►Shop for merchandise: autogefuehl.shop/ ►Subscribe here: ua-cam.com/users/autogefuehl ►Also subscribe to our UA-cam shorts channel: www.youtube.com/@thomasautogefuhl?sub_confirmation=1 ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: ua-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/v-deo.htmlsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 This is our in-depth review of the 2024 VW Golf facelift, here the Golf Style. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience. 00:00 Golf logo and lights 00:59 Hatch vs Variant 01:26 Suspension and rear 02:26 Interior quality 03:24 Seats and comfort 04:03 Driver POV 04:39 Cockpit 05:47 Infotainment upgrade 06:32 Rear seats 07:38 Trunk / boot 08:32 Engines 09:10 Acceleration Autobahn 12:17 Noise and DCC comfort 15:45 Driving fun 19:47 Consumption economy 20:12 Price #VW #VWGolf
It is cheap now. The cheapest its ever been. I'm talking about quality of course. The price is the highest ever. That's a trend in all German cars, they're getting worse and worse, but more expensive at the same time. A sign of a dying car industry due to horrible politics in the country.
@@derbigpr500 totally agreed- as a former golf enthusiast. the only german company still trying to savor its roots is porsche. maybe you could add bmw if you think about the m3- but even its days are numbered.
@@KK001 exactly, funny how everyone is complaining that this and that got incredibly expensive.... What if I told you that it's your money that lost value, because someone just printed billions of new money and pumped it wherever they wanted to :)
@@martinkomora5525 its not billions its probably 10s of trillions. Biden deadass printed a whole trillion dollars to be sent directly to Ukraine about 2 years ago or so, on top of whatever had already been printed because of c*ovid. Inflation has yet to relax meaning theyre currently still printing at the same rate theyve been since 2020, more or less.
Whole dash is fugly. Too many flashing light externally with illuminated VW sign is all a bit like DIY add ons. No doubt this car will be better to drive than my 2018 7.5 R estate but I’m more than happy with the look internally and externally of my older version.
All these manufacturers going for infotainment control versus physical buttons is disgusting. If I use my mobile phone while driving I can potentially lose my driver's license, and rightfully so. But if I want to change the inside temperature I must look at the infotainment screen. What is the difference? Absolutely absurd, and so utterly disappointing, considering the combined experience of all the designers and executives at the top levels of car companies approving and pushing for this Absolutely obvious wrong direction.
Seriously. I thought the fad would end with Tesla sales slowing, but no.. I think manufacturers caught on that they can cut cost not manufacturing buttons and dials and instead use these cheaply available standard LCD screens. Until regulations come in to stop them they will continue making these built-in driver distraction units.
If you use your mobile phone in a bracket it is still allowed in Germany. Try to type in a Golf 7 on the MIB. It is really slow an you have to look down.
Data & facts: VW Golf facelift LED - LED Plus - Matrix LED Illuminated front logo Optional sports suspension or bad roads suspension Optional DCC 1.000 Euro 4,28 m 169“ hatch 4,63 m 182“ Variant 16”/17”/18" wheels 19” possible in sports models 10” infotainment for base models 13” beginning mid trim Optional HUD Fabric seats base Optional micro fibre 1,5 l TSI 116 hp 9,9s or 150 hp 8,6 s (6-spd manual or 7-spd DSG) 1.5 l TSI PHEV 204 hp 7,2s or 272 hp 6,6s (GTE) - 20 kWh 2,0 l TSI 190 hp or 265 hp GTI 5,9s 300 hp GTI Clubsport 5,6s Golf R 333 hp 4,6s 2.0 TDI 115 hp 10,2s or 150 hp 8,8s 27.000 Euro base 44.000 test vehicle US market: only Golf GTI and Golf R 27.000 Euro / pounds base 44.000 test vehicle Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
Love love love that you have started adding rear door closing sound/feel. Hope you enjoy your work as much as I and others enjoy the finished production! it is soooo gooot. Cheers for now ~ Roger
Don't get me wrong... I am more of a PSA guy but, if I had to buy a Golf or a Mercedes A Class, both at 44k, I would get the Golf. The interior is so much nicer! Of course that in the real world I would simply get a less expensive C4, 308 or Megane...
Its not vw's fault tho. The problem is your money losing half its value since 2020 because somebody felt like creating the flu 2.0 and convinced every its deadly.
44k for a golf is outrageous 🤯 I bought a new top spec 4x4 dacia duster for 22k after discounts. Works great and took it through floods and mountain roads which I would never do with a 44k golf
…I recently test drove the new Duster and although I definitely like Dacia a lot as they became the real Volkswagen for the normal people, It needs to be said that a Golf MK8 isn’t only a lot more expensive, it is also light years better in any aspect I can probably think of…. Quality, comfort, materials, craftsmanship, sound insulation, suspension, specs, equipment, etc… again, it’s expensive but once driving it, the price also shows!
Someone that buys a Dacia, is obv not a car guy. I don't blame you for thinking that the Duster is better than a mk8.5 Golf, lack of knowledge does such things.
@@j.h-sr7em I had a Porsche Cayman before, as much as it’s a lot of fun it’s just not worth the money at 3x the cost and it wouldn’t even take me on my mountain trips.
if they absolutely must be doing that LED craze, I'd rather it'd be just the badge and not the light bar. It looks so bad on the road, the lightbar is never the same hue as the headlights so it looks aftermarket from a mile away.
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for the MK9, they should put back the AC control knobs and buttons, (or take the one from the new Superb) and I'll seriously consider buying one.
Who needs the illuminated front grill? The same for the capacitive buttons instead of the real buttons for the main driving functions. The human body didn't change since the car was invented, therefore all we realy need is a safer and ergonomic driving not a causing distraction driving experience.
It's still iconic and classy, just like Autogefuehl. My father had a Mk 1 in 1977. 1.3 4spd manual, i think. So solid and 'European' after years of driving rattling British cars. Great times. Love and miss you, Dad x.
Hail physical buttons on the steering wheel once again, please make a comeback on the media - climate physical operations too, VW! (Also on the keys) That high-gloss pianoblack plastic piece left from the gadgets surrounding the capacitive BS lighting panel is hideous too.
They could make the whole windscreen become an infotainment screen, leaving only a small window to see the outside. Or they could install cameras and then we could see what's outside on the giant infotainment screen
$44,000 Euros WOW....that is $47,000 US for a GOLF. No wonder VW doesn't sell the Golf in the USA any longer, no one here would pay that much for a Golf. I do like how VW has changed some things, but honestly, all and all, I just prefer the MK7 and MK7.5 versions of the Golf better just on aesthetics inside and out. Can't believe how much vehicles are costing these days. Its mind blowing.
Love mine. I am getting 45-50 mpg when driven at 50-60 mph in the UK with the engine you have tested. I don 't need fancy graphics to show me how to close the hatch however. I would like a gas strut for the bonnet.
What is wrong with all car manufacturers these days 20 -30 years ago you can buy a golf or Corolla and use as family car , rear seats used to have as much room as Passat but now all hatchbacks are simply two + mini two That’s insanely stupid or purposely made to push buyers for more expensive suv type cars And these huge screens , unnecessary clutter
We still keep our original golf mk4 running as 3rd car, the best golf ever. The concept that if you properly maintain a german car it will last forever. It is that good that I was considering keeping the GLC as main car and getting as secondary a golf GTD, unfortunately they canceled the GTD :(
Very interesting comments on the NVH issues, thank you for that. Looking forward to seeing your review of the Variant version with the more potent diesel under the bonnet. Cheers from Poland, excellent job Majchrzak 👍
I wish VW would bring back the Golf to the United States. I love the GTI, but would like to have the option for a more affordable Golf. Nice car and a great review as always.
Me too. Am considering a GTI as my next car. Would downsize the wheels and add a resonator to quiet the exhaust. I just want a comfortable Golf sized vehicle.
They totally abandoned the "peoples car" approach that made them successful. They overpriced the new beetle so much it was a flop. They ruined the Passat in America with poor design and engine choices as well as overpriced. They overpriced the GTI and added all manner of electronics that the owners didnt want. They continue to make these blunders even today.
picked up my 2nd mk8 Variant last week, preFL, 1.5 etsi 130hp dsg, had a 2022 1.0tsi manual (covid era, lead time for dsg was 12months+, manuals were on the lot), the etsi surprised me. I have 1.5tsi in karoq that is disengaging to neutral when you lift-off, and I thought e-tsi would do the same but will just help to keep the rolling speed longer, but it shuts of the engine and it keeps you rolling for surprisingly long distance. On parking lots it kept me at 18kmh for a full circle till I found a free spot, it is really like driving a hybrid, which has its negatives too of course, the brake pedal is completely different than on base TSI engines without the mhev, most of the time you feel like your brakes failed, you have to really press it all the way down, you also have to learn to brake earlier and generally switch your mindset to a hybrid driving, I don't know the capacity of the small battery, but it is shutting off the engine... a lot more often than I would expect it for a mhev, If they would come with this technology 15 years ago when they first started putting start-stop in cars, killing 12v batteries and starters, people would not mind it that much. But im glad you can put on coolant and oil temperature to be shown in display, so I generally keep the dsg in sport mode until the oil is at least at 80C, otherwise on short drive, even 30km, in summer, your engine may take a long time to cross 90C, and oil temperature generally in modern engines runs ideally at 95-100C, I like the eTSI, I don't like comparing manuals and automatic, I do tend to rev the engine much higher than automatic would, basically like if the dsg would be in sport mode all the time, but my average consumption on 1.0tsi 200nm 110hp manual was 5.7-6.1, on all-season tyres, on this 1.5 etsi 130hp 200Nm it's 5.1. I don't really care about the consumption, I reckon other drivers would get bigger differnce, but I like that now I don't mind start/stop to be left alone, that I produce less noise in the city, does not really make a difference in the cabin, below 90kmh you don't really know if the engine is running or not, I have to keep the rpm gauge on to actually know if the engine is shut off or not. It makes me want to buy a hybrid next time, which is weird for me to even think about it.
Does the new Golf 8.5 1.5TSI still have COD (Cylinder on demand) where it goes down to 2 cylinder mode when there is low power needed? My 7.5 Golf has that. I think it is a nice feature. I can't find it on the official Volkswagen site.
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Nothing beats a manual on the open road. A crying shame that golfs are sold in many countries without a manual option. No one is scrapping their car when the clutch goes but plenty will when the dsg lunches itself
Loved my Golf but had to switch to Tiguan as Golf was too low for my old body! Loved the way it handled even though it was small engine (2022 US version) and somewhat de-contented. Still very peppy car, such a joy to drive. Thomas here’s a shoutout to your always good looking footwear. Oh yes, and stylish glasses.
It’s insane the Mk 8 Golf costs $50K in Australia when it was $30K for a Mk 7 when it came out. No one buys them anymore because no one can afford them
I love by GTI but the price has gone up a lot. I was looking at manual GTIs in 2018 and they were going for about 27,000. I decided to go for a M240i convertible. However, when I found out the manual was being discontinued, I decided to buy one before they were gone. I like it but it was 37,500. That's a big increase for only six years. I think it's a bit crazy the car prices now adays. I am now looking at a CLE 450 conv. but the price is crazy. I am not in a hurry but if I wait, they'll just keep rising. I have a lot to think about.
Hi, you know what I like about the Golf? It's the design and styling of the car, it's a bit more "conservative" when compared to other brands and direct competitors like 308, Ceed, i30 etc. it has it's own elegance. Of course there are really good alternatives from a price perspective but the Golf is the kind of car that doesn't scream "look at me, look at me" and I like that. Can you also please start the Piano Black Police similar to the Fake Exhaust Police? :D
VW Golf 7 won the Car of the Year with a whopping 400+ points from the jury (highest ever points if I'm not wrong). I've Golf 7. It would be very interesting if you could compare Golf 7 versus Golf 8 Facelift. For example, comparing driving comfort, noise insulation, etc.
I just upgraded from mk7 1.4tsi to mk8 1.5tsi. The mk8 is much louder, both road noise and engine. Also, there is more vibration and a less settled ride. Steering is more responsive, though.
In these days I have to change my old Golf, I'm considering this new Golf 8.5 (1.5 mild hybrid) and the Honda Civic e:HEV (full hybrid), same price (with the same specs) but very different cars. Which should I choose? Which is the best?
I would like to see some more on the transmission, I have a 2023 version with the automatic transmission and I don't like it, it is very efficient, but it is veery jerky and annoying on downhills
@@autogefuehl thanks. Last question. And what about ride quality and noise? golf has mcferson while Octavia has torsion beam. Does that feel different according to you
yes. The mild hybrid push system is build inside the gearbox. That is the reason that dsg gets mild hybrid but the manual does not. In the case of Ford Focus and Mazda the mild hybrid electric motor is attached to the crankshaft by pulleys so it always comes with it.
Super gorgeous rear lights with that shadowing effect. Would love a car with a "bad roads" feature; here in California are roads are pretty bad now; not as bad as Brasil but definitely way worse than 10 years ago. Thin tires are a recipe for a cracked rim. Sadly, we only get the Golf R and GTI in the USA, when the plain Golf would be a much more practical product. And of course we aren't allowed to have the economical Diesel version; after the scandal VW will never import a diesel again. And of course we aren't allowed to have the more reliable manual transmission version. If you want your car to go 500k miles, a manual transmission is the best way to go. And of course we don't get the Estate (wagon) version. the US gets screwed over and over by the foreign car companies who only send us their most expensive, largest, vehicles. So we just drool over Hilux and mini Asian trucks, and the practical cars that are so abundant in Europe. So we are left with 48k avg price SUV's.
Hi Thomas! I had a Golf 5 and am now driving a 7.5. I bought a 8.5 R Line with a lot of discount 🎉 I just could not give 2000€ for matrix led lights, lights are lights, not gimmicks, you seem to find them very important 😊
The mild hybrid probably has worse MPG during highway driving compared to the ICE manual model, right? Since it has to lug the battery's extra weight without really using it
The Golf 7 was always praised for its roomy interior, especially in the rear. How come the knee room in the Golf 8 gets criticized now ? Is it smaller now than in the Golf 7 or has just the standard changed since many of the competitors have gotten more spacious ?
I remember back in the day when the Golf was the affordable go to vehicle for many. Now idk who would actually buy one, at least one that is not bare bones. Those with nostalgia maybe? Anyway i would always prefer the Civic. The Civic hybrid and the Prius are the absolute kings in the segment.
Interesting...my first Golf 2 was really expensive...you had to work at least two years for it...today it is still expensive, but the average salary is at 34k/year in Germany, which means it got not more expensive at all... But it has way more Features, Assistent Systems and much much higher Security at Crashs.
Now add the average 3% to 5% Inflation for those 8 years...and the money for all the Assitant Systems...wether you like it or not...and you will end at this price point, too...but no one really pays a Golf for the Listprice...you always get a Discount or better lease it
VW and Audi do the best exterior lighting signature. This Golf however seems quite noisy. VW dont use double door seals on the front doors on the Golf and Polo.
20:14 The fact that you can even get a "normal" (i.e. not GTI/GTR/Golf R) for €44,000 - as tested - is pretty wild. Not too long ago, that type of money would get you a very, _very_ nice Audi A4.
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This is our in-depth review of the 2024 VW Golf facelift, here the Golf Style. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 Golf logo and lights
00:59 Hatch vs Variant
01:26 Suspension and rear
02:26 Interior quality
03:24 Seats and comfort
04:03 Driver POV
04:39 Cockpit
05:47 Infotainment upgrade
06:32 Rear seats
07:38 Trunk / boot
08:32 Engines
09:10 Acceleration Autobahn
12:17 Noise and DCC comfort
15:45 Driving fun
19:47 Consumption economy
20:12 Price
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golf wont be back until its cheap and affordable again. we are seeing golf's reaching 50k euro, wtf?
It is cheap now. The cheapest its ever been. I'm talking about quality of course. The price is the highest ever. That's a trend in all German cars, they're getting worse and worse, but more expensive at the same time. A sign of a dying car industry due to horrible politics in the country.
@@derbigpr500 totally agreed- as a former golf enthusiast. the only german company still trying to savor its roots is porsche. maybe you could add bmw if you think about the m3- but even its days are numbered.
@@derbigpr500nothing to do with politics only greed and financial targets of the shareholders / management !
@hughlevantjames905 I don't believe there are many mildly said naive to buy a golf for that price
100 procent agree
44k for a Golf??? Man the market is just nuts!
It aint the market, its ur money thats worthless all of a sudden cuz we let the goverment fuck around.
@@KK001 exactly, funny how everyone is complaining that this and that got incredibly expensive.... What if I told you that it's your money that lost value, because someone just printed billions of new money and pumped it wherever they wanted to :)
And it's nowhere near the quality it once had.
@@martinkomora5525 its not billions its probably 10s of trillions. Biden deadass printed a whole trillion dollars to be sent directly to Ukraine about 2 years ago or so, on top of whatever had already been printed because of c*ovid. Inflation has yet to relax meaning theyre currently still printing at the same rate theyve been since 2020, more or less.
That screen is comically oversized.
Another interior where it looks like an iPad has been glued to the dashboard too 👎
Agree it looks idiotic
yep
Whole dash is fugly. Too many flashing light externally with illuminated VW sign is all a bit like DIY add ons.
No doubt this car will be better to drive than my 2018 7.5 R estate but I’m more than happy with the look internally and externally of my older version.
That display is stupidly big
All these manufacturers going for infotainment control versus physical buttons is disgusting. If I use my mobile phone while driving I can potentially lose my driver's license, and rightfully so. But if I want to change the inside temperature I must look at the infotainment screen. What is the difference? Absolutely absurd, and so utterly disappointing, considering the combined experience of all the designers and executives at the top levels of car companies approving and pushing for this Absolutely obvious wrong direction.
Indeed
Seriously. I thought the fad would end with Tesla sales slowing, but no.. I think manufacturers caught on that they can cut cost not manufacturing buttons and dials and instead use these cheaply available standard LCD screens. Until regulations come in to stop them they will continue making these built-in driver distraction units.
If you use your mobile phone in a bracket it is still allowed in Germany. Try to type in a Golf 7 on the MIB. It is really slow an you have to look down.
They push it beauce its cheaper than having buttons. One fat screen for all the controls
I hate the huge screen. It's just too big. Good that they brought back normal buttons on the steering wheel. The price is ridiculous.
The old buttons are not good. The car is expensive
Data & facts:
VW Golf facelift
LED - LED Plus - Matrix LED
Illuminated front logo
Optional sports suspension or bad roads suspension
Optional DCC 1.000 Euro
4,28 m 169“ hatch
4,63 m 182“ Variant
16”/17”/18" wheels
19” possible in sports models
10” infotainment for base models
13” beginning mid trim
Optional HUD
Fabric seats base
Optional micro fibre
1,5 l TSI 116 hp 9,9s or 150 hp 8,6 s (6-spd manual or 7-spd DSG)
1.5 l TSI PHEV 204 hp 7,2s or 272 hp 6,6s (GTE) - 20 kWh
2,0 l TSI 190 hp or
265 hp GTI 5,9s
300 hp GTI Clubsport 5,6s
Golf R 333 hp 4,6s
2.0 TDI 115 hp 10,2s or 150 hp 8,8s
27.000 Euro base
44.000 test vehicle
US market: only Golf GTI and Golf R
27.000 Euro / pounds base
44.000 test vehicle
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Wait, did he really said that the price of that model tested was 44k euro ?! Is that a mistake or ... ?
Damn i would say its 24. Not even auto transmission...
Love love love that you have started adding rear door closing sound/feel. Hope you enjoy your work as much as I and others enjoy the finished production! it is soooo gooot. Cheers for now ~ Roger
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It's called "Volkswagen", but people can't afford it. Well done!
This is why it is the second largest OEM after Toyota...
The goverments done fucked us once again.
TeuerVolkswagen
Its ok, but still its just a Golf for 44k for this lets say goood specces model....thats insane.
Don't get me wrong... I am more of a PSA guy but, if I had to buy a Golf or a Mercedes A Class, both at 44k, I would get the Golf.
The interior is so much nicer!
Of course that in the real world I would simply get a less expensive C4, 308 or Megane...
Its not vw's fault tho. The problem is your money losing half its value since 2020 because somebody felt like creating the flu 2.0 and convinced every its deadly.
@@PartizanSRB this price is just in Germany.
Thats hybrid camry price. Germans are insane
44k for a golf is outrageous 🤯 I bought a new top spec 4x4 dacia duster for 22k after discounts. Works great and took it through floods and mountain roads which I would never do with a 44k golf
…I recently test drove the new Duster and although I definitely like Dacia a lot as they became the real Volkswagen for the normal people, It needs to be said that a Golf MK8 isn’t only a lot more expensive, it is also light years better in any aspect I can probably think of…. Quality, comfort, materials, craftsmanship, sound insulation, suspension, specs, equipment, etc… again, it’s expensive but once driving it, the price also shows!
Someone that buys a Dacia, is obv not a car guy. I don't blame you for thinking that the Duster is better than a mk8.5 Golf, lack of knowledge does such things.
@@j.h-sr7em I had a Porsche Cayman before, as much as it’s a lot of fun it’s just not worth the money at 3x the cost and it wouldn’t even take me on my mountain trips.
Did you expect a Cayman to get you through floods and off-roads? 😂
dacia vs. volkswagen? Lol
That illuminated VW grill badge looks so AliExpress
no, it's not.
@hamsterclamper true
@@Elixir9 Send me the link for my Golf7 from aliexpress
For the intended market?!
if they absolutely must be doing that LED craze, I'd rather it'd be just the badge and not the light bar. It looks so bad on the road, the lightbar is never the same hue as the headlights so it looks aftermarket from a mile away.
for the MK9, they should put back the AC control knobs and buttons, (or take the one from the new Superb) and I'll seriously consider buying one.
I've heard there will be no mk9. Id3 replaces it.
Nice to see that VW have created a separate "check engine" light outside the digital cluster. Should make it easier to take the bulb out...
Who needs the illuminated front grill?
The same for the capacitive buttons instead of the real buttons for the main driving functions.
The human body didn't change since the car was invented, therefore all we realy need is a safer and ergonomic driving not a causing distraction driving experience.
It's still iconic and classy, just like Autogefuehl.
My father had a Mk 1 in 1977. 1.3 4spd manual, i think. So solid and 'European' after years of driving rattling British cars.
Great times. Love and miss you, Dad x.
I can very much relate my friend
I don't understand why are they putting all the digital B's not analog and cheap scratchy plastics in a car over 40 thousand what a ripp off
Great video and Very good presentation. I don’t like the screen placed in the middle of the new Golf car dashboard
Thanks 🙏
Hail physical buttons on the steering wheel once again, please make a comeback on the media - climate physical operations too, VW! (Also on the keys) That high-gloss pianoblack plastic piece left from the gadgets surrounding the capacitive BS lighting panel is hideous too.
I wish the steering wheel was just for steering. McLaren’s approach, using toggles around the dashboard and a pure steering wheel is genius!
Waiting for SavageGeese to review the Piano black and whitelack of B58 in it. AI Jack will be disappointed…
They could make the whole windscreen become an infotainment screen, leaving only a small window to see the outside. Or they could install cameras and then we could see what's outside on the giant infotainment screen
Still doesn’t beat the mk 7.5 golf
$44,000 Euros WOW....that is $47,000 US for a GOLF. No wonder VW doesn't sell the Golf in the USA any longer, no one here would pay that much for a Golf. I do like how VW has changed some things, but honestly, all and all, I just prefer the MK7 and MK7.5 versions of the Golf better just on aesthetics inside and out. Can't believe how much vehicles are costing these days. Its mind blowing.
Love mine. I am getting 45-50 mpg when driven at 50-60 mph in the UK with the engine you have tested. I don 't need fancy graphics to show me how to close the hatch however. I would like a gas strut for the bonnet.
Thanks for the feedback!
Door closing sound 🎉🎉🎉
🙌🙌
They returned the buttons on the wheel, now it remains to put back the manual controls for the climate unit
What is wrong with all car manufacturers these days
20 -30 years ago you can buy a golf or Corolla and use as family car , rear seats used to have as much room as Passat but now all hatchbacks are simply two + mini two
That’s insanely stupid or purposely made to push buyers for more expensive suv type cars
And these huge screens , unnecessary clutter
You know that you have a Golf Variant right?
What? Golf 1 or 2 are smaller than a todays Polo...
We still keep our original golf mk4 running as 3rd car, the best golf ever. The concept that if you properly maintain a german car it will last forever. It is that good that I was considering keeping the GLC as main car and getting as secondary a golf GTD, unfortunately they canceled the GTD :(
Mk4 best Golf gen indeed
I have that golf, but stupid climate policy in Spain will forbid me from using it in 2025...🤬
How so?
@@autogefuehl old cars like mine can't be used in cities like Madrid from 2025
@@MFSTRidiculous. C0mm13s taking over.😮
Viva Cristo Rey! Viva Franco! Arriba España!
Golf is getting better and better and what I love about it, is that you can always count on it, in fact, you can always count on the entire VW family.
You are joking, right?
you can count on them to burn oil even after 10k km
Nice review meet❤
Very interesting comments on the NVH issues, thank you for that. Looking forward to seeing your review of the Variant version with the more potent diesel under the bonnet.
Cheers from Poland, excellent job Majchrzak 👍
Thanks best greetings!
Thanks for your review Thomas. Please review the GTE model ASAP. I'm eager to see that on the German autobahn.
I wish VW would bring back the Golf to the United States.
I love the GTI, but would like to have the option for a more affordable Golf.
Nice car and a great review as always.
Thanks m8!
Me too. Am considering a GTI as my next car. Would downsize the wheels and add a resonator to quiet the exhaust. I just want a comfortable Golf sized vehicle.
Thanks for this nostalgic ride with a manual gear shifted Golf!
9:48
With great shifting comes great responsibility
😁
I can get a CLA for this price
VW has blown more opportunities than any carmaker in history.
They totally abandoned the "peoples car" approach that made them successful. They overpriced the new beetle so much it was a flop. They ruined the Passat in America with poor design and engine choices as well as overpriced. They overpriced the GTI and added all manner of electronics that the owners didnt want. They continue to make these blunders even today.
Decent sense of humour on the disco lights. 😅
What happened at 9:26, the km/h jumped from 85 to 104 and while shifting and then back again to 91 ?
Thomas's outfit co-ordination is on point, again 😍💯
thanks m8 =)
Thomas love to love you the best automotive reviewer there is 😍😍😍 too accurate too objective too realistic plz some more.
thanks so much !
picked up my 2nd mk8 Variant last week, preFL, 1.5 etsi 130hp dsg, had a 2022 1.0tsi manual (covid era, lead time for dsg was 12months+, manuals were on the lot), the etsi surprised me. I have 1.5tsi in karoq that is disengaging to neutral when you lift-off, and I thought e-tsi would do the same but will just help to keep the rolling speed longer, but it shuts of the engine and it keeps you rolling for surprisingly long distance. On parking lots it kept me at 18kmh for a full circle till I found a free spot, it is really like driving a hybrid, which has its negatives too of course, the brake pedal is completely different than on base TSI engines without the mhev, most of the time you feel like your brakes failed, you have to really press it all the way down, you also have to learn to brake earlier and generally switch your mindset to a hybrid driving, I don't know the capacity of the small battery, but it is shutting off the engine... a lot more often than I would expect it for a mhev, If they would come with this technology 15 years ago when they first started putting start-stop in cars, killing 12v batteries and starters, people would not mind it that much. But im glad you can put on coolant and oil temperature to be shown in display, so I generally keep the dsg in sport mode until the oil is at least at 80C, otherwise on short drive, even 30km, in summer, your engine may take a long time to cross 90C, and oil temperature generally in modern engines runs ideally at 95-100C, I like the eTSI, I don't like comparing manuals and automatic, I do tend to rev the engine much higher than automatic would, basically like if the dsg would be in sport mode all the time, but my average consumption on 1.0tsi 200nm 110hp manual was 5.7-6.1, on all-season tyres, on this 1.5 etsi 130hp 200Nm it's 5.1. I don't really care about the consumption, I reckon other drivers would get bigger differnce, but I like that now I don't mind start/stop to be left alone, that I produce less noise in the city, does not really make a difference in the cabin, below 90kmh you don't really know if the engine is running or not, I have to keep the rpm gauge on to actually know if the engine is shut off or not. It makes me want to buy a hybrid next time, which is weird for me to even think about it.
thanks for feedback !
Does the new Golf 8.5 1.5TSI still have COD (Cylinder on demand) where it goes down to 2 cylinder mode when there is low power needed? My 7.5 Golf has that. I think it is a nice feature.
I can't find it on the official Volkswagen site.
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Nothing beats a manual on the open road. A crying shame that golfs are sold in many countries without a manual option. No one is scrapping their car when the clutch goes but plenty will when the dsg lunches itself
I really hate Volkswagen Group Cup holder location in middle console . Its not comfortable(btw I have Cupra)
Indeed! The correct placement is to the right of the gear lever.
Hello Thomas. As usually professional test. One question: any rumors about GTD version?
Thanks 🙏 defo no GTD
I like your presentation's
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Too expensive for a golf
Dear Thomas can you try the lowest trim level golf the most affortable.
Not only the highest.
Thank you good job perfect videos😊😊
Always trying, but test vehicles are rare in low trims!
Thanks my friend !
Loved my Golf but had to switch to Tiguan as Golf was too low for my old body! Loved the way it handled even though it was small engine (2022 US version) and somewhat de-contented. Still very peppy car, such a joy to drive. Thomas here’s a shoutout to your always good looking footwear. Oh yes, and stylish glasses.
highly appreciated my friend !
The best reliable types of golf....love it ❤
We want new Tucson review! :)
Love everything about it except the tacky giant screen and lack of physical controls. If that was sorted it would be a perfect vehicle.
I wish the new passat had the same design as this. It looks very good. Too bad about the sound insulation.
Why is this TV screwed up🤦🏿♂️
The rear hand-holds on the boot lid have been on nearly every VW I've owned - and yet hardly anybody knows they are there or what they are for.
Hi Thomas ...will the golf facelift have an alltrack version ? ...ps they fixed the design big time
I dont think so but if so, we ll keep u updated
It’s insane the Mk 8 Golf costs $50K in Australia when it was $30K for a Mk 7 when it came out. No one buys them anymore because no one can afford them
Interesting...in Germany we have record sales since this Facelift came out...they have to produce it 24h a day to be able to deliver the ordered Cars.
Great review as usual!! Just one question, what is the new camera model you are using which is mounted on the front windshield?
thanks! you mean the perspective that shows me or the road?
@@autogefuehlthe one which is showing you, the slim camera
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I love by GTI but the price has gone up a lot. I was looking at manual GTIs in 2018 and they were going for about 27,000. I decided to go for a M240i convertible. However, when I found out the manual was being discontinued, I decided to buy one before they were gone. I like it but it was 37,500. That's a big increase for only six years. I think it's a bit crazy the car prices now adays. I am now looking at a CLE 450 conv. but the price is crazy. I am not in a hurry but if I wait, they'll just keep rising. I have a lot to think about.
As long as the buttons are normal, this should be a far better car!
Hi, you know what I like about the Golf? It's the design and styling of the car, it's a bit more "conservative" when compared to other brands and direct competitors like 308, Ceed, i30 etc. it has it's own elegance. Of course there are really good alternatives from a price perspective but the Golf is the kind of car that doesn't scream "look at me, look at me" and I like that.
Can you also please start the Piano Black Police similar to the Fake Exhaust Police? :D
Thomas Do you prefer this or the Golf 7.5 ? As 7.5 has physical buttons ?
7.5 for sure
VW Golf 7 won the Car of the Year with a whopping 400+ points from the jury (highest ever points if I'm not wrong).
I've Golf 7.
It would be very interesting if you could compare Golf 7 versus Golf 8 Facelift.
For example, comparing driving comfort, noise insulation, etc.
I just upgraded from mk7 1.4tsi to mk8 1.5tsi. The mk8 is much louder, both road noise and engine. Also, there is more vibration and a less settled ride. Steering is more responsive, though.
@@spr0123 congrats 🎉 So you bought Mark-8 or Mark-8 Facelift?
I bought mk8, not face-lift.
In these days I have to change my old Golf, I'm considering this new Golf 8.5 (1.5 mild hybrid) and the Honda Civic e:HEV (full hybrid), same price (with the same specs) but very different cars. Which should I choose? Which is the best?
Compare it here: ua-cam.com/video/dzjoEHWq3mI/v-deo.htmlsi=tVmhpVwn6gDo_LKi
@@autogefuehl Thank you
These interiors with what looks look an iPad glued to the dashboard really
sets off my OCD. This a deal breaker for me .
Nice. I love my Golf ✌
My first VW was $2200 included sunroof and new for that year (1965) A GAS GUAGE! No radio but otherwise a fun car from Bob Smith VW in Hollywood.
I would like to see some more on the transmission, I have a 2023 version with the automatic transmission and I don't like it, it is very efficient, but it is veery jerky and annoying on downhills
Thomas, which one is better - Octavia 2024 Facelift or this new Golf 8.5? Thanks
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Octavia offers more space for sure
But u rather have to compare it with the Golf Variant
@@autogefuehl thanks. Last question. And what about ride quality and noise? golf has mcferson while Octavia has torsion beam. Does that feel different according to you
I need to re check but as far as i remember they change to multi link if u have more than 150 hp and it is maybe also included in DCC. I gotta ask
Could you please add an ASMR quality check section, while reviewing the interior part?
We do a lot of that actually! Both in the long reviews and also on our shorts socials
Does the Wagon have the plug-in hybrid?
Sure
1.5 tsi mhev With dsg?
1.5 tsi with manual?
yes. The mild hybrid push system is build inside the gearbox. That is the reason that dsg gets mild hybrid but the manual does not. In the case of Ford Focus and Mazda the mild hybrid electric motor is attached to the crankshaft by pulleys so it always comes with it.
Super gorgeous rear lights with that shadowing effect. Would love a car with a "bad roads" feature; here in California are roads are pretty bad now; not as bad as Brasil but definitely way worse than 10 years ago. Thin tires are a recipe for a cracked rim. Sadly, we only get the Golf R and GTI in the USA, when the plain Golf would be a much more practical product. And of course we aren't allowed to have the economical Diesel version; after the scandal VW will never import a diesel again. And of course we aren't allowed to have the more reliable manual transmission version. If you want your car to go 500k miles, a manual transmission is the best way to go. And of course we don't get the Estate (wagon) version. the US gets screwed over and over by the foreign car companies who only send us their most expensive, largest, vehicles. So we just drool over Hilux and mini Asian trucks, and the practical cars that are so abundant in Europe. So we are left with 48k avg price SUV's.
Will this be launched in India?
Hi Thomas! I had a Golf 5 and am now driving a 7.5. I bought a 8.5 R Line with a lot of discount 🎉 I just could not give 2000€ for matrix led lights, lights are lights, not gimmicks, you seem to find them very important 😊
The mild hybrid probably has worse MPG during highway driving compared to the ICE manual model, right? Since it has to lug the battery's extra weight without really using it
also on the motorway you often go of the throttle in a lot of situations...
why cant they make just a simple car that cost less , dont need to change the appearance of the speedometer , dont want the engine off at lights
guys, would you go for a Golf or Cupra Leon?
The Golf 7 was always praised for its roomy interior, especially in the rear.
How come the knee room in the Golf 8 gets criticized now ?
Is it smaller now than in the Golf 7 or has just the standard changed since many of the competitors have gotten more spacious ?
Never praised the Golf hatch for knee room, it is tight
Never praised the Golf hatch for knee room, it is tight
The MK7.5 Golf still looks better than this - inside and out.
I remember back in the day when the Golf was the affordable go to vehicle for many. Now idk who would actually buy one, at least one that is not bare bones. Those with nostalgia maybe? Anyway i would always prefer the Civic. The Civic hybrid and the Prius are the absolute kings in the segment.
Interesting...my first Golf 2 was really expensive...you had to work at least two years for it...today it is still expensive, but the average salary is at 34k/year in Germany, which means it got not more expensive at all... But it has way more Features, Assistent Systems and much much higher Security at Crashs.
I think the new Passat B9 is underpriced while this Golf is overpriced.
I am an engineer and don't like new golf
Is the ‘bad road’ suspension the ‘heavy duty’ suspension on the options lizt
Yes
@@autogefuehlthanks. Great video again!!
From price, this mid trim competes with Tesla Model 3. Which one would you suggest?
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If your charging infrastructure is good…
I paid $26,000 for my 2016 Golf SE and I thought that was expensive... almost $50,000 for a Golf today seems insane to me
Now add the average 3% to 5% Inflation for those 8 years...and the money for all the Assitant Systems...wether you like it or not...and you will end at this price point, too...but no one really pays a Golf for the Listprice...you always get a Discount or better lease it
It is quite a step up in silence from the previous generation anyway. Comparing prefacelift.
GTI review soon?
As soon as available
40TDI/GTD discontinued?
VW and Audi do the best exterior lighting signature. This Golf however seems quite noisy. VW dont use double door seals on the front doors on the Golf and Polo.
The wheels and Pale Grey interior colours on the previous model were much nicer
How would you compare this to the Audi A3 in terms of how they drive, infotainment systems and rear seat comfort/space?
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@@autogefuehl thanks but does the video compare it to the Golf ?
There cant be any golf vs a3 facelift video yet
The new face-lift is well worth
20:14 The fact that you can even get a "normal" (i.e. not GTI/GTR/Golf R) for €44,000 - as tested - is pretty wild.
Not too long ago, that type of money would get you a very, _very_ nice Audi A4.
I presume this one has the mandatory Intelligent Speed Assist. How has VW implemented it, is it intrusive, and how easy is it to turn off?
I think I showed exactly that in this review!
Best golf ever 😊
Has the internal maps improved
Anyone who owns a smartphone in 2024 isn't going to use it anyway. Google maps/Waze/Apple Maps are far superior.
it did, I had a test drive 2weeks ago, works great now