I remember you had this issue in the past. This is a problem in some pairings and you can’t really do anything about it apart from placing turbosol in the water as a preemptive measure in smaller doses during breeding season.
I think this baby got canker virus from it's parents...during the first few days of feeding crop milk. Few months ago, i was also facing this canker problem with few babies...later i realised that all those canker affected babies got their first days of crop milk from one Particular pair. So this time i treated the pair, 2-3days before their egg got hacthed. I gave them 50mg of metronidazole each for 3-4days... And this time their babies come out fully healthy!
I'm pretty sure the little things that cause that are in all the pigeons anyway I think it's just stress or certain things that might set it off and it flared up you just have to manage it basically
Hi Kurt, sorry to see BB has cancer. For prevention give Emtryl once every 4 weeks just 25 persent of prescription and vitamin B Kompleks the next day for all your birds, when you are racing.
Thanks for sharing Maney, I hope the little pigeon gets better. I'm wondering if you've ever vaccinated your pigeons? I'm hooked to your channel so I've been watching a lot of your videos but it doesn't seem like you've mentioned it before. Thanks :)
No I haven't worried about vaccinating for the fact that I haven't really properly race in my birds don't mix with other birds and the doses for those coming lots of 100 so I think I will this year but I might have to go in hard with some friends and we can just share the vaccinations between all our birds because we won't have that many
@@ManeyPigeons Amazing, thanks for sharing your wisdom. You've been an inspiration to me to start a channel about pigeons, although my channel is more about the fancy pigeons. Thanks again :)
Hi Kurt, I used those same tabs for canker in one bird once and also used them for one eye cold and they work very good and fast in my opinion. I had to order mine from Spain.
Wee tip for canker removal.....get a red headed match stick remove canker from birds throat them rub red match stick around birds throat....but carry on with your meds in water.....sounds daft but does work
Yeah thank you I'm just learning along the way I never had to deal with this very much so the more the better I guess at the moment till I can figure out a good strategy to deal that in the future
Good morning kirt I agree coloured racing pigeons are a lot more work I have turbosole. It's very effective I will order that resperatory 4 + tabs I will put some in my water not much when parents are feeding young I suppose I don't need to tell you when I hit the likes button because you may already know that I did !
Thanks John yeah coloured birds are a lot of work but I find them far more rewarding and hopefully one day I can win a race with them that will be good show up a few of the coloured haters 😆😆😆
It’s very important before you breed pairs ... one of the things you should always do is prepare and treat pair for canker ... you should also know parents will transfer canker to babies ... and there’s canker that grows in there body that you can not see it ... also clean your floor daily ... don’t let your birds eat feed off poop floor ... clean and disinfect drinkers and feeders ... you should start giving your good birds PMV and PAR 30 days before your pair lays there first egg ... helps there immune system ... check there parents for canker ... take a pic next time so I can see if it is canker ...
Yeah I did check the parents soon as I seen in the babies but there was no sign of it in there I don't know if it's just the stress of a new pairing and it's just flat up in the babies but I'll definitely keep an eye on it and I do have turbosole and the DAC four in one treatment
Yeah I had the same result when I done it with my pied pigeon moo if you remember one dose of that knocked it right out the other baby in this is a little bit slower you will see in following video I guess it just depends case per case
Hi Kurt The parents are the carriers. One of them at least. They will pass it on through youngsters it will have to be kept in check now regularly. Use alternative canker treatments so they don't get immune to it
@@ManeyPigeons hi Kurt i don't know if you can get FLAGYL in Australia that is a great product to use to rotate with , it will neutralise every type of canker .Just seen Martin Robinson comment, he is correct i would also brush ink after scraping with a tiny paint brush. It will dry it up. GOOD LUCK
@@ManeyPigeons thx . We cant get itnin canada per se but i bought a half pound of it on ebay. Should be goid for a while. Gave my sick baby a 2nd round of fluconazole. Was having trouble swallowing. Perked right up, drinking independantly. So glad when baby season is done
I remember Moo and how you treated her!😀 When my avatar pigeon Rudolf got ill, the vet said he'd need to take canker medication for at least 9 days (metronidazol) - and perhaps he did, since he only returned from the City Bird Clinic after 2 months (he'd had other issues too and he almost certainly took some probiotics after the treatment too) - but maybe there are medications for home use that might be pretty effective as well - like the one that worked for Moo😊🐦
I did a bit of checking online about those tablets, I have no experience in veterinary medicines. Interesting to learn about it. Although I treat humans with one antibiotics at a time, this has 4!. Interesting.... I would prefer topical ointments first before I jump into systemic medications... But I guess it's different for pigeon's!
i dont have canker problem.... but the recent issue i m.facing is one chick growing big and the other small... the first egg hatch 2 3 days before 2nd one
@@ManeyPigeons nope... i dont allow them to do that cuz i hate it when 1 chick grows huge leaving other to starve... but the one pair i have has this problem .. i ll show u the pics later u will see the difference
Give antibiotic and antiseptic meds and try to keep cages warm and dry and clean and shiuld get well soon and no mould and wet condition and sun should help too and proper veltilation prayers blessings
Yeah I just recently brought a massive big bottle of apple cider vinegar I might try and increase that just to try and manage it without having to use turbosole
Yeh we could see the swelling quite easily in the vid. Poor squeakers. Your care will soon have them fixed though :-) If anybody wants some more info on common pigeon diseases and treatment Kurt's friend has some good health videos - check out Adam Archer Pigeons channel.
the corn in the nest box tell the story baby's don't need that mix safflower hemp roller mix for canarys and finches high protein mix your on your way get high protein mix for breeders and by a sack of safflower and ad to a high protein mix
I raced in the l a club for years and corn is a big seed and it scratches there throat and causes canker even on the long races when you go to a higher carb diet the older birds come down with canker
@@ManeyPigeons Put it to test. Lot of my baby pigeon dead because of it, I was help by a friend. Around South Africa it's not easy to get pigeon medicine. So it wise to check what you feeling your birds 🤷♂️
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I remember you had this issue in the past. This is a problem in some pairings and you can’t really do anything about it apart from placing turbosol in the water as a preemptive measure in smaller doses during breeding season.
thanks, ill need to keep a closer eye on the young now, maybe check their throats every few days on all pairs
I think this baby got canker virus from it's parents...during the first few days of feeding crop milk.
Few months ago, i was also facing this canker problem with few babies...later i realised that all those canker affected babies got their first days of crop milk from one Particular pair.
So this time i treated the pair, 2-3days before their egg got hacthed. I gave them 50mg of metronidazole each for 3-4days...
And this time their babies come out fully healthy!
yeah will make sure i re hit the parents before the next round of eggs hatch and also have it in the water to avoid the babies getting it next time
Make sure to give antibiotics up to 7 days 3-4days isn't enough to get rid of the infections and you will have a repeat 😊
hi maney..what cause that sickness..from jamaica
I'm pretty sure the little things that cause that are in all the pigeons anyway I think it's just stress or certain things that might set it off and it flared up you just have to manage it basically
Hi Kurt, sorry to see BB has cancer. For prevention give Emtryl once every 4 weeks just 25 persent of prescription and vitamin B Kompleks the next day for all your birds, when you are racing.
thanks!
Thanks for sharing Maney, I hope the little pigeon gets better. I'm wondering if you've ever vaccinated your pigeons? I'm hooked to your channel so I've been watching a lot of your videos but it doesn't seem like you've mentioned it before. Thanks :)
No I haven't worried about vaccinating for the fact that I haven't really properly race in my birds don't mix with other birds and the doses for those coming lots of 100 so I think I will this year but I might have to go in hard with some friends and we can just share the vaccinations between all our birds because we won't have that many
@@ManeyPigeons Amazing, thanks for sharing your wisdom. You've been an inspiration to me to start a channel about pigeons, although my channel is more about the fancy pigeons. Thanks again :)
What about the two breeders they have canker as well because they have feed the babes?
yeah they have theirs in the water
Hi Kurt, I used those same tabs for canker in one bird once and also used them for one eye cold and they work very good and fast in my opinion.
I had to order mine from Spain.
Do you have a link so I can purchase some of the tabs.
Wee tip for canker removal.....get a red headed match stick remove canker from birds throat them rub red match stick around birds throat....but carry on with your meds in water.....sounds daft but does work
Yeah thank you I'm just learning along the way I never had to deal with this very much so the more the better I guess at the moment till I can figure out a good strategy to deal that in the future
Yes that works. Then brush ink on it to dry it up.
Natural treatment. Whole black pepper seeds will work, 2-3 seeds, once application per week will definitely work. Works for on chicken also.
These pigeons sure are lucky to have you man😇😎
Is kancer from feeding
Good morning kirt I agree coloured racing pigeons are a lot more work
I have turbosole. It's very effective I will order that resperatory 4 + tabs
I will put some in my water not much when parents are feeding young
I suppose I don't need to tell you when I hit the likes button because you may already know that
I did !
Thanks John yeah coloured birds are a lot of work but I find them far more rewarding and hopefully one day I can win a race with them that will be good show up a few of the coloured haters 😆😆😆
I think he was stressed of somthing because they are outside and kept seeing like a pest and got stressed out
Yeah I'm not sure I don't have any problems with the babies in the box beside them so I'm not sure if that's the problem
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It’s very important before you breed pairs ... one of the things you should always do is prepare and treat pair for canker ... you should also know parents will transfer canker to babies ... and there’s canker that grows in there body that you can not see it ... also clean your floor daily ... don’t let your birds eat feed off poop floor ... clean and disinfect drinkers and feeders ... you should start giving your good birds PMV and PAR 30 days before your pair lays there first egg ... helps there immune system ... check there parents for canker ... take a pic next time so I can see if it is canker ...
Yeah I did check the parents soon as I seen in the babies but there was no sign of it in there I don't know if it's just the stress of a new pairing and it's just flat up in the babies but I'll definitely keep an eye on it and I do have turbosole and the DAC four in one treatment
Surprisingly canker disappeared that fast ...
Yeah I had the same result when I done it with my pied pigeon moo if you remember one dose of that knocked it right out the other baby in this is a little bit slower you will see in following video I guess it just depends case per case
Maney Lofts so you seen the canker tissue in there mouths ...
How do u pair up your brids
it is very easy
Hi Kurt The parents are the carriers. One of them at least. They will pass it on through youngsters it will have to be kept in check now regularly. Use alternative canker treatments so they don't get immune to it
thanks! might have to grab something else also just to rotate it around!
@@ManeyPigeons hi Kurt i don't know if you can get FLAGYL in Australia that is a great product to use to rotate with , it will neutralise every type of canker .Just seen Martin Robinson comment, he is correct i would also brush ink after scraping with a tiny paint brush. It will dry it up. GOOD LUCK
Where u get your nest?
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Maney Lofts nest I meant
After how many months will your baby pigeons be ready to breed
around 3-5 months
@@ManeyPigeons that is fast
Hope the lovely little baby is better soon, glad the other ones over the canker.
thanks!
Hey mate how many tablets in a box of DAC Respiratory ..?
I need that product .... thanks
i think its 40-50 i got my off ebay from the states i do need to try get more of the Dac pharma products i do like them
Hope ya get ya birds sorted m8
thanks!
What chemicals are in your 4 in 1?
maybe go to the dac pharma website and see there is so many 4 in 1 mixes
@@ManeyPigeons thx . We cant get itnin canada per se but i bought a half pound of it on ebay. Should be goid for a while. Gave my sick baby a 2nd round of fluconazole. Was having trouble swallowing. Perked right up, drinking independantly. So glad when baby season is done
Oh I hate it when that happens. I hope your birds work well I'm sure they will recover I need to get better at spotting it early in the canker process
thanks all seems to be good now!
I remember Moo and how you treated her!😀 When my avatar pigeon Rudolf got ill, the vet said he'd need to take canker medication for at least 9 days (metronidazol) - and perhaps he did, since he only returned from the City Bird Clinic after 2 months (he'd had other issues too and he almost certainly took some probiotics after the treatment too) - but maybe there are medications for home use that might be pretty effective as well - like the one that worked for Moo😊🐦
i will need to look into it more see if i can find some other medications that will be helpful
@@ManeyPigeons I'm sure you'll find good and effective stuff😊 And after the treatment they'll need some probiotics too😉
What is a canker pls reply
the yellow stuff in their throat
I did a bit of checking online about those tablets, I have no experience in veterinary medicines. Interesting to learn about it. Although I treat humans with one antibiotics at a time, this has 4!. Interesting....
I would prefer topical ointments first before I jump into systemic medications... But I guess it's different for pigeon's!
thanks! will look into it a little more!
When I looked at a sick pigeon it looked greem, would that be canker?
it can be green / grey at times
i dont have canker problem.... but the recent issue i m.facing is one chick growing big and the other small... the first egg hatch 2 3 days before 2nd one
yeah thats a strange one, do they sit on the first egg right away? start incubating it?
@@ManeyPigeons nope... i dont allow them to do that cuz i hate it when 1 chick grows huge leaving other to starve... but the one pair i have has this problem .. i ll show u the pics later u will see the difference
Tablet medication is by far the best... why? Cos its easier and there's no messing around with dosage with powders/liquids in water.
oh yeah water ones are the worst but good for prevention
I had one baby with very bad canker and i had to cull it. The nest mate survived but flew away when it got older
sorry to hear
So beautiful and very nice baby pigeon
You are so kind
👍👍 happy healthy Pigeons 👍✌️.
thanks
Give antibiotic and antiseptic meds and try to keep cages warm and dry and clean and shiuld get well soon and no mould and wet condition and sun should help too and proper veltilation prayers blessings
Biggie it’s growing first
Yeah I'm hoping he starts eating by himself already he's taking his time
Your pigeons are good
thankyou!
Carnizadole is good for treating that , apple cider vinegar in the drinking water also helps 👌
Yeah I just recently brought a massive big bottle of apple cider vinegar I might try and increase that just to try and manage it without having to use turbosole
@@ManeyPigeons can't do any harm mate 😁
It's amazing what you can do 🐦
thanks
Yeh we could see the swelling quite easily in the vid. Poor squeakers. Your care will soon have them fixed though :-)
If anybody wants some more info on common pigeon diseases and treatment Kurt's friend has some good health videos - check out Adam Archer Pigeons channel.
yeah adam is all over that stuff :)
Hope so they get well soon.
fingers crossed
the corn in the nest box tell the story baby's don't need that mix safflower hemp roller mix for canarys and finches high protein mix your on your way get high protein mix for breeders and by a sack of safflower and ad to a high protein mix
yes i have a big bag off safflower i do add more to my mix :) i love saff its the best seed!
Waooowww nice baby...
Thank you hopefully it gets better soon
Moo that’s my girl, what’s she been up to these days, I heard through the grapevine that she’s now married with three kids.
No idea 😪
Maney What the hell do you mean by you have no idea! Now you’ve done it now it’s time to send all of you to the next dimension lol 😆
So cute
thanks!
@@ManeyPigeons Welcome! And I hope you're pigeons and little pigeons are good! :)
Use metrogel 500 tablet for cankar
i might need to get some of those also
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Thank you very much
Very nice 👍🔔🤔
Thank you very much
Welcm sir .send love 🔔👍
Trichomonia is fearsome
Yeah I'm not really liking it
Love moo miss her ❤
yeah she was good
👍🧿👍
thanks
corn in the super mix corn will give the birds canker
oh really?
I raced in the l a club for years and corn is a big seed and it scratches there throat and causes canker even on the long races when you go to a higher carb diet the older birds come down with canker
nice👍👍
Thanks
@@ManeyPigeons my pleasure
@@ManeyPigeons plzz support me my bro
I miss moo
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What about the daddy and the mommy👉
they are fine but they also getting treated
I remember moo
good bird!
Garlic in the water m8
thanks, cloves?
Naic you baby girl pigeons
thanks!
I miss Moo
me to!
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hello
Hi
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I remember Moo that was one of my favourites
yes she was a stunner!
Trust me, you get one of those, if you feed them yellow corn, stop feeding parents corn..🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫
Really that's the first time I've heard that 😬
@@ManeyPigeons Put it to test. Lot of my baby pigeon dead because of it, I was help by a friend. Around South Africa it's not easy to get pigeon medicine. So it wise to check what you feeling your birds 🤷♂️
This is bad news
hope all will be ok
Bang
yes!
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Good work
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Good work keep it up
I do not give medicine to the pigeon, the strong lives and the weak dies
sometimes it is ok to help in this case the young are worth saving for our new flock
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