atlus!
Richie Palma That moment it actually happened
Did I hear your voice say "oh my god"
God dammit, I found you again. XD
When
Flare's Animations Gaming,Animations and More 1:09
OOOOOH NOOOOOO!
Why are you here?
That's what you get for using Akechi
Life lessons with IamTheMarsian
IamTheMarsian wtf. should akechi be resisted to curse and bless skills?
philipinoboy13 weak to curse. i used him for debilitate. worked well but he did end up dying in final phase resulting in everyone having to be switched up. still beat them tho
😂
Still, you want a party comprised of those who can evade their weakness. Akechi can't learn that though and debilitate is not that good of a move for a duo boss.
"You're pretty good Joker" - Revolver Ocelot
Andy The costumes give no tactical advantage whatsoever. That was some fancy battling though, you’re pretty good. - Caroline and Justine
Pretty... good?
"Is this an rpg? WHAT ROLE AM I PLAYING, THE FUCKING VICTIM?!"
i mean, joker is accused for a crime he arguably didn't commit when coming into the picture to help a victim. This situation makes him very distinctly the victim
Why do you complain? This is exactly what you have been doing to your opposition the entire game.
Because! It’s not fair when the AI can actually use the same techniques!
I kid, I kid, it’s nice to see the game follows it’s own rules.
Sometimes, anyways.
An all out attack from you is not enough to take out most mid bosses in the game.
An all out attack from them doesn't even do 9999 Damage, they just END THE BATTLE.
This is not even an all out attack, this is a force quit.
You are about as strong as the last few Shadows you ambushed to them. (Just like the other attendants fighting the other Persona users, i mind you. Elizabeth and Margaret act a lot nicer but they have the same mentality as the Twins.)
But your health also isn't nearly as much as those bosses. If you could all out attack yourself, it would likely be a one-shot. XD
If you know how its easy to prevent. I like how I end up sabotaging the same strategy I have been using throughout the entire game.
Well, unless they give us ability to have more than 999 health, their skills exclusive to them and stuff, they have no right to use the same thing on us. Especially that their all-out-attack counts somehow as instant kill despite their firepower being MUCH LOWER and having only TWO people performing it. Sorry, but unless A.I. and me have THE SAME skills and rules, we have right to complain.
Man, that Y is situated in quite a bad spot.
ＤＯＮ＇Ｔ ＢＥ ＳＯ ＣＯＣＫʸ
also rip
*D O N T B E S O C O C K*
Also good advice
I laughed too much
Rip my nigga joker.
+ugh whatever 😂salty racist
Goro Akechi You're only good at praising to the pancake god.
Akechi: Now for my redemption
A few seconds later: *entire party is knocked down*
> challenging the twins without getting Satanael, or at least a persona that has no weaknesses
Daiquawan Pickard I have yoshitsune (need to learn repel dark), Sandaphon, and Kaguya with null fire. I was very close to winning yesterday, but took too long in the final stage.
I had Ryuji and Ann charge and concentrate, while my mc used heat riser on them. Then agneyastra for Ryuji, and Blazing hell for Ann. Morgana for healing
SonicKick also I have the entire compendium filled out to 100%
The funny thing is if you have a Persona that has a weakneess but a skill that nullfys that weakness the twins will waste there turns trying to exploid the weakness of your persona. Also Limelight is incredible helpful in that fight. I used it on Joker and it results in way less 1 mores and Button passes fore the twins. I still needed a pretty high level to beat them on hard.
I dont have access to some of the really OP Personas in this fight becuse I dont like importing stuff from my previous play through into a new one.
So Yoshitsune is impossible fore me to have fore this fight because you need Futsunushi to fuse him and that fusion only gets unlocked after the magician Confidant is maxed out and after that you can not fight the twins any more.
Sofaris Stop talking to yourself u ass
the phantom thieves: *killed a literal god*
two toddlers in prison warden outfits: "allow us to introduce ourselves"
inb4 flashbacks of Minotaur
BEHOLD MY DEMONS
DMFND And shortly after the only slightly easier Medusa.
CRITICAL HIT
CRITICAL HIT
CRITICAL HIT
SBFH01 the only reason is because of a freak crit XD
Dax Wolf only reason i know of it is that video from sirlionhart.
"CRITICAL HIT FOR DAYS!" lol
"Thank you, Dark Souls."
Ohh my god i loved that video...
Dunky For Life!!!!
Smt is older than dark soul and its always known for being a very hard series
@@MinhAnh-lo7wl
Lies
@AarSama true but literally nobody asked that dude
Title- "I hate this game"
Description- "I platinumed both vanilla and Royal"
That's Megaten for ya!
When I found out they could baton pass I had a heart attack
I rather like this boss compared to Elizabeth and Margaret in previous games. I'll admit, this one is easier than the others with the right team and skills, but I find this one to be my favourite because of 1 thing: Teamwork. In previous games, you only had one target, meaning you didn't have to waste SP on multi-hitting skills and, since there was only one of them, they couldn't do an all-out attack. However, this time, that's not the case. The twin's strategy of exploiting your weaknesses and using the Baton Pass ability you have to chain together multiple 1 Mores until the point they can do an All-Out Attack, it is the same strategy as the player's methods of getting through battles easily. They even have the ability to revive and heal each other, like you. I always enjoy games where they have bosses that have your abilities at their disposal, as it puts you into the perspective of the enemy and causes you to have to plan accordingly, making sure you have the right equipment and attacks to make up for your weaknesses.
The only thing they don't have is the ability to heal the entire party to full (AKA both of them), but that doesn't matter too much. With 8k health, that did be pushing the boundaries of hard but fair.
Pretty sure we wouldn't guarantee one shot all enemies if our damage output was pathetic compared to the enemies max health.
I like how lavenza uses all-out attack though
People say that Elezabeth is harder but I disagree because for lavenza or the twins you HAVE to have party members or you have to do some out of the box shit like showing a weakness in front of lavenza to not have her tetrakarn then makarakarn
I miss the Equipment from persona 3 where you can equip Party Members with Accessoires who nullifies their weaknesses and even the Boss said that you are weak only because you do that. Thats not weakness. Thats knowing your enemy and your weakness and how you find a way to Deal with them. So its more about that you are smart what doesnt mean you are weak because cleverness and Intelligence will always bring you more then just Power or Abilities. Thats only limited when you dont know how to use it. When you are creative you can also use your Superpower for more. In Battle in various Ways or to Transport or for other problems.
Joker got crit, Haru and Akechi Got hit with weakness, Justine Baton passed to Caroline, and Caroline hit Morgana for weakness.
All of that happened in 30 seconds. You just had to watch 30 seconds of literal pain and suffering.
That had to be the most pain a human could be in
i love how they grabbed all your weaknesses and abused them
This exactly how the shadows feel when fighting the phantom thieves xD
Nobody:
Joker: Can't go to jail if you're already in it
That music fit perfectly
*Persona 5 subtitle:* you beat p4 on hard?... that's cute.
*Chuckles*
Look at this kiddo >;)
ua-cam.com/video/cUN-75HdLI0/v-deo.html
I did.
@@boiwifeyasmr4U SAMMMEEE
i think p 3 elizabeth is more harder
This is what we call, in the industry, an "RNG Spank"
"Perhaps it is time I begin getting serious"
*knocks down the entire party*
The Velvet Room Attendant battles: Humble Pie with extra Salt.
Morgana: let me heal
The twins: imma bout to end this mans whole career
okay but rivers in the desert synced perfectly with the fight when the twins were talking
Damn you got finessed bad
P5 fans: This fight is unfair...
SMT fans: WHY YOU DON'T COVER YOUR WEAKNESSES?!?
Fr tho imagine going into a boss battle without null everything. Especially a super boss.
@@jackour8167 most real SMT bosses do the elizabeth brand "oh you brought an immunity to what im going to use? fuck you die"
They usually have an insta-kill if you do that. Elizabeth I know for sure does
@@xLadyRainethey pretty much all do. It's their way of telling you to stop trying to be cute. Sometimes I wonder why we are the ones who need to take down these gods, when the attendants could mop the floor with them...
@@starbound100well in this game at least Yaldaboath wiped the floor with them and Igor this time. And Joker ends up saving them and defeating Yaldaboath which shows how powerful humans can become.
When you get your ass handed to you just right.
"I guess we'd better start getting serious..."
Actually, could you maybe not, please?
Caroline taking pose lessons
Ravioli ravioli
you don't fuck with the Velvet Lolis
No matter how much Caroline wants it.
Now you know how the shadows feel when you exploit their weaknesses
Justine wasn’t kidding when she said “they were beginning to get serious.”
They literally fucking split joker in half
Never seen this happen but omg I love the twins. ❤️
If you listen carefully, you can hear the moment this man dies on the inside
get freakin' rekt kiddo
Heh, nothing personal kid
0:32"its time i begin getting serious."
(*frkin 1turns your entire party*)
Yea guess they did get serious
inb4 losing to them on purpose just to see their all-out attack animation
If Joker gets knocked down at any time, it’s pretty much game over.
I can't explain how much I love how they incorporated Enemy All-Out Attacks into this fight. THIS feels more like a secret-boss fight, instead of Elizabeth just pixie-dolaon'ing you and instantly killing.
0:30 The music is so well timed, holy shit!!!
The sad part about all of it is if they miss they have a chance to cast dekaja too.
For those of you who are unaware even you don't get knocked on your face due to weaknesses , you have 6 six turns to deal 1350 points of damage a piece or they knock the whole team on their butts and end the fight there. After the first exchange you then have five turns to take them out until the last phase. The last you have a total of 50 turns counting the ones you've already used.
I know it's just me, but the 480i resolution from the AV input makes it look retro, as if it came out in 2011 for the PS3 long before P4G. It looks good, imo.
"Looking good Justine!"
Ah yes, the Onmoraki with freaking FREIDYNE.
I love how they just *decided to win*
Joker: Huh, so that’s how it feels
sooo Minotaur PTSD... not ok
0:41
Morgana: *LOOKING COOL JOKER* only bc akechi and protag. did a dance
When they target your party's weaknesses one at a time though, it's just like "are you kidding me?"
Almost happened to me once.
.........then Makoto dodged it thanks to the evasion skill. Atta girl
*Sees Akech in the first second of the video*
You have great taste in Persona characters my guy.
I literally thought those sounds were from my stomach.
You got knocked the F*** out!
Your description is right, the algorithm brought me here after 4 years of it being posted
This makes Persona 5 look like a Wii game and I really like it
Gotta respect this man for answering so many questions and comments in his description.
them dance moves on point though XD
I love when Justine says she's getting serious and music goes faster I love this gane
1:24 "Dont be so cocky" lol
Persona 5 dancing all night confirmed lol
Lol in their all out attack 1:16, Caroline's hand looks so tiny.
"You're wide open"...
Thanks Mona, quality support.
Atlus: you know that thing you do to NPCs yeah now how do you like it
Players: surprised pikachu face
Lol theres something really nostalgic with the video being low quality. Also smt iv costumes are the best
Still wild that Akechi is weak to curse moves
You got screwed by random crits harder than the average TF2 player...
There’s something so weird about seeing fuzzy ass footage of a relatively new video game
even weirder considering the video was uploaded in 720p
The guy explains it in the description
@@sucdrag0n732 yes I’m aware
Joker: Last Words?
Twins: Don't get cocky
Joker: OH SHI-
This has brought back memories of when i found out they had an enrage when i was going for the plat a few years back.
Ill say this just once but that fight was very hard in High difficulty and i had to put all my brain power to every move i make
*Anime opening plays in the background*
Joker: "it's over now!"
Caroline and Justine: "sorry, but this is for us."
This reminds me of that one scene in Super Mario Brothers Z where Mario, Luigi, Sonic, and Shadow fought the Koopa Bros and lost to them
Damn... Joker's daughters finally clapped back
Equip Satanael= ez win.
They can never knock you down and go all out.
beat them on my first try, and it was such a long battle...
I knew they could heal each other 1 time each, but i was not ready for the infinite recarm and the fact that you have to kill both at the same time.
Thank god for Lady Ann's massive fire boost passives and Blazing Hell.
Snizel i beat them solo by using satanael in the first phase then by using Yoshitsune only , it take like 15 minute
Even without the All-Out attack the boss still has a time limit.
Me: gets pissed off
Also me: can’t be mad when river in the valley playing
Love how Akechi used debilitate on Justine... And she instantly nailed three-quarters of the moves which lead up to the all out attack 🤣
this video shows up in my reccomended ever so often and i have to watch it every time
yea. so do I and i hate it.
I had a glitch where at one point they did there finisher and it didn’t kill me
That was by far the funniest thing ever
Twins going to hate their own game if you pull out Izanagi no okami picaro
I can hear a faint screaming and a controller being thrown there
This is when you say "f it." Izanagi no okami picaro time.
Welp, looks like I'm never fighting those two.
I found its the best fight in the game.
The exact moment when persona gameplay sudenly becomes SMT gameplay
Joker: "This is unfair! You can't get 5 turns because you get critical + weakness and then kill us all with an All out attack!"
Twins: "But didn't you do the same thing for the entire game"?
Joker: "... It's still unfair".