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I think kigiri and wukong together will shred GB2. One brings buff removal for shield phase, while the other brings stun for saw phase. I'm curious to see how well the stun stacks for wukong during the saw phase.. Love the in depth testing, thanks.
Yeah, early returns are not amazing for Wukong vs. The Saw, but could be a bug. As is it doesn't seem like he can solo it until A3+ and then there's still RNG that can kill your run
Thanks for he test. Tip for Kigiri`s ult: with 0 rage regen in gear and 40% from Pantheon you can ult every first Infernal Roar and every last Meteor Strike. And use basic attacks inbetween.
Good to know! Appreciate the insight ❤️ I think I was more/less on that pace as far as ult usage at least but this was my first time using Kigiri in GB1
Very nice comparison. But u got to admit that the one who gained the most from his awakenings is Kigiri, who gains 3x more dmg from A0 to A5. Plus, Hex artifact is insanely op. It gives him at least 30% more dmg. So for some1 like me, who does not have it, Hex is very bad
Yep, I do in fact point that out about Kigiri at the end of the video! He also starts out the lowest at A0 tbf. No disagreement re: Hex artifact, it's by far the biggest power boost of any exclusive in the game, I love it and I love him! It'll pop out eventually - keep farming!! Thanks for watching ❤️
Just got my kigiri a5 with the frostfall event, so def excited to possibly get another strong limited. Might use my reset book to get kigiri down to a3 and then prio wukong a5 but we shall see how it goes. I love my kigiri
@@UnluckySummons_gg nice! I'm jealous, I want to go hard on the next Kigiri banner. FWIW I think Kigiri ends up being the better boss killer but Wukong is the better hero overall. I'm excited to see how he does I'm GB2
Only thing I could nitpick is that I think Wrath as a lord is better for testing because he has no RNG (extra basic attack) built into his lord skill unlike Torodor. Other than that very informative test video. Great work as always!
Thanks man! I appreciate the thought but over a 5 min fight I don't think a 30% proc is likely to cause much variation, particularly when I've taken an average over 3 runs. Also if you remove the extra attack it's not really representative of the faction's potential imo, at that point I may as well have just dropped them all in lordless. I do see where you're coming from though.
i have a few questions if you dont mind answering, 1- how were they built? doing simultaneous runs means some of them will have better/worse gear 2- what artifacts were they wearing (hex exclusive makes him 2x stronger)
They were all wearing their exclusives artifacts, at max level. The information regarding their gearing/stats is shown in the video, but is also available in the spreadsheet linked in the description. Thanks for watching!! ❤️
Kigiri actually does have some defense ignore on his ultimate, but I agree Wukong's is way better, particularly at high awakenings. We'll see!! My GB2 testing is underway...
Wukong seems like he will be pretty versatile, bringing quite a bit of utility so I think you'll see him in a lot more content than Kigiri who is primarily a boss killer
I stopped spending gems on anything a couple of weeks ago. Should be able to do close to 1k summons and I've got 2 unpolished stones for him...I think he's going to be really good in a number of areas
Can you also test some with Ingrid as the lord please? I know everyone says nightmare is best for them, but curious by how much. Especially as people may be looking to set up a few teams for GB and nightmare does have some other excellent units that can be used.
That's in the plans, certainly I will before his banner. I think the focus on NM (for me at least) is because NM is one of the meta factions right now, so that's where he'll fit in a lot of content. It'll be interesting to see if his individual performance is better as a watchguard though. Watchguard with Ingrid, Kigiri, Lucius, now Wukong...definitely on the rise!
I'm not tempted so much by him,as I already have a 70k auto GB team, 170k+ apoc 2 team. All content on lock. My most wanted champ is constance, so I'll be choosing her as the rate up on the Lyra banner and hope I get lucky with my 7th time summoning for her
I think he will be busted in GVG too, but I am in the same boat as you. I want need Constance but I’m hoping I can get her through nascent, but she is 1-10 that I don’t have.
I get the logic but personally I would at least try to get 1 copy of Wukong! Overall I think he's going to be a much better hero than Constance, and I love Constance. You can always use soulstones on him but only if you have a base copy. Good luck!! I hope you get your Constance ❤️
@@BluntgutsGaming wukong won't do much much really, constance will set both my praetus and Ingrid squads alight,not to mention apoc 2,then dolo gets relegated to apoc 1, more overall damage for the guild. In getting the weekly kills
thank you for the great test! I have A1 Hex and A0 Kigiri. My Kigiri is always far ahead dmg wise. But i do not have the Hex exclusive artifact. Does this artifact make such a huge difference for Hex' dmg?
Yeah with Hex there are 2 things that make a huge difference, the exclusive and getting him to A3. He's one of the best single target damage dealers in the game!
Haha yeah definitely got to pick and choose with the soulstones. I think Lust will be below both Kigiri and Wukong on damage, but she brings more utility than Kigiri. I think Wukong is going to be the best overall hero among the three of them though
How about Hell's lament? Considering the short ULT duration and the small cost, might be interesting to test it out. Also extremely curious how many stuns he puts on Apoc2 phase 1, I'm currently at 10-12 with Jeera A1 and Torodor.
I actually had the same though re: Hells Lament, definitely going to test it but I'm skeptical. Also idk if have a good set even on test unfortunately! Keep an eye out for my GB2 video tomorrow!
Hell's lament is just worse than sb arcana. Say your base crit DMG is 300% and your atk - boss Def is 10k, with lament u deal 10k*3,4*1,3=44,2k. With SB arcana it's 10k*3*1,5=45k Lament is only better with base crit DMG lower than 250%
@BluntgutsGaming tier 3 equipment needs to be buffed honestly. Soulbound is too strong in comparison, especially for long fights which is our end game content.
I couldn't agree more. Imo Moonton has really dropped the ball with their new gearsets, they need to add better damage sets and they need some utility sets for PvP game modes as well
@@Ash_Hull Soulbound Arcana is his best set from what I've seen so far. I need to do some testing on Infernal Roar to see if it might have some situational uses
Currently she's doing 50-60% of A5 Kigiri's damage on the top GB2 teams on global, so good but not really in the same class as Kigiri. We'll see how Wukong translates over to GB2 - I'm working on a video right now testing all awakening levels in a very meta team, hopefully will have it out tonight but it's taken longer than I thought it would
I will pull for him simply because he will be a pain in gvg. Gvg is the only fluid content in wor and i like that. Guild bosses are less of a priority for me coz we will eventually get at that 120k mark.
Yep I agree, there's a lot more ways to hit 120k than there are to build an effective overlord defense haha. He's going to be in every single NM team after next week lol
I'm sure he will be great as a Watchguard hero as well. I've concentrated on NM because it's a more meta faction and I think that's how he'll most often be deployed, but I do want to do some testing to see if Watchguard is a better faction for him individually
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I wouldn't worry about Lust, she should be lower priority imo, even though she's great. I think Wukong will probably help you in more places. Kigiri is probably better at GB2 but I'll be able to answer that better tomorrow! Getting him to A3 is more than good enough though. Imo hold your stones until after the Wukong banner then decide based on how many copies you pull.
I like that you didn’t use Dolores. I feel when she is used the true numbers are fake. I’m still desperate for Arrogance so I’ll probably add him to the Lyra banner and hope. Love the content! Keep it up!
Yeah I love the inspiration heroes but they can produce misleading results if one hero gets more inspiration uptime during their ults. Appreciate it man!! Good luck on Arrogance!!!
@ I do use Dolores but by not using her the damage numbers are more honest. Plus, some people may not have her or the RNG in her kit might not always work out.
@@genpotrait2274 As I said in the video there's no perfect test. It's not Dolores RNG that I'm concerned about, it's a disparity in inspiration uptime across the different units I'm testing. If Kigiri's ult gets more uses in Dolores inspiration than Wukongs does then the test is biased towards Kigiri. Alternately I could hold ults until Dolores' ult is ready but then I'm impacting the uptime of any unit that is sitting at full rage and waiting for Dolores. I stated multiple times in the video that this was a raw damage test done in GB1, not a GB1 damage test. The dragon was acting as a target dummy - if I was trying to test GB1 damage I would have brought a full team to support that kind of test. You're welcome to your opinion on the validity of the test, but calling me "dishonest" is off base and something I don't appreciate
@ I’m very mid game. I don’t have access to the Dolores gear in the shop and I’m guessing many others don’t as well. I do enjoy seeing what the heroes are capable of but I’m willing to bet most people don’t have crazy good test server gear (I sure don’t) or their heroes max skilled. If you have crazy gear and skill crystals to max your heroes you are lucky. I’m just saying it’s nice to see how a hero CAN perform without support.
Yep, exactly, GB1 is one of the few (maybe the only?) places in the game where there is no cap on damage. Typically a fight ends when the enemy's health hits 0, but there is no health bar in GB1 so you can do a true 5 min damage test. If I was trying to max GB1 damage I would have brought a full team with Laya, Laurel, probably Hollow instead of Elowyn, and ofc inspiration
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man, i love this deep dive Content, please keep up the good work, best Wukong Test Video so far 🔥
Thanks, Haze!! I'm really excited for Wukong ❤️
I think kigiri and wukong together will shred GB2. One brings buff removal for shield phase, while the other brings stun for saw phase. I'm curious to see how well the stun stacks for wukong during the saw phase.. Love the in depth testing, thanks.
Yeah, early returns are not amazing for Wukong vs. The Saw, but could be a bug. As is it doesn't seem like he can solo it until A3+ and then there's still RNG that can kill your run
Thanks for he test. Tip for Kigiri`s ult: with 0 rage regen in gear and 40% from Pantheon you can ult every first Infernal Roar and every last Meteor Strike. And use basic attacks inbetween.
Good to know! Appreciate the insight ❤️ I think I was more/less on that pace as far as ult usage at least but this was my first time using Kigiri in GB1
great content mate
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Thanks man!! That really means a lot ❤️
This is awesome, not only showing Wukong but Hex and Kigiri too. Really looking forward to pulling for him! 😁
Me too mate I can't wait!!! Christmas is on 12/27 this year 😜
Very nice comparison. But u got to admit that the one who gained the most from his awakenings is Kigiri, who gains 3x more dmg from A0 to A5. Plus, Hex artifact is insanely op. It gives him at least 30% more dmg. So for some1 like me, who does not have it, Hex is very bad
Yep, I do in fact point that out about Kigiri at the end of the video! He also starts out the lowest at A0 tbf. No disagreement re: Hex artifact, it's by far the biggest power boost of any exclusive in the game, I love it and I love him! It'll pop out eventually - keep farming!! Thanks for watching ❤️
Just got my kigiri a5 with the frostfall event, so def excited to possibly get another strong limited. Might use my reset book to get kigiri down to a3 and then prio wukong a5 but we shall see how it goes. I love my kigiri
@@UnluckySummons_gg nice! I'm jealous, I want to go hard on the next Kigiri banner. FWIW I think Kigiri ends up being the better boss killer but Wukong is the better hero overall. I'm excited to see how he does I'm GB2
@ a3 is absolutely necessary. A5 mainly just takes out the rng for the slash back, but still super potent. WoR is def eating rn
@UnluckySummons_gg yep 100% 🔥🔥🔥
Great stuff, I'm happy for my kigiri A4 I will take him to A5 and then it will wukongs turn to get soulstones
Hell yeah! I'm jealous man, that Kigiri A5 is something else!
I watched Sun Wukong solo nightmare 4. He is on another level!
He's a beast (pun intended), can't wait to get him on global!!
Only thing I could nitpick is that I think Wrath as a lord is better for testing because he has no RNG (extra basic attack) built into his lord skill unlike Torodor. Other than that very informative test video. Great work as always!
Thanks man! I appreciate the thought but over a 5 min fight I don't think a 30% proc is likely to cause much variation, particularly when I've taken an average over 3 runs. Also if you remove the extra attack it's not really representative of the faction's potential imo, at that point I may as well have just dropped them all in lordless. I do see where you're coming from though.
Damn. Kigiri's A3 is something, huh? Thinking of keeping my 2 soulstones till I can get him A3
Yeah he constantly impresses, he's way better than I thought he'd be initially. I'm going to go hard on his banner the next time it comes around
i have a few questions if you dont mind answering,
1- how were they built? doing simultaneous runs means some of them will have better/worse gear
2- what artifacts were they wearing (hex exclusive makes him 2x stronger)
They were all wearing their exclusives artifacts, at max level. The information regarding their gearing/stats is shown in the video, but is also available in the spreadsheet linked in the description. Thanks for watching!! ❤️
@ thank you for the quick reply
For the GB2, Wukong will be the best warrior in the game for now , no doubt.
Kigiri has no penetrate buff , but Wukong has 60%
Is he versatile overall or only good on specific single target content?
Kigiri actually does have some defense ignore on his ultimate, but I agree Wukong's is way better, particularly at high awakenings. We'll see!! My GB2 testing is underway...
Wukong seems like he will be pretty versatile, bringing quite a bit of utility so I think you'll see him in a lot more content than Kigiri who is primarily a boss killer
The more i watch of SWK, the more I want to skip everything and go 400+ in on his banner.
I stopped spending gems on anything a couple of weeks ago. Should be able to do close to 1k summons and I've got 2 unpolished stones for him...I think he's going to be really good in a number of areas
Till date (updated) : 577 Rare, 39 Legendary, 290 Ancients and almost 18k gems.
Same here..i hope i can get 2-3 copies of him cause i have 3 soulstones
@@RomanDvorak-jk4to save the soul stones, don't use them, try saving the rare crystals more.
Saved 520 blues 30 divines 130 ancients 14.5k gems so far...completely f2p 😎 the most I've been able to save and I'm ready to go for ingrid and swk x3
So as a non Payer a0 heroes Hex is the best to go?
Can you also test some with Ingrid as the lord please? I know everyone says nightmare is best for them, but curious by how much. Especially as people may be looking to set up a few teams for GB and nightmare does have some other excellent units that can be used.
That's in the plans, certainly I will before his banner. I think the focus on NM (for me at least) is because NM is one of the meta factions right now, so that's where he'll fit in a lot of content. It'll be interesting to see if his individual performance is better as a watchguard though. Watchguard with Ingrid, Kigiri, Lucius, now Wukong...definitely on the rise!
I'm not tempted so much by him,as I already have a 70k auto GB team, 170k+ apoc 2 team. All content on lock. My most wanted champ is constance, so I'll be choosing her as the rate up on the Lyra banner and hope I get lucky with my 7th time summoning for her
I think he will be busted in GVG too, but I am in the same boat as you. I want need Constance but I’m hoping I can get her through nascent, but she is 1-10 that I don’t have.
I get the logic but personally I would at least try to get 1 copy of Wukong! Overall I think he's going to be a much better hero than Constance, and I love Constance. You can always use soulstones on him but only if you have a base copy. Good luck!! I hope you get your Constance ❤️
@@BluntgutsGaming wukong won't do much much really, constance will set both my praetus and Ingrid squads alight,not to mention apoc 2,then dolo gets relegated to apoc 1, more overall damage for the guild. In getting the weekly kills
kigiri is good, but it's very tiring to have to ultimate when the enemy attacks, too busy for that, and I chose wukong to build
I agree, and just think Wukong is a more versatile hero. Kigiri is amazing but there's a level of micromanagement to his kit that I don't love
thank you for the great test! I have A1 Hex and A0 Kigiri. My Kigiri is always far ahead dmg wise. But i do not have the Hex exclusive artifact. Does this artifact make such a huge difference for Hex' dmg?
Yes. My Hex is my # 2 damage on Apoc 2
Yeah with Hex there are 2 things that make a huge difference, the exclusive and getting him to A3. He's one of the best single target damage dealers in the game!
How does A5 Lust compares then ? Kigiri, Lust and Sun Wukong are all exclusive which is heavy on the unpolished soulstones xD
Haha yeah definitely got to pick and choose with the soulstones. I think Lust will be below both Kigiri and Wukong on damage, but she brings more utility than Kigiri. I think Wukong is going to be the best overall hero among the three of them though
@@BluntgutsGaming Thx for the reply :)
How about Hell's lament? Considering the short ULT duration and the small cost, might be interesting to test it out. Also extremely curious how many stuns he puts on Apoc2 phase 1, I'm currently at 10-12 with Jeera A1 and Torodor.
I actually had the same though re: Hells Lament, definitely going to test it but I'm skeptical. Also idk if have a good set even on test unfortunately!
Keep an eye out for my GB2 video tomorrow!
Hell's lament is just worse than sb arcana.
Say your base crit DMG is 300% and your atk - boss Def is 10k,
with lament u deal 10k*3,4*1,3=44,2k.
With SB arcana it's 10k*3*1,5=45k
Lament is only better with base crit DMG lower than 250%
@@davidepanceri8192 yeah agreed that's why I'd be skeptical but I never trust anything in this game to work like it's written lol
@BluntgutsGaming tier 3 equipment needs to be buffed honestly. Soulbound is too strong in comparison, especially for long fights which is our end game content.
I couldn't agree more. Imo Moonton has really dropped the ball with their new gearsets, they need to add better damage sets and they need some utility sets for PvP game modes as well
Lugaru be like: am i a joke to you?
Lol, maybe next time wolfman :-P
What gear would be best for him? And what about gb2?
@@Ash_Hull Soulbound Arcana is his best set from what I've seen so far. I need to do some testing on Infernal Roar to see if it might have some situational uses
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Where does an A5 Lust rank with these heroes? Really curious. Thank you in advance!
Currently she's doing 50-60% of A5 Kigiri's damage on the top GB2 teams on global, so good but not really in the same class as Kigiri. We'll see how Wukong translates over to GB2 - I'm working on a video right now testing all awakening levels in a very meta team, hopefully will have it out tonight but it's taken longer than I thought it would
I will pull for him simply because he will be a pain in gvg. Gvg is the only fluid content in wor and i like that. Guild bosses are less of a priority for me coz we will eventually get at that 120k mark.
Yep I agree, there's a lot more ways to hit 120k than there are to build an effective overlord defense haha. He's going to be in every single NM team after next week lol
@ everyones gonna farm GR2 for the lightning guard coz that is the only way to get pass wukong XD
Good luck, I've been chasing LG frags for what seems like forever lol
I know Torrodor's def reduction is nice, but would Wukong do well as a Watcher given his ult does so much damage?
I'm sure he will be great as a Watchguard hero as well. I've concentrated on NM because it's a more meta faction and I think that's how he'll most often be deployed, but I do want to do some testing to see if Watchguard is a better faction for him individually
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Lol I like money 😜 thanks man!! Hopefully it doesn't distract from the video too much, but getting sponsorships like this definitely helps me justify spending more time doing something I love ❤️
Have 5 unpolished soulstones . NM4 33k and i have Kigiri Lust and Will get Wukong . Who should I use my soulstones on
I wouldn't worry about Lust, she should be lower priority imo, even though she's great. I think Wukong will probably help you in more places. Kigiri is probably better at GB2 but I'll be able to answer that better tomorrow! Getting him to A3 is more than good enough though. Imo hold your stones until after the Wukong banner then decide based on how many copies you pull.
Dont know why you added hex to this comparison. He is a platform unit.
He's on another level ST, like Kigiri is. I wanted to compare Wukong to the best in the game.
@BluntgutsGaming ok I understand now. Makes sense. Thanks for the reply!
@@sephfurysenpai4161 No problem man! Appreciate you tuning in ❤
I like that you didn’t use Dolores. I feel when she is used the true numbers are fake.
I’m still desperate for Arrogance so I’ll probably add him to the Lyra banner and hope.
Love the content! Keep it up!
Yeah I love the inspiration heroes but they can produce misleading results if one hero gets more inspiration uptime during their ults. Appreciate it man!! Good luck on Arrogance!!!
@ I do use Dolores but by not using her the damage numbers are more honest. Plus, some people may not have her or the RNG in her kit might not always work out.
@@genpotrait2274 As I said in the video there's no perfect test. It's not Dolores RNG that I'm concerned about, it's a disparity in inspiration uptime across the different units I'm testing. If Kigiri's ult gets more uses in Dolores inspiration than Wukongs does then the test is biased towards Kigiri. Alternately I could hold ults until Dolores' ult is ready but then I'm impacting the uptime of any unit that is sitting at full rage and waiting for Dolores.
I stated multiple times in the video that this was a raw damage test done in GB1, not a GB1 damage test. The dragon was acting as a target dummy - if I was trying to test GB1 damage I would have brought a full team to support that kind of test. You're welcome to your opinion on the validity of the test, but calling me "dishonest" is off base and something I don't appreciate
@ I’m very mid game. I don’t have access to the Dolores gear in the shop and I’m guessing many others don’t as well. I do enjoy seeing what the heroes are capable of but I’m willing to bet most people don’t have crazy good test server gear (I sure don’t) or their heroes max skilled. If you have crazy gear and skill crystals to max your heroes you are lucky.
I’m just saying it’s nice to see how a hero CAN perform without support.
Great breakdown keep it up!
Thanks man! Can't stop, won't stop!! ❤️
Wuts up..i pulled 5 leggings lords..no preatus 😢
@@RoyalT225 5 lords?!?! Who'd you get???
Why are you doing this test who cares about guild boss 1
He explained that already. It's a test dummy at this point.
I still care about guild boss 1. I think most of the player base is far more casual than your making it out to be.
Yep, exactly, GB1 is one of the few (maybe the only?) places in the game where there is no cap on damage. Typically a fight ends when the enemy's health hits 0, but there is no health bar in GB1 so you can do a true 5 min damage test. If I was trying to max GB1 damage I would have brought a full team with Laya, Laurel, probably Hollow instead of Elowyn, and ofc inspiration