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Engine lineup 1.5 TSI 130 hp / 150 hp 9,1 s (both FWD) 2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD 2.0 TSI 265 hp AWD 1.5 TSI PHEV 204 hp 8,2 s / 272 hp 7,2 s (both FWD) 20 kWh net 2.0 TDI 150 hp FWD 2.0 TDI 193 hp AWD 7,7 s
Thomas and Leah, I so enjoy your in depth reviews on new car’s. What I especially enjoy is when Thomas goes into great technical detailed analysis of the amazing technology and engineering of German car’s. In my opinion Germany makes the best cars in the world. I have been fortunate enough to have had 4 BMW’S cars over the years- superb cars- especially the 3 series. I have been on the autobahn at speed just INCREDIBLE! Anyway Excellent viewing guys.Thank you both.take care. 🇦🇺
The price is absolutely insane 🤯 70k€... WTF ?!? For a mid diesel engine... Tiguan was one of the best SUV out there in Europe, always a bit pricey ok but for a great combo Price/equipment/quality/power. Now it's not anymore.
No, starting price for the new Tiguan is 37,000€ for a 1.5 eTSI (gas) or 41,500€ for the 2.0 TDI (diesel). Starting price for the R-line 2.0 TDI SCR 4MOTION is 56,000€ and 58,000€ for the plug-in hybrid 1.5 eHybrid version. It's a bit less than 70,000€ for a fully speced R-line.
The problem is the trend thats going on right now. Something new is coming out, so it must be more expensive than the previous generation. You can see this trend everywhere: cars, hardware, electronics, even groceries, everything is getting more and more expensive, whilst the (build)quality is rapidly going down.
Wait one year and get the Jahreswagen. I got my 2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line for almost 40% less than the original price. It already has 36000km in it when I bought it but feels and drives like new.
Great review. You made me chuckle when you were talking about 'the colour gey was the most popular in Germany' and you're stood there in - gray trainers, grey pants and a gray top! 🤣👍
@thore8978 it's lost that more square, stancey look. It's alot more rounded, much more like the peugeots and other brands SUV's. The last 1 looked distinctive compared the other, "less premium" brands.
I’ve had my new Tiguan R Line for two weeks now. With the York 20inch alloys, keyless entry and power boot in dolphin grey. I absolutely love it! Interior quality is far better than the old shape, drives like a dream! Don’t understand all the hating comments honestly Vw have upped their game with the build quality (they needed too as they’ve been on a downward spiral over the years!)
Great video as always. I was surprised how quiet the cabin is while driving on the Autobahn especially with the TDI engine. 70,000 euros equals $76,000 US! That's amazing.
Starting R line with a basic diesel engine is around 50 000. You add 4 wheel drive, stronger engine, retractable roof, towing hook, optional Colour, optional 20 inch wheels, IQ light, Hamam Kardon sound system and yes, you can end up in a 70 000€ region 😊
You don't need to put everything in the car when buying new, thankfully they give you plenty of choices so the prices vary. Tiguan for 35.200€ is what we bought and couldn't be happier with how much stuff it comes with, very few cars in this class come near this unless they have a 1.2 three-cylinder garbage in them.
Thanks for new video Thomas! I much prefer the prev generation, it looks more aggresive and blocky. I like the gave back real buttons on the steering wheel, now just to change back the AC controls. Also, the centre armrest looks so tacky for the price point. I don't understand how you can pay so much for a vehicle and it looks so bad. It doesn't even look like a premium vehicle. Rear AC control unit looks like installed into a cheap aliexpress middle console. The doors look cheap and nasty. My gf drives the previus gen 2.0Tsi and it looks way more premium than this!
No the Porsche and all cars are becoming more expensive, in relative relationship it stays the same. The higher prices are due to CO2 policies & regulations, inflation and the fact that more and more features are becoming standard. Like with this new Tiguan it only comes with DCC (automatic gearing). That is a quite new development for Europe
@@mlohr1 I didn't doubt them becoming 'more' expensive. I pointed out that buying the specific one will require a fortune to do so. I'm European and I'm aware of what they do. In my country, the 911 range starts from €100.000, where as the average house price locally is around €280.000, which pretty much sums up what I wanted to point out
@@mlohr1 apart from the fact that most people don't need the DCC crap, unless they're some fancy "Fans" princess that wants to keep their bottom round when coming back to mom and dad on a very poor rural road. Many "optional" things that are included in the new cars are just useless, but make the car more expensive.
Hi Thomas Thanks for another awesome review - love the way you do them!! However - just one statistic that you never mentioned - the distance from the back of the driver/front passenger seat to the lip of the tailgate please? You only gave us the 90cm measurement from the back of the rear seats to the tailgate I believe. Thanks in advance if you can tell us that All the best Mark
At 10:30 of the video Tomas mention a Tiguan not recognizing the key and applying brakes on the highway. Thank you Tomas that you have real reviews. My brand new Tiguan 1.5 Tsi 150 Hp, some times did not turn on with warning: Low 12 V Battery Voltage, and another electronic problem that i had: some safety systems like lane assist, ACC, Side Assist turned to yellow after having 2000 km. All above fixed with VW software upgrade from the local dealer, but i had to wait for weeks until the software released.I am scary to hear about the key recognition problem and braking problem on the highway,at least never happened to me. Other on that the car is very quiet with high insulation, has nice material quality, and has fantastic space for its 454 cm length and good driving ride. Also my average consumption is 6.4lt/100 km.
That's normal, all prices have gone up and this is the most expensive version of the car, the car has everything built in that the series offers, this car can keep up with any Audi, Mercedes or Bmw. that's okay.
@@thore8978 i guess there are always customers that will pay whatever companies want 🤣 Even Thomas was surprised over 70k... but u r behaving like its normal price lol.
@@simonrajh okay look; I have just configured the Peugot 3008, which now costs 59k euros with every option picked, but this is not a sports version (because there is none) without a glass roof, without an electric tailgate, without a cool wireless charging function etc. etc. The base model of the Tiguan is of course also significantly cheaper, the point is that everything is installed in the model shown.
Two things. It looks ok but lacks VW DNA in the design. It looks much like 2014 Mitsubishi Outlander. Another thing is this enormous screen. It gets ridicules! Hope new NCAP regulations will bring buttons and dials (so much more ergonomic) and reduce slightly screen sizes. I think (my opinion only) something between 10 and 12 inches is the sweet spot. Presentation as always on the highest level. 👍
I enjoyed that, especially back to back with the Renault Rafale review. Both Tiguan and Rafale as reviewed have some kind of adaptive suspension. The Rafale also had the AW Steering. From memory the Rafale as reviewed cost somewhere between €50k and €60k, whereas this Tiguan costs €75k and is not even an EV with all that battery cost. I suspect I would hate the Rafale suspension which will be too Gallic for me, but the AW steering is quite a stunner at the price. We can quibble about the relative merits of each car’s looks, interiors, and UI/UX but I think VW needs to look quite hard at the Rafale.
Hi Thomas, do you have any information back from VW about the "Key not in the car" issue? I saw report from one Tiguan's owner about the situation happened to him and I am a bit afraid of that. It looks like his car suddenly lost the power and the break become stiffer. I do not know how many units are affected but it looks very serious.
kia implementation for all smart and digital features is way better than most of European companies, just drove the kia Sorento and wow what a car for 2024 model
Thank you so much for your presentation, is highly appreciated especially that you take a critical approach in reviewing cars. Please let me know your opinion on what will be your pick between VW Tiguan and Renault Rafale. Please comment also on the insulation of the two cars and smoothness of the engine. thank you so much.
Cheers! Engine and Insulation is surely better with the Tiguan, if you want to pay the extra price. Rafale is consistently animal free in the interior what is very important to me
Model Y is way way better fammily option Better price Bigger car Better performance More standard features Better Tech Ah, yes, this is why Model Y was No1 sales in 2023 in Europe, vw's home, and in entire world
Hi do you know if theres any Tiguan R with 300+ hp coming? Or any Tiguan GTS that had 245 hp diesel...or perhaps a version with the Golf GTI engine? Or any other more exiting engine then the current diesel and hybrid option..
I remember years ago some manufacturers used to put felt on the underside of the front and back central consoles. Why would they let that unsightly plastic with their unsightly grooves exposed ? Reminds me of rear boots with uncovered metal omitting the felt lining.
VW latest models to be honest are very ugly overall, including even Golf 8. They start to look like Toyata's. And now Toyata seems to be improving a bit, which is ironic. Also, all these, climate controls with swiping, instead of clicking, seems so cheap and unsafe.
Always a pleasure to watch your reviews, and Leah does an excellent job filming! You didn't ask for it, but the "park uhr" is called a "disque de stationnement" (parking disk) in French 😉
Great review. The price for the Tiguan is a bit steep in Germany. More or less the same spec is around 60k euro /before discount/ where i live which makes the Tiguan a very good proposition. Both BMW x1 and MB GLA feel a lot smaller and when you add 4x4 their price goes well beyond that of the Tiguan. Also, even the basic Tiguan engine is 4 cyl which is much better than what the Stellantis group offers. So, in my book the VW Tiguan is still a great car.
I'm just wondering if I should get the DCC? I have it on my Golf R and use it a lot but don't know if it's worth the price in a Tiguan or is the normal suspension and chassis good enough and comparable to the comfort mode?
Thanks for the nice review! Keep up the good work. You should do an comperission with BMW X1 2024 vs VW Tiguan since the price from the VW Tiguan is around 70k
650 liters of trunk space seems weird to me, I have a Golf VII Variant with 600 liters et and it seems way more spacious than this one. And it's pretty irritating that the letters on the trunk are not correctly aligned, especially with this price tag...
Carmakers just can't get away from the piano black. I guess its meant to dazzle buyer on the showroom floor. But be warned, those covers don't take long before the get scratched and will look horrible.
I’m not clear on transmission. Is this Tiptronic? If so how do you shift should you want to downshift manually? It can’t be very easy with control on steering wheel as opposed to center console.
Ideal Tiguan would be previous model front face, new model everywhere else and especially previous model pricing. Current pricing for vehicles has gone insane.
Phev is a great option for UK company car driver ......the long elec range puts this in a low bracket only costing about £40 a month in company car tax @20% 👍👍
Hello, I take only short Trips I had a Passat b8 diesel 2.0 150 PS And i just orderd 1.5 150 PS tiguan Is it underpowered ? They did not have it with 150 PS for test drive
I need a little help before i buy my next car. Im between the BMW X1 2023 23d or the Tiguan R line 2024. If the price is the same, which one is a better buy? I like the new technology of Tiguan, the large screen and the new suspension technology. On the BMW i like the slightly more powerful engine and the design.
For 70k, I want to see the panoramic sunroof open an extra 4 inches, plus RGB footwell ambient lighting and premium GPS augmented reality in the heads-up display. If not, Mercedes would be a better choice for that price seriously.
Not sure why you are so shocked with the price, because here in South Africa, the cost of a Tiguan R is around €55 000. Of course, this is a lot of money, but it's not far off what we currently pay for cars here in South Africa. 🇿🇦 Bare in mind that this is the previous generation Tiguan. Imagine how much the new Tiguan will be when it arrives in South Africa.
This is the R line…not the R….R Lines are about ZAR 800k with extras..€40 to 45 k…still a lot for us…The R is the top model you speak of… So this is super expensive….the reason he is shocked…. The 2.0tdi is no longer in Tiguan in SA…only inAudi Q5 which is about €65k here….plus extras…. Interesting to see what the prices will be… we have current model…amazing car….. As a %of wallet, cars are becoming insane in SA…hence all the Chinese cars…
@RovexHD nope...they have factories all over....Mercedes And VW have factories in South Africa..and many other countries ..is all about tax breaks and globalisation...If memory serves, the Touateg/Q7/Cayenne /Urus factory is in Hungary..1st gen Amarok was built in Argentina...2nd gen in South Africa ( at Ford plant) ..C class Mercedes for USA are built in South Africa too... Each manufacturer ( depending on volumes) will have plants in places like China and North America...... This is a fascinating industry and once one realises which Nissan/Dacia/Renaults are the same car or which VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat/Porsche/Ford are the same car it becomes obvious.. Here in South Africa we pay insanely high prices ( relative to our eranings and currency )on cars due to huge import duties that protect the local industry.. a VW Touareg is now more than a 2 bedroom apartment in most of the country ..
JFC this car after conversion is 100k Canadian that is ludicrous, hopefully it's not that bad when they do bring it to North America and build it in mexico 😆
I'm sure it's a lot of work but Thomas has a pretty cool job: travelling with your girlfriend (fiancée) reviewing cars for a living! Also, it may just be the parasocial aspect of UA-cam but I find the way they interact quite adorable
*normal wheelbase, and in europe there was also a long wheelbase of the second gen Tiguan. but the us won't get the next gen Tiguan. it will be the next gen Tayron, which is based on the new Tiguan.
The US will not have this Gen3 Tiguan in its LWB form. However the upcoming Gen2 Tayron will be renamed as Tiguan in the US market. Note the Gen1 Tayron is a specified model for Chinese market, with wheel base between Gen2 Tiguan SWB and Gen2 Tiguan LWB.
Logic is as follows, it is complicated: Tiguan for EU (5-seater), built in Wolfsburg, Germany. Tayron for EU (7-seater), built in Wolfsburg. Tayron for China (5-seater), built in China. Tiguan for US (5-seater) is basically a modified Tayron without additional seats and built in Mexico. We are keeping u updated and will also present the US Tiguan as soon as possible.
Waiting for this in AUS and i bet it will be a fair bit cheaper here, because at euro70k /AU$110k , the r-line wouldn't sell here. AU$80k max. Current r-line 162tsi is about euro40k here. Incredible how VW's are always cheaper here, than in Germany.
Are AUS prices including VAT? Because in EU they are, in the US for example they're not, hence why they seem much cheaper. Though, to be fair, they're still cheaper in the US, even after adding tax, just not by that much 😅.
23:50 It's indeed tough pillow to swallow 😂 Joking aside, pricing is weird once again. During the pandemic there were literally 0 discounts, but now we are back to pre-pandemic discount mayhem. Quick example, few days ago I specced a M340 xdrive touring with lots of options, and since it is end of life etc, I got 28% discount of the configurator price. So list price can't be trusted, unless everyone starts doing it the Tesla way - the price is what you see in the configurator, no discounts. You may have a discount if you buy from available stock. But then again, humans like the feeling of "getting a deal", so manufacturers might be bumping the price, so they can offer discounts and actually sell the cars for the desired price that way.
How are the vented massage seats? You have to be fair regarding the price, this is an R line with all specs. With BMW X1 you don’t even get adjustable rear seats and forget about vented seats with real massage function in X1, X2, X3, X4. So in fact, you get what you pay for. If you don’t want all these specs you can get a Tiguan for €40,000 as well.
Great as always thomas! The Tiguan is way to expensive for what it is. You get a full packed Ford Kuga PHEV 2024 Model for 10k less and 20% pricedrop on top. VW is overrated imo.
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00:00 Tiguan R-Line
01:15 Length and suspension
02:01 Light design
02:52 Trunk / boot
04:02 Interior quality
04:55 Seats and comfort
06:12 Cockpit
08:35 Storage and roof
10:45 Rear seats
12:57 Tiger plus Iguana
13:24 Engines
14:08 Autobahn acceleration
17:38 DCC Pro suspension
20:54 Tiguan vs Passat
22:43 Towing and pricing
#VWTiguan #Volkswagen
Engine lineup
1.5 TSI 130 hp / 150 hp 9,1 s (both FWD)
2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD
2.0 TSI 265 hp AWD
1.5 TSI PHEV 204 hp 8,2 s / 272 hp 7,2 s (both FWD)
20 kWh net
2.0 TDI 150 hp FWD
2.0 TDI 193 hp AWD 7,7 s
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Hi Thomas! My wife is pregnant so I’m looking for a premium suv between 40-60K with really comfortable ride over bumps and good noise insolation for motorways. Last week I tried lexus NX but I was hugely disappointed with noise insolation at 120km/h…
Hi Thomas , any information about Tiguan R , 333 hp ? Thank You.
Hi, What about turning off the engine while driving ? What the Dealer said ? I have the same problem
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😊 Dison in the trunk just shows how Thomas is a REAL car guy!! Cleaning the car before filming is huge sing of respect for his viewers!!! 👏👏👏
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Engine lineup
1.5 TSI 130 hp / 150 hp 9,1 s (both FWD)
2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD
2.0 TSI 265 hp AWD
1.5 TSI PHEV 204 hp 8,2 s / 272 hp 7,2 s (both FWD)
20 kWh net
2.0 TDI 150 hp FWD
2.0 TDI 193 hp AWD 7,7 s
Only have the hybrids and 1,5 petrol e hybrids plus 1 x 2ltr tdi 150ps in the uk ... no awd or 2ltr petrols
Is it confirmed that the PHEV Tiguan will have 100+ km of range.
Wish the PHEV had AWD. Anyone know if that will be available later?
I'm failing to find the petrol 2.0 options even in the German configurator, so it seems like the only AWS option is the 2.0 Diesel, and that's it.
Without USB C for dashcam 😵💫 OMG
Thomas and Leah, I so enjoy your in depth reviews on new car’s. What I especially enjoy is when Thomas goes into great technical detailed analysis of the amazing technology and engineering of German car’s. In my opinion Germany makes the best cars in the world. I have been fortunate enough to have had 4 BMW’S cars over the years- superb cars- especially the 3 series. I have been on the autobahn at speed just INCREDIBLE! Anyway Excellent viewing guys.Thank you both.take care. 🇦🇺
The price is absolutely insane 🤯
70k€... WTF ?!?
For a mid diesel engine...
Tiguan was one of the best SUV out there in Europe, always a bit pricey ok but for a great combo Price/equipment/quality/power.
Now it's not anymore.
yep, more expensive than electric vehicles.
VW need to keep their shareholders happy somehow.
In Croatia, 1.5 eTSI Life Plus model with additional Winter package costs 37k. Just ordered one to replace my 6yrs old Kia Sportage.
No, starting price for the new Tiguan is 37,000€ for a 1.5 eTSI (gas) or 41,500€ for the 2.0 TDI (diesel). Starting price for the R-line 2.0 TDI SCR 4MOTION is 56,000€ and 58,000€ for the plug-in hybrid 1.5 eHybrid version. It's a bit less than 70,000€ for a fully speced R-line.
The problem is the trend thats going on right now. Something new is coming out, so it must be more expensive than the previous generation. You can see this trend everywhere: cars, hardware, electronics, even groceries, everything is getting more and more expensive, whilst the (build)quality is rapidly going down.
Wait one year and get the Jahreswagen. I got my 2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line for almost 40% less than the original price. It already has 36000km in it when I bought it but feels and drives like new.
Great review. You made me chuckle when you were talking about 'the colour gey was the most popular in Germany' and you're stood there in - gray trainers, grey pants and a gray top! 🤣👍
I prefer the older generation look. The older car looks more premium and has a presence. This design just screams cheap chinese EV
I thought exactly the same...
What exactly bothers you?
Chinese comment! Hahaha
@thore8978 it's lost that more square, stancey look. It's alot more rounded, much more like the peugeots and other brands SUV's. The last 1 looked distinctive compared the other, "less premium" brands.
@@Stimm002I still would take this much better aerodynamic and have that more manly shape just on my fridge
I’ve had my new Tiguan R Line for two weeks now. With the York 20inch alloys, keyless entry and power boot in dolphin grey.
I absolutely love it! Interior quality is far better than the old shape, drives like a dream! Don’t understand all the hating comments honestly Vw have upped their game with the build quality (they needed too as they’ve been on a downward spiral over the years!)
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video as always. I was surprised how quiet the cabin is while driving on the Autobahn especially with the TDI engine. 70,000 euros equals $76,000 US! That's amazing.
Great review as always Thomas! I love the information and the detail. Leah is an excellent assistant too, she’s the new 0-100kmh measuring standard! 😂
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Starting R line with a basic diesel engine is around 50 000. You add 4 wheel drive, stronger engine, retractable roof, towing hook, optional Colour, optional 20 inch wheels, IQ light, Hamam Kardon sound system and yes, you can end up in a 70 000€ region 😊
This is just madness.. Tiguan for 70k, Yaris Cross for 35k... Probably my next car will be bike
You don't need to put everything in the car when buying new, thankfully they give you plenty of choices so the prices vary.
Tiguan for 35.200€ is what we bought and couldn't be happier with how much stuff it comes with, very few cars in this class come near this unless they have a 1.2 three-cylinder garbage in them.
Thanks for new video Thomas! I much prefer the prev generation, it looks more aggresive and blocky. I like the gave back real buttons on the steering wheel, now just to change back the AC controls. Also, the centre armrest looks so tacky for the price point. I don't understand how you can pay so much for a vehicle and it looks so bad. It doesn't even look like a premium vehicle.
Rear AC control unit looks like installed into a cheap aliexpress middle console. The doors look cheap and nasty. My gf drives the previus gen 2.0Tsi and it looks way more premium than this!
Urinal gray 🥳👍
I was wondering if anyone else heard that.
I came straight to comments when he said the color...
Seriously, they made the Tiguan a bulkier ID3 asking for 70 thousand euros. I'm sure I can afford a base Porsche with this money. Great review though
No the Porsche and all cars are becoming more expensive, in relative relationship it stays the same. The higher prices are due to CO2 policies & regulations, inflation and the fact that more and more features are becoming standard. Like with this new Tiguan it only comes with DCC (automatic gearing). That is a quite new development for Europe
@@mlohr1 I didn't doubt them becoming 'more' expensive. I pointed out that buying the specific one will require a fortune to do so. I'm European and I'm aware of what they do. In my country, the 911 range starts from €100.000, where as the average house price locally is around €280.000, which pretty much sums up what I wanted to point out
@@mlohr1 apart from the fact that most people don't need the DCC crap, unless they're some fancy "Fans" princess that wants to keep their bottom round when coming back to mom and dad on a very poor rural road.
Many "optional" things that are included in the new cars are just useless, but make the car more expensive.
Hi Thomas
Thanks for another awesome review - love the way you do them!!
However - just one statistic that you never mentioned - the distance from the back of the driver/front passenger seat to the lip of the tailgate please?
You only gave us the 90cm measurement from the back of the rear seats to the tailgate I believe.
Thanks in advance if you can tell us that
All the best
Mark
Cheers! Oh we actually always do that, probably one rare case where we didnt
70k€ ?? Insane. 😢
A highly predicable lament for every car in every review regardless of type and class.
The equivalent of 70K Euros in Canada will get you a 2024 X3 M Competition. Why are prices insane everywhere!?
Inflation. And yes, it is everywhere. Not just cars.
Loaded SQ5 here in America.
@@burddog0792 crazy right!
At 10:30 of the video Tomas mention a Tiguan not recognizing the key and applying brakes on the highway. Thank you Tomas that you have real reviews. My brand new Tiguan 1.5 Tsi 150 Hp, some times did not turn on with warning: Low 12 V Battery Voltage, and another electronic problem that i had: some safety systems like lane assist, ACC, Side Assist turned to yellow after having 2000 km. All above fixed with VW software upgrade from the local dealer, but i had to wait for weeks until the software released.I am scary to hear about the key recognition problem and braking problem on the highway,at least never happened to me. Other on that the car is very quiet with high insulation, has nice material quality, and has fantastic space for its 454 cm length and good driving ride. Also my average consumption is 6.4lt/100 km.
Thanks for the feedback!
I definitely love that new little/midsize Crossover/SUV, Home-Run VW, just what you needed!
What did you say? 70k? No way! Excuse me guys, but what kind of price is that? For what?
That's normal, all prices have gone up and this is the most expensive version of the car, the car has everything built in that the series offers, this car can keep up with any Audi, Mercedes or Bmw. that's okay.
@@thore8978 This is NORMAL? Are you for real? Lol.
@@simonrajh show me a cheaper car with all this functions and such an engine.
@@thore8978 i guess there are always customers that will pay whatever companies want 🤣
Even Thomas was surprised over 70k... but u r behaving like its normal price lol.
@@simonrajh okay look; I have just configured the Peugot 3008, which now costs 59k euros with every option picked, but this is not a sports version (because there is none) without a glass roof, without an electric tailgate, without a cool wireless charging function etc. etc. The base model of the Tiguan is of course also significantly cheaper, the point is that everything is installed in the model shown.
Two things. It looks ok but lacks VW DNA in the design. It looks much like 2014 Mitsubishi Outlander. Another thing is this enormous screen. It gets ridicules! Hope new NCAP regulations will bring buttons and dials (so much more ergonomic) and reduce slightly screen sizes. I think (my opinion only) something between 10 and 12 inches is the sweet spot.
Presentation as always on the highest level. 👍
The standard screen in the new Tiguan is 12,9 inch, which I also ordered. For most people the 15 inch is ridiculous
2014 Mitsubishi outlander? Get some glasses mate lmao
@@TheEchelon Look at the pictures and compare. Mate. They are not identical twins but...
If you have the opportunity, please make a quick review of the Tiguan with 2.0 tsi 265hp 👀
I enjoyed that, especially back to back with the Renault Rafale review.
Both Tiguan and Rafale as reviewed have some kind of adaptive suspension. The Rafale also had the AW Steering. From memory the Rafale as reviewed cost somewhere between €50k and €60k, whereas this Tiguan costs €75k and is not even an EV with all that battery cost. I suspect I would hate the Rafale suspension which will be too Gallic for me, but the AW steering is quite a stunner at the price. We can quibble about the relative merits of each car’s looks, interiors, and UI/UX but I think VW needs to look quite hard at the Rafale.
What about turning off the engine while driving ? What the Dealer said ? I have the same problem.
For anyone wondering. It is straight from Germany and bought there. My dad has one fully spec for 57K euros.
1:25 Why do you test the updated DCC pro adaptive suspension on the highway and not on bad roads or streets with cobblestones ?
In the end, is the DCC Pro worth it?
What about the rattling reports regarding the DCC Pro, did you noticed anything?
7:40 Nobody mentions that the sliders can also be tapped to change the temperature precisely.
It doesn't matter.
The older body design looked better. This looks like a Suzuki.
No way - stop smoking...
Good news, its still for sale, and cheaper.
Hi Thomas, do you have any information back from VW about the "Key not in the car" issue? I saw report from one Tiguan's owner about the situation happened to him and I am a bit afraid of that. It looks like his car suddenly lost the power and the break become stiffer. I do not know how many units are affected but it looks very serious.
kia implementation for all smart and digital features is way better than most of European companies, just drove the kia Sorento and wow what a car for 2024 model
Thank you so much for your presentation, is highly appreciated especially that you take a critical approach in reviewing cars. Please let me know your opinion on what will be your pick between VW Tiguan and Renault Rafale. Please comment also on the insulation of the two cars and smoothness of the engine. thank you so much.
Cheers! Engine and Insulation is surely better with the Tiguan, if you want to pay the extra price. Rafale is consistently animal free in the interior what is very important to me
TIGUAN. BEST CAR
on the tail lights, what effect...?
I'm getting my new Tiguan R-line Tdi tomorrow. This review got me more hyped!
Model Y is way way better fammily option
Better price
Bigger car
Better performance
More standard features
Better Tech
Ah, yes, this is why Model Y was No1 sales in 2023 in Europe, vw's home, and in entire world
@@stefanconstantinescu1576 do you have any friends?😊
@@stefanconstantinescu1576Maybe better for you, for others it might not be.
@@iron_b0olt better for most Europe's buyers at least ( VAG' homeland - useless to say I previous had 2 Passats. But now VW are way way too expensive)
Really sharp. The trailer ball is a great idea.
How is sound quality with Harman/Kardon option?
Hi do you know if theres any Tiguan R with 300+ hp coming? Or any Tiguan GTS that had 245 hp diesel...or perhaps a version with the Golf GTI engine? Or any other more exiting engine then the current diesel and hybrid option..
That wont come afaik
Haha, I saw what you did there on the thumbnail. I'm a Kraftwerk fan too .
I remember years ago some manufacturers used to put felt on the underside of the front and back central consoles. Why would they let that unsightly plastic with their unsightly grooves exposed ? Reminds me of rear boots with uncovered metal omitting the felt lining.
VW latest models to be honest are very ugly overall, including even Golf 8. They start to look like Toyata's. And now Toyata seems to be improving a bit, which is ironic.
Also, all these, climate controls with swiping, instead of clicking, seems so cheap and unsafe.
Always a pleasure to watch your reviews, and Leah does an excellent job filming! You didn't ask for it, but the "park uhr" is called a "disque de stationnement" (parking disk) in French 😉
Great review. The price for the Tiguan is a bit steep in Germany. More or less the same spec is around 60k euro /before discount/ where i live which makes the Tiguan a very good proposition. Both BMW x1 and MB GLA feel a lot smaller and when you add 4x4 their price goes well beyond that of the Tiguan. Also, even the basic Tiguan engine is 4 cyl which is much better than what the Stellantis group offers. So, in my book the VW Tiguan is still a great car.
Thanks 🙏
I'm just wondering if I should get the DCC?
I have it on my Golf R and use it a lot but don't know if it's worth the price in a Tiguan or is the normal suspension and chassis good enough and comparable to the comfort mode?
i would yeah
Are you going to do a review of the updated Skoda Enyaq at some point Thomas? 😊
Car prices are ridiculous now ☹️, great review though again
I looking to expect 10 year financing any day now. Otherwise, no one will be able to afford them except the rich.
Leasing is the best option.
@@krane15 I don’t think they want us owning cars everything is going pay monthly 😕
@@RovexHD even monthly payments are getting crazy though for even small cars
That price is absolutely insane. A fully loaded SQ5 would be less money here in America.
2:41 Surprised you didn't point out that misaligned badge.
At least 20% of the price in Europe is sales tax. That's why it's more expensive there.
@@AWMJoeyjoejoe Ok so only $60k USD, what a deal. You'll have to get a base model SQ5.
What shoes are you wearing?
Thanks for the nice review! Keep up the good work.
You should do an comperission with BMW X1 2024 vs VW Tiguan since the price from the VW Tiguan is around 70k
Thanks! Yeah we could do that
Im sure this new design will give Skoda sales a good boost.
650 liters of trunk space seems weird to me, I have a Golf VII Variant with 600 liters et and it seems way more spacious than this one. And it's pretty irritating that the letters on the trunk are not correctly aligned, especially with this price tag...
is the sunroof opens ?
yes
I hate the big slab of black plastic that dominates the dashboard. Looks very cheap.
Carmakers just can't get away from the piano black. I guess its meant to dazzle buyer on the showroom floor. But be warned, those covers don't take long before the get scratched and will look horrible.
@@krane15
They could use varnished wood instead. It’s just a cheap option.
@@krane15 It doesn't even look good when it's new with no scratches, dust, and fingerprints.
How does this compare to x1?
Are Vw over pricing their ice cars to compensate for the losses on their electric cars ?
I’m not clear on transmission. Is this Tiptronic? If so how do you shift should you want to downshift manually? It can’t be very easy with control on steering wheel as opposed to center console.
Manuals are dead and they're not coming back. Maybe you mean paddles which are gimmicks.
DSG you can manually shift with the paddles on the steering wheel
Thank you.
who spent 70k for a tiguan should have a brain check😂
Welcome to 2024 bud, that’s just how new car prices are.
It’s not even a Tiguan R. The price is outrageous specially VW supposedly should be cheaper in EU
Im here for the lady🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ideal Tiguan would be previous model front face, new model everywhere else and especially previous model pricing. Current pricing for vehicles has gone insane.
Phev is a great option for UK company car driver ......the long elec range puts this in a low bracket only costing about £40 a month in company car tax @20% 👍👍
I suppose is is going to be a good car. But, the design? And about pricing... no comment :-D
AMAZING CAR
Hello,
I take only short Trips
I had a Passat b8 diesel 2.0 150 PS
And i just orderd 1.5 150 PS tiguan
Is it underpowered ?
They did not have it with 150 PS for test drive
well the acceleration figures of the two different 150 hp engines are pretty similar
I need a little help before i buy my next car. Im between the BMW X1 2023 23d or the Tiguan R line 2024. If the price is the same, which one is a better buy? I like the new technology of Tiguan, the large screen and the new suspension technology. On the BMW i like the slightly more powerful engine and the design.
hey! check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/P4BOtJ1zC5E/v-deo.html
@@autogefuehl i have already watched that video but i saw no mention of Tiguan.
Considering current reliability and software status, i d tend to the X1
For 70k, I want to see the panoramic sunroof open an extra 4 inches, plus RGB footwell ambient lighting and premium GPS augmented reality in the heads-up display. If not, Mercedes would be a better choice for that price seriously.
I get the key missing thing on my ten year old GTi (thankfully not while driving)- so weird! Sort it out VW!
The have a warehouse with 10 years worth of parts. You expect them to throw that away?
70k its simply madness
Not sure why you are so shocked with the price, because here in South Africa, the cost of a Tiguan R is around €55 000. Of course, this is a lot of money, but it's not far off what we currently pay for cars here in South Africa. 🇿🇦 Bare in mind that this is the previous generation Tiguan. Imagine how much the new Tiguan will be when it arrives in South Africa.
This is the R line…not the R….R Lines are about ZAR 800k with extras..€40 to 45 k…still a lot for us…The R is the top model you speak of…
So this is super expensive….the reason he is shocked….
The 2.0tdi is no longer in Tiguan in SA…only inAudi Q5 which is about €65k here….plus extras….
Interesting to see what the prices will be… we have current model…amazing car…..
As a %of wallet, cars are becoming insane in SA…hence all the Chinese cars…
Do all German cars come from Europe, or are they built elsewhere.
@RovexHD nope...they have factories all over....Mercedes
And VW have factories in South Africa..and many other countries ..is all about tax breaks and globalisation...If memory serves, the Touateg/Q7/Cayenne /Urus factory is in Hungary..1st gen Amarok was built in Argentina...2nd gen in South Africa ( at Ford plant) ..C class Mercedes for USA are built in South Africa too...
Each manufacturer ( depending on volumes) will have plants in places like China and North America......
This is a fascinating industry and once one realises which Nissan/Dacia/Renaults are the same car or which VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat/Porsche/Ford are the same car it becomes obvious..
Here in South Africa we pay insanely high prices ( relative to our eranings and currency )on cars due to huge import duties that protect the local industry.. a VW Touareg is now more than a 2 bedroom apartment in most of the country ..
@@RovexHD There’s a major VW factory here in South Africa building some right hand drive models.
Toller inhalt, mein freund-DANKE
could you give us some lines on the PHEV version 1.5TSI, 272?
Could you review Harman Kardon audio system?
Does it make sense for 900€ comparing with standard one?
Which gray is it again, Thomas? 0:19 🙄
Urano gray
Urinal
I heard urinal grey and right now, where are these grey urinals VW have copied haha
JFC this car after conversion is 100k Canadian that is ludicrous, hopefully it's not that bad when they do bring it to North America and build it in mexico 😆
We don't get the higher model in Canada. It currently tops of at 48k for the r-line.
70K 😳 no way, not for me!
Maybe Mazda CX-60.
the engine in the title would be nice instead of the equipment line but great video as always😊
The what grey?!
I'm sure it's a lot of work but Thomas has a pretty cool job: travelling with your girlfriend (fiancée) reviewing cars for a living! Also, it may just be the parasocial aspect of UA-cam but I find the way they interact quite adorable
Is this what they sell as the Taos or Tiguan in North America?
No, Taos is this: ua-cam.com/video/m6DOGIeZ7T0/v-deo.html
new US Tiguan will be shown very soon.
I assume this is the European short wheelbase version? The US got a longer wheelbase before. Will that be the same with this newer model?
The Tiguan All space Version longer wheelbase will be a new car, the VW Tayron. Is coming next year I Think.
*normal wheelbase, and in europe there was also a long wheelbase of the second gen Tiguan. but the us won't get the next gen Tiguan. it will be the next gen Tayron, which is based on the new Tiguan.
The US will not have this Gen3 Tiguan in its LWB form. However the upcoming Gen2 Tayron will be renamed as Tiguan in the US market. Note the Gen1 Tayron is a specified model for Chinese market, with wheel base between Gen2 Tiguan SWB and Gen2 Tiguan LWB.
Logic is as follows, it is complicated:
Tiguan for EU (5-seater), built in Wolfsburg, Germany.
Tayron for EU (7-seater), built in Wolfsburg.
Tayron for China (5-seater), built in China.
Tiguan for US (5-seater) is basically a modified Tayron without additional seats and built in Mexico.
We are keeping u updated and will also present the US Tiguan as soon as possible.
€70000 is a joke
Waiting for this in AUS and i bet it will be a fair bit cheaper here, because at euro70k /AU$110k , the r-line wouldn't sell here. AU$80k max. Current r-line 162tsi is about euro40k here. Incredible how VW's are always cheaper here, than in Germany.
Are AUS prices including VAT? Because in EU they are, in the US for example they're not, hence why they seem much cheaper. Though, to be fair, they're still cheaper in the US, even after adding tax, just not by that much 😅.
23:50 It's indeed tough pillow to swallow 😂 Joking aside, pricing is weird once again. During the pandemic there were literally 0 discounts, but now we are back to pre-pandemic discount mayhem.
Quick example, few days ago I specced a M340 xdrive touring with lots of options, and since it is end of life etc, I got 28% discount of the configurator price. So list price can't be trusted, unless everyone starts doing it the Tesla way - the price is what you see in the configurator, no discounts. You may have a discount if you buy from available stock.
But then again, humans like the feeling of "getting a deal", so manufacturers might be bumping the price, so they can offer discounts and actually sell the cars for the desired price that way.
On the other hand, these insane list prices will likely discourage a lot of people from even visiting a dealership in the first place...
Where is USB C for dashcam ??
Thomas, enjoyed watching your video, great review. Grüß von Charlotte, NC!
This one or a BMW X1?
My golf 8 2024 also complains about key not being in the car… while driving or standing 🥲
Absolutely lovely
How are the vented massage seats?
You have to be fair regarding the price, this is an R line with all specs. With BMW X1 you don’t even get adjustable rear seats and forget about vented seats with real massage function in X1, X2, X3, X4. So in fact, you get what you pay for. If you don’t want all these specs you can get a Tiguan for €40,000 as well.
People don't get that or don't want to acknowledge it.
People want a tiguan for the price of a VW Up!
I want buttons, NOT touch!
I think I’ll go into the felt covering business. 😊 Great review, thank you.
👍😁
Great as always thomas! The Tiguan is way to expensive for what it is. You get a full packed Ford Kuga PHEV 2024 Model for 10k less and 20% pricedrop on top. VW is overrated imo.
Its not overrated. You get what's expected. It is overpriced, however. But someone says that about every car in ever car review.
Thomas, would you pay 70k euro for this car? Yes or no.
It looks so Chinese such a disappointment
When you look at the ugly stuff from BMW and others, the Chinese are now trend setters.😂
VW is a Chinese car brand at this point ig
9:08 Parking disc
Doesn't the R Line have massaging seats as standard?
At this level.
German car with a Chinese design
The Chines is the world's fastest growing car market. Can you blame them?
@@krane15
I can't it's just my impression about the design of the car It looks like they are targeting the Chinese market mostly
Last model much better looking
Thomas - bring back our drinking Game, with the car length lol
Climate control knob and/or buttons should be compulsory. It's downright dangerous to have to stare at a screen to demist the windscreen. 😮