A Mushroom On Fire: Quitting MapleStory
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- A player can only take so much. Nexon has repeatedly taken advantage of its player base for years and this is the culmination of one 2D Mushroom Gamer's thoughts on the current state of MapleStory. Topics:
1. SewAge: Nexon's Failed Blockbuster Update
2. The Community Response
3. Nexon's Response
4. The Current State of MapleStory
5. Quitting the Game
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VIDEO TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction
0:53 Sew Age
3:21 Community Response
7:18 Nexon's Response
16:34 Direction of MapleStory
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i wish there was a way to send this video to wongki, amazing video, and really good critiques and improvement ideas, the communication between nexon and player base should be increase in a way we could improve the game that we like.
It's freaking hilarious how this fiasco played out. No not by Nexon, expected their actions. But the content creators is what surprised me. Athyris that cried on stream about how Nexon is killing the game jumped back into the game the second Nexon's memo came out. Thomps that made a long video about how he's quitting and uninstalled the game also immediately got back into the game once the memo is out.
Like C'mon...The note was calling the content creators to overreacting to the test server and with 0 dignity they accepted it. I can't believe it tbh.
This exactly.
The reason people and creators were upset was bc of the cap. Since the cap was removed due to player feedback, those creators you mentioned returned. It was a huge problem and the playerbase won and were extremely happy about it. Not that hard to understand.
@@TheGRERF Ha. No. Go actually watch their videos. They are outraged at how Nexon is monetizing 6th job at the expense of the players and as a result ruining it. The same creators also conveniently lump reg server issues into the list of their "fix it or I quit list" but throws it all away once the cap is gone. The thing is we didn't win the monetization war. They will introduce the booster soon and this time people will just accept it having experienced the droprate of sol erda fragments.
The fact that you forgot all about the booster and only remember the cap is the exactly what Nexon wants.
Hardcore players want the game to succeed, but also pretend it’s okay to require thousands of hours to reach endgame, and turn their nose up at casuals who quit after a few weeks after realising what one must do to make meaningful progress.
No normal person is willing to wait 2-3 years to access content being released today. Until that changes, the game will always be a meme in the West.
Endgame shouldn't be easy to reach, just because everyone wants to reach it doesn't mean it's justified. IN fact the game is already easy to reach endgame in gms reboot, far easier than other regions. That's why nexon has a very hard time keeping new bosses and content up to date for endgame players and why endgame players just sink meso into their mules because they've already beaten every relevant boss.
@@anonymousl5150 yes, endgamers are typically waiting for new content, but they are statistically less than 1 in every 10,000 players. There are MAYBE 1000 people on the entire planet who are able to jump straight into new zones, new bosses etc., and that's a generous guess. So of course the devs aren't rushing to provide them with new content - it literally doesn't make sense to devote so much of your resources to
This is a glass half empty view, the game does value your time, infact, time is the most valuable asset in this game. The more time u put in, the bigger the output of gains. I believe thats why there is a player player base that loves this game. The p2w aspect was heavily voiced against, and the player base won. Most play this game because it really really REALLY shows time= impressive gains that others cant achieve. I enjoy being higher level, because views like this show what I’ve achieved, is what most want, but because of the time and effort, people with views like this cant get and are angry about it. All entitled to our own views tho, i wont try to push my view on the game on anyone, just sharing my pov
well said
I don’t understand. I didn’t argue this at all. In fact I agree with what you’re saying for the most part…
@@JamoosinYT wasnt a direct attack on you, more of your comment section
@@vukedoggaming7178 ahh I see. Didn’t take it bad at all, was just confused because I didn’t mean for that to come across in the video
Stockholm shows through in this comment so strongly. Good lord
I quit 3 weeks before 6th job release. Glad I did
You should do some kind of podcast. I’ve realized you have a great voice, and I hope you keep making videos solely for that
Wanted to add that I am playing OSRS Leagues IV as well. Man that is such a good game mode. That's actually how progression is supposed to be with content to do from early game all the way till late game raids. Enjoying it thoroughly.
Hope to see you there!
Recently came back to try the 6th job update and WOW. I have never played such an anti-player game.
It feels like every system and mechanic is working against you to discourage multiplayer and make things as tedious and inconvenient as possible for no reason.
There is barely a semblance of the party quest centric community game it used to be.
this is my opinion on why the game is on a a HUGE downhill speedrun the only reason why people stick to this game is the hours we put in the friends we make along the way but the game itself i basically 1 huge solo game.
damn, i used to play osrs a lot, i just recently came back to maplestory have taking a hiatus in 2018. Leagues was my favorite thing to play whenever it was out, played all 3, I really wanted to play this years too, but I don't think i'd have the time atm sadly haha, should def make vids tho, i'd love to check em out
I don't give a shit about any of that but as a reboot player I was hyped to start 6th job and have a lvl 250 buccaneer and everything else is 210. I started a new shadower main and was blown away with how difficult it is to level now. Normally I'd be at chu chu island in a day on a hyper burning character, it's now a few days since I started my character and I'm only 203. I don't have a lot of time for grinding, like I've a life. So I limit myself to 3 hours a day and fuck like, it's looking like it'll be months before I see any 6th job skills on my characters.
I MASSIVELY regret not levelling my buccaneer to 260 before I burnt out, but hindsight is 20:20. I wouldn't mind, but knowing I have the damage to one shot lachelain mobs and being stuck farming tranquil erda cuz I don't even have reverse city yet is heartbreaking. If they just removed the level requirement for going to arcane river areas, maybe even just on accounts that've already done the questlines. It would make a world of difference.
Come back to make your take on the inkwells note pls
Bro that inverse avatar joke was so fucking funny. LOL.
I'm a Beast Teamer main/casual. Level 263 (my only char above level 250)- now I hardly log on cause I cant participate in the 6th job stuff lol
hey did u read that they remove the daily sol erda fragments limit because of community bad responses and coppersan said it and the booster is remove are u sure on ur research
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Yes. I say this in the video as I go through Nexon’s response word for word…
did u read that that remove the booster
Yep! Nexon mentioned they won’t add it at the time of 6th job, but don’t say they will not be adding any form of the booster to the game
Do you still play?
btw they reverse all of this nerfs xD
Yes… I talked about this.
You realize that KMS doesn't even have the daily but the same exact grind and numbers for sol erda (fragments) needed?
Yes. How does this change anything?
[Summarize 1]: Everything about this video speaks volumes of the average mapler who spends more time on pointing and nitpicking out flaws nexon has done in the past to recent times, Calling out maplers who speak against people like you "little bitches" is the most insulting response back to the fans (community) whats wrong with being neutral while trying to find out why nexon make certain decisions that effects the game if theres anything people didn't do during veterans day weekend is be patient and not take everything that is in test servers as finals (Officially) there were bugs and improper changes in during client phases which content creators leaked out despite being against their NDAs and then fans spread misinformation around like wildfire i couldn't imagine the amount of stress community managers had to be interrupted during their holiday weekend days off from the office (To make matters even more worse one of the pink bean bridges was encouraging their fans to server raid the official maple discord server which is against discord ToS rules and wasn't helpful at all only caused the mods to take action against the violence).
[Summarize 2]: Who cares about the current state of the game thats not something any fans should ever worries about and you quitting the game will not scare nexon at all (Its so sickening to still see content creators using this tactic as a way to manipulate their fans/audiences for sympathy and gaining the upper hand as to say their on your side instead of the "enemies" then emotionally guilt trip blame the company for their faults when in truth their the problem). This also goes for others who are quitting the game believing that they "won the battle", in short truth answer is you lost the battle and are being replaced by newer people who will spend more time enjoying the game and appreciating some of the good decisions nexon is doing while there are bad moments from time to time those shouldn't be the main focus finding yourself spending too much being vocal and speaking up for others about the current state of video games in general (maplestory) is sign of an unhealthy development into activism and later poor constructive criticisms. You dont agree with nexon's decisions (leave), You Dont like the Current State of the Game (leave), Do you often find yourself speaking more about the flaws and mistakes nexon has done for gms other regions of maplestory rather than atleast acknowledge some of the good moments and try to see where there coming from with changes and decisions (Calm down or Quit Maplestory Dont inspect others to follow the same and let people enjoy the game you can always find another RPG MMO 2D Game).
[Summarize 3]: At the end of the evening as of typing this comment, MapleStory is Nexon's Franchise and its up to them how they want to take the game whether good or bad intentions the most important role are these following words of wisdom: Adapt, Acceptance, Appreciation, Balance, Borderlines, Boundaries, Change, Courtesy, Challenge, Patience and Mindfulness if you dont want to follow these rules whenever you join a game and its communities or atleast keep in mind then its time to find something else to do its not worth the frustrations and emotional turmoil about the Game. We as the fans of this game are all grown adults and should know when at moments to stop ourselves from fallen into rabbit holes and when to quit via move on from olden experiences theres nothing you can do about maplestory the game will continue to change and growth as the months passed onwards and more more newer people will share their newer experiences about the game to their friends and families etc maybe one day become good influencers of the community we need more than ever here in maplestory (Theres too much negativity and bad influences in the community its awe too hurtful to see, hear, and read about).
You can complain and ignore this comment all you want, but i hope someday as an lookback this reaches out to someone maybe even for someone like another Jamoosin (or prephase Jamoosin) overtime as a thought and reminder that is spoken can not be re-written within historian times, whats done is finish no more can it be fixed nor corrected anymore, disappointment too often leads to ones destruction from reality into delusional mindsets, nostalgia is nice to remember but never to meant to remise often at all leave it all behind but not forgotten where your journeys started, Dont turn back on from quitting it comes out as hyprocirital and liar is borne.
Have a Great December, Jamoosin ☃
- Owli (Owlillium) ☃
Haha I have nothing against people who disagree with me. Don’t worry read your whole comment, but I’ll keep mine concise.
The state of the game and the direction of the game are very important to people who invest their time into it. Maplestory beginning to end is a multi year experience. A bad direction to the game and history to show that it’s not improving is not a good sign for anyone.
My humor is satirical and is built into my points as well. This does not resonate with everyone, but it’s what makes the scripting and video making fun for me. You and others seem to clash with this because it’s abrasive if you don’t find it funny, and that’s fine.
At the end of the day if you enjoy the game play it. This is just my opinion tossed into the internet.
Have a great holiday!
@@JamoosinYT Thats not true at all, Nexon and Maplestory have been making better improvements since the flame incident even further back to the pandemic era. If that was the truth case then why isn't the game like devsisters (cookie run) where they dont give two dimes about their game and every upcoming update is nothing more than microtransaction and removals that nobody even asked. Meanwhile at nexon atleast their TRYING to keep their game alive but in order to do that they need to start catering to maplers by that i mean since the new director ACTUALLY plays maplestory whatever annoys him the most is how the playerbase has been feeling for the past eras about certain aspects of maplestory and so far its been in the right direction.
Maplestory is still a video game that values ur time and investment, but if ur just going to spend more time focusing on the drama and negative aspects of the game (company) then its time to find something else to do cause the last thing maplestory community needs is content creators making cloutchasing/doom voicing contents that can be seen as bad faith in lights which is inappropriate as theres more to maple-life than seeing the dull future maplers believe its truth but in the end its all just fantasy of entitlement and delusions against change with grudges of empty promises never meant to be holded.
If you say so. It hasn’t even been a week since you wrote this and there’s even more broken updates and drama… Other games are better and don’t have these problems with such frequency and severity. It’s as simple as that.
I love the drama.
maple went to shit since big bang tbh. yes im that old lol and also when they started to implement legacy items totems , badge etc.
imma gonna be blunt but your video aged like milk
recent changes to the game have shown the GMS devs are caring about our differences with the korean markets in the most recent months
Inkwell has been putting in strives to show us that the western dev team is putting in the effort to put in changes into both the heroic and interactive worlds and will keep up with the changes knowing that we need to differentiate the regions and even make us different from Maple SEA
Sounds like I got it right. My whole point is that they need separate and stronger leadership to appeal to global market in the global version of the game… new captain at the helm and all that
Many people including you are overreacting to what Nexon has done. They've made the daily for sol erda very powerful, most people haven't seen the calculations to know how good it is. This is why they felt justified in placing a cap. To satisfy hardcore grinders, they removed it and this basically makes us a much faster progression version of KMS which also lack drop familiars to match the fragment and energy rate. While there are a billion things to complain about with Nexon, this isn't one of them but at least the outrage has produced a great result for GMS.
Only thing I agree with is that the early to mid game experience of Maplestory is terrible. Hence the terrible retention rate. New players get lost easily and not many reliable up to date resources are out there. Clearly it's been neglected despite events handing out fast ways to progress legion.
I could see where you are coming from with your first point if they did not simultaneously plan to release a booster that increased the cap. I do agree that a daily is a good idea, and a very positive outcome was reached for Reboot.
Haha no need to agree with me on everything. Glad you watched through and thank you for providing your thoughts!
Are you people being serious with this shit? Its a free to play mushroom game lmao, either play it or don't...its really not that complex.
This shit ain't like World of Warcraft (To name an easy example) where people are actively forced to pay monthly to even play the game on top of paid expansions and have a valid reason to be mad.
It makes sense why people care. It takes a lot of time and effort to progress an account to the end game. They are invested in it.
@@JamoosinYT So? its a free game.
Either keep playing or just quit until they change something that makes it appealing again.
That's the only way you can create genuine change anyway, they're not going to give a shit about a bunch of babies crying while they continue to play and spend on microtransactions 🤣
Not sure how it being free matters.
Other than that you are saying exactly what I said in the video, but as if we are in disagreement
@@JamoosinYT How does it not?
You're not parting with anything except your time and you do so willingly/by choice.
This isn't like World of Warcraft where you're paying both for a subscription and expansions so you can even play the game and stay up to date with the content in the game.
Whining about freebies is what entitled people do with no real hardships in life and in my opinion its extremely disgraceful.
Why are you just looking to argue? Have you watched the video?
you don't sound like you play any other game than the mushroom games, most of your complain just feels like nitpicking lol, most of your complains for super casual players(like myself), don't really apply, i feel like you don't understand players like us...like getting that event ring after days of dailies are already huge for us, or getting superior gollux, or even soloing cra
also a cap to sol erda, really just apply to the 5% of the player base, like how you said the new age only apply to 5% of the player base, really nobody cares about the cap on sol erda..the fact that they listened to 5% of you is wild, what most players concerns are just exp nerfs, but we dont really grind to begin with, even by chance casual players do make it to 260, majority of us won't even touch the cap on sol erda
I played maplestory as my main game for about a year with little else. Other than that I’ve played many other games all the way through and a few mmo’s to end game. This is by far the worst experience I’ve had with a live game and it doesn’t even come close.
There’s too much in your comment to break apart, but I’m just sharing my experience and perspective. Take from it what you will.
Global doesn’t bring in enough revenue to warrant any effort
You can’t be serious. Growing an already multi million dollar market isn’t worth it? This take has never been right and it’s an excuse for the poor state of the game
@@JamoosinYT Anyways you quit already right so its not an issue to you already. If you complain so much and still continue to play you are part of the problem and is why they will never change
w take as per usual and ppl gonna be mad
This game doesnt deserve your time, there are better games out there
so whats the point if this video? lol your basically just talking crap about players for getting happy that nexon corrected their mistake??
Well that’s it isn’t it. It wasn’t a mistake, this has been the story of Nexon’s communication for the last year of my playing at the very least. Backtracking for damage control isn’t really a positive on this front, and it didn’t magically save the game. Things like this happen almost biweekly, and people leave because of it.
Add that on top of pain points I addressed and this is where the game needs to see improvements to get back to a good state and have a solid reputation again.
I make fun of players and Nexon because it’s entertaining for me and people that enjoy my sense of humor. Although obvious satire and jokes seem to be misunderstood at times…
Edit: I really only really talk about bad player takes for the first 1/4 of the video. There’s a lot more in there
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this is the most doomer crybaby video i’ve genuinely ever watched
You think so? Half of it is satire, half of it is genuinely where I think the pain points in this game are.