Glad to finally see a vid on this new turbo.... I went apr 2 w the last legal dp around last spring, tryn to decide turbo swaps.... love to see more on boost driving....
The reason it seems slow is bc this turbo is designed to make top end power not low end. Watch the needle climb from 5 to 6k rpm. Also if you go with 91 fuel map you're still running timing, I have 91 fuel map and run 94 petro and you notice a big jump in performance.
Nice, I’ve got the apr intercooler and stage 3 dsg software in my car with the dtr6054. I’m still getting shitty 60ft times 2.4-2.5 with launch control set at 3500. I’m gonna reflash the dsg to launch at 4500 and below. I’m not making enough boost at 3500. I’m running low 12’s at 118 so far. Weather is cool today after I flash it I’ll run it again and hopefully be back to 1.9 60ft times or better. This is on a 2016 a3 Quattro
I love it. I want the lpfp and port injection but they don’t have it for the a3 yet. I’d buy the golf r/s3 kit if it would work on my car. Can’t get a straight answer from apr.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 it’s not bad, you can do that with an is38 pretty easily though. I suspect these would be much quicker with a downpipe and ecu/tcu tune from someone else. I get that the dtr was designed with the oem downpipe and for it to be a direct replacement for the ihi turbos, but the tunes are neutered
Turbo sounds awesome. However, even from the video it doesn't seem like 400whp. Do you have a p3 gauge or any datalog capability at all? I'd be curious to see what your IAT's look like considering you're still running the factory intercooler. I'm curious if the IAT's are really high and it's pulling lots of timing as a result. It's either that, or like the thread has mentioned, some sort of weird software glitch not letting the turbo spool to full potential. I bought the same kit and am waiting to install it soon and post results as well. Same car, same mods for the most part, 2015 Golf R, but I have an upgraded intercooler.
thanks for your thoughts. i do not have any monitors unfortunately, but i do have obd11 which i think i can log some things with. i havent seen any super positive reviews that claim the turbo kit is reaching its advertised potential which is very disconcerting, but im hoping in the coming weeks that will be addressed.
@@MrJoker42369 I think it comes down to the tune. A downpipe would surely help too, but the apr tune is meant for the stock downpipe so I don’t expect it to make huge gains. I would get a Catless dp and talk with bms about seeing how a jb4 stack would be with this turbo. A custom ethanol tune from another tuner would definitely be the best way to go imo
You can use it, but of course you'll need to be tuned for an aftermarket DP. APR designed this turbo to work with the stock DP for people looking to stay emissions compliant.
@@MrJoker42369 Factory downpipe? No wonder you're not getting faster transient response or appropriate power. Downpipes make SIGNIFICANT differences in turbo response and power.
So you’re showing a video of the new turbo yet not having all the recommended supporting upgrades? Then surprisingly seem surprised your not feeling too much of a difference. How would you have the turbo without the tune? It’s included? This video is confusing? Did you just slap the turbo on yourself and that’s it?
It seems it is not a great upgrade if you are allready stage 2. Onle little bit more hp and a lot more lag in the low end. I tink it is not a worthy upgrade (too expensive to)
I think something's not quite right. My APR Stage 1 high-torque 93 octane file covers 60-80 mph fractionally quicker than this, in third gear (manual). According to APR I should be putting about 335hp to the wheels. The DTR 6054 is supposed to be right about 395 hp, which I expect should take the 60-80 time down to about 2 seconds flat or just a bit more. Can you do some Dragy 1/4 mile runs? Your trap speed will tell the tale. I'd expect you to be up around 115 to 116 trap.
Which seems goofy because APR says this proprietary turbo with ceramic ball bearings is supposed to have better transient response rates than sleeved bearing units. Unless he's just failed to include appropriate intake, inlet, downpipe hardware to allow it to function like designed.
@@exothermal.sprocket I doubt that's the case. APR is terrified of the EPA coming after them and that turbo with the stock downpipe passes smog which is part of how they market it. I have heard of people running APRs tune with an aftermarket downpipe and seemingly having good luck though. Idk I just went with an IS38 myself as I like the snappy power with good top end still.
my thoughts are in the video lol. i like it... but so far seems to be slower than a stage 2 golf r setup but its emissions compliant. i imagine there is headroom to be reached.
By seat of the pants, a stage 2 Gti would also “feel faster” because of the low end torque. And the stage 2 car might also be faster in a certain rpm range because of that as well.
@@Frisky_Panda very well could be depending on what tune they have. Rjracing’s stock is38 Gti trapped 127-128mph. Other guys have trapped 120+ on stock is38’s too
Glad to finally see a vid on this new turbo.... I went apr 2 w the last legal dp around last spring, tryn to decide turbo swaps.... love to see more on boost driving....
The reason it seems slow is bc this turbo is designed to make top end power not low end. Watch the needle climb from 5 to 6k rpm. Also if you go with 91 fuel map you're still running timing, I have 91 fuel map and run 94 petro and you notice a big jump in performance.
Do you have a dragy? Maybe can do 60-100, 60-130
Nice, I’ve got the apr intercooler and stage 3 dsg software in my car with the dtr6054. I’m still getting shitty 60ft times 2.4-2.5 with launch control set at 3500. I’m gonna reflash the dsg to launch at 4500 and below. I’m not making enough boost at 3500. I’m running low 12’s at 118 so far. Weather is cool today after I flash it I’ll run it again and hopefully be back to 1.9 60ft times or better. This is on a 2016 a3 Quattro
not bad at all, so you are liking it so far?
I love it. I want the lpfp and port injection but they don’t have it for the a3 yet. I’d buy the golf r/s3 kit if it would work on my car. Can’t get a straight answer from apr.
118 is a pretty good MPH.
Brent, what octane file are you running for the 118mph traps? I will be doing similar setup on a 2016 a3 quattro also. Thanks.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 it’s not bad, you can do that with an is38 pretty easily though.
I suspect these would be much quicker with a downpipe and ecu/tcu tune from someone else. I get that the dtr was designed with the oem downpipe and for it to be a direct replacement for the ihi turbos, but the tunes are neutered
Turbo sounds awesome. However, even from the video it doesn't seem like 400whp. Do you have a p3 gauge or any datalog capability at all? I'd be curious to see what your IAT's look like considering you're still running the factory intercooler. I'm curious if the IAT's are really high and it's pulling lots of timing as a result. It's either that, or like the thread has mentioned, some sort of weird software glitch not letting the turbo spool to full potential. I bought the same kit and am waiting to install it soon and post results as well. Same car, same mods for the most part, 2015 Golf R, but I have an upgraded intercooler.
thanks for your thoughts. i do not have any monitors unfortunately, but i do have obd11 which i think i can log some things with. i havent seen any super positive reviews that claim the turbo kit is reaching its advertised potential which is very disconcerting, but im hoping in the coming weeks that will be addressed.
@@MrJoker42369 any updates on the turbo? I’ve heard APR did a 1.3 update on their flash for this turbo, what version are you running in this video?
@@MrJoker42369 I think it comes down to the tune. A downpipe would surely help too, but the apr tune is meant for the stock downpipe so I don’t expect it to make huge gains.
I would get a Catless dp and talk with bms about seeing how a jb4 stack would be with this turbo.
A custom ethanol tune from another tuner would definitely be the best way to go imo
Still liking it?
Sounds awesome. Can you not use this with the APR downpipe and it has to be factory?
the turbo is designed to be used with a factory downpipe for emissions compliance.
You can use it, but of course you'll need to be tuned for an aftermarket DP. APR designed this turbo to work with the stock DP for people looking to stay emissions compliant.
@@MrJoker42369 Factory downpipe? No wonder you're not getting faster transient response or appropriate power. Downpipes make SIGNIFICANT differences in turbo response and power.
So you’re showing a video of the new turbo yet not having all the recommended supporting upgrades? Then surprisingly seem surprised your not feeling too much of a difference. How would you have the turbo without the tune? It’s included? This video is confusing? Did you just slap the turbo on yourself and that’s it?
A 55/58 would good for this motor
It seems it is not a great upgrade if you are allready stage 2. Onle little bit more hp and a lot more lag in the low end. I tink it is not a worthy upgrade (too expensive to)
I think something's not quite right. My APR Stage 1 high-torque 93 octane file covers 60-80 mph fractionally quicker than this, in third gear (manual). According to APR I should be putting about 335hp to the wheels. The DTR 6054 is supposed to be right about 395 hp, which I expect should take the 60-80 time down to about 2 seconds flat or just a bit more. Can you do some Dragy 1/4 mile runs? Your trap speed will tell the tale. I'd expect you to be up around 115 to 116 trap.
This is in a Golf R? So notably more lag than the IS38?
you can tell it's golf R because of speedo
Which seems goofy because APR says this proprietary turbo with ceramic ball bearings is supposed to have better transient response rates than sleeved bearing units. Unless he's just failed to include appropriate intake, inlet, downpipe hardware to allow it to function like designed.
@@exothermal.sprocket it's made for the factory DP
@@MeltingRubberZ28 I've been reading that it's quite new, and they don't yet have accessories to connect this turbo to their stage 2 hardware.
@@exothermal.sprocket I doubt that's the case. APR is terrified of the EPA coming after them and that turbo with the stock downpipe passes smog which is part of how they market it. I have heard of people running APRs tune with an aftermarket downpipe and seemingly having good luck though. Idk I just went with an IS38 myself as I like the snappy power with good top end still.
something is wrong with your map. my is20 puts down more power than this from the looks of it
Any thought?
Do you like it?
my thoughts are in the video lol. i like it... but so far seems to be slower than a stage 2 golf r setup but its emissions compliant. i imagine there is headroom to be reached.
By seat of the pants, a stage 2 Gti would also “feel faster” because of the low end torque. And the stage 2 car might also be faster in a certain rpm range because of that as well.
@@FEboats Any updates on your a3 with higher launch control?
my is38 stage is three is way faster than this, which makes me question the reliability of information onthis video.
Lmao no it’s not.
@@Frisky_Panda very well could be depending on what tune they have. Rjracing’s stock is38 Gti trapped 127-128mph.
Other guys have trapped 120+ on stock is38’s too