Marvel Events : 00 : Avengers Disassembled

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  • @peterlinfield
    @peterlinfield 3 роки тому +28

    This is an annoyingly pedantic question, but when I recommend this channel should I call it Strange Brain Parts or Overlord Comics? What's the relationship between the channel and the Overlord comics content?

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +38

      To explain: Strange Brain Parts was name I choose many, many years before deciding to upload anything at all. When I first set up this channel, my intention was to upload a variety of content under the Overlord Banner. Overlord Movies. Overlord TV. Short films. And, eventually, I settled on comics as the only focus. Thus the name, Overlord Comics.
      (There was also a theme that these were reviews from the future by a hybrid being cloned from the leftover waste of a dead, human civilization. This hybrid was forced to do reviews for the Overlords it served. This premise was dropped very early on. That's a full explanation for you.)
      So, to answer your question: The brand is Overlord Comics, I guess you could say. It's a name that is indicative of the content being served. Strange Brain Parts is like the shell company that owns it all.

    • @peterlinfield
      @peterlinfield 3 роки тому +5

      @@StrangeBrainParts That makes sense! Thanks so much for the clarification! ✌

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +7

      @Peter Linfield : My pleasure, sir. Apologies for any confusion.

    • @kenlieck7756
      @kenlieck7756 3 роки тому +8

      @@StrangeBrainParts And is this really the first time yiou've had to explain this? I'd think it was a weekly endeavor!

  • @djconvoy
    @djconvoy 3 роки тому +29

    Marvel was working very hard at this point to get me to break some very long purchasing habits

  • @Gennaropacchiano
    @Gennaropacchiano 3 роки тому +26

    This is by far one of my favourite comic book centered channels on the internet. No humor, just professional analysis.

    • @grantwilson4506
      @grantwilson4506 3 роки тому +6

      Agreed. I find most other channels trying too hard to be funny or they skim over a ton of information and provide an unremarkable analysis

    • @BiggestDoucheEver
      @BiggestDoucheEver 3 роки тому

      @@grantwilson4506 This is my exact feeling also.

    • @baskogitlog7276
      @baskogitlog7276 3 роки тому

      yep you said it right. this channel just straight to the point no adlib.

    • @BiggestDoucheEver
      @BiggestDoucheEver 3 роки тому +3

      Or sometime they ethier get too off topic or they have long introductions and beat around the bush in order to increase the length of the video. I swear Comics Explained has like 10min of filter a video

  • @Lazrael32
    @Lazrael32 3 роки тому +39

    Never really thought of this storyline in those terms. But you really make a good point. This was when "nothing will be the same" started. Which could be great if given time to breathe... but it did eventually make everything seem directionless and gave you no reason to get invested in stories.

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +12

      Exactly. And future videos will lay out the pattern that develops.

  • @shoresean1237
    @shoresean1237 3 роки тому +9

    All right, this will take a bit:
    1 - Dr. Strange oversaw all the events he denounced in this book. He guided Wanda's gestational period, even explaining why this wasn't a horrible bad thing. He helped deliver the twins.
    2 - Wanda got herself past this, to the extent anyone ever could. She conjured a view-portal to an AU where Vision and the boys were saved. This showed her it was time to move on.
    3 - Part of this mess was started by the prior writer. Tony was Secretary Of Defense because the prior one turned out to be Red Skull. His ID, Dell Rusk, was described as someone 'no one really knew'. REALLY? Then no one would vote for him. Much as I often held Bush 43's cabinet in contempt, everyone knew who they were. Also, when they did 'New Invaders', John Walker had no problem that the SoD who started the team was Red Skull - the man who engineered the murder of his parents. A casual glance at 'Cap No More' would have told them this.
    4 - This is one of the books that implied that Hank Pym's hitting his wife had been ongoing, which got magnified into Ultimate Hank being a monster. I do not bring up that it was only once to exonerate Hank - that is with him forever, rightfully so. I bring it up because Janet showed true strength, took the hint that he wasn't getting better, and divorced him. She still cares for the man, but had no illusions about him any longer. Yet every new writer brings it up like it was covered up forever and needs to be pulled back into the light of day. To say it was ongoing is to diminish her character.
    5 - Someone else put it best. You can't shake things up if they never have a chance to get settled to start with.

  • @sisyphushappyxvx
    @sisyphushappyxvx 3 роки тому +4

    New Avengers, Brubaker's Cap, Extremis, Young Avengers, and Astonishing X-Men are what brought me back to comics after the Bankruptcy Era pushed me away, and at the time, I was enjoying Bendis' work quite a bit. I enjoyed Civil War and Secret Invasion, but began to see and feel the pointlessness of it all and was pretty quickly tired of the tights and fights books again. That post Marvel Knights era worked for me as a fresh take to reinvigorate my passion for books, but it got old very quickly when it became the standard.

  • @robnokes8465
    @robnokes8465 3 роки тому +15

    Bloody good job, it's crazy yo hear it said out loud but he described perfectly the structure of years of Marvel "events". It also made me think of how many times Bendis would finish a story(in which he quite often wrote himself into a corner) with a single character wrapping everything up with an overly long revelation or massive display of power or both.

  • @jordanl-r2u
    @jordanl-r2u 3 роки тому +14

    Not the biggest Bendis fan at all but I think if he ended his Avengers run with Seige, it would be a lot more fondly remembered. That was a perfect stop point but unfortunately it kept going and going until we got some truly unreadable stories like Age of Ultron and Civil War 2.

  • @darkbats20
    @darkbats20 3 роки тому +5

    Avengers Disassembled is a story that sticks in my mind because how ridiculously stupid Hawkeye's death was.

  • @kliqadamblack
    @kliqadamblack 3 роки тому +7

    While collecting comics in the late 80s and the entirety of the 90s the Avengers were rarely discussed as one of the top franchises at marvel.
    Like him or not the run Bendis had on the Avengers books made them easily one of the top books in the industry

    • @erikwirfs-brock2432
      @erikwirfs-brock2432 3 роки тому +5

      For sure, Avengers was "just" a popular team book until Bendis made it Marvel's answer to the justice league as well as propelling it to outsell x-men, there was a reason Bendis got so much rope later with some more underwhelming runs on other characters.

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +3

      I absolutely agree. It was always something Marvel published, like Fantastic Four. But Mr. Bendis put it firmly on the map and made it required reading for many.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 роки тому +4

      He also fucked over Wanda, dragging her name through the mud, and killed Scott lang for shock value.

  • @ctbinary42
    @ctbinary42 3 роки тому +4

    There were "events" prior to this however they did not cross the entire publishing line. They stayed within their respective corners of the Marvel universe (Mutants, Spidey, etc). You are very correct in stating this was the beginning of the gigantic events that dropped the quality of Marvel storytelling, not that they (and DC for that matter) were any good at the time.

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +3

      Oh, yes, there were lots of events and mini-events and crossovers previously. But I believe this was the not-really-event that set the pattern for future events.

  • @davewrighteous5408
    @davewrighteous5408 3 роки тому +3

    Unlike the original Crisis on Infinite Earth's, all of these events promise the "world will be changed forever" and "nothing will ever be the same" when at the end of it, maybe a few months later, things are EXACTLY THE SAME! Howard Chaykin says that although fans say they want change, they really don't..they want the ILLUSION OF CHANGE. And that's just what these deliver...ugh.

  • @graefx
    @graefx 3 роки тому +1

    That 2004-2006 period between House of M to Civil War was a wild time to be a Marvel fan. Especially being young, it was kinda exciting to see the throw everything at the wall approach and the wild abandon to trying big, crazy ideas, well thought out or not. In retrospect a lot of modern problems were born out of that period of desperation, but at the time in the comic stores, it was hard not to get swept up. That's probably the period I'm most nostalgic for in the same way a lot of GenX remembers the 90s output so fondly.

  • @AngryPeopleStudios
    @AngryPeopleStudios 3 роки тому +7

    God I love your videos. They are so insightful and well-written. I can only imagain how much work goes into them individually, so thank you for your hard work. It is very appreciated

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you and thanks for watching! The work I put into it is to make it worthwhile for those that may be watching. Their time is as valuable as mine and I think they deserve something that respects their attention.

  • @brentsummers6666
    @brentsummers6666 3 роки тому +4

    Always a treat to see a new vid. Great stuff! I had left comics in the 90's and was genuinely shocked and (to be honest) thrilled when i read what this guy Bendis had done to the Avengers. Poor ol Jack of Hearts...

  • @kareliask
    @kareliask 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this, you're by far the best comic channel on UA-cam.

  • @jackdensmore3065
    @jackdensmore3065 3 роки тому +7

    I fucking love this content. Everytime I see a video in my sub box its like a youtube Holiday for me. I wish youtube would allow us to turn on notifications for your channel. But that's not here nor there; great work with every video! Keep it up!

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much. And I agree...I wish notifications were consistent. It's a matter I have zero control over. All I can do is upload and hope for the best.

  • @randalldowling1068
    @randalldowling1068 3 роки тому +5

    Fast forward 15+ years and we have several events going on simultaneously. If everything is an "event," can it be an "event" at all?

  • @ryaneasterling1556
    @ryaneasterling1556 3 роки тому +1

    As you pointed out, events like this generate sales and put popularity but what the comic book companies seem to miss is that these events are supposed to be rare, thats what makes them interesting, there are just to many events going on all the time now and it has made them mundane.

  • @sonofsound
    @sonofsound 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this! Would love to see a longer vid on Event Fatigue, and/or each of the ensuing events like House of M, Secret Invasion, etc.

  • @Ronak1080
    @Ronak1080 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for explanation.

  • @yy-hj4br
    @yy-hj4br 3 роки тому +1

    Bendis really needed better set up and foreshadowing about Wanda and her babies. Having her face shadowed behind Tony is not enough. I think Vision or Jack should have tried to say something during their attacks.

  • @resistancepublishing
    @resistancepublishing 3 роки тому +2

    Marvel created multiple yearly event comics with open ended storylines and that’s coming back to bite them in the butt now with event fatigue and customer distrust. We’re tired of paying high prices for empty promises and low quality

  • @OllieByGolly
    @OllieByGolly 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine, if you will, "X-Men: Disuncannied":
    Subtitled "Bad Weather" all of the clues indicate that Storm has turned evil. Xavier's school is destroyed. Several X-Men die. Despite all of the blatant evidence pointing to Storm as the mystery villain, the TRUE villain is revealed as.... well, it's Storm. The entire might of the X-Men is unable to stop her. Then, when all seems lost, Reed Richards shows up and saves the day. Then he takes Storm with him so he can make her not insane anymore while Xavier and the rest of the X-Men let him.

  • @adrianmercado3092
    @adrianmercado3092 3 роки тому

    Aha! You said it!

  • @rigopeligro
    @rigopeligro 3 роки тому +11

    Bendis gets so much crap for his current work on DC. I always loved his run on Avengers and Daredevil. I met him at a con a couple of years ago, dude is really nice. He signed for every single person line. Have to respect that. Now I want to dig through my longboxes and pull out my avengers books.

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +8

      By all accounts, Mr. Bendis is quite a decent fellow. Personally, I might not enjoy all of his work, but I can see the craftsmanship that goes into it. For better or for worse, depending on one's opinion, he was an important voice/architect of Marvel Comics for roughly a decade.

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- 3 роки тому +1

      His indy work is still amazing. Jinx and aka goldfish hold up. As does most of his jessica jones and any time he writes Lluke cage

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 3 роки тому +1

      @@Getwright-
      Powers is really good too and i quite enjoyed Cover, one of his latest work

  • @OnlineMasterPlayer
    @OnlineMasterPlayer 3 роки тому +1

    Strange parallel but the game Destiny 2 is currently suffering from the exact same type of problem. Each year or season there are new plot-threads, characters and world threatening events introduced, resolved and then rarely if ever mentioned again. It comes back around full circle to the villain-of-the-week formula which these sort of stories are meant to avoid or replace.

  • @leavonfletcher4197
    @leavonfletcher4197 3 роки тому +5

    In anime, they have what is called a "read the manga ending", where you are expected to go and read the manga to get the final explanation on the ending. It sucks,but it is what it is. Bendis gave us the "WTF" ending. I just remember pages and pages of text trying to square the circle that was the story. I am glad you tackled this. I had forgotten how much I dislike this story.

  • @kenlieck7756
    @kenlieck7756 3 роки тому

    This was helpful, thanks a lot! I was only buying a few fringe-y Marvel titles at that time & they
    didn't contain any clues that I could find as to wtf the whole "disassembled" hoohah was about...

  • @catslino5037
    @catslino5037 3 роки тому +1

    So the closure of one evento turned out to be a bigger event? Its like having a dessert made of the missing bread of the hamburger

  • @sephiroth900000
    @sephiroth900000 3 роки тому +1

    Great video sir. I feel you about event fatigue, one thing I am annoyed with Marvel is all these events they been shelling out for the past couple years that were very lackluster to me personally. Realistically I only care about what they do with Doctor Doom. At least with DC events they take time to build up even though some events weren't amazing as well. Again great video on the topic.

  • @erikwirfs-brock2432
    @erikwirfs-brock2432 3 роки тому +1

    Definitely got me to read Avengers for a while when I never really had before, but I lost interest after a few years when I felt like it was going nowhere. Event series are hard to make good in general, but Bendis in particular always wrote ones which were kind of a baffling/underwhelming.

  • @camilocuba6927
    @camilocuba6927 2 роки тому +1

    Ah, the storyline that made me quit buying new comics. I’ve been happily living in the past reading old stories via omnis and epics.

  • @powerbad696
    @powerbad696 3 роки тому +1

    WOW.Good job on tha video.This is pure NOSTALGIA,not really a fan of Bendis's writing I bought it for David Finch's AWESOME artwork!!! GO FINCH!!!! LOL.Met him at a con,man is he SHORT but mad-cool.

  • @notsosmartguy6254
    @notsosmartguy6254 3 роки тому +1

    Bendis did do alot of good for the Avengers but I think in his reboot they lost alot too. Like alot of Classic Avengers and Avengers rogues have been sidelined ever since disassembled

  • @diegoff1172
    @diegoff1172 3 роки тому

    i rly love your content. Now i finally understand why i don't like Marvel's events (except WW hulk), the endings always dissapoint me :(

  • @fnkyron
    @fnkyron 3 роки тому

    Up next: Siege/Dark Avengers/Rage of ultron/etc? Hype, also love the video

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому +3

      Civil War/World War Hulk/Secret Invasion. Those should be the next three. Although, World War Hulk is a bit iffy as an event.

    • @dantecrottogini529
      @dantecrottogini529 3 роки тому +1

      @@StrangeBrainParts
      no House of M? i always thought it was strange how Bendis changed the X-line so much and didn't write an X book afterwards

  • @rolandkatsuragi
    @rolandkatsuragi 3 роки тому +1

    6:13 So that's why Marvel is so eager to slide into the next "blockbuster" event immediately?

  • @DS_Sword
    @DS_Sword 3 роки тому +1

    The avengers as an independent nation recognised by the un had a whole lot of story potential its a real shame it has yet to be reverted i prefer it to them being agents of america or wakanda.

  • @AngelTheAndroid5436
    @AngelTheAndroid5436 Рік тому

    Disassemble vs Injustice / Marvel vs DC

  • @jpboursaw4469
    @jpboursaw4469 3 роки тому

    Event Fatigue, a very apt term. No only in the comics, but bleeding over into their on screen adaptations. Suddenly everything is analysis worthy, weather it has a “hidden” meaning or not. Despite lack of closure, and vague follow ups at best, what made this story enjoyable (for me, at least) was the revelation of something happening all along. Like the Avengers, I just didn’t see it, or didn’t know what I was looking at. (Don’t anyone say Martha, or so help me...!!!)
    Perhaps it’s the amount of time that makes this “event” seem earned, rather than an exploited ploy.
    Another such story was Justice League: Identity Crisis. Though that one did follow up the ramifications almost immediately after, it was enjoyable for much the same reasons.
    But if anyone could compare and contrast that better, it would be >ahem< this channel. Just sayin’.😉

  • @FemboyCatGaming
    @FemboyCatGaming 3 роки тому +1

    DC did tired this approach in the new 52 and rebirth and failed hard. Mostly due to inconsistent editorial directions. How much was put into building up Doomsday Clock?

  • @docbaker3333
    @docbaker3333 3 роки тому

    Please review Kill Six Billion Demons at some point I haven't read much of it but what I have read is Amazing and I really think You will enjoy it is a surreal wild roller coaster that rarely let's you go.

    • @StrangeBrainParts
      @StrangeBrainParts  3 роки тому

      I will look into it. Thank you for the suggestion!

    • @docbaker3333
      @docbaker3333 3 роки тому

      @@StrangeBrainParts Great but word of warning I recommend some help from the KSBD Community to aid in your research and understanding the story as the comic is The Incal cranked up to eleven now with your experience with it I am sure it won't give as much trouble as the Incal but the story is also intentionally contradictory so that would complicate so just do your best to dig through the story as best you can.

  • @vuksikimic1836
    @vuksikimic1836 3 роки тому

    can you do dc events after marvel?

  • @notmyname5591
    @notmyname5591 3 роки тому +3

    Bendis... Oy vey.
    Love the channel though.

  • @tompuce84
    @tompuce84 3 роки тому

  • @muttjones222
    @muttjones222 3 роки тому +2

    This really was the beginning of what I considered the 2000s “Event-era” of Marvel with stories like House of M and Civil War really changing the dynamic and tone of the universe. It wasn’t “90s extreme dark” but more of a grounded, cynical dark mood that wouldn’t really change until Secret Wars. I wouldn’t call this a bad era of Marvel but one that’s a stark contrast to DC at the time making a conscious effort to brighten things up Infinite Crisis onward until the New 52.

    • @ChisomagaIhezie
      @ChisomagaIhezie 2 місяці тому

      I thought Ms marvel (Kamala khan) brought an end to the era(which I call the iron age)

  • @delaneymiller5822
    @delaneymiller5822 3 роки тому

    Ah back in the days when I thought Bendis's writing was pretty good before he just started going on auto-pilot & having other writers "fill the blanks on his decision".....& ruining the LoSH.

  • @AllPwrflSteve
    @AllPwrflSteve 3 роки тому +2

    This comic was garbage. It may have been successful financially but that's because you have the end of a 500 issue series and a relaunch of a brand new series so of course, it will sell well. Narratively it's garbage. Every shocking character killed was brought back shortly after. The entire catalyst of the story was based on Wanda not remembering she had children, even though she always knew she had children and it was brought up 4 times prior to this. (West Coast Avengers 71, West Coast Avengers 75 West Coast Avengers Annual 7, and Avengers vs JLA 3) All 4 times she doesn't go crazy. The whole storyline is stupid.

  • @castironchaos
    @castironchaos Рік тому

    In regards to the idea of the Fantastic Four being the generic and mythical "typical American famiy" with Mom, Dad and two kids: for the past several years, Disney has been deliberately adding elements to its movies that deliberately destroy the "typical American family" idea. The conservative part of our society has been loudly screaming "WOKE!" and labeling this "Disney's WOKE agenda!". This in itself is a topic for separate discussion and argument, as I prefer to say that much of this "WOKE" nonsense has to do with sloppy writing and poor storytelling. Disney's recent expensive turd that was the "Pinocchio" remake is one of the most obvious, and worst, examples of this; but other fan groups have been arguing loudly against Disney in particular by declaring it to be "the WOKE agenda." (See the obnixous and grating Critical Drinker for more about this, though I disagree strongly with a lot of that idiot's opinions and statements.) But I'm saying this in order to state that an MCU Fantastic Four movie, produced by Disney, would still have some element of this inserted into it. Maybe it could be done in a manner that doesn't seem too forced, as with the recent "Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness."

  • @terskatti4994
    @terskatti4994 3 роки тому +3

    Marvel has published mostly turd except for a few diamonds like Punisher and punisher max by ennis, ultimates by millar and...well that's it.