VW Passat vs Vauxhall Insignia vs Ford Mondeo review - Auto Express
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The family car sector has come under fire in recent years, with buyers abandoning traditional saloons, hatchbacks and estates in favour of SUVs, MPVs and premium models.
However, VW is keeping faith and has just launched a new version of its long-serving Passat, which is now entering its seventh generation. Bosses have been careful not to mess with the hugely successful Passat formula, so the newcomer doesn't look much different to its five-year-old predecessor.
I've had my Mondeo Mk IV Titanium (with its 2.0 litre Mazda Duratec heart) for ten years now. Just the most enjoyable car to drive - even after all these years. I've looked after the maintenance well and the engine is bomb proof. Having said that, the biggest issue I had with it a few years back that nearly made me switch up was the high pressure fuel line which, amazingly, sprang a leak and nearly turned the car into a bomb. But I have a great mechanic who found a way to fix it cheaply instead of redoing the whole fuel system, which would have ended the car. I thought about updating to a new Mondy at that time - and even test drove one a few years ago (and a BMW - don't ask!), but the Mk V really is a totally inferior drive to the Mk IV. They put all the bells and whistles in it and then messed about with one of the best steering/suspension packages ever made and chucked in some really average power plants. Why?!
So, no. even though she's looking a bit tired these days, I'm keeping my 25 grand and sticking with the old girl until either it conks out or I do. Whichever comes first! I just love it.
ludocrat you should've upgraded to BMW
I like to buy Mondeo Mk4 but I want to know if the petrol engine good? I don't like any DPF diesel sensors, I had Octavia and always problems with DPF and injectors.
Standard equipment on the Passat also includes a built in cheat mode for when the car is being emissions tested.
VW are the Lance Armstrong of the motoring world.
+AllyWheels What you dont understand is that almost every pro cyclist uses steroids.Its the same in the motoring world.
funny how the Vauxhall is the basic model, the vw is mid range model and the mondeo is fully loaded what a joke
ruby scott that’s so true its unfair put an SRi up there and then we will see...
ruby scott they do anything to make vauxhall look bad lol, idc they make great cars
ruby scott same thing came in my mind... It has the smallest wheels possible... No wonder it's num...
The mondeo is bacic. Look at the centre console, just a built in radio. Not even navigation or anything fancy...
Jacob P Isn’t the Titanium X a high spec version?
Really happy with my Mondeo MK4, it is such a great car for everything. Sadly I got to excited when the snow came, looks quite rough atm😬
@ Brandon Friesen, the recall of 370,000 Ford vehicles was for the crown vic, due to corrosion. It is aimed at people whom drive in salty and humid climates. Considering the Crown Vic's design age, I could pull up any vehicle of that age and it would have corrosion after many years of driving in salty and humid climates. "the recall affects 73,320 Escape SUVs, and affects only the 1.6-liter EcoBoost unit."
Actually it was the 2.0 ecoboost in the escape having the recall due to a fire hazard, 90,000 of them. They also recalled 370,000 due to corrosion leading to steering failure. And yes, I knew about the recall for the VW's. That was in 2009, the Ford recalls are in 2012-2013. Me or my familys have had 1.6 TDI's, 1.9 TDI's, 2.0 TDI's, 2.8 vr6, 3.6 VR6, and 4.2 V8 and non with fires :)
looking forward to the 2014 Mondeo with Eco engines. They have a premium look (slightly like an Aston Martin.
1.0 litre with 138bhp and 67mpg
#gamechanger
I've driven both the Insignia and Mondeo both with diesel engines (Elite v Titanium). The Mondeo is bigger inside with more boot space as well. It handles a little better as well. Overall though, I preffered the Insignia.
Why the Insignia?
@@joshbacon8241 it looks better
@@robydany8749
I've had two vectra's
they are rubbish compared with my A4 lol
you can't beat VW 😎
@@winniepeg2020yeah, vauxhalls break down so much. The mondeo is so reliable
At all videos the passat is much better than insignia I am not at the same opinion. The insignia is more comfortabale for long distances I think and is probably better for family car. This is a matter of taste (That is my opinion :D).
agreed, I find the passat a bit too common and boring. The insignia was very thrilling when I drove it!
The Mondeo is better than both of them. Try it for yourself.
my b6 passat done 330,000 miles with no problems
1).. when the engine is still cold.
The camshaft is operated via a drive belt (which many other engines use). Ford improved the life of this belt by changing the material and immersing it in oil, reducing friction and giving many benefits.
TIVVT optimises the gas flow through the combustion chamber at all engine speeds, especially at part load as well as full torque. As you may know, it also enables the scavenging process. Combustion gasses are flushed out better and it stimulates the turbo.
not sure which is the better NEW car buy, but for me the mondeo is a fantastic used car. I own a 2009 titanium TDCI and it has everything I would expect a decent daily driver to have... Cruise, AC, DAB Radio, MP3, 17" alloys, Multi disc CD, stop start keyless ignition and hands free bluetooth. Even some nice touches like foldback mirrors, trip computer and half leather seats. Bags of room for everybody inside, a cavernous boot and a silky smooth 6 speed box. I average 60+mpg on the Motorway and 48 in mixed driving,
It cost £2995 from a dealer 4weeks ago (Feb 2018). Mint condition with 12mths warranty 80,000 on the clock
The equivalent passat would be £1500 quid more and the insignia... well the less said about insignias the better
All of these would be great second handers though if you spend a bit of time to find the right one... I have no idea why anybody would want a new car when you can get so much for your cash and still drive round in a car that feels new.
my 1.0 Ecoboost has had over 10k miles already since March, it's actually the first vehicle in the UK to have a 13 plate - I ordered it last summer. My mother drives it sometimes but unfortunately she's so used to autos she forgets to change gear, so we're sometimes sat at 70mph on an A road in 3rd gear... bless her. I'll let you know in a few years time how it lasts. You know Audi's response to Ecoboost? Automated cylinder shut off - yeah, because that'll last a lot of miles! ROFL.
Ford always could build a great chassis that handles well. Mrs has an old MK1 Mondeo estate, its a beaten to death old nail but it still handles and drives so unbelievably well.
we get a whole new passat over here in america :D
I'd take the Insagia "well Regal actualy" cause it's the nicest looking car of those 3 IMO.
When I was valeting vehicles as part of work experience years ago, I came across a woman's M class in which the elec seats and navi screen were malfunctioning. The fact is, all manufacturers find ways to cut costs - whether it be Mercedes with their fake sticker badges, Audi without any fog lights or VW with cheap and tatty interiors, Ford with cheaper wheel air valves, GM with thinner grade steel - all do it.
mondeo wins all the way! and not only just! With 2.0 turbo 203-240 hp it is also economical and really fast! it is also roomier and cheaper to run.
yes but, the interior centre console isn't as modern as the insignia or passat. Also, it design isn't as good as the insignia.
Connie Taylor I drove both ,passat and mondeo .Never tried insignia though. Passat used higher quality materials..but drives terribly.Mondeo on the other hand , has it all acceptable quality, fantstic -dynamic drive reliability, room and absolute pleasure to drive!
As for a external design ,as always matter of taste.
You're talking about the Ecoboost engines. They aren't "all that". The Passat 2.0 TSI is 210PS vs the Mondeo 200. Passat does 39mpg vs the Mondeos 36. More to the point, the VW TSI engines are miles ahead of anything direction injection by another other company. Ford only followed suit when they realised the TFSI and TSI engines were ruining them in the petrol market.
But, Mondeo ' s 2.0L Ecoboost engine is terribly uneconomical!
@@accoladeconsulting9628 no
The components like the new exhaust manifolds have had extra treatment to ensure cracks are not an option. Ford have worked hard on the Ecoboost engines.
the engine on the 2007-present Ford Mondeo
Engine
Petrol engines and Flexible Fuel engines:
1.6L 110 PS I4
1.6L 120PS I4
1.6L 125 PS I4
1.6L 160PS EcoBoost I4
2.0L 145 PS I4
2.0L 145 PS I4 FFV (Flexifuel vehicle)
2.0L 203PS EcoBoost I4
2.0L 240PS EcoBoost I4
2.3L 161 PS I4
2.5L 220 PS I5
Diesel engines:
1.6L TDCi 115PS I4
1.8L TDCi 100PS I4
1.8L TDCi 125 PS I4
2.0L TDCi 115PS I4
2.0L TDCi 130PS I4
2.0L TDCi 140 PS I4
2.0L TDCi 160 PS I4
2.2L TDCi 175 PS I4
2.2L TDCi 200 PS I4
Mondeo!!!
The direct injectors are also located centrally, giving a much cooler and denser fuel to air ratio, independent of the piston's geometry. Whaddya know? More efficiency. The exhaust manifold is also now integrated into the cylinder heads; lowering exhaust temp and also improving the fuel to air ratio even at high speeds. The turbo enables Ford to be the first to get 125ps from a 1.0 (soon to be 150ps for the MK5 Mondy). The small, low inertia rotors of the turbine allow high torque with a...
@ Brandon Friesen, maybe you're thinking of another recall they had before it, because this recall was in about 2011: "Volkswagen has officially announced a recall of 168,275 Jetta TDI and Golf TDI models as well as certain Audi A3 TDI vehicles." the problem stems from the fuel line that feeds injector number two. Over time, the resonance from the injector could cause the line to fail, potentially leading to an engine fire. "The recall covers certain 2010-2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI and Audi A3 TDI models as well as certain 2009-2012 Volkswagen Jetta TDI and Jetta Sporwagen TDI models."
I'm an aircraft maintenance engineer. I know what I'm talking about. The belts are a different material, not rubber. All materials will expand and contract, a belt could be considered better for this as it is less prone to fatigue like metal is when it expands and contracts.
Don't know, have Mondeo and to be honest I have never drived better car.... So big,and yet so quiet. Really great comfort and much, much gadgets inside, utility, seats are awesome and supportive in the corners. Stearing is pure awesomness, smooth and easy. Love that "On the hill start" technology. Hm it beats VW? Could not agree more. FORD all the way..
Regarding the steering, the 'laziness' is fixed with the sport edition if you drive in sport mode.
@robert tucker. I totally agree. The majority of these cars will go to fleet drivers or will be a family car. As long as they don't fall over when cornering, refinement and ride quality are more important.
Er... Ford went into a VW co-venture with the Mk1/2 Ford Galaxy using "Hitlas" 1.9 TDI's so it works both ways. The Ford KA with the 1.3 OHV was built right up until 2008 with the same pushrod engine so it didn't stop 10 years ago. CVH was pushrod and went up to 1.6 and it wasn't just the small engines, most of the Granada V6 engines were OHV pushrod. In fact, pretty much ALL were pushrod!
i think mondeo wins
None of Ford's Ecoboost units are 'prone to catching fire'. The recall, which has now rectified the issue that nobody was hurt or killed in is only concerning the 1.6 units. And not too many of them at that. Meanwhile, we have a recall for 170,000 VW vehicles for a fire risk. Oh dear. :s don't lie, you've never had a 2.5 V6, only VWs.
I've run all 3 as lease cars. The Insignia is nowhere near the other 2 IMHO. The lease company actually apologised to me when they switched me out of the Mondeo into an Insignia. Passat was good, the Mondeo is way more roomy particularly in terms of width.
A rare opinion.. somebody who's actually drove all 3 giving a true verdict. Mondeo is the winner all day long if you ask me. Coming from a driver of all 3 myself!!!
They may have worked hard on ecoboosts but they aren't all that great. The 2.0 and 1.6 is prone to catching fire and the 3.5 V6TT let my dad down in the middle of no where.
yani diyorki, passat daha iyi bir imaja sahip, satarken daha avantajli olabilir ancak sürücüye hitap edicek olani mondeo dur, sürüs zevki özellikle direksiyon tepkileri cok daha eglenceli..ayrica daha büyük bu yüzden mondeo kazandi ancak büyük bir farkla degil..
when you stop at 4:11, you can see that there is the mondeo before the facelift. It doesn't have the ne lights etc...
INSIGNIA IS THE BEST EVER
INSIGNIA IS THE BEST EVER
INSIGNIA IS THE BEST EVER
INSIGNIA IS THE BEST EVER
All Mondeo models are now assembled in Germany. Parts are sourced from China, Uk, Belgium, Taiwan, Italy and Germany. They've evolved to become the best all-rounder, in their class. While they rival both the VW and Vauxhall/Opel, they perform very well against the BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Lexus. But, this is a tough class for manufacturers to stand head and shoulders above their rivals. They're all great cars...........personally, I love the Mondeo. It has grown up!
Excellent review but even as a owner of several Ford products, I am surprised that it tops the Passat.
You forget that the oil soaked belt also has less friction, increasing the life of the engine, improving performance and fuel consumption as well as reducing the wear on the belt itself.
True but I wouldn't want my jeans to be oily
i agree with Moha....i have had 2 opel insigna's and they were fantastic. Opel is really so much better than Ford (which drives like a world war one tank) and the featureless VW passat...all good cars but OPEL all the way!!
Currently in class:
- Peugoet 508
- Citroen C5
- Opel Insignia or Ford Mondeo
- Honda Accord
- Mazda 6
- VW Passat or Toyota Avensis
Passat is just too old to compete with any of newer cars in class, and Peugeot 508 and Citroen C5 are just too good to be beaten by any of the cars in class. They are by far the most comfortable, have by far the best interiors (especially 508), handle great (especially 508), have great engines, best equipment and overall feel like better cars than others.
Are you kidding? The Insignia has a better interior than the Passat? What exactly were you injecting that day? After spending nearly a year living out of a suitcase and having various hire cars, I had my fair share of Passats, Insignias and Mondeos. The only thing that I can agree with is the Mondeo and it's driver appeal - but for everything else, the Passat is leagues ahead. Quality, economy, image and general long haul driving.
The petrol 1.0 Ecoboost is an engine not designed for Focus drivers with high milage requirements - it's a compact car and the 1.0 is for tottering around town, on the school run, going to the shops. Engines like the 2.0 TDCI or even the 83.1 mpg 88g/km 1.6 105ps are for motorway milage. may explain why all '95-'02 Fiestas have such low mileage. Ford isn't the most reliable brand, but they are better rated than VW. The Japanese, not Germans are best for reliability. Honda have best engineering.
The BCMs are probably not much different to those in other vehicles. The power windows, power mirrors, air conditioning, immobilizer system, central locking, etc on all of my fords have never quit on me. My family have a history of experiencing literally hundreds of Fords through rentals on holiday, demonstrator vehicles or actually owning them. Only one car I've ever owned has had an issue with its BCM...
owh so linus tech tips doing car reviews now ?
The Mondeo has always been the benchmark, even for luxury cars. Take a look at the MKV Mondeo, the A4 and A5 won't stand a chance. A guy I know is getting rid of his 2007 7 Series 5.0 For a 2014 Mondeo soon.
mondeo...bench mark and luxury can not be used in the same sentence...😅😅😅 are you for real? this must be a wind up ffs😅😅😅
The Insignia looks better then the Mondeo and Passat,is more comfortable too,not to mention the fuel economy
My vote goes to the Insignia
Its nothing special i know, but im talking about this video. So its wrong to say i dont know what i talking about. The old Mondeo (2007) do not has any chance against the Insignia (2008), so a Facelift is not fair to compare.
All those people saying that vw are boring, its because they are ment to be like that.
This is what german design is, clean and stylish. This is also how Audi design their cars.
Insignia have great design it is beautiful car, mondeo look's like a aston martin in some parts but it looks ok...passat's design is boring but it is the best in quality..
+Mario Losberg I dunno, I've got a late 2014 Insignia estate and it's better quality than my girlfriends dad's bmw 7 series from the same year. Maybe not overall build quality but everything just feels and looks nicer in the Vauxhall, and with onSTAR, intellilink, cruise control as standard it's far better technology wise and on average gets 15+ better mpg all for about 30k less
Vauxhall's have come a long way and right now I'd put them above Ford, VW, Volvo & Skoda. Infact, I'd only put Audi and Mercedes above them in terms of big cars
have you seen BMW 7 series from 2014 ?and you compare it to OPEL ?
Ford does own Aston Martin, I noticed some Ford vehicles have car designs which come from their subsidaries, like an example being the Ford Flex looking like a Range Rover. :D
my b6 passat done 330,000 miles with no problems. skoda ovtavia done 240,000 before that VW best. nuff said.
I had an octavia and the dsg transmission failed after 50000k, wouldnt buy another VAG product, overpriced and over hyped.
We have an American Passat I see they have different models in some contries.
I absolutely hate to hear motor journalist moan on about which car is 'fun to drive'. What exactly does that mean? Then they t go on complaining about steering feel. ALL modern cars with electric power steering, in my experience, all feel the same way. Peugeots to VW/ Audis to Nissans: very light and soft, which to me is a very good thing because it reduces fatigue when battling city traffic. And since when is a Ford Mondeo better than a proper german car? I dont think any person who owned a Mondeo (bought with their own money) will agree after 5 years of ownership. Mondeo reliability was so bad that the local dealership dosent sell Mondeos at all. Their Ford lineup consists of Ford Rangers, Focus' and Fiestas. You hardly see Mondeos on the road here ( yes cars 5-10 yrs old) all junked.
Why is it always assumed that everyone wants to drive round corners flat out all the time? Some cars suit different driving styles better than others. The original Focus was praised for being the best handling car ever made but the ones Ive driven have always felt twitchy and required constant correction to keep in a straight line. I would prefer my Astra mk 3 over one any day, and the focus was so bloody ugly! Just my opinion. Always thought VW dull but well engineered.
The EU KA had a 1.3 OHV until 2002 when they changed it to a 1.3 Duratec. And the fact that Audi, VW and BMW are the cars with most engine failures doesn't really prove your point...
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..You'll think I'm lying but it was a Passat estate my dad had on demo. The central locking for the boot quit. Once the boot was opened it strangely decided to latch in the lock shut position, every time you tried to close it it would bounce back and you could see the decklid wobble, that's how cheap and tatty they are. I agree with you that German vehicles like the 7 series etc have far better engineering but the germans in the Mondeo segment; the Passat the 3, the A4 haven't a chance.
And the Sierra and a Carlton can't be compared because the Sierra is a Group A homologation car, but the Carlton wasn't really made for anything. And only 900 and something were made + that it cost 48 000£. for that kind of money you could have bought a 4x4 cosworth and tuned it to crush that Opel.
so we went from comparing a Passat with 30 less PS with a 240ps mondeo to an Audi RS4 with a lambo engine in it that costs far more than both the Mondeo and Passat combined? Ford hasn't got the brand perception in the UK to create a fast Mondeo. However, in other parts of Europe they wrap the dash in leather and stitch it. It depends on the market - the same reason why the unrefined insignia VXR with the 2.8 Signum engine in it doesn't do too well, either.
Gearbox type doesn't influnence steering feel, which is what he criticised the Passat and praised the Mondeo for.
0:35 I know you must move the leg a bit to make it open the boot,but thats easy for some1 to intentionally plant there or to accidently open it when othe one pass there,a dog or anything.I think a easly pushable button would have been more practical.
funny you should say that, that was a while ago in the US and they recalled the vehicles and they've likely sorted it by now. What was that also about the Golf having an even bigger recall (about 10x the scale) of its engines having a fire risk? Ask for the link if you wish. also, you're right... Ford can't get 400hp out of a 2.0 which shows how they aren't as good as Mitsubishi. In fact, they can get a 1.6 EcoBoost to 60 in 1.9 sec with 600hp.
MONDEO!
Ford, the CAR
yes ,but it was technically mistake by an agent in vauxhall industry in uk .OPEL industry in germany built the best car ,they have ever made in their company with class,model.Here in my country (germany) we compare opel insignia opc as audi s5 and bmw 5 series .much better than audi a4 and bmw3 series and mercedes e class ..so Insignia is such a great car with look and use for business people here ,
Yes. The Beetle. But anyway, Ford don't produce OHV engines anymore and the last car it was used in (over 10 years ago) was the Ford KA. And the only engines that had OHV was the small engines,the biggest was 1.6.
The Falcon is another example, the 361hp 533nm engine is in the regular Falcon, but you can get the performance Falcon FPVs. The FPV GT gives 449bhp with 570nm. watch?v=BM3nGxY9Ua8
The vw Passat B6 was better than B7
Will you elaborate on that?
B6 is nicer looking for one thing.
Ahmed El-Menshawy the cot the cost on the b7. Same with the Jetta
@jonnyd89 This is not a fair test as they have shown a rather basic Insignia and a very high spec Mondeo with the VW somewhere in between. Lower spec Fords have manually operated windows in the rear. (The cheapest Ford Ka still has them in the front, also)
the end of EVERY auto express comparison video "the black wins, but only just!"
If you want a punchy diesel from Ford, they offer a 200ps 450nm 2.2 TDCI which is more than adequate for a Mondeo. But they also ofer a 240PS 2.0 Petrol for even more power.
Is that why the Mondeo gets car of the year award, year in, year out and the A4 doesn't? Thought not. You get nothing more with any A4 than you can with a Mondeo. The Mondeo even has more soft touch, even on the basic Edge models. The A4 is efficient, and a quality, solidly built car, but not as nice as a Mondeo. In fact, when the MKIV Mondeo was launched in 2007, it was a real game changer. Everything about it was just premium and luxurious, every manufacturer went back to the drawing board.
Some say he appears in iMotor, Carbuyer and Autoexpress. Some say (I say) he is a good reviewer. All i want to know is what car dose he drives....
The 2.0 SCTi is probably a push rod it wouldnt surprise me. They turbocharged a 1.6 CVH, put it in an RS turbo and they ran 150bhp through a push rod thats mean't to plod along and they wondered why it was so unreliable? Every other manufacturer was using camshafts even Vauxhall were using them in the Astra E and lets not forget the Lotus Carlton.
Ignore these reviews best just to and test drive the 3 and see what one you like.
I ended up with the Ford going on all the review's by so called pros.
I find it very firm compared to my old vw
No, you don't understand. I'm not saying about the video. I'm saying about the test on the website, it compares relative models. The video is a generalisation of the cars, hence why at 3:59 - he's not changing gear in a Mondeo, but an Insignia. You can tell by the centre console, and at 4:11 the old MK!V Mondeo is shown. Wow, you really don't know what your talking about, other than what features your car has. It's nothing special. The Mondeo offers more of everything for less.
Could you guys do new Passat vs new Mondeo vs new Insignia?
MATS Channel in looks, insignia wins, stunning looking car
@@MrRohanThomas but they would say again that Mondeo is better:))
I only removed one comment due to a typing error, as you can see in your inbox, you may have noticed a similar comment twice. There was a typo in one comment, so I removed it and corrected it.
did you saw the 2013 mondeo? the engine will come in that one but it's pretty pricy
On my CC I have ACC and the steering feel has much better feedback in Sport mode...Standard on my CC GT spec.
would be safe to assume you need the key within the car perimeter
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There's now an optimised offset crankshaft, boosting efficiency.
For the first time ever, there's a 2 stage variable displacement oil pump that ensures that the engine runs at optimum oil pressure in the entire speed range. Ford also designed it to follow the torque curve of a 1.6 TDCI. And you wonder why it got engine of the year awards 2 years running?
Pfft, 'won't last more than 99.999 miles' my arse.
The Passat is a lot more refined than both the Mondeo and Insignia.
Bear in mind that both Ford and Vx inflate list prices i.e. you will work out of a Ford or Vx showroom paying quite a bit less than you would for an equivilent Passat.
VW don't really negotiate prices.
The warranty for it is 100k miles, but that's not a 'It'll break straight afterwards warranty, it's a warranty... much like the majority of vehicles have a 3 year 60k mile warranty, doesn't mean it immediately becomes obsolete afterwards. The 60 reg Galaxy and Touran at work (long term demos) have over 60k and the Galaxy is used more often and feels fresher than the Touran... also, that reminds me - you seriously prefer a car like the Touran?? - yuck. The new Golf we have is impressive though.
@TomozukiII When i say "better company" i mean as in Safer Vehicles, More Reliable vehicles , Sales in Europe and Sales in U.S.A, Technological Progress and last but not least the status and image a company has. For example, VW is know for building the TSI engines in my opinion are the best engines in market.In Greece Skoda's are for taxi drivers ofc there is nothing wrong with that but people buy them cause they are cheaper not better. The more the money you give the better car you will get.
@JELH I'd put it like that probably as well. I like the Insignia , its has the best interior of the 3 in this video, best engines, and feels like a more expensive car. Passat is just below average today. Mondeo is very cheaply built inside, and Mazda is typically japanese, drives good, looks good on outside, but interior is filled with plastic and designed in 10 mins.
how can they test a passat whit active suspension, and an insignia that dosent have it fitted.
I think there is too much emphasis, these days in sporting in vehicular reviewing. Cars and coaches designed to take one from one place to the next. And comfort has been sacrificed in most marques of cars. I salute VW and the yanks for going against this grain, since they are trying to keep certain cars from going down this route. You can tell, also through the use of smaller wheels and larger tyres. This improves ride so much.
It's not because it's a coupe or not, it's because it can't beat the Mondeo.
the new mondeo weighs around 1550 kg for the 1.6 ecoboost at and 1500 for manual and the 2.0 ecoboost with full options gets upto 1710 kg, thats 2 heavy so with the 2.0 tdci it might weigh around 1700kg so it wont b a perfomance beast but looks wise its 2 stylish to be in this segment but overall the MONDEO is just VFM and hence FORD wins, Vw we pay 2 much for the badge
1) Now I'm aware you have knowledge in the engineering dept, I can hold a proper discussion with you, I just didn't want to waffle in your ear if you weren't to understand it. Ford is coming back with its engines. Let's take the new 1.0 for example - Ford engineers have developed a split cooling system, which enables a much faster heating of the cooling liquid. It does this by bypassing the cylinder block in the cold start phase - This leads to less friction in the engine, less fuel use and CO2
@JELH Mazda 6 beats any of these? In terms of what? The quantity of cheap plastic inside?
Now all we need is a car that has VW image, Vauxhall’s interior and Ford’s practicality and driving dynamics. Hmmmm, If only . . .
Well hows the low end torq in a Ford S max 2.0 tdci i mean below 2000 rpm, and is it a beter car than VW sharan and do u think Ford has the potential to compete with premium brands like Audi,BMW etc in terms of quality drivability etc, A VW defenitely has coz i drove a 2.0 tdi Passat and i liked it better than an Audi A4 2.0 tdi
I'm in the car business so i know what i'm talking. Opel have very nice design etc... but are ok driving cars. Not at the level as the new Ford's. I have 3 car's. Ford focus rs 550Hp stage4, Ford S-max 2.2Tdci 200hp with a 250Hp Remap and 550Nm of torque. and a Ford mondeo 2.0 240hp with a remap to 280hp and 410Nm. They are all great cars. The S-max is even better than the Mondeo. Because it has more (feeling) power and you can drive in comfort. Do that in an insignia and you'll get 100 Euro's
am planning to buy a used 2009 vauxhall insignia manual.. Any advices?? Will be appreciated.. Thank you
all of 3 are great. Depends what u need for road. I drived all firms of cars and now i got ford mustang. I want to tell u try more and more cars and u will see what u like.
German cars are typically well made and stylish, though VW are definitely not BMW or Audi standard. In terms of style though, the VW is the best there and it's looks upmarket inside too. But Ford's are extremely fun to drive and better family cars than most rivals due to a lot more space and practicality. But although my head says the Ford is better, the VW's desirability can't be ignored :S
@skoshy Mat Watson - I agree he is excellent at his job and entertaining the viewers :-)
The Mondeo is verging on the executive cars level of luxury. There is no reason as to why it couldn't compete with a 5 series, or an Audi A4 - A5. It's only the brand name that holds it back.
You know something, I don't give a shite if my Mondeo has 'laughable wiring' or the sorts, the important thing to me is that I get a car with some style, some driving dynamics, a bit more punch, safety features, luxuries and yes, better reliability. Fortunately the poorly designed wiring isn't an issue because it never goes wrong for me, and the Passats I have had in the past have gone wrong in all sorts of ways.
Titanium Mondeo Range & some fancy VW Passat Range too vs an entry level Insignia ??? Why the Insignia entry level (almost) against those two ?
@MrZaralios It depends what you describe as a "better" company. For instance I like value for money cars which VW definitely aren`t. They have better quality built but also are too expensive. The design itself is much worse than Fords.