When Nelson died, after being shot through the spine, unlike the usual practice of putting the dead over the side, they placed his body in a cask of French Brandy to preserve it. The news of the victory was carried to London by HMS Pickle. You have to love that...
It's nearly 21 October. Trafalgar day, and as it happens, my birthday. This is one of the great events in UK history. (Trafalgar day, not my birthday!) Nelson, my personal hero is buried in St Paul's Cathedral. I might just go and pay him a visit.
This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg
Ahh I’m feeling all mashy about about old sailing boats . Wonderfully presented Tom a lovely history lesson. I’m going to make the kids watch this tonight I think they will want you as their new history teacher .
Mr. Cunliffe! Front and center if you please sir! Of these stories, that you have put your name and standing on, we say, Well done sir! Well done indeed! May we ask for more, if you be so kind sir, for us here in America.
Anyone see the "Rescue at Sea" programme on UK TV this week when HMS Pickle had to be rescued by the RNLI? She was taking on water in the engine room and might have been lost. Amazing story and worth seeing.
Thrilling story that. Much like that of Battle of Marathon. It would be splendid to have an annual race from near Cadiz to London Admiralty. The Trafalgar Race ! (Could be an interesting triathlon too: sailing, rowing, cycling)
I have been an American fan of the small boat with the odd name ever since I learned she was the smallest and last ship in the line of Battle at Trafalger. This was a most interesting epilogue.
Great story. I have been reading Julian Stockwins Kydd series books and find the Napoleonic wars period very interesting. This is the type of story that you could call the rest of the story.
In my misspent youth, I was a fore top man on a top saile schooner like this one. She was a blast to race in the Key West to Martha's Vinyard races way back when.
A Dinghy sailing friend of mine was once asked what the best type of self bailer he could recommend. His reply was the same as your yours. "A frightened man with a bucket"
In October if the wind reverses and comes from the East it is impossible for a square rigger to make any progress across Biscay and up the English Channel. The only certainty of getting to any English Channel Port would be a light fore and aft rigged ship like The Pickle. The admiral knew this. There is an exciting account of such a voyage in the Novels of Patrick O'Brian, making right around Kent into London.
Since pickle was built in Bermuda it not surprising is different design , similar to the his Sultana built in Boston in 1767 , also a top sail schooner, a replica exists too.
"Wind on the port quarter," he says, and the footage shows the Pickle with the wind on the starboard quarter! All the same, a sweet little ship, indeed.
unless I'm mistaken the ship in this episode was a baltic packet schooner built in st petersburg russia in the 1990's and bears no resemblance at all to the hms pickle. please correct me if I'm wrong.
She was built as an Adonis Class Royal Navy replica who’s design was very similar to the Tops’le Schooner HMS Pickle. I actually own her and would be quite happy to send you some information.
Not to be a stuck in mud - but the irony, despite this great victory people are still as crooked as they always have been - his own fellow countryman and naval officer was quite happy to do him out of his mission and reward! .. Nevertheless - a lovely account and, for a change, the good guy did win!
If he only won by half an hour, the rigging/hull etc on the Nautilus can't have been that much of a disadvantage? It seems this Pickle is not a replica of the original but a copy of a Baltic Packet Schooner??? "The vessel, owned by Historic Motor and Sail, is presented as a representation in name only with no structural or physical resemblance to the original HMS Pickle" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pickle_(1800)
Marvellous! We will create links for these two videos on our website. Fans of Pickle and the story of Lapenotiere's epic journey may enjoy exploring all the info on our site www.thetrafalgarway.org. You can also follow @LtLapenotiere as he live-tweets his journey on Twitter.
Exact replica?? I don't know of any plans or drafts in existence. do we know what Pickle looked like? Frickers' paintings look like the kit by Jotika which are based on an arbitrary schooner from Bermuda (ie, wrong!) I've been on Pickle and I highly doubt it's anywhere near exact? Anybody??
highly likely to be a very accurate theory. Too much of a mere coincidence to be passed over. I never knew about Pickle Night. Something my grandfather never mentioned. He was a Naval man from start to finish. We are a proud family.
This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg
Lapenotière must have been an unlikable chap. He served as Lieutenant in a number of ships, but never served in any for more than a year. Gun rooms were tight quarters and a difficult person could upset the entire ship's company. On the other hand, instead of being beached he was given small commands so he must have been quite a seaman. He became a Master & Commander as a result of this adventure but When eventually promoted to full post Captain a few years later, he was never offered a command at the rank - he was beached. He may have turned down a command, which would have put him into retirement because he had captured some prizes, one was quite large, so he had money. Its more likely he rankled to many higher-ups and had no patronage as a result.
Why bother so much going to space. If we connected our continents more as we have connected our ideas of ship building and sailing. I bet we could really see a greater future than we se for the slow progress of space travel.
М-да... Ну, что сказать... Материал конечно безусловно вести интересен с точки зрения общей информации о о ходовых возможностях шхуны. Вот правда, что касается отнасительно Трафальгардского сражения, автор несколько не договаривает.. Гы-гы.. Нет, тот факт, что таковое имело место быть, это бе ууже словно. Вопрос в другом, кто по сушеству является основным виновником такового? Гы-гы... Смею предположить, что таковым является именно Британия. Как впрочем таковая собственно говоря является виновником и самого начала так называемых Наполеоновских Воин... Так что в общем то возникает вполне закономерный вопрос, а стоит ли Британии сегодня гордиться своей так называемой победой в данном сражение? Или сегодня англосаксы забыли о том, что главной причиной того, что Европа за последние триста лет истории пережила как минимум три полномасштабных войны, который в сущности по итогу можно назвать именно мировыми. Это всё заслуга именно Британии... Как я понимаю, данный факт нисколько не смущает автора?.. Гы-гы... Впрочем, как я уже сказал, - материал данного видео по сути в общем то интересен, и автор в сущности молодец. Если конечно он в свою очередь в дальнейшем не будет вставлять в подобного рода материалы идеологическую составляющую так называемого британского мирового господства.. Гы-гы..
Russian This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg
this is basically like the world's first Top Gear challenge, and it's brilliant
Thank you Tom that was absolutely brilliant, I enjoyed every second of those two videos. Thank you my fine man, I learnt so much.
When Nelson died, after being shot through the spine, unlike the usual practice of putting the dead over the side, they placed his body in a cask of French Brandy to preserve it. The news of the victory was carried to London by HMS Pickle. You have to love that...
It's nearly 21 October. Trafalgar day, and as it happens, my birthday. This is one of the great events in UK history. (Trafalgar day, not my birthday!) Nelson, my personal hero is buried in St Paul's Cathedral. I might just go and pay him a visit.
I wonder if they ever had a glass of that brandy every now and then.
Pickled in Brandy lol
PS and the crew drank the brandy !
A tale right out of Hornblower! What fun and all the better because it's true! Thank you so much. You made my evening.
This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg
A mighty little Ship. Great story telling! Thank’s Tom.
Ahh I’m feeling all mashy about about old sailing boats . Wonderfully presented Tom a lovely history lesson. I’m going to make the kids watch this tonight I think they will want you as their new history teacher .
What a fine ship, and so fast for her day. Great presenting. Almost felt I had the helm.
What a superb account of a point in naval history of courage and endeavour which would inspire any sailor to “as you would say, crack on” thanks Tom.
Mr. Cunliffe! Front and center if you please sir!
Of these stories, that you have put your name and standing on, we say, Well done sir! Well done indeed! May we ask for more, if you be so kind sir, for us here in America.
Boy.. THAT was just damned good.. the whole thing.. the story, the narration.. all of it
Now THIS is the type of Boat Yard I like, not that poorly written rubbish of someone needing to finish their junkyard boat in three weeks.
the build method by the Russians was quite remarkable , The Pickle ( Alevtina &Tuy ) and her five sister ships were built upside down
Wow, Thank you for this wonderful history lesson from Cliff from Australia
Anyone see the "Rescue at Sea" programme on UK TV this week when HMS Pickle had to be rescued by the RNLI? She was taking on water in the engine room and might have been lost. Amazing story and worth seeing.
Topsail schooner. Absolute favorite rig. Fast, efficient, and graceful.
Wonderful script, screenplay and ship. BRAVO "PICKLE".
What an exciting story, thanks so much for this video - new fan of the channel and also the HMS Pickle!
The British Victory at the battle of Trafalgar changed WORLD history forever. Some battles don't, this one did.
Thrilling story that. Much like that of Battle of Marathon. It would be splendid to have an annual race from near Cadiz to London Admiralty. The Trafalgar Race ! (Could be an interesting triathlon too: sailing, rowing, cycling)
A great tale well told - really enjoyable!
Excellent . Thanks very much Tom and the crews for these video stories.
This is a freaking amazing channel! Your production value is off the charts, and your storytelling ability is second to none. Keep at it!
I have been an American fan of the small boat with the odd name ever since I learned she was the smallest and last ship in the line of Battle at Trafalger. This was a most interesting epilogue.
Great story. I have been reading Julian Stockwins Kydd series books and find the Napoleonic wars period very interesting. This is the type of story that you could call the rest of the story.
Super episode Mr Tom.....Thank you. Andrew
Fascinating story!
I had no idea there was so much background to the dash home by HMS Pickle...
The Pickle is not all forgotten if you are serving or Ex Matelot. We have many a pickle night in Mess. Come late October.
Riveting story well told. Thank you! Ant.
You are a fantastic story teller.
Great series, enjoying every minute.
Great story, Nicely told. Really enjoyable and well done
Superb!
Never forgotten. Pickle night.
In my misspent youth, I was a fore top man on a top saile schooner like this one. She was a blast to race in the Key West to Martha's Vinyard races way back when.
@Bonnie Bagley Sorry, I won't divulge that info. So where were you in 1980. I want the street address and who you worked for.
I do enjoy these videos. Thank you.
What a great story. Thank you.
and a really good sail that day of filming
A Dinghy sailing friend of mine was once asked what the best type of self bailer he could recommend. His reply was the same as your yours. "A frightened man with a bucket"
Having actually BEEN a frightened man with a bucket I can confirm that it is an excellent way to move a staggering amount of water!
Excellent production
Great video, Tom!
Great story and presentation. Thankyou Sir.
In October if the wind reverses and comes from the East it is impossible for a square rigger to make any progress across Biscay and up the English Channel. The only certainty of getting to any English Channel Port would be a light fore and aft rigged ship like The Pickle. The admiral knew this. There is an exciting account of such a voyage in the Novels of Patrick O'Brian, making right around Kent into London.
I miss sailing the old girl with my son , we had quite a few adventures on her
Just seen it,
Best Film ever...
Loverly little documentary.
What a beauty!
what a great tale, thanks
Great Tom, keep um comin Skipper !!!.
Since pickle was built in Bermuda it not surprising is different design , similar to the his Sultana built in Boston in 1767 , also a top sail schooner, a replica exists too.
Well done that man
HMS Pickle was a good ship.
The little boat that could. 🤩
Gripping story Tom. And a point where history is changed.
"Wind on the port quarter," he says, and the footage shows the Pickle with the wind on the starboard quarter! All the same, a sweet little ship, indeed.
Only people who know, know
That you are right
indeed she is, and as close to the original as possible given no plans of the original exist today
Great story 🥰
For greater Naval enthusiast. The HMS Pickle, Lord Nelson, And the battle of Trafalgar are kknown even to Americans...
unless I'm mistaken the ship in this episode was a baltic packet schooner built in st petersburg russia in the 1990's and bears no resemblance at all to the hms pickle. please correct me if I'm wrong.
She was built as an Adonis Class Royal Navy replica who’s design was very similar to the Tops’le Schooner HMS Pickle. I actually own her and would be quite happy to send you some information.
Russia. Petrozavodsk.
Project GRUMANT-58.
www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/
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Is this where we get the saying “in a right pickle” from?
Oh.. now i want a pickle. ")
buy one in Russia
Enjoyed learning this the ships in want to sail the world with 😂 like it .
Swire Pacific Offshore named one of their Supply vessels the Pacific Pickle in honour of HMS Pickle.
I wonder if the expression, in a Pickle, has anything to do with an arduous experience as recited here in HMS Pickle
The first Top Gear race
Thoroughly enjoyed this little bit of navel history. Many thanks for making it so interesting.👍
Naval.
Great adventure ! A piece of British navel history.
Not to be a stuck in mud - but the irony, despite this great victory people are still as crooked as they always have been - his own fellow countryman and naval officer was quite happy to do him out of his mission and reward! .. Nevertheless - a lovely account and, for a change, the good guy did win!
If he only won by half an hour, the rigging/hull etc on the Nautilus can't have been that much of a disadvantage?
It seems this Pickle is not a replica of the original but a copy of a Baltic Packet Schooner???
"The vessel, owned by Historic Motor and Sail, is presented as a representation in name only with no structural or physical resemblance to the original HMS Pickle"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pickle_(1800)
But the Nautilus was far bigger and for much of the " race" the wind direction favored her rather than the Pickle weatherly fore and aft rig
Marvellous! We will create links for these two videos on our website. Fans of Pickle and the story of Lapenotiere's epic journey may enjoy exploring all the info on our site www.thetrafalgarway.org. You can also follow @LtLapenotiere as he live-tweets his journey on Twitter.
Please check out www.historicmotorandsail.org.uk for more information and see Tom on his recent visit to HMS Pickle for a day on the Humber.
Exact replica?? I don't know of any plans or drafts in existence. do we know what Pickle looked like? Frickers' paintings look like the kit by Jotika which are based on an arbitrary schooner from Bermuda (ie, wrong!) I've been on Pickle and I highly doubt it's anywhere near exact? Anybody??
👍
Maybe not, but might this incident be the source of the term : "in a pickle"? I could never appreciate the connection of that meaning.
highly likely to be a very accurate theory. Too much of a mere coincidence to be passed over. I never knew about Pickle Night. Something my grandfather never mentioned. He was a Naval man from start to finish. We are a proud family.
That aint a 8 more like 5-6 😅
HOLD FAST.
There is a Lord Nelson sailboat, I don't know if it's a seaworthy vessel.
This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg
she was built as the Alevtina and Tuy, and certainly nothing to do with Adonis
Had to do a double-take on the commentary, I thought it was Nigel Farage.
She is made in Russia.
There are 5 boats constructed under project GRUMANT-58 since 1992.
www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/
What the 'PICKLE' is really made of - wood?
4 feet are you joking?
Lapenotière must have been an unlikable chap. He served as Lieutenant in a number of ships, but never served in any for more than a year. Gun rooms were tight quarters and a difficult person could upset the entire ship's company. On the other hand, instead of being beached he was given small commands so he must have been quite a seaman. He became a Master & Commander as a result of this adventure but When eventually promoted to full post Captain a few years later, he was never offered a command at the rank - he was beached. He may have turned down a command, which would have put him into retirement because he had captured some prizes, one was quite large, so he had money. Its more likely he rankled to many higher-ups and had no patronage as a result.
interesting polemic that Im sure can be backed up with the research. Thanks.
Being an excellent sailor, and no gentleman, Lapenotiere may have been socially ostracized by the Gun Room
He said glory hole on the hms pickle
Why bother so much going to space. If we connected our continents more as we have connected our ideas of ship building and sailing. I bet we could really see a greater future than we se for the slow progress of space travel.
М-да... Ну, что сказать... Материал конечно безусловно вести интересен с точки зрения общей информации о о ходовых возможностях шхуны. Вот правда, что касается отнасительно Трафальгардского сражения, автор несколько не договаривает.. Гы-гы.. Нет, тот факт, что таковое имело место быть, это бе ууже словно. Вопрос в другом, кто по сушеству является основным виновником такового? Гы-гы... Смею предположить, что таковым является именно Британия. Как впрочем таковая собственно говоря является виновником и самого начала так называемых Наполеоновских Воин... Так что в общем то возникает вполне закономерный вопрос, а стоит ли Британии сегодня гордиться своей так называемой победой в данном сражение? Или сегодня англосаксы забыли о том, что главной причиной того, что Европа за последние триста лет истории пережила как минимум три полномасштабных войны, который в сущности по итогу можно назвать именно мировыми. Это всё заслуга именно Британии... Как я понимаю, данный факт нисколько не смущает автора?.. Гы-гы... Впрочем, как я уже сказал, - материал данного видео по сути в общем то интересен, и автор в сущности молодец. Если конечно он в свою очередь в дальнейшем не будет вставлять в подобного рода материалы идеологическую составляющую так называемого британского мирового господства.. Гы-гы..
An American design ,ha ha !
nope Russian actually
Russian This Boat is not a Replica there are 4 more of the same build ! Interesting info direct from my friends at the Russian boatyard in St Petersburg that built all the boats including the one been used as “Pickle”. All part of the Grumant project. As it says on their website they were based on the designs of Chapman and packet schooners of the day. If you have the money you can order your very own ! 😉 www.varyag-onego.ru/suda/2/29/?lang=eng&fbclid=IwAR12XVylKY6-r3vD7aotsXzFgHkYBCPskLxIhPPaN_N7sT2d3Y4X8tNRULg