Doh!!! There was a manual all the time inside the installer package. So the Left stick is on the usual GM notes: D1 for centre snare & E1 for rimshot... the right-stick snare is up on notes D3 (centre snare) & E3 (rimshot) & right-stick toms notes are all up at the top: G3 A3 B3 C4 D4 - sorry, missed that! + there is lots of other notes for different types of hi-hat hits. cymbal hits etc
Hi I don't buy plug-ins but I'll have a look. There are instruments in Logic so I try to use those. I also have Ableton and it comes with a ton. Modo is good for sure.
As a Superior Drummer 3 user, I don't need this, but will watch anything that Matt posts, here! Definitely looks like a contender. Interesting, in that it's a MODELLING instrument, rather than a massive group of samples... has to be said, that the BASIC install for the current SD3 kit is 48GB! And if I was in the market for a virtual drum kit, now, this would be up there as a contender.
@@dancetech Yes. I figured it would be a much smaller install. I also have Modart's Pianoteq piano modeller, which is great, too. Tiny footprint compared to the massive sampling piano libraries around. Currently 15 mins into the video, and I'm thinking that I would have gone down this route, rather than the SD3 route, now. SD3 sounds great, and also has lots of customisation, but if I want the basic kit AND all the standard mics. its 96GB in size. This is Twiggy by comparison. And yes. You're right. It sounds great!
lol, fugging Logic & sticky notes!!!!!!!! SOOOO annoying. I cant see how IK Multimedia do this without samples, but i've searched and cant find any such content so far...i'd assumed maybe they used a sample for the transient attack?? bit like the old d50 type synths, sample for the attack & synthesis for the hold/decay/sustain/release tones but maybe not, if i find the content i'll post it.... the right stick might be something to do with the built in patterns btw, i'll ask them.
I got Superior Drummer 3 which is fantastic overall but it's not intuitive at all as far as I can tell, I really struggle to get what I want there. Modo Drum looks super slick and intuitive, might indeed get it even though I got SD3. I love Modo Bass & this looks like a perfect companion.
Been checking out sample drum libraries but I think I'm going with this instead. What I like is being able to teak any drum anyway you want. I'm most picky about the snare, and I often wish I could tweak the snare just a touch and now you can with this. I have a preconception that samples are better then modelling, but if the modeling is accurately done, it's basically the same digital waveform, is it not? If I didn't know this was modeling I would believe it was samples.
it is insane alright. Yet if you're going for a very realistic drum sound, I believe few people actually have the knowledge to work out what they need to do with all these elements to get what they want... I think it's clearly an engineer's plug in and its excellence will be lost on your average bedroom producer... You're obviously having a lot of fun with it... which is cool to watch
@@Willigrow The presets sound really weird to me as well as the official demos. It's not quite on par with Superior Drummer 3 (can be machine-gunny, less features, the rooms sound kinda meh etc.) but I can still get much better sounds out of it than the presets offer.
@@Tremendouz Yeah I don't like the presets out of the box as well. But I find the interface very intuitive and easy to understand, so it is easy for me to sculpt the preset and make the sound I like. Didn't really have the machine gun problem, maybe try making the hitting area bigger for more variety. Also I usually never use the rooms that come with the plugins, I prefer to use my reverbs and rooms. But yeah, if the Superior fits you needs, no reason to switch.
I use modo drums and I love them. I am just quite confused about the meaning of OH and Room there. Are they there just for people who don't want to use reverbs and busses directly in DAW? I send all drums to a unique track in DAW and I adjust them there. I also send them to a drum bus where I use compression, EQ, and so on and I send them to a reverb bus. Does it have meaning for me to think about OH and room with this approach?
OH and room are there to replicate real physical drum recording. Overhead microphones are used to capture a complete image of the drum set and glue it together (including often pieces of the kit that don’t have their own dedicated microphones). It’s not really a reverb thing it’s just something you can edit to physically model the exact way you would want to record physical drums but like virtual.
I should be sleeping. I'm watching this instead. Now I can't sleep;. lol This is any serious drum tweaker's full scale insanity dream! Just daaaamn! And best part, no sampling! Truly insane! awesome walkthrough.
Thanks for this tut. I am not a book-worm as such. I am really trying to find a very short video tutorial on simply setting up a bunch of tracks in my DAW, a single drum channel on each track using a individual elements of the kit on individual tracks (simple as that). The default multititrack load option loads a bunch of tracks , but only plays with the same track 1 as a stereo track. Meanwhile there are a bunch of tracks below it with MODO Drum assigned as a plugin and are doing absolutely nothing! Cannot get my head around something that should be very intuitive. The Mixer in MODO Drum has assignable outputs, But this changes nothing either. A good tip on Multitrack setups would be great. I Know what they sound like. They sound great! Great functions! But Multitracking? How? ...copy/pasting a heap of midi records into new tracks and deleting the unwanted bits is getting extremely painful. :)
Hi all ! Beware that this amazing product need a "AVX Instructions" processor. I didn't new this spécification. I can't install. What a shame… Thanks for all Dancetech perhaps you made a warning but my english isn't so good. Best Regards
Wow! I must say this is pretty delicious! I am thinking of getting it but am wondering about how to manage the data with my Mac mini. Do you have any technique on how best to store this type of plug-in on an external ssd drive? The question is about seamless use of it. Would you be able to make a video on the topic of downloading and storing these very big files on macs and integrate with Logic pro X? Again, thank you and frankly Modo developers should be very excited about your interest in their products because nobody can teach like you do... Remember, there are a lot of us out there watching you from the analogue planet of yesteryears and all this fantastic digital revolution in music is a challenge to grasp. So inspiring!!
There is no samples so the footprint should be manageable. I havent grab it yet myself but that was one of the selling points for it. Gonna do a review myself on this thing.
Can I use this with my eDrum kit as I do with Addictive and EZdrummer? I got the Alesis Pro just for the drum (pads) themselves and I use AD and EZ for the sounds, as the brain/controller on the Alesis isn't all that great for sounds.
@@dancetech Thanks for the response. If it's like EZD and AD you can just use the midi map and hit learn for each drum/cymbal. Hit the learn button, then hit the drum and it's set. Thanks for the info, I may check this out, just for the custom settings, that looks limitless.
@@dancetech THAT is exactly what I need. Can't wait to mess with that Vistalite Bonham kit. Hopefully, they have a Ludwig Symp snare like his that I can swap out! THAT would be awesome! Thanks for all the info sir.
Cool tech, but way overpriced in my opinion. Unless you are really hooked on the drum customization part, both SD3 and BFD3 offers so much more for the money.
It's 50% off right now. If i've learned one thing it's NEVER buy VST's or libraries at full price. They usually all go on massive sale every couple of months. Black Friday for sure. Having it at half price is great. Seeing it on sale having paid full price sucks.
Nice plugin, but I think for the price, and the technical requirements, I must first buy a new pc :/ System Requirements Standalone and 64-bit plug-in. Requires a 64 bit CPU and Operating System. Minimal: Intel® Core™ i5 or equivalent with support for AVX instructions, 8GB of RAM (16 GB suggested)
sterile? are you listening on computer speakers or something? The drum sounds (and cymbals) are pretty much indistinguishable from real mic'd drums, and full of life & all the usual drum artefacts when you listen in isolation... Ok, i didn't want to take up a huge amount of time on close listening of the drums or the video would have gone on for hours, but i think i'll do another couple of videos, one of which will be some close listening of the drums (the other will be on the midi implementation)
@@dancetech I have a couple Avantone cubes powered by a Yamaha P2050 and some KRKs. And I've been in a few sessions, myself, with top studio drummers, and their dynamics sound nothing like that. So, yes, any given hit did sound great. But as an ensemble, I thought it sounded sterile.
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Doh!!! There was a manual all the time inside the installer package. So the Left stick is on the usual GM notes: D1 for centre snare & E1 for rimshot... the right-stick snare is up on notes D3 (centre snare) & E3 (rimshot) & right-stick toms notes are all up at the top: G3 A3 B3 C4 D4 - sorry, missed that! + there is lots of other notes for different types of hi-hat hits. cymbal hits etc
This is insane lol. So much depth, but also still minimal and intuitive. Great design!
Hi I don't buy plug-ins but I'll have a look. There are instruments in Logic so I try to use those. I also have Ableton and it comes with a ton. Modo is good for sure.
As a Superior Drummer 3 user, I don't need this, but will watch anything that Matt posts, here! Definitely looks like a contender. Interesting, in that it's a MODELLING instrument, rather than a massive group of samples... has to be said, that the BASIC install for the current SD3 kit is 48GB! And if I was in the market for a virtual drum kit, now, this would be up there as a contender.
this is an 8gb install or so!!
@@dancetech Yes. I figured it would be a much smaller install. I also have Modart's Pianoteq piano modeller, which is great, too. Tiny footprint compared to the massive sampling piano libraries around.
Currently 15 mins into the video, and I'm thinking that I would have gone down this route, rather than the SD3 route, now. SD3 sounds great, and also has lots of customisation, but if I want the basic kit AND all the standard mics. its 96GB in size. This is Twiggy by comparison. And yes. You're right. It sounds great!
PS I can often be heard shouting "COME ON!" at my computer! 🤬
lol, fugging Logic & sticky notes!!!!!!!! SOOOO annoying. I cant see how IK Multimedia do this without samples, but i've searched and cant find any such content so far...i'd assumed maybe they used a sample for the transient attack?? bit like the old d50 type synths, sample for the attack & synthesis for the hold/decay/sustain/release tones but maybe not, if i find the content i'll post it.... the right stick might be something to do with the built in patterns btw, i'll ask them.
hehe, How to be djent (i like this guys videos, they are funny) ua-cam.com/video/wfPOANlbyWw/v-deo.html
Can you do a roots reggae video on how to tune modo drum to get that feel. Thanks.
I got Superior Drummer 3 which is fantastic overall but it's not intuitive at all as far as I can tell, I really struggle to get what I want there. Modo Drum looks super slick and intuitive, might indeed get it even though I got SD3. I love Modo Bass & this looks like a perfect companion.
Drums sound really good!
This and the B-3X are now on sale.
It would put me on rations for some time but i'm so tempted.
Very detailed overview & review. And it's a manual too. Thank you.
Been checking out sample drum libraries but I think I'm going with this instead. What I like is being able to teak any drum anyway you want. I'm most picky about the snare, and I often wish I could tweak the snare just a touch and now you can with this.
I have a preconception that samples are better then modelling, but if the modeling is accurately done, it's basically the same digital waveform, is it not? If I didn't know this was modeling I would believe it was samples.
I want this!
for the snare, I think you can only have right or left stick on at a time and that's controlled by the LR button on the bottom left.
nope, the right stick for snare & toms are on midi note numbers up in the 3rd & 4th octaves.
it is insane alright. Yet if you're going for a very realistic drum sound, I believe few people actually have the knowledge to work out what they need to do with all these elements to get what they want... I think it's clearly an engineer's plug in and its excellence will be lost on your average bedroom producer... You're obviously having a lot of fun with it... which is cool to watch
It is very complex, but you have presets if you dont want to fiddle.
@@Willigrow The presets sound really weird to me as well as the official demos. It's not quite on par with Superior Drummer 3 (can be machine-gunny, less features, the rooms sound kinda meh etc.) but I can still get much better sounds out of it than the presets offer.
@@Tremendouz Yeah I don't like the presets out of the box as well. But I find the interface very intuitive and easy to understand, so it is easy for me to sculpt the preset and make the sound I like. Didn't really have the machine gun problem, maybe try making the hitting area bigger for more variety. Also I usually never use the rooms that come with the plugins, I prefer to use my reverbs and rooms. But yeah, if the Superior fits you needs, no reason to switch.
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I use modo drums and I love them. I am just quite confused about the meaning of OH and Room there. Are they there just for people who don't want to use reverbs and busses directly in DAW? I send all drums to a unique track in DAW and I adjust them there. I also send them to a drum bus where I use compression, EQ, and so on and I send them to a reverb bus. Does it have meaning for me to think about OH and room with this approach?
OH and room are there to replicate real physical drum recording. Overhead microphones are used to capture a complete image of the drum set and glue it together (including often pieces of the kit that don’t have their own dedicated microphones). It’s not really a reverb thing it’s just something you can edit to physically model the exact way you would want to record physical drums but like virtual.
I should be sleeping.
I'm watching this instead.
Now I can't sleep;. lol
This is any serious drum tweaker's full scale insanity dream! Just daaaamn!
And best part, no sampling! Truly insane!
awesome walkthrough.
👍 🥁
Thanks for this tut. I am not a book-worm as such. I am really trying to find a very short video tutorial on simply setting up a bunch of tracks in my DAW, a single drum channel on each track using a individual elements of the kit on individual tracks (simple as that). The default multititrack load option loads a bunch of tracks , but only plays with the same track 1 as a stereo track. Meanwhile there are a bunch of tracks below it with MODO Drum assigned as a plugin and are doing absolutely nothing! Cannot get my head around something that should be very intuitive.
The Mixer in MODO Drum has assignable outputs, But this changes nothing either. A good tip on Multitrack setups would be great. I Know what they sound like. They sound great! Great functions! But Multitracking? How? ...copy/pasting a heap of midi records into new tracks and deleting the unwanted bits is getting extremely painful. :)
This is amazing. I’ve been waiting for ages for Roland V-Drum style physical modeling in a vst! How is the cpu hit with this?
Reference it's not a premier, it is a Pearl Reference for shure my friend!
This is a game changer again
Didn't IK recently bring out an actual physical drum machine too?
yes
please, please make a overview on the hats/cymbals!
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Hi all ! Beware that this amazing product need a "AVX Instructions" processor. I didn't new this spécification. I can't install. What a shame… Thanks for all Dancetech perhaps you made a warning but my english isn't so good. Best Regards
this was done on an older 2013 imac i5.
strange because IK Multimedia explain to me that it's impossible to install without a AVX instructions processor…
@@dancetech Will this work on i5 - 4460 processor?
This sounds brilliant! Can it be controlled by logic drummer?
yes.
Lots of control amazing but if you don’t program drums? Is there a pattern builder. If this control was added into Logic Drummer hum
well you just sling the MODO DRUM on a drummer track. the track still does the drummer patterns.
Is there no grooves or patterns with Modo Drums?
yes, watch the video 1400 patterns & fills
Wow! I must say this is pretty delicious! I am thinking of getting it but am wondering about how to manage the data with my Mac mini. Do you have any technique on how best to store this type of plug-in on an external ssd drive? The question is about seamless use of it. Would you be able to make a video on the topic of downloading and storing these very big files on macs and integrate with Logic pro X? Again, thank you and frankly Modo developers should be very excited about your interest in their products because nobody can teach like you do... Remember, there are a lot of us out there watching you from the analogue planet of yesteryears and all this fantastic digital revolution in music is a challenge to grasp. So inspiring!!
There is no samples so the footprint should be manageable. I havent grab it yet myself but that was one of the selling points for it. Gonna do a review myself on this thing.
Modo Drum VS Modo Drum SE ?
different, much less of everything, only 2 kits i think with the modo drum se & 2 basses with the bass se
Can I use this with my eDrum kit as I do with Addictive and EZdrummer? I got the Alesis Pro just for the drum (pads) themselves and I use AD and EZ for the sounds, as the brain/controller on the Alesis isn't all that great for sounds.
yes if you map the drums right to the pads.
@@dancetech Thanks for the response. If it's like EZD and AD you can just use the midi map and hit learn for each drum/cymbal. Hit the learn button, then hit the drum and it's set. Thanks for the info, I may check this out, just for the custom settings, that looks limitless.
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@@dancetech THAT is exactly what I need. Can't wait to mess with that Vistalite Bonham kit. Hopefully, they have a Ludwig Symp snare like his that I can swap out! THAT would be awesome! Thanks for all the info sir.
Is it not possible to remove the reso heads?
you can turn either head right down - if you do that AND turn down the overhead & room feed the drum makes no sound at all
those snares let this down big time.... and the standard Jazz kit with so much reverb.....im sorry , not sold, and i was hoping i would love it.
It IS super customizable. So, just because the presets aren't great doesn't mean that the user can't do that instead.
Is it possible to replicate the Logic Pro X Velocity slider functionality in Cubase 10 Pro (or any other Windows DAW)?
Yeah it sounds good....Joey from Staten Island
Joey Pereira I’m from Staten Island too Joey
@@jamesbalestrino2670 cool brother we should talk sometime any time u want
Modo Drums vs Addictive Drums 2 ???
how much hd space have you got? these are modelled, not samples.
@@dancetech I have plenty of space thanks for that info
Im thinking of buying this
I respect your knowledge man
respect to u
peace
Its size is reported to be 20Gb, so i guess there are a lot of samples hidden inside this "modeling"
reported where?
@@dancetech on official site
I believe the cymbals are sampled
could be. that's the usual way to do it, but I cant find the samples though on my HD so far
oh, weird cos the installer said 12gB if i remember right
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Cool tech, but way overpriced in my opinion. Unless you are really hooked on the drum customization part, both SD3 and BFD3 offers so much more for the money.
No jazzy brushes... lame.
$399.00 is quite steep for a drum module.
It's 50% off right now.
If i've learned one thing it's NEVER buy VST's or libraries at full price.
They usually all go on massive sale every couple of months. Black Friday for sure.
Having it at half price is great. Seeing it on sale having paid full price sucks.
I wish this sounded good
It does when you do an actual drum mix in context with a mix.
It sounds awesome
Nice plugin, but I think for the price, and the technical requirements, I must first buy a new pc :/
System Requirements
Standalone and 64-bit plug-in. Requires a 64 bit CPU and Operating System.
Minimal: Intel® Core™ i5 or equivalent with support for AVX instructions, 8GB of RAM (16 GB suggested)
hehe Claaaaaaawfinger!! Excellent!! :)
Thank you for the Review
Very powerful but way too complicated for me!
fuck that its too complicated and expensive.
Craxy
Not truly physically modeled as IK claims otherwise it wouldn't take 11 GB on your hard drive.
it's just more bloatware and shiny new graphics!!
Addictive drums 2 slays them all.
Well, I like your presentation but I hate the way this sounds. Very sterile, great interface. Might be good as sample reinforcement for live drums.
sterile? are you listening on computer speakers or something? The drum sounds (and cymbals) are pretty much indistinguishable from real mic'd drums, and full of life & all the usual drum artefacts when you listen in isolation... Ok, i didn't want to take up a huge amount of time on close listening of the drums or the video would have gone on for hours, but i think i'll do another couple of videos, one of which will be some close listening of the drums (the other will be on the midi implementation)
@@dancetech I have a couple Avantone cubes powered by a Yamaha P2050 and some KRKs. And I've been in a few sessions, myself, with top studio drummers, and their dynamics sound nothing like that.
So, yes, any given hit did sound great. But as an ensemble, I thought it sounded sterile.
how's this? ua-cam.com/video/D_sx8Lyn--s/v-deo.html
Very comprehensive! Presets not processed quite right. Couldn't watch the whole thing - this dude is annoying.