Our Off Grid Wood Stove Experience & Vent-less Propane Heater Info Ep. 41

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  • Опубліковано 17 січ 2018
  • In this Episode: We share our experience using the United States Stove Company 1269E Cast Iron Wood Burning Stove & a Vent-less propane heater. This is a must see video if you use this or a similar wood burning stove on or off grid. We also discuss the pros and cons of using a vent-less propane heater as a backup or an alternative. Be sure to SUBSCRIBE and follow along as the Stevens Family Farms!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 398

  • @universalsurvivalnc
    @universalsurvivalnc 3 роки тому +28

    You just taught me more in 10 minutes than I have learned my whole life about wood stoves thanks for the info and I subscribed looking forward to watching more of your stuff

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  3 роки тому +6

      What a generous compliment. So glad this video is helping people. 😀

    • @colbolt54
      @colbolt54 11 місяців тому

      U need to get out more!

    • @angbry8305
      @angbry8305 7 місяців тому

      @@colbolt54 🤣

  • @lilfriendsfarm
    @lilfriendsfarm 6 років тому +46

    Hey fellow homesteaders, i wanted to give some advice that may work(or not) for your stove. I have the same model stove and here is what i have found, first the flue damper is designed to be fully open most of the time. That would be the flap in the strait up and down position. You should very rarely need to close it at all. Also you may be using to large pieces of wood for the stove. Watch the chimney outside. If you have smoke you are not burning clean. Should be very little or no smoke after the fire gets started. Also you can take the kao wool insulation out of the stove(on top of the baffle, can be slid out without taking the stove apart). It will make your stove breath better and solve the back puffing of smoke into the house. This stove design seems to have had the epa additions as an afterthought and can add some headaches. Hope this helps as every stove setup is slightlt different.

    • @chrisexy69
      @chrisexy69 3 роки тому +2

      So you DON'T need the white insulated stuff on top of the baffel??

    • @living_the_dream992
      @living_the_dream992 2 роки тому +2

      no you don't need itthe older models like i have doesn't use them to me the older ones worked way better and i think thats the reason

    • @gantz4u
      @gantz4u 2 роки тому

      @@living_the_dream992 I welded my own stove with the EPA secondary burn and tuned it myself with a neoceram window to watch the fire. The first burn produces wood gas. Then the secondary burn mixes air into the wood gas and spontaneously combusts it for smokeless burn before it runs over the baffle plate. Creasote build up and smoke indicates inefficient burning of the wood gas. My design is a barrel shaped design, so the volume for initial and secondary burns are about the same, with the air inlets for the secondary burning sitting at the top of the initial burn and the beginning of the next burn. When operating efficiently this is awesome. It looks like smoke on fire because it is smoke on fire. Sometimes it does fire tornadoes. Then toward the end of the burn the chamber fills with smoke then does little explosion as the smoke descends down to get ignited by the initial burn flame. I have a damper to block off the first burns air intake, a baffle to block the exhaust, then my secondary burn intake has no baffle and I run it wide open. Then I have a bung hole that rushes are across the baffle that I have a bung for. This last air intake just insures any lost wood gas from secondary burn will ignite running across either side of the baffle before it enters the chimney(this is usually where a secondary burn is supposed to take place. Mine does this and where a normal open air fires secondary burn occurs at the top of the logs). I also have a few small holes drilled into the door frame to prevent soot build up on the glass I run wide open. When its doing the smoke explosions it will puff a little smoke out of the bung hole. I close the bung until I get a good flame then open it or smoke will roll out of the bung on ignition. Tuned right, the concept of secondary burn is more efficient burn and superior stove design. But it's hard to get right. It's luck and magic on design until you fire it for the first time.
      This stove concept doesn't look like it works and isnt producing the secondary burn. I suspect exhaust restriction not sucking enough air into the intakes for secondary burn the way people are saying to fix this by increasing the size of intake and reducing exhaust restrictions then adding a damper on the intakes and exhaust for better control to get it to burn efficient and stop smoking. Proving the fact this is rated as approved efficient and mine illegal is pure bureaucracy and palm greasing.
      I would also add a metal plate behind that stove with 1 inch non combustible spacers and enough room at the bottom of the plate to allow air flow behind the plate. This is not only fire recommendation for safety code, but more importantly takes advantage of thermal mass. The plate heats up then gains heat then when the fire cools it dumps heat causing longer heat production and lowers the temptation to starve the fire for ineficient burns to create longer burn times. As the plate acts as a space heater. Benjamin Franklin's stove design attempts to take advantage of increased thermal mass more efficiently along with convection heating of the air. This is probably the biggest reason why huge brick fireplaces are better. Since more brick means more thermal mass and you can duct channels through the hearth to pass around the bricks and into you central duct work.
      This is similar to hot rocks. In hot rocks you heat rocks in a firepit then drag the rocks into your Teepee to take advantage of the rocks heat. This is where sweat lodging comes from is the concept of dry hot rocking to take advantage of their thermal mass. I've done it and usually end up cuddling with rocks towards the middle of the night.

    • @andyamysarizonaadventures5450
      @andyamysarizonaadventures5450 Рік тому

      We just ordered this stove,thank you very much Nicholas.

    • @jerryvann6520
      @jerryvann6520 8 місяців тому

      I burn pine. Needs to be dry real dry

  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 6 років тому +15

    Great family, amazing woman and mother of 6 awesome children. Dad is pretty awesome also, but his greatest accomplishment is finding that wonderful partner to build his family with. May God bless you and your family richly Lee

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому +9

      Well the truth is, for those interested in how our relationship started, my wife and I met in church and she pursued me. God is good!

  • @mikeklakowicz1186
    @mikeklakowicz1186 Рік тому

    Thanks for your video because I'm one of those people that needed more education on stoves good job

  • @soon2bsaint680
    @soon2bsaint680 Рік тому +2

    Great video bro. Don’t worry about ur rambling.

  • @claudinedecarlisle8647
    @claudinedecarlisle8647 2 роки тому

    I know this is an older video but it proved incredibly timely for me.
    You gave me all the information I needed.
    Huge thanks and you have a new subscriber.

  • @johnwayne2497
    @johnwayne2497 2 роки тому +1

    Man, yall have helped me more than any other video I've watched. THANK YOU!

  • @amandaguidry4242
    @amandaguidry4242 2 роки тому +1

    We're getting our stove today and this is really great information. Thank you!

  • @thechad2553
    @thechad2553 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for the great video and all the information you shared from your first hand experience. I wish you and your family the best.

  • @beanoneya
    @beanoneya 3 роки тому +4

    This was great! And explained the changes in the way the stove is made since I was using it 30-40 years ago. There used to be a damper in the front bottom. EPA adjustments and a cleaner burn just make so much sense.
    And you really did help me learn how I was going to use it. Big thanks, and happy new year!

  • @michaelambrosia
    @michaelambrosia 2 роки тому

    Very thorough presentation. Thank you! I have been trying to find out about these for a while and this video really helps me make an informed decision.

  • @kaykayrn1747
    @kaykayrn1747 6 років тому +6

    Excellent video. Thanks for showing the good, bad, & ugly. Definitely not too long a video...best heating video I've seen. Glad y'all are warm now.

  • @southerntexashomestead5028
    @southerntexashomestead5028 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info. You did a really good job describing all the issues of cleaning and operating the wood stove that you have. Thanks.

  • @alexanderackermans201
    @alexanderackermans201 2 роки тому +2

    Hello from the Netherlands EU. Thanks for this long but good video! When the story and info are good a video is never to long. So many thanks for learning me there are more ways to go. Greets to your family.

  • @dmaiden407
    @dmaiden407 Рік тому +1

    Thought you and your wife did a really great job. Very informative , I just ordered same stove but not used it yet. I believe I will have a better experience after watching this. Thanks so much!

  • @charlese.prospecting6627
    @charlese.prospecting6627 7 місяців тому

    Great video you guys! I'm about to buy one of these stoves and I'm so grateful that you gave these tidbits of information. Good job 👍. God Bless You And Your Family.

  • @pgo301
    @pgo301 3 роки тому +4

    Hey!!! Thanks for taking the time and explaining everything. You Guinea Pigged out most of the bugs that people will come across when they encounter using a wood burner. Keep Up the great work folks, you are appreciated for all your hard work.

  • @Bigfoss1977
    @Bigfoss1977 3 роки тому +5

    I’m one of those people that really needed to know all this thank you Brother I’ve never used a wood stove I’ve had this same stove sitting in my driveway covered up for two years since I bought it because I had no clue what to do other than buy the stove I’m about to put this thing use 🤘🏻💯🤘🏻

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome! So glad this helped. God bless and Merry Christmas! 😁🌟❄️🎁🦌🎄

  • @daviddelgado3971
    @daviddelgado3971 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks I have this stove and was having the same problems appreciate you guys for doing this💜

  • @jj680l
    @jj680l 5 років тому +4

    Nice video guys! Glad you figured it out. Thanks for sharing.

  • @momentumforward
    @momentumforward Рік тому +2

    Awesome! thanks so much for this info! There's a few decent videos on how to operate a stove but not as much detail. understanding how and what is needed to burn effectively is so important in providing a safe environment. Thanks for sharing!

  • @reedmitchell6716
    @reedmitchell6716 7 місяців тому

    Great Job on this. We have had a box stove in our Camp in Northern Pennsylvania. Since 1974. Just up graded to a new sealed flat top , glass window front door. Burns longer at night after loading up. I really enjoyed seeing the kids first snow. Brought a tear to my eye. My 2 daughters are grown. Time flys. Enjoy Every Moment My Friend.

  • @ADiosChicago
    @ADiosChicago 3 роки тому +2

    GREAT VIDEO!!!! Thank you both for sharing, God bless you and yours. 😊

  • @inannashu689
    @inannashu689 3 роки тому +1

    I bought one of those wood stoves last winter,haven't used it yet,but will this winter.Thanks so much for the info.

  • @Winsert1
    @Winsert1 Рік тому

    Excellent! Great info on the stove. Much appreciated.

  • @monchisdavalos2032
    @monchisdavalos2032 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for all the great information you shared with us!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Comments like yours make it all worth it!

  • @demitaylor8873
    @demitaylor8873 6 місяців тому

    1. Thanks for the info because I too am off grid and running a generator for heat purposes is expensive 😮. 2. I was looking at that model so you gave great info timely and 3. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR GATE!!

  • @m123isforme2
    @m123isforme2 2 роки тому

    Just a quick thanks for making the vid. Great job and thanks for sharing 👍

  • @smokingreels4603
    @smokingreels4603 Рік тому +1

    Also great in depth vid lots of questions answered!

  • @Icutmetal
    @Icutmetal 2 місяці тому

    Love the baby gate. I’ve got a stove located centrally in my off grid getaway cabin and my wife is afraid of our dogs getting too close. I had the same idea and it’s nice to see it in practice.

  • @Tamara02690
    @Tamara02690 2 роки тому +1

    I just wanted to say thank you for making this video I just purchased this stove and reading reviews some are positive some negative but I think you just solved 95% of the negative reviews.

  • @laurieflores1107
    @laurieflores1107 6 років тому +2

    good to know on the damper...glad ya'll are warm...glad you made the video...thank you

  • @Ozarkwonderer
    @Ozarkwonderer 9 місяців тому

    Alot of good information here guys. I got one of these style stoves and I learned some valuable tips

  • @GregVasquez777
    @GregVasquez777 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, a great full description. I have this stove and this is great to know.

  • @courtneyfowler2729
    @courtneyfowler2729 8 місяців тому

    Nice video.. been having problems with that kind stove. Started living at my cabin too and new at this 😂 cleaning it as im writing this 🤙🏼 stay safe and warm..

  • @luislandofficial
    @luislandofficial Рік тому

    2022 and I’ll be ordering mine this week. Thank you!!

  • @michaelohara2161
    @michaelohara2161 Рік тому +1

    We have burned wood for a lot of years.
    It does take time to figure it all out. I am a HVAC journeyman by trade.
    We have our natural gas furnace for when We are away for long times and AC in the summer.
    Your flu pipe is installed reverse. The crimped male end should go inside in the direction of airflow. This will stop the smoke at the flu.
    I clean once a year.
    If I have to burn some wet wood. I chase it with some dry wood.
    I always opened a window slightly and had no back draft problems.
    The second year I added a 4” make up (outside air)air pipe for combustion. Now that is not needed.
    You have to have a properly insulated house with a proper vapor barrier.
    Higher humidity actually makes you feel warmer. It is the consentration of BTU’s that make the wood seem much warmer.
    We Love our wood pellet stove at our cabin.
    I even thought about replacing our wood stove in our house, because it works so well.

  • @lycanmaldonado5757
    @lycanmaldonado5757 7 місяців тому

    Thank you! best video about this wood stove. Learn a lot

  • @grannycooper8469
    @grannycooper8469 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much, I needed this detailed information.

  • @BadPigg
    @BadPigg 8 місяців тому

    The review I wanted to hear. Thanks!

  • @michaelkozenczak7667
    @michaelkozenczak7667 4 роки тому +1

    Great video and information...I have this stove and this particular model 1269e doesn't have a pin on the damper I can adjust but rather a fixed welded pin. I was thinking of cutting it out as it seems you solved the problems I have been having. Thanks for taking the time to do this!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      I would cut off. Being able to damp it good makes a big difference especially if your burning a big piece at night and trying to get a long slow burn.

  • @larry78cj7
    @larry78cj7 2 роки тому

    Glad I found this video. Thanks

  • @KevinFlynn501
    @KevinFlynn501 2 роки тому

    Loved your video, it was very informative thank you.

  • @chrishamilton3418
    @chrishamilton3418 7 місяців тому

    Excellent!

  • @porcupineranch512
    @porcupineranch512 6 років тому +1

    Great video! A lot of advice from experience.

  • @Josealvarez-pz3mh
    @Josealvarez-pz3mh 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much: I did learn a lot from your experience..God bless

  • @SurvivorMetalMan
    @SurvivorMetalMan 5 років тому +6

    I’ve got the model #1261, I’ve been using it for 5 seasons now, it’s our sole source of heat, and it works great. It’s an awesome stove, heats our whole house. Sometimes it gets so hot in our living room, around 85, we have to open the front door to just cool it down a little bit. We’ve had it up to that 85, when it was single digits out. Great talk and review. A great investment.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  5 років тому +3

      Thanks! And I agree. We are very happy with ours now that we have learned through experience how to use it.

    • @carpetace56
      @carpetace56 5 років тому +1

      I'm thinking of getting a #1261. I have a limitless supply of oak pallets. Would that make good firewood?

    • @SurvivorMetalMan
      @SurvivorMetalMan 5 років тому

      Oak is great wood to burn in a wood stove. Not sure about pallet wood, I think it’s treated with something, it might not be good to burn because it might give off harmful fumes.

  • @anthonyumina8478
    @anthonyumina8478 2 роки тому

    Thanks bro! Good info.

  • @mm2093
    @mm2093 2 роки тому

    Great info - thanks for making the video - I have a cylinder stove in a small cabin - I noticed just as you said that the coals were alway glowing at the back. It makes so much sense that the wood burns from the front where the vents are to the back. I never put two and two together to figure that out. That is a big tip - thanks - then I was thinking about one of those ventless propane heaters to turn on when I go to sleep because like you said there is no such thing as a overnight burn. Omg that condensation was terrible. You just saved me a lot of money and aggravation!!! Thanks

    • @yesican2012
      @yesican2012 2 роки тому

      Researched masonry cook stoves. Built correctly, only need to feed it twice a day. Burns any wood with little, some users say NO, creosote build-up.
      AND...a load of wood heats the home for 12 hours.

  • @homegrowncountryhomeplace
    @homegrowncountryhomeplace 6 років тому +1

    Great video. Great observation about the damper being closed to much. This is definitely causing most of your trouble. Something else you might try is to get the stove temp up to around 500 degree before cutting damper down. A wood stove that is burned at a lower temp will cause creosote to build-up. We just posted a video today on cleaning our chimney. Your right, all wood stoves are different and you have to learn what works for you. Enjoy your videos and y'all enjoy that snow. Y'all have a Blessed day!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому

      +Homegrown Country Homestead thanks guys. It's an on going learning process and we are determined to get it right!

    • @homegrowncountryhomeplace
      @homegrowncountryhomeplace 6 років тому

      Said like a true Homesteader. That's what it's all about. Keep pressing on my friends.

  • @roneilrd
    @roneilrd 4 роки тому

    Very informative. Keep the Dream alive brother.

  • @GregVasquez777
    @GregVasquez777 4 роки тому +1

    thank you!! just bought one so this helps understand it.

  • @ccpirogue
    @ccpirogue 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @socalboergoats1931
    @socalboergoats1931 Рік тому

    Awesome video bud

  • @wallycass2780
    @wallycass2780 4 роки тому +1

    Very true about the water vapor condensation from the vent-less propane heater as it made my roof in my RV fall apart and so far I had to replace huge sections in my roof. The wood was 1/2 inch OSB board. My roof didn't leak and I was puzzled as to why all the condensation and figured it was due to the propane heater. So now thinking of installing wood heat.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      Wow, so sorry that happened to you. Wood stove gives you some Independence! 😀

  • @HELLAARTSYDUDE
    @HELLAARTSYDUDE 3 роки тому +1

    This video is very helpful. I am new to being serious about learning about wood burning stoves. THANK YOU !!! 👍👍👍 NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE 😎

  • @gangwaybullys
    @gangwaybullys 2 роки тому

    Good video

  • @jerrylittle8922
    @jerrylittle8922 6 років тому

    Really good job explaining . I have the same stove. I always have a good draft. My stack is high above my roof . No pine except the Fatlighterd old pine i use to start fires.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому

      +Jerry Little I use the fat lighter also. They are very helpful!

  •  3 роки тому +1

    Appreciate the info, a lot!

  • @carlo650
    @carlo650 5 років тому +1

    cool video. dope wood stove.

  • @gailreese4699
    @gailreese4699 6 років тому

    I live in the city in Florida but it is nice to know about the stove.

  • @wallycass2780
    @wallycass2780 3 роки тому +1

    You have a excellent video and I have replied to this video in the past explaining my condensation problem however I would not let people assume that it is safe from condensation if their place is well insulated. Mine was well insulated and my my walls and ceiling were saturated and rotted my roof. Other than that excellent video. Cheers.

  • @thomaslight8945
    @thomaslight8945 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, Thanks. We use an Atlanta Stove Works Huntsman to heat our A-Frame in West Virginia, older stove but a beast. A relative gave us the model you are using, we are going to use it for a large camper trailer. I have a good idea of what modifications I'll need to do to it based on your advice. We considered purchasing a vent-less propane heater for a backup, after watching your video we won't be going that route. Our stove is reverse of this one, it will heat all night if all of the coals are piled in the back and covered with everything else in the stove, including the ash (totally different design than your stove). Going to relocate the damper into the vent pipe about 18 inches above the stove, fashion a door gasket and weld a damper on the front, weld the old damper location holes shut and the legs on. In an emergency, using a decent sized chain the length of the stove pipe will clean it, clang it around for a few minutes to knock the creosote loose. Do you have have the vented propane heater, would you recommend it? Thank you again, much appreciated!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  2 роки тому +1

      I have a Williams vented propane heater. Also called a furnace. It is fantastic! Has a thermostat and uses no electricity. Best decision we made for backup and supplemental heating! 😁

  • @grantberry7575
    @grantberry7575 6 років тому +1

    Love your channel!! Moisture is your enemy when burning wood. Dry wood is vital. Smaller wood burns faster and hotter decreasing creasote issues . Try putting a skirting around the outside to lessen cold wind under the house. Stay safe and keep on homesteading! Can't wait for the next one_ my wife and I love your family and your courage!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому +1

      +Grant Berry we are planning to skirt the house soon after we run some plumbing!

    • @grantberry7575
      @grantberry7575 6 років тому

      Sounds good! By the way we are located in Nova Scotia Canada. Have you seen 1000s of roots ? A homesteading channel from southern Missouri who are off grid. Enjoy the adventure!

    • @beanoneya
      @beanoneya 3 роки тому

      We finally just put a skirt around the house and we're blown away by how much a difference it makes. It's 34° outside and we're cozy like it's nothing, inside. Amazing.

  • @rhodacrosby1749
    @rhodacrosby1749 3 роки тому +2

    This was the first kind of wood burning stove I had...and 2nd. I had grown up in a house with a fireplace and I considered this superior to my parents fireplace. By the time I got the 2nd stove I had much more square feet to my living area it wasn’t enough to keep my house warm so we knew we were only getting 67,000 btu with the boxwood, which was enough initially but we upgraded to the potbelly for 150,000 btu to have heat for the rest of the house.
    Dollar for dollar the boxwood was a great investment and for a long time I couldn’t afford the $810 investment for the potbelly even though I was happy with the boxwood.
    So today my house is 8 feet elevated on pilings (hurricane zone) and under the house is concrete and incased in plastic and I have installed the old boxwood downstairs to use when it’s especially cold.....heat rises after all.

  • @smwon1
    @smwon1 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. I was debating if I would get this stove... now I will. Thank you again!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      No problem! This is about to be our third winter with it and we love it.

  • @randojo7179
    @randojo7179 5 років тому +3

    I like being able to adjust the damper and the draft. I usually get it going good and keep the draft and damper cracked. With dry wood.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  5 років тому +1

      Man, dry wood is so key before anything else! Love me some good dry wood. 😀

  • @kennethtanner2453
    @kennethtanner2453 4 роки тому +2

    5 degrees? that's shorts weather!!! lol hi from northern michigan nice stove keep up the good work

  • @katrinagarland5219
    @katrinagarland5219 Рік тому

    I use a Mr. Buddy Heater as a back-up. I highly recommend them.

  • @prepertruckin8525
    @prepertruckin8525 2 роки тому +4

    ⭕ brother, thank you. this was the most informative 30 minute video that I've watched. i know it was a ton of time on your end to make this video, and i seriously do appreciate it. i just bought this model at tractor supply, because it was the only one available, due to shortages, supply chain issues and EVERYONE has been buying up what's available, and because you took the time to make this video, I'm confident in its capabilities now. i was reluctant to buying it because of the size (actual dimensions) thinking i should just buy some steel and build one to the size i thought i would want. however this one didn't come with a damper... is this something i should be concerned with? or jus leave it open... i bought one because i didn't see it included, thinking i would have to have it. but it is a question that puzzles me... thanks in advance

  • @onlinebills9169
    @onlinebills9169 Рік тому +1

    SMOKE ISSUE (model without the built-in damper): The smoke that is trying to escape from the top of the door, in some cases is because USStoves in their manual say that the flue has to be MINIMUM 12FT high. I made the mistake with being cheap not wanting to be at 12ft minimum, so I ended-up extending it to 15ft and I can open the door without having smoke escaping from the front anymore (note: my chimney goes outside the window)

  • @dawsonenterprises4727
    @dawsonenterprises4727 4 роки тому +8

    Those ashes can be used to make soap from scratch :)

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +3

      I think you can make lye with the ash and then make soap from that. 😁

  • @queentishay85
    @queentishay85 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @tchogworks1987
    @tchogworks1987 Рік тому +1

    I had one of those stoves year’s ago before epa regulation. I could fill it up before going to bed 2 hours later I’d wake up sweating my rear end off. They aren’t air tight. They are basically for a cabin or something you watching it all the time. These people need a airtight stove that has gaskets on the doors.

  • @d.vaughn8990
    @d.vaughn8990 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for all the great advice/details concerning this stove. I am considering buying one!
    Yea, leave the green pine alone. You are asking for a chimney fire. That creosote is crazy flammable!

  • @randojo7179
    @randojo7179 5 років тому +2

    Always open damper. Before you open door. Open the air slots And damper get coals up by the air vent. It will catch the wood on fire faster. You will learn the setting of your stove (damper and air slots) to keep it at the right temp. I like to keep the pipes all the way sealed. Will help draft better and wont let smoke escape. I like a tall smoke stack too.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  5 років тому +1

      Yes! This is our second winter with it now and I feel much more experienced and knowledgeable about it. We have a very tall smoke stack that is to code and I think it helps alot!

  • @HELLAARTSYDUDE
    @HELLAARTSYDUDE 3 роки тому +1

    FRIZID !!! I like that new word 👍👍 ❄️FRIZID❄️

  • @randallswallow3914
    @randallswallow3914 4 роки тому +2

    A Good reason to have some type of supplemental heat to keep the house above freezing at all times when you're away for such long periods of time.

  • @charlesrobertson11
    @charlesrobertson11 4 роки тому +2

    redwhale43
    Great learning experience vidieo. Been burning wood over 50 years. Still picks a little few bits of intel from certain individuals who make the best of their situation and are willing to share with others. The best to you and your family.-----Hug your dog.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you kind sir! I feel the same but only been burning 3 Winters now. Getting better and more experienced with each one! 😁

  • @Indeewoods
    @Indeewoods 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting. Hard to believe they closed the damper like that from factory. They have to go by the EPA rules but the tests they do are not real world burns we all use in our stoves.
    In Canada by code chimney dampers are not allowed as far as I know.
    In some stoves you really need that damper or the stove might run away but they all seem to burn the best and longest with the damper almost open then control the air to desired settings.
    So many variables with wood stoves. Air in take amount, chimney pipe length,size,insulated pipe or non insulated,secondary burn etc.
    Some places only have pine to burn. I burn tons of it but I do notice I get a dry powdery creosote however I run my stove hot often.
    Having the damper closed like that is a recipe for disaster. Luckily you didn’t have a chimney fire.
    Also you don’t have double wall pipe so heat is lost and the wood gas ( smoke) goes up the pipe and when it cools it condences and then you have creosote.
    It would be nice if you could get a larger stove where you can add several logs for longer burn time and more heat plus logs don’t burn good on there own they feed off each other so stuffing one big log in does add burn time vs splits but it also doesn’t burn as well it smoulders then you get your creosote. The constant battle with stoves! Lol
    If it were my stove I’d open that damper a little more as long as the stove is controllable by the air damper.
    I use a lazer heat reader to monitor pipe temps while experimenting with settings.
    Years ago I built my own woodstove and went totally off grid living in an old motorhome in the mountains.
    I was woodstove green so had to learn it all on my own. I made the stove out of 5/16 pipe.It was about 14” pipe by 16” long.
    I used 6” double wall stainless steel stove pipe with an insulated stainless steel chimney going through the roof.
    I always cut dead standing trees and did not realize 2-3 year seasoned wood is much better for less creosote plus heat out put but I was always moving around so no where to store seasoned wood. I regularly burned totally live green wood when I was going to be away for longer than 10hrs but I only put one big green log in the center and stacked dry wood around it.
    That stove still cranked out the heat big time and I would always run it very hot at start up to where it looked like a jet engine out the top of the pipe. Lol
    All I burned was Pine,spruce,poplar and balsom fir and none of that wood was ever seasoned it was cut down the day before being burnt in the stove so not totally dry.
    Well I would get build up in the top 6” after a month of burning and the rest of the pipe was totally clean! Never once did that chimney pipe ever see a brush in all the years I used it! I would run a screwdriver around the top of the pipe the creosote would fall back in the stove and I’d reburn it.
    Good times but I learned alot from burning 24/7 in all months of the year as it’s cold even in the summer hear in the Canadian Rockies.
    Great video.

  • @larrybottjen5643
    @larrybottjen5643 2 роки тому +1

    Like you, I assumed there would be a baffle for me to control the burn rate. I've owed four previous wood stoves and this is the exception. Just put mine together (almost just like yours) and was astonished to see the flue blocked by that white wool panel across the top. It looked like it was supposed to be there, but I took it out right away. From other's comments in other videos, they eventually did the same. Did you remove yours and did it come with one? Mine did not come with any collar damper at all, but if I choose I can always install one in the flue pipe. We also use a combo ventless propane heater and (now) a wood burning stove. We are neighbors to the north of you, just two miles north of the border into Missouri. Thanks for the video.

  • @gailreese4699
    @gailreese4699 6 років тому

    Sad we don't see you enough. My grandmother lived all but the last couple of years on a large wood stove and that was the first thing she told anyone that she new NEVER BURN PINE.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому

      +Gail Reese she was right! We are going to try and get back to videos every week!

  • @selms22
    @selms22 5 років тому +5

    With burning wood for heat, there is alot of trial and error to go through before we figure out how to do it just right.. there's alot involved with wood heat.. dampers, flues, dry wood or not so dry, oak or aspen, and is it just cold enough to fire up the stove, or bitterly cold enough that requires a fire that burns a bit hotter.
    There alot to consider.
    The old timers would chuckle after watching this video I think.
    They got it down.
    I'm still learning too.
    I have mixed pine in my stove with no worries, I've heard the warnings about excessive creosote with pine. I haven't had any noticeable problems.
    But after watching your vid, I will definitely prep to clean the pipes next time I visit the cabin.
    Thanks, good video!

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  5 років тому +2

      Thanks. I agree, I think you can use pine with some precautions. I feel it needs to be very dry and its best used when trying to burn very hot fires by mixing with other woods. But burning very small or not very hot fires for a long period of time can build up creosote fast no matter what wood your burning! Thanks for watching! :)

    • @dawsonenterprises4727
      @dawsonenterprises4727 4 роки тому

      That's good I thought it was only me going through trial and error....we are all pioneers lol

    • @videobob6789
      @videobob6789 4 роки тому

      @@StevensFamilyFarms maintain stack temperature above 300 degree helps reduce creosote built up not stop it. wood smoke and moisture cause creosote. its the nature of burning wood.Your stack is more important than your stove. Wood burning in a up and down temperature cycle. You need Class A rated SS stack starting 18-24" above stove. "safer than sorry"
      Lots more could be said but your figure it out one way or the other

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en Рік тому +1

    yeah , a fully automatic backup (propane perhaps) at just enough temp to keep the pipes from freezing, is what I am thinking of doing.

  • @corey7348
    @corey7348 Рік тому

    Their is also a reclaimer can put in chimney to tap into the heat escaping out the chimney

  • @seoulkidd1
    @seoulkidd1 5 років тому +4

    Add brick around that stove to add thermal mass and when the stove is dead the bricks will radiate heat. Also look into rocket stoves more heat less wood. Look @ the liberty rocket stove it is a multi fuel stove which has a 10 tp 12 hr burn time with pellets and is gravity feed.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  5 років тому +3

      I have seen some videos where people have installed rocket stoves in their house and those can also have some problems as well. I think they are pretty cool and I am sure I will have one for something one day but I am not too big on pellets because regular old wood is more self reliant. I like your idea about adding more brick to the hearth but I installed a vented heater on the wall behind the woodstove so I dont have much room or options left for additional brick. :/

  • @denverbasshead
    @denverbasshead 9 місяців тому

    My 2020 epa stove has two handles, a built in damper in the stove above the door and an air control below the door. The only time the damper is open is when I start a fire or to open the door. Once the flue is heated i close the damper and just use the air control. My stove just has the reburn tubes.

  • @outdoorztime2923
    @outdoorztime2923 7 місяців тому

    Great job on this video, you two! My wife and I just purchased one of these cast iron wood stoves from TSC in Conway yesterday. I didn't notice you can't pull the bottom tray on these like you can the old ones. How long do you like to cut your firewood for these models? Oh, by the way, that chili looks some kinda gooood! :)

  • @JanColdwater
    @JanColdwater 2 роки тому

    You can burn seasoned, well dried pine and then throw some good hardwood to keep it burning hot and cleaner.

  • @dakota580
    @dakota580 Рік тому

    Amazing video man God bless, I subscribed as well
    I just recently bought the exact same stove but my flu collar doesn't include the damper like yours has, also how do you remove the white wool stuff and is it necessary??
    We use propane as a main source of heat but I grew up with wood stoves and had one in our previous home but propane is very expensive

  • @JAEUFM
    @JAEUFM Рік тому

    With 40 years of wood stove experience, the most important factors about the stove itself, is airflow, and as dry, [seasoned] wood that you can use. Clean flues, can't discount that. As for types of wood to turn, oaks, ask, locust, hedge, I would rate as the best heat producers. If you can get all those factors in alignment, and that comes with experience, a wood stove is a life saver when it comes to providing heat for your home.

  • @chrisouellette611
    @chrisouellette611 4 роки тому

    I have the same stove,i took out the wool on top of baffle,i took out damper and replaced it with a new one,i put damper in the pipe about chin level,im 5'6.......totally change the stove for the better,no smoke out the door,and way better draft,burns more efficient and gives off more heat alot faster...

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +2

      Wow. I also took the wool out last winter and noticed a huge difference. I just replaced the damper on the collar this year so I can have an actual handle to adjust it easier. Someone else also recommended to me to put a damper higher in the pipe so I am considering that also! 😀

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, we took the wool out as well. Game changer. I may put in a damper up high one day. :)

  • @dawsonenterprises4727
    @dawsonenterprises4727 4 роки тому +1

    Wood down coals front excellent thank you. N baby gates brilliant. I have 3 kids and fear that was thinking chicken wire.....but I can do baby gates ....

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  4 роки тому +1

      The baby gate gives us a lot of piece of mind. I don't worry about the kids touching it on purpose. I worry about a little over tripping and falling on to it while it's hot.

  • @Dale42069
    @Dale42069 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative, thank you very much. Looking at buying this model to heat my garage, did you remove thefirebird baffle?

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  2 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure what you mean by fire bird? I only removed the kao wool. 😁

  • @AhubahsLifestyle
    @AhubahsLifestyle 6 років тому

    Have you tried the creosote sweeping logs? The children look like they had a great time in their first snow.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  6 років тому

      +Set Apart Living Off Grid, I've never tried one but I've read others reviews of using them in wood burning stoves and they seem to be mixed. I guess I don't understand how you know if it worked or not. Would I have to wait till the chimney was bad again and then burn one and see if it got better?

  • @myslash09
    @myslash09 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for the info. I just got one of these stoves as a back up to are big stove. How much space are you heating with this model?

  • @strykerliker
    @strykerliker 2 роки тому

    Can you take stove pipes out at a 90 and then up above the roof line outside? I want to install one in my woodshop but I built a loft above and I really don't want to run it through the floor above.

  • @gracemercy6057
    @gracemercy6057 Рік тому

    Did this stove come with felt cloth attached to the opening where you put the piping. Speaking of where your fan is. If so do we leave that felt in that hole or do we remove it? I hope we can leave it because we have already attached piping to the ceiling.

  • @ileanasantiago2301
    @ileanasantiago2301 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the information but I believe the reason you have little smoke coming out is because the pipe connection from the stove should be the bottom pipe inside the next going up.

    • @StevensFamilyFarms
      @StevensFamilyFarms  3 роки тому +1

      It only leaked because it had a bad clog. Hasn't leaked in years now.

  • @D.K1975
    @D.K1975 Рік тому

    Just bought a wood stove like that and so is it must to have the damper on the start of the pipe ? There is a lot of stove that comes out when I open the front door