The Religious Dilemma
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2018
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I knew this was a risky topic but decided to go ahead and make this video anyway. I understand that there are good arguments for both sides, so let the comment section debates begin! and regardless of which side you're on, thanks for viewing.
How does this only have 515 views?????
I love how you source everything and make your points clear, really well made video man!
thank you for your positive comments
I had fallen into the pit of atheism for many years after an experience in the Iraq war, I have found my way back to god only recently, only to see just how far things have gone.
Thank you for your voice
thank you for your support.
Metoo Nunyabidness thank you for serving our country
Metoo Nunyabidness you were lead the wrong way smh
Jh Mt
I wasn't lead anywhere
Perhaps that's the problem
I had no moral or spiritual leadership in my life
When the real difficult questions of life arose, no one in my life was prepared with an answer, or even to question for them selves
I was often left with the notion that some questions are better left unasked
I am a parent now
And I encourage my child to follow any idea, but to understand logic and principal
I hope to be prepared that, when the hard questions arise in her life, i'll either know how to answer the question, or have the courage to ask the question myself, and be the leader and example that she needs
Metoo Nunyabidness okay sure. Whatever floats your boat
John 15:25... they hated Jesus without cause. Matt. 10:22... those who hated Jesus will hate Christians. We were given a heads-up a LONG time ago about how we will be treated so it should come as no surprise. Count it all as blessing. You should be worried when you get along with the world and everybody loves you. That's a red flag.
This video was really well done.
Production quality on point. subbed, can't wait for more vids
All the people in the comments who are down playing religion are people who live in the world and have a perfect life. They talk about how we are weak and we are controlled by religion. The most important thing in religion is free will but that there are consequences for your actions. These people don't see the works of religion and are blind because they are comfortable living in the world. Sometimes the devil let's us live comfortable and causes no harm to us so that we see religion and say we can live without. Religion doesn't make your life better, Jesus says that you'll suffer and people will down talk you and hate you just because you follow him and it comes to no surprise that that is what is happening today.
It feels odd being a Christian from birth in a society that detests Christianity. A lot of the distaste for Christianity or religion in general comes from judging all of a religions beliefs off what an extremists believed and/or the quarrels people have over different religions and religion vs science. A lot of my friends are Athiests or have beliefs based in Christianity, Islamic, Buddhist, etc faiths. Now while we may disagree, it certainly doesn’t mean we have a distaste for each other. From time to time, we will have discussions about religion. We will end these conversations with philosophical growth or just reject the others beliefs(agree to disagree). Which sounds fine. It’s kind of annoying when people call my beliefs stupid and pointless and “what’s wrong with the world”. I’ve had friends tell me it’s the same with Muslims and other beliefs.
This is a delayed comment, but I just came across this video. I agree, I would add also that those extreme examples are what many people use to ridicule the intelligence of those who hold a belief. Something people also do, is to point to authorities at some point in history who have used religion to accomplish terrible deeds, as a refutation of religious belief itself. But this is a fallacy, as those individuals would have used whatever means was convenient and effective to them at the time, whether it be religion or something else. The video also touches on the fact that often people assume that holders of a particular belief are a monolith, when in reality often they vary quite a bit in their own personal beliefs, and yet oddly are often told by others what they themselves believe. I get that people feel the need to "outgrow" religious beliefs, and that we are more intelligent now and can finally cast off such things, even if that seems disingenuous. If we can agree that individual liberty is paramount and that the individual is uniquely their own to choose on their own despite being part of a collective country (among other ranging parts of society), then does that not apply to their belief that is also uniquely their own even when they belong to a particular religion? Lastly I understand the irritation on the parts of someone who holds no deistic/theistic belief being told that they still have a belief, as they would specifically be referring to a deistic/theistic belief, and so they also get viewed as monoliths when they too are not and have their own individual views. There is a lot to unpack and many centuries of human issues that cause many people to believe or not believe certain ways, but there is certainly from both sides of the argument (or many numerous sides rather) the tendency to discount anything the other says due to a predetermined assumption of them collectively which actually is a refutation of their individuality. I think that you can still have your own framework for understanding the world around you whether part of that is (what we would classify as) a religious belief or not, while keeping an open mind to discuss and respect others, and potentially adjusting your framework or possibly at times modifying your own personal interpretations of the way you thought into your personal framework. Many of the issues with religious texts, founding documents, and even scientific theories for things we yet do not and certain things we may never understand, come from personal interpretations that make sense at a certain point but which we refuse to re-interpret differently given different information at a later time/point. Personally for me alone (hey I have that individual right, right?) part of my framework is my belief (which yes is Christian, to the ridicule of many), but which has evolved somewhat over time due to personal experiences/knowledge in many areas in a way that has reinforced my core beliefs (though at times replacing my previous personal interpretations) rather than discounting them.
Jesus's teaching are very important and people should respect them so I agree with video.
all of the comments here are either people saying religion is stupid or religion is great, why don't people just understand that people have their ideals and ideals change over time? are they just that stubborn? and this is coming from an atheist the fuq.
Well done
Thank you, sir
Excellent thoughts !
We need to look at our history and start loving it again, since we have been raised in self hate.
And as you say, where do our moral standards if not from our religion ?
I see that many "atheists" raised people come back to some kind of religion and / or transcendance.
Cheers.
Yes! I agree with mr dawson: that modern science is the child of christianity
and well done. going in to bat for christianity usually takes just what you did. not everyone educates himself as you have done
In Every religion base their is the concept of peace, love, care, bliss, etc. And most important to make your own life good by these qualities, but how it becomes bad. When, then some bad people tries to fulfill their greeds by using religion and weak minded people who don't even understand the deepness of their own religion for their own purposes .
When many individuals try to force their views and belief over others without taking into consideration that their own way of life's is an best example and an invitation for the people that their way of living of life is more better. Then it becomes bad.
Following religion is a personal thing and way to god inwards of our souls means to understand our own mind so that we can make it full of qualities and nullifies all negative thoughts.
For example, forgiveness.
To me, America is a Christian country. People, make up a country not the government. While the government may have only been influenced by Christianity, the people were sternly Christian and stayed that way for hundreds of years up until recently. It’s in the American DNA.
I enjoyed this.
The moment it was concocted.
good defense of Christianity in a secular age.
Christian Distributism is a balanced New testament approach to the individual and love of neighbor in society! Perhaps christians should be discerning about the Atomistic consumer cult ,dare to say, "religion" we live in! Just some thoughts for conversation!! Thanks!!
kinda when all the pedophiles got busted. kinda when we realized a book written a long time ago. is a work of fiction
if you need to follow someone who doesn't exist (or not living anymore) or have that hanging over your head that someone is sitting above the clouds or in the ether is watching you and recording all your moves. Just how morally fucking bankrupt are you in the first place that you need to have that type of structure in place to be nice to people. is fucking horrible.
Im just nice to people. I treat people nicely. because thats what I want to do. thats how I was brought up .
Sort of irrelevant to the video, but do you think religion is necessary in modern society? Or can we find other ways to impose morality and keep order?
Kyle Olejarczyk In my opinion, where there is no religion present in a society, chaos erupts. The backbone of any functioning civilization throughout history was religion - most, if not all of the time. Morality can’t be imposed by fear, but it can be instilled through guidance. That morality is easily lost, however, when such guidance does not stem from a concrete set of beliefs
Christianity is a relationship (with God), not primarily a religion. Christianity teaches the core need to "love your neighbor," and everything else (morals) will follow. No need for the 10 commandments or order if a person simply loves their neighbor. (see Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5)
Your point about the forces in our society that aim to undermine Christianity is true. But it stems, at least in part, from a long history of hypocritical behavior by Christians. Nothing has done more to undermine Christianity than Christians themselves. Or more specifically, those who call themselves Christians but whose behavior is decidedly non-Christian. This of course is true for all religions, because the very thing religion was designed to overcome, human nature, cannot be overcome without strong moral character. Unfortunately no amount of faith can teach moral character. That requires good upbringing and positive life experiences.
I agree. But I don't necessarily think that it stems from hypocritical behavior from christians themselves, but people who misinterpret Christianity and those who are "false christians." Obviously that's a bit subjective, but I address the issue to some extent in the second part of my video, "misrepresenting Christianity"
Yes I can see some of this happening, however I know some Christians who dedicate there life to teach or even help out others not through words. I would love to see people see this more and get a better understanding on how a true Christian is.
Religion is a restriction.
much of mainstream Christianity has lowered it's standards to fit that of the popular culture ro the point of becoming secular Humanists and placing themselves above God. Many have lost respect. The word of God doesn't change to fit YOUR sin we are told to Go amd sin no more.
Kristen berer sinning is subjective, it’s all within, your sins are not mine. This is an inner battle not an external one, that’s why i dislike Christianity.
When people started listening to left wingers and people from other religions
God bless you for bringing this to light. I hope you keep fighting the good fight. God bless you. Just subbed!
Instead of wishing a non identifying imaginary thing to bless someone due to gulability. Plz instead say thank you. Its way more respectful
I'm going to tell you why I think Christianity (and any other religion) is a bad thing to me : When I was born, I was already told to be a christian : when did I have the right to chose ? Then my parents made me take "christian lessons" (I don't know how to call them in english, I'm french ; we call it catéchisme) where I was told "God DID this, Jesus DID this, and not God did this, ACCORDING TO CHRISTIAN PEOPLE. I never really trusted in God, and when I realised how much one's religion describes a person for some people, I decided to just become an Atheist, because that's what I had always been, but never officially. Furthermore, why would I chose a religion that used to kill non-religious people, knowing that "God forgives everything" ; why would I chose a religion that scares its people with the idea of Paradise and hell ? Why would I have any religion, because they're against science beliefs ? That's why Christianity is bad to me. PS : I'm not criticising your video, just telling my reasons
Desertime I’m not getting mad at you but you did not understand one thing. Christianity is not scarring people into heaven or hell. All he said was believe and be baptized. Does that sound like a hard task to take? It doesn’t say you have to go to church though you should to refresh the word of God in you. It doesn’t say we have to be good people who do good deeds. I’m sorry if your parents were forcing you to believe something but they just wanted you to go to heaven with them. The only people who should be scarred of hell are atheists .
DragonWings21 What I meant was that they invented hell and said non-believers go to hell. So they're trying to scare people into making them follow their religion
@@Desertime Jesus didn't invent hell, He merely explained it.
it never became a bad thing, ill explain it simply.
i'm from Canada, a pretty religiously diverse place yeah? well my dad Serbian orthodox and my moms catholic, since both believe different things and as a child you don't want to pick sides you are mentally inclined to not follow a faith, thus i was unaffiliated with religious practice, despite this i went to a catholic school, weirdly enough as i grew older i noticed something a majority of other people in the catholic schools i was at weren't catholic either, most were either unaffiliated, a different religion, or like me were indifferent to it all. it has never been about thinking a religion became bad it has always been religious mixes and changes in ideals of the public, people started to focus more on the informational age and when they did they lost their care in religion and therefor their children did to, and those children's children, and eventually there will come a point were people don't follow religion, that's just how time and socialism works, and one day someone will start a religion that will start the cycle once more no big deal.
sorry this ran on long just thought id explain this thoroughly.
As a secularist raised Christian but now more of an agnostic I wholeheartedly agree about the benefits and possible uses of religion. Denying the fundamental societies and cultures and even science that benefited from religion is ridiculous.
However the idea that religion promotes positivity is a misleading one. Most religious people tend to be more close minded, ignorant, dislike science, bigoted, biased and overall negative. Yes in some cases religion promotes personal responsibility but in more cases it promotes faith and belief of instructions or hell fire
Science is 100% personal responsibility and Religion at best is 50%. Also this argument is only effective when used in the context of an ideal world. In this modern day and age western countries and atheist/agnostic people or people who inherit religion but don't believe in it tend to be more open minded, less biased/bigoted, more knowledgeable and overall better individuals.
This is especially true in other countries other than US. Using US as a religious example is funny since westerners are already more advance than 3rd world countries and traditional ones
US is still a Christian majority and yet racism, sexism, divorce, use of protection and sex before marriage is much more common in an open minded society like US, outside of the US we're not that lucky
It always was... A means of control... A way out of dispare...
Ultimately fear, is all that keeps intelligent people to still believe in that fairytale.
And for the less intelligent, it's still what it always was...
Control.
So much weakness, camouflaged as strength.
I feel sorry for you.
It isn't a conspiracy theory, the backbone of a religion is its ruleset, and they all have one.
Wrong and bad are not synonymous.
Is Christianity really suffering? Are you discriminated against? Are ur churches vandalized?
www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/30/macrons-france-average-of-three-church-attacks-per-day/
Research the number of Coptic Christians killed in church destructions during the Arab Spring.
Only Christians are sued into bankruptcy when choosing not to be forced to participate in another person's religion (gay marriage wedding ceremony)....no Muslim bakers or photographers are targeted.
Boka Haram killed 2,000 Christians in 1 day, destroying a Christian university and kidnapping and raping the women.
Jesus hated religion.. and stood up too it, hence His success.
Christianity is an ideology for backworldsmen.
It certainly was forward thinking in it's time, having many revolutionary and complex ideas that furthered men out of certain stagnations. But when an ideology reigns for 2000 years, it becomes stagnation.
I'm not bothered by the bigotry or the unscientific beliefs that often accompany the Christian faith. They are not the source of my hatred and disdain for such a religion.
I hate the very basic ideas expressed in Christian belief and many (though not all) of the values that are preached in the book and the institutions.
The belief in a world beyond our own that is far better, far truer, far older and far longer is hideous. The very idea belittles our current existence, which as far as I'm concerned is the only one that exists. To believe in heaven was so atrocious, dangerous and difficult an idea that we had to create hell as a consolation. Disgusting sentiment stemming from an inability to love the cruel beauty and the kind ugliness of the world and ourselves as we are.
The pity behind it all. Christianity is the religion of pity, worshipping a deity whom we are supposed to always look up to and never attempt to best. Worshipping a being who must necessarily look down us, and whom we are supposed to thank for loving us despite our misunderstanding of why he might love ourselves if we are so insignificant before God. The morality stemming ressentiment for power and the powerful. Christianity took what was thought to bad - poverty, sexlessness, weakness - and renamed them good things: poverty is modesty, sexlessness is purity, weakness is virtue. And it took what was the good - wealth, beauty, strength - and made it evil: greed, vanity, tyranny. This Slave morality is worse than the Master morality before it. But neither are desirable to me. Better to leave both behind and to loot their bodies.
The idea of God as a perfect being whom we can never surpass or meet as equals. This forever leaves the contemplative man looking up at the clouds, thinking of his worthlessness before the infinite, instead of focusing him on his feet and grounding him in the idea that he can walk farther, faster, with more life, force, fun and felicity each day.
Christianity is a dying religion and ideology that I won't miss all that much. The only people it helps are the most weak, because it was made by the weak. Or as they would say, the meek.
Jacob Kuchavik, you have a good argument. I love a good argument and knowledge. I recommend a great book to read on this subject. It’s called The Book of Mormon. Please read this book. I look forward to hearing more from your after this.
Who would miss it? Who's it helping?
Slash who would miss what?
The entirety of religion
Slash It helps those who are able to play the institutions for their power. But for the more common person, it helps the weak find fake consolation.
Often the most religious people I meet are people who are supplanting an addiction or "curing" themselves of a trauma. These are people who do not feel ready to put their lives in their responsibility, nor to accept the injustice of the world. The religious often find solace in claiming that in the end, God will set all crooked things straight and that because of their due service they will receive eternal reward.
You don’t need to invent a fairytale to teach real things. Perhaps people these days tend to favour a more light, yet realistic approach. Separate the good teachings of the christianity from the invented story and characters and just rename the teachings to something a real person can relate.
Personally I find it hard to associate everything morally right to a fictional character. Most of my morale comes from my parents lessons. The idea of praising someone who’s not real and has never moved a muscle for me is bizarre and probably is the main reason why I feel repelled from religions. Well that and the violent ways of how they were spread across the world, including christianity
We’re outgrowing religion as whole, and nothing’s wrong with that. Morals and values are one thing, and Christianity does it wrong
It always has been a bad thing. It's logic from the Stone age.
llamawizard llam
You have little education in these matters. Not even daycare worthy.
Atheistic materialism is as sophomoric an analysis of human reality as you can get.
Dragon's Red - Did not Marx call it "Scientific Socialism"?
Always just one corpse short of perfection.
David Rapalyea
The fact that you assume to know my education on anything further demonstrates your ignorance and your willingness to feel conviction for that with which you have no understanding.
llamawizard - Re me "assuming" your education.
I need assume nothing since you demonstrated a lack of education "in these matters".