Bench Grinder, Wire Brush and Buffer Stand. All-In-One Quick Change!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Easy to build and cost effective. This is a great way to save space in your home shop. This quick change-over pedestal stand is the REAL trick! No extreme machine work, just basic metal fabricating and a bit of welding. A good Combo design!
Mark, I must have watched this video of this absolute beautiful piece of art about 6 times now. And piecing together parts for my version of your art work of machinery. I really like/love the way you built yours, so I take my hat off to your my friend
Thanks you, it's a simple idea but I will admit, its a good one. It saves a lot of space.
I was gifted a drill press foot, column and table. The head stock was destroyed in a lean and smash on a concrete floor. I repurposed all that remaind as an auxiliary support for long objects adjacent to another drill press. By adding a sheave high on the column with a cable, wire rope and counterweight, I had an easily adjustable support for long or tall items that needed to be drilled at either end. Made my life much easier. Additionally, I am a disciple of yours having built several of your lathe, drill press and milling machine accessories. Please keep those coming.
That sounds like a great way to utilize the old drill press stand. The counter weight is a good idea. I did something similar before I put the square column on my drill press to reduce the weight of the table. It's always nice to know some of my ideas are utilized! Thanks for letting me know and thanks for the comment.
Gday Winky, great idea and takes up no room, nice little happy dance and well worth it, thanks mate. Matty
Thanks for watching, always good to hear from you!
Nice project and one heck of a space saver , I have my 2 car garage with a car in it so I know .
Thanks John, so far it's working great!
What a great design. I gonna start gathering materials. I don’t have any machine skills or equipment but I do have friends. THANK YOU from Southern California.
Your welcome. This design is fairly flexible. You could even use a huge block of wood to mount the grinder motors to
Made good use of that column! Nothing wasted.
I like that but even better is that it takes up much less space.
Great idea and re-purposing of the old drill press column. I have a setup with a wire wheel on one side and buffer on the other. When using the wire wheel, say on a rusted piece of metal, debris builds up under it on the bench. You may want to consider some sort of protection for the buffing wheel that is below the wire wheel otherwise you may introduce scratching in your buffing project due to foreign particulates being embedded in the buffing wheel. Just a thought.......
Thanks for sharing your talent.
Thanks for the comment! I'm one step ahead of you, I have a cover over the buffer. And you are right, both the wire wheel and buffer throw stuff everywhere.
Interesting project there Winky. Sort of a Franken buffgrinder. Thanks for the video.
It's Alive!
Great concept. Very creative invention. Thank you for sharing this. I have refurb’d 5 grinders and have two more on the way. My take: if I’m going through the trouble of painting something, I’m going to make it interesting to look at.
Cool, let me know how it works out.
Wow, I love it! Two great tools in one small space. I think when I build mine I will drill three holes using a C-channel and a back plate, one for the center mount and two others to use as a pin plug to spin 180* and lock. Great job and very ingenious .
That's a great idea! Yeah, I love my grinder setup. Its a huge space saver!
Great imagination. I spend hours of down time designing things. From your videos i am sure you do as well. My wife says "men are tall boys with tools not toys" she is right yet again. I am getting cookies and milk right now for behaving at the grocery store.
Funny, I read you comment to my wife. We both had a good laugh. But yeah... I spend hours designing.... most often while laying in bed, mowing the lawn of grocery shopping with the wife.
Interesting build....great timing for me as I have been kicking a similar idea to mount a small buffer over a larger unit.....great food for thought...atb
Thanks for the comment. Also consider front to back mounting. Heck, you could do a combination and mount 4 motors! Power cord mess but doable. Ha
Bold move. I would have been afraid to start that project.
I don't have much floorspace in my workshop. This is a great for maximizing what I do have. I like how it is simple to make and that I've already got a powerarc welder to use.
You will like it! Thanks
Hi Winky - that is just genius! You really do inspire with your creations.....
Maybe a pivot plate on your column bracket with stop pins to prevent over-rotation? and possibly a spring loaded detent as well to back up your locking bolt?
Thanks you sir, I thought about the detent but not a stop. Now that you brought that up it seems totally obvious. Thanks. With the stop you really don't even need a detent. I'll be doing this!
Nice build, I like it! I have two bench grinders and I was thinking of putting them on a rotary table back to back, but Your idea is more space saving so I may go that way instead. I could also put them direct on the wall instead of a pedestal. Hmm 🤔 Leif.
On the wall is a good idea... maybe make the table stick out about a foot so you can work around a wire wheel or buffer.
@Winky's Workshop - Nice repurposing of the old DP column. For the rotation issue could you mill a slot on a 180 degree arc on a radius around the pivot shaft and set a indexing pin in the face of the bracket on the column. Then you could only rotate it one way and you would have a stop at each end so no fiddling with getting the table level when you change from one tool to the other. I enjoy your channel, lots of good tips and techniques.
Thanks Bob, yes that would be a great idea. It would be easy to do, I just need to make it a priority!
Happy Sunday - Happy Workshop in the morning
Great idea! It could be mounted to a wall, and I'm going to try to figure out how to fit four on it. Maybe six, with small belt sanders thrown into the mix. With some ingenuity and copper brushes, the power cord dilemma could be eliminated. Big fun!
On the wall is great if you have the space and 4 would take about the same space as 2 really. Six might be a stretch. I like the power idea as long as you insulate well. My corde reel works like that and it seems to hold up well.
I like the swivel grinder idea, I had purchased a cheap grinder stand from HF and extended it with a piece o lally column tube same size. I was going to swivel in the horizontal plane , but the vertical plane looks like a better idea , great job
I like the vertical plane due to the way my drill press stand is supported but horizontal would be great. If you want a wire brush, buffer and grinder you could do both (4 motors)! Cord might be a huge issue but you'd have all sorts of option.
Awesome. So glad I found this channel.
Welcome aboard!
Dear Winky, I’ve struggled with the same difficulty - two grinders side by side each with their own foot plate and column, taking up valuable floor space. I want to add a guide plate to the grinding wheels for sharpening drills, blades and shaping steel. I may end up with a sliding mechanism up and down because my grinders are quite heavy. Thanks for showing a workable solution. Cheers.
You're welcome. I think a single point pivot should be okay as long as it has enough surface area. Another consideration is the weight of each grinder. Mine are the same grinder so swapping grinders is effortless. If one grinder is 10lb heavier you might have some issues. Here's an idea Make a pedestal with a table that pivots horizontally like a turn table. In other words, one grinder would be behind the column when not in use.
Thanks for that great video and idea. I have been thinking about a rotating table for my two grinders but had a horizontal table with a vertical axis in mind. I think your horizontal axis is a space saver and my shop is already bursting at the seams. I would also like to add a vacuum.
After reading some of the other comments, I am thinking that I could use pipe and pipe fittings to mount this to a wall. That would still allow it to be moved up and down.
Another thought, if you leave the drilling of the axis hole until last, you could try to locate it so that the table assembly is closer to balanced. That way less force would be needed to rotate it.
Your welcome. I love my grinder stand for the same reason you stated, I need SPACE!
You sure do build some nice stuff!
Thank you sir. I love doing this stuff.
@@WinkysWorkshop Me too
You t handle rattle can be minimized by some rubber o rings slide up on the moving part, use it on all or vises to hold handles equal half and half and it cuts down on the rattling too!! Cool space saving idea sir!
Somebody else suggested the same. Funny thing... adding the other grinder stopped the vibration.
I just love that drill press 🇬🇧
Honestly, like I said in the video, this is the most well used machine in my shop. The square column combined with the X Y table make it easy to drill with milling machine accuracy. If you haven't already watched the build video check it out. I also made the drawings available. It's a big project but if you have the tools or access to them, it's a worthwhile project. ua-cam.com/video/i4_FtMMMfDw/v-deo.html
That’s pretty slick.
Thanks... I love it.
Winky, as I said in the shop tour video, wish I had room to make one of these, sure looks like a really space saving useful tool. Well done and keep up the brake dancing or whatever you would call it. LOL
Thanks, I tried and failed on the break dancing... I'm way to old for that. It was hard to get off the floor!
Make a triangular mounting platform and you could also have a grinder at hand. For a solution to the electric wire issue, I suggest looking into rotary electric connectors.
That would work. I also thought about screwing a bolt in the plate that rotated that would hit stops. That way you could not wind the cords up.
Nice build! If you modified the drill press table clamp, you could put two more grinders on the opposite side, and be able to swivel them around. A grinder tree!
This is true! You could have 4 grinders and swivel in both direction.
Good idea, I like that you used the old column. I wish you would build a cross slide lock for your Logan 820. Not because you need one, but because I need one, with the measurements from yours!
You mean a carrige lock?
@@markswoodworkingtips2350 Yep, I'm sorry I called it a cross slide.
@@kenny5174 - I think maybe you commented on this before. My carriage stop does not work right. I don't know if it has parts missing or what . The one on ny 200 worked fine and appeared to be made the same so I'm not sure why the one on my 820 isn't working right. Let me look into this and get back with you.
@@kenny5174 - Ken, if the serial number on your lathe is before 50843 then you have the same lathe as I do. They changed the design after 50843 I have a modified newer design on mine. Let me know what serial number you have.
@@WinkysWorkshop The serial number is on the operator side, and is 22183. on the back side it has an anchor with US stamped on it.
Nice work. Great idea and very good execution.
Thank!
Great job using what is on hand to make a space saving efficient tool center. My channels' theme is RECLAIM REPAIR REUSE RECYCLE
so I really appreciate the work you did here. Stay Safe, Joe Z
Thanks! Cool idea for a channel. I restore and reuse all the time. I'll never forget what my wife said when I brought home my first metal lathe. She said, you paid somebody $500 to take their garbage? I restored it, used it for 2 years and sold it for $1500. I'm now on the my third lathe.
@@WinkysWorkshop Great flip on the lathe. I had a feller that bought a farm with 3 full size lathes in a work shop that he was looking to get rid of. I wanted one but had absolutely no room for one let alone 3. I gave him a few suggestions on how to move them over to one side of his work shop. Then I though why not take one or all of them & put into a storage facility? At the time about $ 80.00 a month. Would give me time to set something up & either break even or come out ahead after selling 2 of them. When I got to see him again he paid someone to remove them. That brought tears to my eyes.
Still do not have a lathe :>(
Nice chatting with you. I am sure I will be back again. Stay safe, Joe Z
@@JOEZEP54 - I'd love to have a lathe a bit larger but like you, space is a problem. With that being said I can do a lot with my current lathes. Yes two lathes. About 2 years ago I bought a 1931 South bend 11-inch for $100 bucks. It sat in my garage for over a year and I finally restored it. It's a sweet little lathe. My other lathe is a 1947 Logan 10-inch. I don't need 2 lathes but I can't bring myself to sell it. Here's the south bed restoration. ua-cam.com/video/vrXBkqC6ttc/v-deo.html
I love the way that you're pleasantly surprised when your parts line up, or the diameter that you've turned fits just as you wanted.
I often have a slightly different experience... why the devil don't my holes align? HOW can it be too small? I spent half the morning trying to turn it carefully down to size...
It happens... but I have a video editor 😛
I purchased a floor model drill press that was essentially junk, no motor, some welding etc... Just to get the center pulley and maybe a spindle. $40. Now I know what I can do with the base. Mine doesn't have as big a base. I don't recognize that base and I own a lot of drill presses.
My drill press stand was from is a Dayton. The base and column were a bit weak for the drill press but great for the grinder. The drill press is not the greatest but has some nice features. First it has a whopping 6-inch quill travel and second it has a split casting for the quill. I put a square column on the drill press which is very handy. I'm guessing you saw the video I made but if not, check it out. Funny thing, after I bought the drill press I called Dayton for a manual and they had no record of the drill press.
Very good video. I have that same polish built bench vise, a very nice vise.
Where did you get it... I got mine at a garage sale maybe 40 years ago.
Put a few o rings on that handle a it may stop the rattle.
I may try that... thanks
Excellent work. Love it!
Thank you very much!
Good work, smart idea, enjoyed it very much. Informative
Thanks you sir, glad you like it.
I am always overwhelming myself with ideas too!
Stressful but also fun
That's the kind of overkill that makes an engineer proud! 😁
I think overkill would have been the first options I considered. If you want to see overkill you need to work in the printing industry a while.
@@WinkysWorkshop We had printers in the can industry that screened labels on cans at 3000 per minute. Overkill is right, but everything had to run 24/7 and downtime was expensive. Engineering for that environment definitely cultures you about machine design.
@@EngineersWorkshop - 3000 a minute is fast can-printing! I worked on web offset presses that print magazines. I retire about a year ago but the last 14 years of my career was spent simplifying overkill, most often anyway. I'm not an engineer but I think that actually gave me a huge advantage. Whenever I approached a problem I always avoided looking at other manufactures for answers. Doing this forced me to think out of the box. Sometimes my designs were better and sometimes I'd say, "I should have thought of that".
@@WinkysWorkshop Engineer's motto: "If it ain't broke, it obviously wasn't complicated enough in the first place!" I'm guilty of that logic sometimes.
@@EngineersWorkshop - Me too.
I know I'm late to the party but I just found your channel. I would think you could integrate some stops that would prevent over rotation and stop you from going the wrong direction. Just a thought, I like your channel.
Excellent idea and I have considered doing this. Welcome aboard!
If grinding or using a wire wheel,
Won't that allow slag and debris to hit the buffing wheel and impregnate the buffing wheel that will cause scratches on what you want to polish ??? I live the concept 👍
I wondered what that was slapping me in the face when I used the buffer. Lol. Honestly, it hasn't been a problem so far but if I do a lot of wire brushing i usually put a rag over the buffing wheels. I thought about putting a piece of sheet metal between the two but I didn't want to create an obstruction.
This is ingenious. My question is how difficult was it to remove the drill press from the column?
Very easy, one bolt but it was super heavy
Excellent creativity. Thanks
Thank you sir and thanks for watching
Don't do that! My heart jumped when you said you drilled your vise! Dang! I didnt need that before bed!
Ha, I thought that was a good joke... I'm always worried about doing this.
Lovely idea love it Ideal if you don't have a lot of room cracking job should of put your gloves on when heating up the metal though
Thanks Michael, it's really been a plus in my small shop.
@@WinkysWorkshop that's ok ole buddy always like new workshop ideas have a nice day
Can I suggest a piece of rubber bike tube about the handle to keep it from rattling? Basically cut a 1' piece, then in a U shape, feed the handle through, with the bottom of the U straddling the 5/8x18 rod. I did this to all of my vises and I'm so happy with it. I learned this trick from pocket83. His latest video also showed this on his vise. It is the video where he's making a brass washer. I think it was on his second Channel
Thanks Dan, that's a good idea!
Good project, but my concern is that metal and stone debris will get on buffing wheels and damage something you are going to polish.
It doesn't seem to be a problem although I stand to one side when I turn the buffer on. Most often I throw some rags over the buffer wheels.
Excellent idea!!
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
Very cool, great idea!
Thanks Steve, it works great!
Instead of getting the Bridgeport, how about a set of morse taper shank drill bits? That way you can eliminate the extra length of the drill chuck, since the taper shank tooling goes directly into the spindle. Nice job by the way! My shop is very small, I need to make something like this.
Thanks, It's a huge plus. As for the morse taper drills, I'd love to have a set for my lathe but the mill is an R8 taper.
Winky's Workshop my mistake I thought the mill had Morse. Yup, not much can be done about that as far as I know. Still, great project.
@@OldtimeIronman - Thanks Peter. You got me thinking however. I have collets by 1/16th" Unless I need a 1/32 size I could chuck the drills in a collet
Winky's Workshop would that be shorter than the chuck? For sure it would have a better grip on the drill. I learned on a Bridgeport with R8 shank, they had the drill bits in these R8 holders like endmill holders.
@@OldtimeIronman Cool, I'll have to look into that
Any concern that wires shed from the wire wheel could embed in the buffing wheel below? Hate to ruin a polished part because of an errant piece of steel wire in the buffing wheel.
I thought about that too... I think I'll make a cover or at least throw some rags over the wheels when I use the wire wheel.
Nice job!
Thanks Paul. I love it.
hello Wink,i was thinking about the light fixture,if you have a large speaker magnet place it at the base of the light ??? enjoyed video,thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the comment. Wow... a magnet would have been great, better than tack welding. Good idea.
I don't think I would bother having it rotating just one above the other would be OK. Definitely food for thought I have umpteen bench grinders taking up bench space. Must look fer something to build a pillar. Thanks.
If they did not rotate you would have to adjust the height. One person commented with a good idea. He said, why not a single table that rotates around the column? That would also work very nice
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@@WinkysWorkshop Putting castors on a band-saw at the moment. It fell over being so top heavy (not on me). Done a few vid shots guess it would be valuable to others . But no where as good as your efforts.
@@mechmania8450 - Post it, you never know! Yes band saws are top heavy, I need to put casters on mine too,
What is the likelihood that metal fragments from the grinding disc will end up in the buffer pad below? Has that been a problem?
It happens although when you turn the buffer on and hold a piece of metal to the wheel they seem to clean up nicely.
Nice men good work.....
Thanks!
@@WinkysWorkshop you from men...
awesome video.thank you
Thanks!
All you have to do now is just add some wheels to it, to make it easy to move.
Hey thats a good idea!
@@WinkysWorkshop Just two wheels that will only become mobile when you tilt it, like a dolly.
I agree. I did that with my band saw... it works well.
Next a detent ball to stop the swivel in the horizontal position every time.....
Thanks! I was thinking a tab that hit a stop. That way it would only allow for rotation one way.
@@WinkysWorkshop Yes sie, that would do the trick...
Hey Winky, do you ever make things besides what you can dream up for your shop? With a shop like yours, you could generate some side income. Nice job as usual!
Admittedly I do make a lot of machine improvements, modifications etc. but I also do some machine work for my former employer (less now that I retired), I just built my 9th Wimshurst Machine (and made a video of the build), I make parts for other peoples Wimshurst Machines, I just made a high class dog bed (ha), some kitchen cabinets, a bathroom cabinet, lots of woodworking project... chest of drawers... dresser etc.. Next up is probably the south bend lathe restore and then I want to build a Buckboard Flyer replica (look it up). Oh... and I am currently working in a automatic sector cutter for the Wimshurst Machines. ua-cam.com/video/RrSKq_zn7AQ/v-deo.html
Awesome ideal brother
Thanks Wayne
Good job
Thanks you sir.... I enjoyed watching your fox. That's a tame fox!
I think I m getting used to that chicken dance now.
The machines love it!
Alsome job winky..
THANKS! I honestly think this is my number one project. I use it daily and its convenient and takes up very little space.
2 sides left to fill!
INTERESTING!
No chance of swarf n dirt getting in your polishing wheels from the wire wheel?
I thought about that too, I'll probably put a rag over the buffer.
I was thinking the same thing. This is a great space saving idea but the dust from one machine would cause issues with the bottom. Especially, with the buffing wheels. Any contamination on the wheels would cause havoc when polishing.
@@boozler8194 - Yeah... I plan on making a cloth cover to throw over it.
@@WinkysWorkshop You could make a curtain type deal that bolts between the grinders. Make it where it will pivot down one direction then swing the opposite direction when you rotate the platform.
@@boozler8194 That might be a good idea, Thanks!
Hi there winky, would I be right in thinking you may have made a linisher? Just thought I saw something in your parting off video?
Hey there, I had to look up that term. Yes I made a belt grinder.
@@WinkysWorkshop I'll have a look. Back through your videos and yes you'll have to excuse me I'm Australian 😜
Perfect, Genial 👍👍👍
Thanks
Nice :-)
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Thanks
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