If any battle emphasises the importance of a clear command structure it was this one. The Scots had a plan and they stuck rigidly to it, the English were badly led and descended into chaos and calamity. The English Knights were indeed brave and heroic but their indiscipline was their undoing. As for the English infantry, though they weren't heavily utilised during the main battle it was during the aftermath when they were in full flight that the pursuing Scots cut them down in their thousands.
That Scottish knight in English service was Sir Alexander Seton. He held lands on either side of the border, and thus was subject to medieval vassal service to both royal persons, being required to provide men and arms for a certain number of days of military service per year. Alexander was most likely the brother of Sir Christopher Seton, who was a great big bear of a man with a six-foot sword. Sir Christopher Seton saved Robert Bruce's live at the disastrous battle of Methven in 1306, was granted Bruce's daughter in marriage, and given the right to display the royal double tressure (the double border) on the Seton arms. Alexander Seton remained loyal to Bruce, was a signatory of the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320, and became governor of Berwick, and wound up dying in battle against the English.
The Auld Alliance was not a one way thing were the Scots sought French protection, Scottish armies frequently went to France to aid the French, they fought with the French against the English in the 100 years war, and fought side by side with Joan of Arch. You could say the Scots aided the French more often than the French aided the Scots.
This is great stuff as always. Bannockburn comes at an interesting time in military history. It's near the beginning of the turning point where heavy cavalry are no longer the end-all on the battlefield. Started in 1302 at Courtrai in France and 1311 at Halmyros in Athens. Infantry realized that they can defeat horsemen with good tactics. The Scots used the infantry square, the Catalan mercenaries used a swamp, and the Flemish used pikes.
Well, we generally descend from more people than we imagine (even if I guess that wasn't what he meant, I assume he talked about a direct male line or something). Assuming all our ancestors were totally unrelated before marrying to each other (which isn't the case though) we would have 2^x ancestors x generations ago, for example 30 generations ago any of us would have 1,073,741,824 ancestors, more than the world population at the time lol. Of course, because of preexisting family ties and everything it's far less, but it just shows that if we go far enough, we still have a lot of ancestors. Most of whom we'll never know about. If you go farther in the past it's worse, after all according to an article in The Atlantic, everyone in the Western world is descended from Charlemagne. Pretty cool.
@@k.v.7681 I think its been said 1 in 200 Asian men have Genghis DNA in them. Its approximately 16 million. We can probably safely double that number for the women as well.
Glad more people are noticing how amazing these battles where and how amazingly the Scottish people fought (as they weren't a true army in the sense the English where) Shout out from Scotland!
Really appreciate you covering these crucial battles. It's amazing you have Scottish relatives, I'm over here in Ireland, Belfast. Obviously the word Scot comes from the Latin Scotti meaning the Irish Celts and Gaelic clanns but it is so interesting that Robert the Bruce is actually buried in Ireland. I have visited his grave on Rathlin Island. I'm also studying Irish medieval history and would be great to see a video sometime about Ireland striking for freedom in 1916.
Or some videos of Irish medieval battles, they're never covered on any of the history channels here. The Nine Years War in particular had many important engagements. Also the Jacobite war from 1689-91 had many significant battles that were hugely important to subsequent Irish history (Aughrim, the Boyne,).
“Out of the Great Sea to Scotland I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.” -Vlogging Through History probably 😂
Finally at 100k! It's been such an amazing journey, at least for me, watching this channel grow so quickly from 40k to 100k, while also becoming one of my favorite yt channels out there. Thanks for posting!
If you havent seen it Outlaw King with Chris Pine is an excellent movie about how Robert the Bruce came to power and defeated Edward II Edit: and 10 seconds later you bring up the movie fml XD
If you go to the museum it is worth paying the extra to refight the battle. A group goes into a separate room with a battle table and each person is in control a unit and you can redo the battle. When I did it the English ended up killing Robert as he had run and hid.
Robert the Bruce is my 22nd great grandfather on my mothers side! Just found that out recently and it definitely makes you feel a kind of connection to these historical events.
As a Scot, I approve of this video and we will be independent again soon, but you were wrong about the auld alliance, Scots fought for France just as much as the French fought for us, but regardless good video :) 🏴🙌
@@DsgSleazy quick summary the Scottish politics far left pansies have been pushing independence on their people quite rigorously for the past couple decades but every vote has ended with the Scottish public voting to remain apart of the uk as it would devastate their economy and force unnecessary borders which will require passports and in turn separating families
@@TheAlba2014 haven’t got an issue with you disagreeing with what I said. The facts still remain all the same, Scotland cannot run an efficient economy without the UK
We don't know the exact numbers present at the battle, but we do know that English losses were significant, especially among the nobility, because the loss of many a local lord impacted the economic records from the time.
I find it interesting that so many of the mistakes made by the English here, were the same sort made repeatedly by the French during the Hundred Years war. While the English, in those wars, worked much more like the Scots did here, fighting largely on foot, as a cohesive force, working together. It seems they learned a thing or two, from their experiences fighting the Scots.
Had multiple ancestors die here. Including Gilbert de Clare and a Scotsman named David Barclay. Love that you did this video! Nvm - got my Gilbert de Clare’s mixed up. This one died childless. It was his father I’m descended from. My bad.
@@TheNotSoFakeNews yeah I’m not complaining one bit! The Gilbert de Clare I am descended from married Edward I daughter Joan of Acre so it’s still super cool!
Please consider reacting to History Marche's "Michael The Brave" series. Would love to get your input and to hear other bits of info that you might add to it. I love your channel and every time you upload a new video i get excited and can't wait to watch it. Thank you.
Yes I hit the like, before even watching it all. I had to didn't I VTH. Cheers from Speybay, Scotland. The film ref the Church scene is, The Outlaw King. Also at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, the main Commander was Andrew Moray (where Morayshire gets its name and where I live)
The commentary says that Gloucester went upstream but shows him going downstream! Nobody knows how many took part on either side. The only sure figure is for the English horse which was around 2,500.
I don’t think you were appreciating that the two streams hemmed in the lumbering English infantry. They really could only be deployed at the very start of the battle
Hey Chris, I am Descendants of King Wu family that once ruler of Shanghai Province in 5th BC. According to Japanese records, the Emperor Jinmu(first Japanese Emperor) from Yamato family was descendents of Wu
I would like to see you do a "top 10 history films" or maybe "Top 10 recent history", "Top 10 classical" etc. I see a few films referenced in your history, but no lists (unless I missed it). 2 Days ago I watched "The Death of Stalin" referenced in one of your videos Yesterday I watched "Thirteen Days" referenced in one of your videos Today I will watch "Robert the Bruce" referenced in this video Seems like you know a lot of historical type films, list please!
I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this conversation other than to say that as a former cavalryman, I grinned ear to ear at "Infantry. NOT. DOING. ANYTHING." But on a serious note, that has persisted into modern times and you've talked about it in past videos. We say in the army that the 3 pillars are shoot, move, commicate. If you can't do 1, fall back on the other 2. If you can't do 2, fall back on the last. Here we see an example of communication failure, with reserve forces not moving. The shoot option is clearly not working with charges being repulsed. That leaves only move... Which means all commands be damned, it's time to retreat
Had a chance to visit the Battlefield back in 2017. Awesome site, and their visitors center has an awesome presentation of the battle, complete with animated table top that you first get to play commander on and then watch what actually happen. Highly recommended. That and nearby Sterling Castle is stunning
I got an idea for a video: play a wwII video game (suggestion, enlisted, people are saying it is the best ww2 shooter out there, PLUS, you control a whole squad, not just one person)
ik Robert the Bruce invaded England and fought at york, he also threatened to both annexe Ireland and northern England which forced the English to submit to peace
about the archers taking the shots away from the rest of the infantry, it's not nearly as bad an idea as it sounds. Archers can move in loose formation minimizing the number of targets a volley of arrows can hit, meanwhile his infantry was moving in a tight formation, making it an easy target for enemy archers.
@@VloggingThroughHistory also, not sure if the Scottish did that, but often, archers came with some pavise shields or similar form of moveable covers to protect themselves from arrows.
My family tree on my dad's side of the family has been tracked all the way back to the "King of Franks" King Charlemagne who lived from April 2nd 748 and died on January 28th 814
I like to think the englishman coming at Bruce with his lance lowered aming at his heart being swing aside with the axe just enough to do no harm and then Bruce bringing or turning the axe just enough to cut through the youths mail so as they rode apart only one of them remanined on horse
They should do Edward III’s counterattack with the astounding victories Dupplin Moor and Halidon Hill, as well as the defeat at Neville’s Cross that nearly completely reversed Bannockburn. Edward III stayed his hand with the Treaty of Berwick and settled on accepting the submission of David II as a vassal of the English crown, but had he been in a less generous mood, he could have very easily gone much further. I support HistoryMarche on Patreon and I’ve recommended making videos on these lesser known but important battles in the ceaseless Anglo-Scottish wars. Everything is connected to everything else. The tapestry of history is woven by threads that never end.
Pretty sure Edward the III was smart enough to realise that defeating Scottish armies charging up a hill at English longbow men is one thing but trying to annex Scotland is another. English battlefield victories were the norm during his reign, just look at the french. But actually occupying and winning a long term war we’re not, Edward lived to see his land gains in France completely reverse. Tried to occupy Scotland it would have led to rebellion, prolonged costly insurgency and eventually defeat. Look at the USA in Afghanistan
@@johnhenry4844 No doubt. Edward was in a position in after Poitiers to demand peace with the tacit implication that Scotland continued to acknowledge the Crown of England as de jure overlord, while cleverly avoiding the blunt occupation of the country which Edward I had settled on. The vagueness of the Treaty of Berwick in this regard could not and would not last beyond Edward III’s reign.
@@CommonSwindler Peace treaty didn’t even last till Edward III died, Scottish border raids picked up by the 1370’s with an English army sent to to retaliate was even defeated at battle of Duns. English commanded by Henry Percy
Outlaw king is actually a good viewing of Robert the Bruce. Could have been great if it were a series but I still enjoyed it. Better than that junk movie brave heart.
I’m a direct descendant of Robert The Bruce so I love this. I Was at Stirling Castle a couple of years ago which was great but didn’t have enough time that day to visit Bannockburn.
Gotta say I really love history and you help educate me on things that aren't exactly what I prefer to look into so thanks a lot. I've actually been considering going to college to get a degree in history and teaching too so I was really wondering where you would suggest I go to inquire about college
I am decended from Clan Munro. From what I know they were originally Irish and part of the people that came back over from Ireland and supported Robert. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Munro
Considering that the film industry is notorious for adding badass but fictional elements to “historical” adaptions it boggles my mind that Outlaw Kings didn’t include Bruce’s victory in single combat…
Very interesting, I didn't know much about that period but I loved Braveheart as a kid (even if I know it's not very historical). Happy to learn more about the broader historical context. And in a way actually, it's a bit related to my country.
I just can’t comprehend how the English infantry was never used. Along with the lack of overall leadership from Edward II, I don’t know what his commanders were thinking.
Love your work, Chris. :) I would recommend you to watch/react to the Culloden 1964 docudrama made by Peter Watkins. It is somewhat hard to watch, not a hollywood version of the battle at all, but it is masterfully designed and shot, with very few resources.
This battle is an example of why you DON'T use your most elite troops (cavalry) at the start of a battle. If they get defeated the infantry will think:"Well these guys just beat our "unbeatable" cavalry. What are we gonna do now?" Use your infantry first, then your elite cavalry. If your infantry falls back, your cavalry which is the most elite force you got, will still maintain morale, because:"Who would expect those peasants to win anyways?"
We're possibly related! How long did it take for you to uncover that royal connection? It took my family some 30 years of genealogy research and ultimately DNA to suppose that one of our dead ends could be the same woman as the daughter of the same name of someone noble enough to trace their ancestry back to the Scottish royals.
@davidmcintyre8145 I've seen all of that and it's absolutely NOT proven. The rightful king is not some dude in Australia. Besides, Charles has multiple other lines of descent from the Plantagenets, making that irrelevant to our discussion. But as for the illegitimacy rumors for Edward IV, there is a TON of evidence that Time Team conveniently ignored to make their argument. Here's a good write up on it. tudorsdynasty.com/edward-iv-legitimacy/
VTH do you know if the Scottish and English were aware and perhaps studied the Battle of the Golden Spurs which happened roughly a decade before and has some similarities?
If any battle emphasises the importance of a clear command structure it was this one. The Scots had a plan and they stuck rigidly to it, the English were badly led and descended into chaos and calamity. The English Knights were indeed brave and heroic but their indiscipline was their undoing. As for the English infantry, though they weren't heavily utilised during the main battle it was during the aftermath when they were in full flight that the pursuing Scots cut them down in their thousands.
That Scottish knight in English service was Sir Alexander Seton. He held lands on either side of the border, and thus was subject to medieval vassal service to both royal persons, being required to provide men and arms for a certain number of days of military service per year. Alexander was most likely the brother of Sir Christopher Seton, who was a great big bear of a man with a six-foot sword. Sir Christopher Seton saved Robert Bruce's live at the disastrous battle of Methven in 1306, was granted Bruce's daughter in marriage, and given the right to display the royal double tressure (the double border) on the Seton arms. Alexander Seton remained loyal to Bruce, was a signatory of the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320, and became governor of Berwick, and wound up dying in battle against the English.
Congrats on the 100K man! This has quickly become my favorite channel on UA-cam.
Just finished watching the entire live stream of your Vlogging Through History Channel hitting 100k subs. God Bless you sir. Keep up the hard work.
Thank you so much!
@@VloggingThroughHistory thx for shouting me out!
@@VloggingThroughHistory Congrats on the 100k! 😎👍
The Auld Alliance was not a one way thing were the Scots sought French protection, Scottish armies frequently went to France to aid the French, they fought with the French against the English in the 100 years war, and fought side by side with Joan of Arch. You could say the Scots aided the French more often than the French aided the Scots.
This is great stuff as always.
Bannockburn comes at an interesting time in military history. It's near the beginning of the turning point where heavy cavalry are no longer the end-all on the battlefield.
Started in 1302 at Courtrai in France and 1311 at Halmyros in Athens. Infantry realized that they can defeat horsemen with good tactics. The Scots used the infantry square, the Catalan mercenaries used a swamp, and the Flemish used pikes.
That feel when you didn't even commit your infantry but still lose 8 times more of them than your enemy because your retreat is a trash fire.
I’m from falkirk near Bannockburn, definitely visit the battle of banockburn museum when you can, would highly recommend 👍🏼
That is so cool that you're descended from Robert the Bruce.
I probably am too
Well, we generally descend from more people than we imagine (even if I guess that wasn't what he meant, I assume he talked about a direct male line or something).
Assuming all our ancestors were totally unrelated before marrying to each other (which isn't the case though) we would have 2^x ancestors x generations ago, for example 30 generations ago any of us would have 1,073,741,824 ancestors, more than the world population at the time lol. Of course, because of preexisting family ties and everything it's far less, but it just shows that if we go far enough, we still have a lot of ancestors. Most of whom we'll never know about.
If you go farther in the past it's worse, after all according to an article in The Atlantic, everyone in the Western world is descended from Charlemagne. Pretty cool.
@@xenotypos Exactly. ANd like, 70% of people or such a high number along those lines are somehow related to Genghis Khan as well.
@@k.v.7681 I think its been said 1 in 200 Asian men have Genghis DNA in them. Its approximately 16 million. We can probably safely double that number for the women as well.
I'm a descendant of both Robert the Bruce and William Wallace
Glad more people are noticing how amazing these battles where and how amazingly the Scottish people fought (as they weren't a true army in the sense the English where)
Shout out from Scotland!
were*
In what sense were the Scots not a true army compared to the English?
Loving the work- keep it up and once again congrats on reaching 100k subscribers, a massive achievement!!!
Really appreciate you covering these crucial battles. It's amazing you have Scottish relatives, I'm over here in Ireland, Belfast. Obviously the word Scot comes from the Latin Scotti meaning the Irish Celts and Gaelic clanns but it is so interesting that Robert the Bruce is actually buried in Ireland. I have visited his grave on Rathlin Island. I'm also studying Irish medieval history and would be great to see a video sometime about Ireland striking for freedom in 1916.
Or some videos of Irish medieval battles, they're never covered on any of the history channels here. The Nine Years War in particular had many important engagements. Also the Jacobite war from 1689-91 had many significant battles that were hugely important to subsequent Irish history (Aughrim, the Boyne,).
“Out of the Great Sea to Scotland I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.” -Vlogging Through History probably 😂
Finally at 100k! It's been such an amazing journey, at least for me, watching this channel grow so quickly from 40k to 100k, while also becoming one of my favorite yt channels out there. Thanks for posting!
Congratulations on reaching 100k. Well deserved Chris, keep up the good work 👍👏👏
If you havent seen it Outlaw King with Chris Pine is an excellent movie about how Robert the Bruce came to power and defeated Edward II
Edit: and 10 seconds later you bring up the movie fml XD
Technically Edward II died in the end rather than being defeated
That's about Loudoun Hill though
Did I just hear Wilhelm screaming?
EDIT: Looks like Wilhelm did a lot of screaming in this video.
If you go to the museum it is worth paying the extra to refight the battle. A group goes into a separate room with a battle table and each person is in control a unit and you can redo the battle. When I did it the English ended up killing Robert as he had run and hid.
Really? That’s very cool. I’ll definitely do it
Dude I remember doing this as a school trip I was a archer unit, somehow got away with killing 2 people, good times haha
Robert the Bruce is my 22nd great grandfather on my mothers side! Just found that out recently and it definitely makes you feel a kind of connection to these historical events.
Love that I found this channel a couple days ago... really great insight from you
As a Scot, I approve of this video and we will be independent again soon, but you were wrong about the auld alliance, Scots fought for France just as much as the French fought for us, but regardless good video :) 🏴🙌
This comment has not aged well at all 😂😂
@@aldhadenglisc6937 Why? (I'm American)
@@DsgSleazy quick summary the Scottish politics far left pansies have been pushing independence on their people quite rigorously for the past couple decades but every vote has ended with the Scottish public voting to remain apart of the uk as it would devastate their economy and force unnecessary borders which will require passports and in turn separating families
@@aldhadenglisc6937 There's been one independence referendum (52% No, 48% Yes) in 2014. The rest of your statement is quite frankly nonsense.
@@TheAlba2014 haven’t got an issue with you disagreeing with what I said. The facts still remain all the same, Scotland cannot run an efficient economy without the UK
Yes! Fantastic to see, all the best from Glasgow, and gratz on 100k, managed to tune in last night
Scotland is looking to be completely independent from Great Britain even now. They probably will be in the next decade.
The numbers tend to be inflated after the battle to make it seem more significant.
We don't know the exact numbers present at the battle, but we do know that English losses were significant, especially among the nobility, because the loss of many a local lord impacted the economic records from the time.
Channels growing like crazy! Congrats, much love!
loves scotland from germany
keep up the good work !
I find it interesting that so many of the mistakes made by the English here, were the same sort made repeatedly by the French during the Hundred Years war. While the English, in those wars, worked much more like the Scots did here, fighting largely on foot, as a cohesive force, working together. It seems they learned a thing or two, from their experiences fighting the Scots.
Great video as always!
I love your videos. Ive started to look into my own family tree mysself because of you.
That is awesome!
outlaw king on Netflix pretty good movie fairly accurate
The Knights Templar fought in their armor in quite a few battles.
Had multiple ancestors die here. Including Gilbert de Clare and a Scotsman named David Barclay. Love that you did this video!
Nvm - got my Gilbert de Clare’s mixed up. This one died childless. It was his father I’m descended from. My bad.
Still, pretty cool
@@TheNotSoFakeNews yeah I’m not complaining one bit! The Gilbert de Clare I am descended from married Edward I daughter Joan of Acre so it’s still super cool!
aw yas, been waiting for you to do scottish history :)
I love the Wilhelm screams they put in there
congrads for 100k subs
Please consider reacting to History Marche's "Michael The Brave" series. Would love to get your input and to hear other bits of info that you might add to it.
I love your channel and every time you upload a new video i get excited and can't wait to watch it. Thank you.
When I see (Earl of) Hereford even thought the English lost I smile as I am from and live in Hereford
I’m 45% Scottish! I would love to research that part of my ancestry!
Mate, your channel is an absolute blast. Great way to spend an evening, or puff a doobie and think about shit
Yes I hit the like, before even watching it all. I had to didn't I VTH. Cheers from Speybay, Scotland. The film ref the Church scene is, The Outlaw King. Also at the Battle of Stirling Bridge, the main Commander was Andrew Moray (where Morayshire gets its name and where I live)
Man I was hoping you would mention Douglas “The black”
The commentary says that Gloucester went upstream but shows him going downstream! Nobody knows how many took part on either side. The only sure figure is for the English horse which was around 2,500.
I don’t think you were appreciating that the two streams hemmed in the lumbering English infantry. They really could only be deployed at the very start of the battle
Hey Chris, I am Descendants of King Wu family that once ruler of Shanghai Province in 5th BC. According to Japanese records, the Emperor Jinmu(first Japanese Emperor) from Yamato family was descendents of Wu
I would like to see you do a "top 10 history films" or maybe "Top 10 recent history", "Top 10 classical" etc. I see a few films referenced in your history, but no lists (unless I missed it).
2 Days ago I watched "The Death of Stalin" referenced in one of your videos
Yesterday I watched "Thirteen Days" referenced in one of your videos
Today I will watch "Robert the Bruce" referenced in this video
Seems like you know a lot of historical type films, list please!
I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this conversation other than to say that as a former cavalryman, I grinned ear to ear at "Infantry. NOT. DOING. ANYTHING." But on a serious note, that has persisted into modern times and you've talked about it in past videos. We say in the army that the 3 pillars are shoot, move, commicate. If you can't do 1, fall back on the other 2. If you can't do 2, fall back on the last. Here we see an example of communication failure, with reserve forces not moving. The shoot option is clearly not working with charges being repulsed. That leaves only move... Which means all commands be damned, it's time to retreat
Appreciate the insight Dominic!
Had a chance to visit the Battlefield back in 2017. Awesome site, and their visitors center has an awesome presentation of the battle, complete with animated table top that you first get to play commander on and then watch what actually happen. Highly recommended. That and nearby Sterling Castle is stunning
love your content!
I got an idea for a video: play a wwII video game (suggestion, enlisted, people are saying it is the best ww2 shooter out there, PLUS, you control a whole squad, not just one person)
I've played Enlisted a few times on my gaming channel
Looking at the map and realising I've been to almost all of these castles 😅
ik Robert the Bruce invaded England and fought at york, he also threatened to both annexe Ireland and northern England which forced the English to submit to peace
As a descendant of the Comyns I’ve never been a fan of Robert the Bruce.
I recently discovered your channel, and I’m hooked. Great content!
CONGRATULATIONS ON 100K
This may be one of my favourite battles ever
about the archers taking the shots away from the rest of the infantry, it's not nearly as bad an idea as it sounds. Archers can move in loose formation minimizing the number of targets a volley of arrows can hit, meanwhile his infantry was moving in a tight formation, making it an easy target for enemy archers.
Excellent point!
@@VloggingThroughHistory also, not sure if the Scottish did that, but often, archers came with some pavise shields or similar form of moveable covers to protect themselves from arrows.
This was an excellent presentation especially the narration by the real person decendant.
My family tree on my dad's side of the family has been tracked all the way back to the "King of Franks" King Charlemagne who lived from April 2nd 748 and died on January 28th 814
:I'm a direct descendant of James lV.
random jacobite: 👀
Oohhh yeesssss!!! Glad you like HistoryMarche!
Same I have watched every vid of historymarche. I only found it out because I watched baz battles then he didn’t upload sooo I found historymarche
Congrats on 100k
Come on, we don't talk about Braveheart.
Yeah I am decended from Robert The Bruce and Edward II. I love hiw geneogy makes history personal.
*Cue the Pipes and Drums*
BLOOD OF BANNOCKBURN!
POINT OF NO RETURN!
lol dang literally was reaching for the keyboard to make a joke about Edward I dying in Braveheart and you beat me a second later.
Congrats on 100k :)
I like to think the englishman coming at Bruce with his lance lowered aming at his heart being swing aside with the axe just enough to do no harm and then Bruce bringing or turning the axe just enough to cut through the youths mail so as they rode apart only one of them remanined on horse
They should do Edward III’s counterattack with the astounding victories Dupplin Moor and Halidon Hill, as well as the defeat at Neville’s Cross that nearly completely reversed Bannockburn. Edward III stayed his hand with the Treaty of Berwick and settled on accepting the submission of David II as a vassal of the English crown, but had he been in a less generous mood, he could have very easily gone much further.
I support HistoryMarche on Patreon and I’ve recommended making videos on these lesser known but important battles in the ceaseless Anglo-Scottish wars. Everything is connected to everything else. The tapestry of history is woven by threads that never end.
Pretty sure Edward the III was smart enough to realise that defeating Scottish armies charging up a hill at English longbow men is one thing but trying to annex Scotland is another.
English battlefield victories were the norm during his reign, just look at the french.
But actually occupying and winning a long term war we’re not, Edward lived to see his land gains in France completely reverse.
Tried to occupy Scotland it would have led to rebellion, prolonged costly insurgency and eventually defeat.
Look at the USA in Afghanistan
@@johnhenry4844 No doubt. Edward was in a position in after Poitiers to demand peace with the tacit implication that Scotland continued to acknowledge the Crown of England as de jure overlord, while cleverly avoiding the blunt occupation of the country which Edward I had settled on. The vagueness of the Treaty of Berwick in this regard could not and would not last beyond Edward III’s reign.
@@CommonSwindler
Peace treaty didn’t even last till Edward III died, Scottish border raids picked up by the 1370’s with an English army sent to to retaliate was even defeated at battle of Duns.
English commanded by Henry Percy
I actually have a connection to clan buchanan which supported Robert the Bruce and fought at Bannockburn.
Outlaw king is actually a good viewing of Robert the Bruce. Could have been great if it were a series but I still enjoyed it. Better than that junk movie brave heart.
Braveheart is a good film. It’s just not historically accurate.
Hey man braveheart is not historically accurate it's still a pretty good movie though
I’m a direct descendant of Robert The Bruce so I love this. I Was at Stirling Castle a couple of years ago which was great but didn’t have enough time that day to visit Bannockburn.
Gotta say I really love history and you help educate me on things that aren't exactly what I prefer to look into so thanks a lot. I've actually been considering going to college to get a degree in history and teaching too so I was really wondering where you would suggest I go to inquire about college
I am decended from Clan Munro. From what I know they were originally Irish and part of the people that came back over from Ireland and supported Robert. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Munro
Considering that the film industry is notorious for adding badass but fictional elements to “historical” adaptions it boggles my mind that Outlaw Kings didn’t include Bruce’s victory in single combat…
Very interesting, I didn't know much about that period but I loved Braveheart as a kid (even if I know it's not very historical). Happy to learn more about the broader historical context.
And in a way actually, it's a bit related to my country.
Congrats on 100k subs!
I just can’t comprehend how the English infantry was never used. Along with the lack of overall leadership from Edward II, I don’t know what his commanders were thinking.
They thought that numbers guaranteed them an instant victory. They weren't expecting what happened to actually happen
As I said before I am a direct descendant of the Bruce clan. Robert De Brus was a grandfather from many generations ago.
There was literally a place called doofes/ dufffes castle
You should react to the cold war in one take video from history bombs. Please keep doing reactions like this
Love your work, Chris. :) I would recommend you to watch/react to the Culloden 1964 docudrama made by Peter Watkins. It is somewhat hard to watch, not a hollywood version of the battle at all, but it is masterfully designed and shot, with very few resources.
I’ll have to check that out before (hopefully) visiting Culloden this summer.
This is a remarkable piece of docudrama, 20 years ahead of its time.
a lot of historians know about strategy or tactics. few are as fluent in both. ps i descend from Malcolm II (MacKenneth)
Off topic. I just finished watching "Atlantic Crossing." Did you watch that by any chance?
This sums up half of my History class this year.
any chance we could get some reactions to movie scenes? Waterloo, master and commander would could both have some awesome scenes to hear about!
As a Scot it’s nice to see some representation love your stuff
(Also have a look at the battle Stirling bridge if you like this stuff)
This battle is an example of why you DON'T use your most elite troops (cavalry) at the start of a battle. If they get defeated the infantry will think:"Well these guys just beat our "unbeatable" cavalry. What are we gonna do now?"
Use your infantry first, then your elite cavalry. If your infantry falls back, your cavalry which is the most elite force you got, will still maintain morale, because:"Who would expect those peasants to win anyways?"
The thing is tho, at this time period, Cavalry was seen as modern day Tanks, they really were massively op at this time.
The chances of seeing this after asking about the T-shirt in a previous WW2 video 😂 Freeeeeedoooom! #IndyRef2 🏴
We're possibly related! How long did it take for you to uncover that royal connection? It took my family some 30 years of genealogy research and ultimately DNA to suppose that one of our dead ends could be the same woman as the daughter of the same name of someone noble enough to trace their ancestry back to the Scottish royals.
I don't suppose you would be willing to see the Battle of Montgisard? I would love you forever :) It's one of my favorite battles to read about.
If you like History marche, then you should also check out kings and generals
You should do Baz Battles videos too
Curious if you plan on reacting to any Kings and Generals video. Put them in par with historymarche
Another battle where several of my ancestors died
Claim the throne bro! Viva La Monarchy
Fun fact Charles III is a descendant of Robert I but has no blood ties to Edward I II or II with the plantagenet line dying with Richard III
Incorrect. All monarchs starting with Henry VIII have been descendants of Edward IV, who was a Plantagenet (Richard III’s brother).
@@VloggingThroughHistory No not according to the research conducted by Time Team the only royal blood Charlie big ears has comes from Scotland
@@VloggingThroughHistory Edward was the son of the queen and an archer at Ruen
@davidmcintyre8145 I've seen all of that and it's absolutely NOT proven. The rightful king is not some dude in Australia. Besides, Charles has multiple other lines of descent from the Plantagenets, making that irrelevant to our discussion.
But as for the illegitimacy rumors for Edward IV, there is a TON of evidence that Time Team conveniently ignored to make their argument. Here's a good write up on it. tudorsdynasty.com/edward-iv-legitimacy/
@@VloggingThroughHistory Who is king of england now? the heir to James VI who himself said that he had no English blood except the wife of James IV
My relatives lived around sterling amd bannockburn and fought against the english
And stood against him, proud Edwards army, and send him homeward, tae think again.
What of Moray that fought with and co lead the forces at Sterling Bridge?
Shame he is forgotten
VTH do you know if the Scottish and English were aware and perhaps studied the Battle of the Golden Spurs which happened roughly a decade before and has some similarities?
like the big red dog i cant resist saying it