Khedoori’s height drops explained [Capstone Australia analysis 1]
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2021
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There is a lot of variation here, don't assume that everything said here applies to you, if you'd like more in-depth advice feel free to contact me on instagram.
This is not medical advice, if you're concerned about an injury get it checked by a doctor.
Thanks for doing this work! It is really the kind of thing that the parkour community, and movement culture in general, needs to evolve. ✌️
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This should go without saying but one other highly important factor is conditioning.
Khedoori has been taking big drops for a long while now, not just in the Capstone video. I don't think I've seen Khedoori do a roll since I discovered him a couple years ago. It hasn't always been massive or straight squat landings without hands but he has progressed to this point and proper technique plus thicc glutes is what allows him to keep pushing these exceptional heights.
Just loving all of this man, all so relevant and gives me actual direction for my long term goals :)
I agre 1000 % with this things in vidio
i'm becoming addicted to your videos man. Currently studying sports teaching and specialization in Parkour/Freerunning and boiii have I opened up to a whole new world of sport science then previuosly known!! I completly get everything you say and see how it connects to the deeper physiology behind it. You make everything sound easy to understand, in comparison to an advanced biomechanical analysis of a wallrun for example (which is on here on youtube somewhere). Which is serioulsy 100% salty for me, but for the broader audience, I'd definently recommend your videos!!!
Now having watched the actual video ;), once again, great video! Really! Super detailed and interesting! We really appreciate you making these!
I've been in awe at khedooris drops since the capstone video, was really cool to get an anatomical analysis of how he's so good at it!
Please do a video like his about Dom. Maybe how he takes drops or how he bails so well? I'm a biomechanics student and love to see these kind of concepts related to parkour!
Dude, you're killing it with this stuff, I would love to do a collab at some point.
Insightful. Especially the bit about disadvantaginth the supportive muscles and the head becoming heavier when the head is not stacked strait over the spine. Thank you
You are doing excellent work here.
Respect and keep creating!
Great video bro! Keep it up!
God I get so excited when you upload
“Collapsing is always worse than staying upright.”
It’s mostly phrases like these that I get hung up on, phrases that are impossible to validate and fairly easy to invalidate.
While on the whole I really appreciate and open sharing of beliefs and knowledge that make it easier for everyone to improve their technique.
Landing with ‘good form’ seems like a good intention to bring to the training.
But the belief that real skill is developed through ‘perfect repetition’ is quickly loosing its footing in the world of motor skill learning.
The athletes you highlight have continuously challenged themselves in diverse scenarios - and they have found good movement solutions to the problems they encounter daily.
To say that their movement solution is ‘the right one’… ah… it’s just such a tough sell.
But an enticing one to the hobbyist who is looking for someone to enlighten them about the perfect method.
Anyhow - I’m real critical here in my arm chair - and I have got to salute you for deciding to put your knowledge to the test on a public stage. 👏
**Edit: I like your performance indicator recommendation.
ya you still have to learn the movements like everyone else. i am not sure what you are getting at with the "perfect repetition" thing, some people need those slow reps doing things like walking or standing with good body mechanics(me), if they hope to do it them during a jump or a landing. also correct me if im wrong but you seem to be implying there is no such thing as optimal mechanics for things such running for example, but i would hate to attacks such a weak argument so please.
@@joeyshouse6405 Cheers Joey,
I definitely agree that there is better form and worse form. But how we go about deciding what is better and what is worse form is a big question - one that it is tough to find a valid answer to that holds up over time. We could try to measure torque detected at an arthrokinematic level and say high forces of torque are not good.
But that doesn’t say anything about the athletes ability to solve a movement problem yet - so we’re probably looking for low torque + improvement in efficiency towards the goal.
But that is for the short term motor coordination - how about long term adaptations in the right direction? We would need to include some level of understanding of optimal flexibility + optimal strength for all muscles groups, then detect if there is a specific weakness and after that include arthrokinematic values and performance measures in our chart towards finding ‘optimal form’.
Now we run into the next problem:
It would need a person, who knows all these details about someone else, including things that are impossible to detect without MRI like femoral angle of torsion that will have a direct influence on proper mechanics for the individual.
Let’s say we have this enlightened practitioner who facilitates test after test to finally understand what exactly would make the athlete a better athlete - then the question is, does that practitioner also know which parts need to be addressed first?
The body is a complex system and changing any one part of its system is going to affect others. Where do you start? At the level of the feet because these are the first points of contact in running sports? Or at the level of the hip because most force gets generated there? Or should it be the core - after all if the core isn’t working properly force doesn’t get transferred from the arms to the ground and a huge part of power generation is missing. Or should we first work on restoration of the function of the rib cage, which many practitioners globally are specialising in - after all if our breathing is affected, our whole autonomous nervous system will be disregulated and how could we then imagine to express high amounts of forces?
So now let’s say we have our magical practitioner who has all the knowledge possible and all the wisdom to see which part to first work on - the next problem is a big one:
Can he communicate with his client in a way that works?
Who is to say the client understands what is asked of him. Maybe he has preferences that prohibit the practitioner from teaching things in the right order. Maybe he has trauma patterns in his body that don’t allow him to easily access certain ranges of motion from a purely psychological level and he just doesn’t feel safe because the practitioner is an elitist dick who thinks he has the perfect plan for everything.
People aren’t machines where simple input-output scripts work.
To come back to your straw man of my points:
Yes, I do think there is a perfect running form.
But I think it exists at the level of the individual and one needs to take the whole bio-psycho-social environment into account in order to approach the perfect running form.
The information processing approach of motor learning, where there is one right solution to a movement and all others are false or not as good, is being disproven very clearly.
So going about and saying ‘this athlete doesn’t move perfectly in this video’ is just not a very useful way of learning about movement in my opinion - it is misleading and giving false certainty that understanding ‘good mechanics’ in movement is straight forward.
A great example is how Dom has completely different patterns compared to Khedoori yet he continuously takes the same or bigger drops. According to this video here it shouldn’t be possible, no?
After all Dom doesn’t have ‘good form’.
But is that really true? How would you know?
Looking forward to your reply Joey,
I hope your tone can change a little bit after I’ve clearly taken time to make my argument and don’t come with any ill-intent.
One thing I'll take issue with is the whole "collapsing is always worse than staying upright". In my personal experience doing high drops the more you can draw out the impact the softer it becomes. Now I'm sure he means just having to your neck or back sling around unintentionally. But a forward collapse into the hands assisting with the drop is really good for me. And while I don't think I've done some heights like kehdori has. I know I've hit a few 15ft or so drops in my years.
That being said I do have a slight overuse injury in my right knee. However that occurred after doing to much Wallrun practice without alternating the foot I use. And without giving my leg enough rest. I can still do Parkhurst as good as ever I just have to make sure to give my legs decent rest now. The injury is getting ever so incrementally better as time goes on. I'm sure in about a year I won't even feel it even after harsh training.
Love it! liked, commented and subscribed. Keep up the good work. And would love to see you break down fighters just like someone else mentioned.
Could you make an analysis video on @Verky02’s kongs? I’d love to see how his technique compares to Toby’s.
this!!!
Very interesting video but I'm not sure how sensible it is for any aspiring athlete to try to emulate athletes who specialise in long drops. We don't really have data on the long-term health implications of these stunts, and people such as Khedoori and Dom Tomato do seem to be outliers in terms of what is biologically possible.
@Flipssss Yeah but you can't really dissipate ALL of the impact, only mitigate it. I'd like to know how bones and joints hold up to this kind of movement over time. Still this video is super useful as it is showing how to handle these forces in the extreme. Not everyone wants to take huge drops, but that doesn't make the knowledge of good technique less beneficial.
this channel is gold. thank you so much
Amazing video, thanks again Theo!
This video is what I’ve been looking for for years
Thx man. Please do one on Dom Tomato as well!
would never've guessed that he is 5'4
Yeah he isn't too big/chunky so to me he always looked somewhat slim/gangly so I assumed he was tall. He's at a very good bodyweight to take such huge drops
167cm is 5'6
Awesome job man!
Thank you for these videos
This is the video we all really wanted
Please consider doing some sort of tricking analysis in the future if that’s possible, your view on things is very interesting
Woo! I loved this one. Big up
Epic analysis thx
Great video
Great video & analysis! May I suggest to find a room with less echo to record yourself talking? As a non-native speaker I sometimes find it hard to understand you, even though I know English pretty well
this made me want to train more than ig pk videos have been for some reason... thanks
And what about giving time to your tendons, ligaments, and bones to adapt gradually for at least 2 years? Great video. Thanks
I'd love a video about George! I believe he has a more general body composition as a lot of people out there and some how he's managed to explode it to an incredible level
I always look forward to use rolls on drops but it seems fun to explore / warm up my legs to adapt this type of technique
Taking a straight drop to a roll is really hard, and rolling gets more effective with forward momentum. Almost all of Khedoori's drops being discussed here are nearly straight down which is likely why you don't see much rolling going on.
i loved the part where callum was running. those cheeks must have been clapping. i would love to see more on why callum is so jiggly and how that helps him as an athlete bad a strong independent sexy man
Dangerous content. Thanks for sharing.
Bigggg brain. Good video.
I would be very curious to hear your views on aggressive skaters like Eugen Enin and how they manage to contort their bodies and feet into such unusual positions.
i wonder what Khedoori thinks about this :D ?
great analysis mate!
Can you do a video on how to properly correct posture.thqnks
Is it possible that gluts are trained by the force of landing? The height and the speed must apply an amazing force and compensate for it. I don't train parkour but I do calistanics. I wonder if the eccentric movement actually causes more growth. I will test it with boxjumps. Instead of putting more force into the jump I am trying to create more force in the downward movement with the best possible form as explained in the video.
thank you!
damn never knew sht went thi deep crazy, have you sent this to him?
Michael "Thicc Boi" Khedori
I’ll debates this cause with twisting and proper technique you use one knee more than another to keep close to a 90 and increase the time of the impact which decreases its force as well as with surface area if he went into a roll form without rolling forward this seems to be the best absorption method... just as a pk roll is perfect for running high drops without forward speed this method would be safer than the one kediri uses in this but at that he does have incredible strength and can get away with this like you said
Good video
Now we just need to see a picture of you standing next to someone we have been standing next to before.
How do i stop rolling my ankle all the time? :D
You need to do dom tomato yesterday
And you need to turn your knees outwards for maximum glute activation. Khedori does not do it, but Dom does. You can test squatting down with knees turn outwards and without as well. The latter feels heavier and tighter around knees, whereas the former feels good.
Little typo. Is "muslce" a torn muscle ? ;)
this is great
Nice!
Mike Tyson punch power and movement would be great. He is like no other
I used to like doing big drops in my teens id jump from 1st floor balconies or roofs or trees now im 42 my knees and ankles are fine but back is well messed up
4:52 - Had to pause after this.... xD
Usually my butt and back hurt after my longer training sessions..
like the entire back mostly the top I got
some insane muscle there and i don't workout besides parkour rn
i wonder, what am i doing wrong when my lower back is always hurting? even after training... i like to drop and standing long jumps, but i know my absolut limits are at like 2m deep, or 2,7m wide with ~95kg. its so sad being heavy :(
How does Khedoori take height drops?
Theo: He thicc
Would be nice if you spoke a little bit less fast, nearly seems like you want it to be a shorts, otherwise great video
my guy has feather falling 3 boots lmao
Why does he do this, save those knees
Also, commenting for the algorithm 😉
he is just young. I will see him in 40s with.
ight will try some 5m drops after waching this video see how it goes
Maybe start with 4.5 metres 😬👍
Bubblebutt boy 😄
Yeah wait till he gets older he's knees are going to be gone
the glute size 0_o
glute boys
Oh boi he is thic
His gluts are genetics, nothing else, it has nothing to do with parkour, there are powerlifters with huge quads and small gluts, I mean you can affect it little but you cannot avoid genetics, I have the same gluts genetics, I actually hate it, I dont squat with weights at all because when I start, my gluts grow so fast, I have also big quads bud kind of high attached to bone so I have thin knee but upper quads and gluts are thick, If my triceps or chest grow as my gluts hmmmm 😂
First...?
Fake guru Theo
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At least this guy got respect from the athletes featured! 😉
Would you ever consider doing an analysis on a fighter and how they achieve their knockout power through technique and what makes certain fighters unique
Definitely keen to talk about some fighters, not sure who to pick though. So many interesting movers out there.
Mike Tyson in his prime had some next level body dynamics! That would be cool if you are interested.
@@TheoTanchak Maybe make a poll and people can vote?
@@TheoTanchak Francis Ngannou, the current UFC Heavyweight champ, and world record holder for the hardest punch; might be a good start.
@@zachparade2791israel adesanya, ciryl gane, or Francis Ngannou are all good choices I think! Israel moves so much in the octagon and Ciryl is one of the best moves in UFC heavy Weight history!