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I mean, getting 300+ million during the Pandemic and the fact that some countries didn't allow it due to being homophobic, Eternals did pretty good in the box office.
Exactly, perfect analysis. The issue with the Eternals is that even without their unique skillsets they all exhibit a high level of strength and durability, even the non combat oriented Eternals are casually walking off being slammed through buildings, slammed into boulders, hit with Ikaris's eye beams. So even Makkari a speedster, Druig a telepath, Sprite an illusionist, Ajak a healer, Phastos a technopath and Sersi their mage, all support type characters are also superhumanly strong and durable. So no real weak points.
the only way for the avengers is if they already know about their opponents. Strange could take the avengers to another dimesion, perhaps the mirror dimension, and the Eternals can't do anything. There, assuming strange can, he would give everyone protection spells like supreme strange did in what if episode 9. That spell seemed really powerful, tanking all 6 infinity stones, so no one would need any tech suits as their durability would be crazy, and it isn't too bold to assume that also protects from mind attacks, as Ultron didn't use the mind stone at any moment when he could just win using it.
and if it doesn't protect from mind attacks there is definitely one for that considering there are thousands of spells and mind attacks aren't rare among sorcerers.
@@pinkturnipo2986 it don’t mater they have scarlet witch she can just put them in a pocket dimension so they forget how to use there powers or just forget they have powers completely
While I agree that the Avengers have little chance of winning against the Eternals, I think it needs to be pointed out that Sprite and Druid are basically rendered useless by the presence of Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange, both of whom can easily cancel out illusions and mind control. It's the speedster Makkari that they Avengers should be worried about because she can easily take out their sorcerers.
You are forgetting that Eternals even without their unique skillsets, they all exhibit a high level of strength and durability, even the non combat oriented Eternals are casually walking off being slammed through buildings. Sprite and druid being useless still being stronger , hawkeye, black widow, spiderman, blackpanther, captain america, warmachine, falcon and so on.
@@matthiasjilimin700 yeah for the most part Eternals win but with how much Stronger Thors been getting lately I could see him handling a couple of them solo. He really is a god. The combo of him, Doctor Strange, and Scarlett Witch isn’t getting enough credit.
So you're saying, Stormbreaker is more powerful than a Celestial? She even turned a living thing (Deviant) into an inanimate object which she thought was impossible
Regardless. The Avengers low diff eternals. Thor > Ikaris, Hulk > Gilgamesh, Wanda > Thena, Stark > Phastos, Captain Marvel solos the rest of these fodders
@@KeyIssues I agree, druig is a massive issue, so is mekkari. Sprite is gonna make the eternals look like avengers and vice versa to every other than capt marvel, Thor and Wanda and they r gonna destroy their own team. Also stark beating phastos is actually laughable. Sersi could turn the ground beneath the hulk into water and then reform it into vibranium.
Icarus gave me Omni-Man vibes with his whole Wanting to fulfill his mission but ultimately going against it because of him growing fond of Earth and being convinced by the one’s close to him arc
Technically, the Avengers would be fighting a group of entities who are of the same race of creatures as Thanos, who as a singular entity required all of their combined efforts to beat. This already puts them at a great disadvantage. Gilgamesh, Thena, and Ikarus may have corresponding foils in Hulk, Marvel, and Thor, but there is no correspondence to Makkari who as a speedster owns everyone but these 3 heavy hitters. Druig and Sersi has some correspondence with Wanda between mind control and matter transmuter, but post Wanda Vision she is going to be far more powerful than either of them. Sprite with all her mental baggage is no match for a driven, focused and imaginatively creative Dr. Strange. The key players among the Avengers in this fight really would be their causality warper Dr. Strange and now fully amped reality warper Wanda. DS can negate every consequential result of their failure by resetting the fight until they arrive at the variant in which they are the winners. But it shouldn't even have to come to that if the nature of Wanda's reality warping is infinitely powerful since she herself should be able to negate every advantage the Eternals would otherwise have. It's why I will say that it comes down to a knowledge of the threat of the Eternals that informs either or both Strange and/or Wanda. Cuz otherwise, Makkari gets them first, and the Hulk is out because of Druig's mind control, and Thor and Marvel will just be overwhelmed.
you cant just ignore the power of the scarlet witch, and doctor strange's powerful spells and defensive spells. Scarlet witch spells is a direct power from the God chaton(dont know if its the right spelling but who cares) we see wanda not having a scarlet witch yet can end up killing thanos all by herself and by the help of the powerboost of the scarlet witch I think she can just tear apart limp from limp, and if thats not enough doctor strange can just trap all them in the mirror dimension and the other can just throw bombs at the eternals hit them with lightning and shit, it would be a hell of a teamfight, but not only that the avengers has more better team tactics than the eternals, where as the eternals others can cooperate just like that, and plus doctor strange can just inspire some other kinds of tech to tony or tony can detect phastos technology and can create a God killer suit which in the comics is specifically designed to kill a celestial, so I think the avengers has a huge power boost when the scarlet which is around them hence I dont even think makari can do shit about that cause scarlet witch can just telephaticly kill her just like we are about to see when wanda was about to tear of thanos apart
Being the same species doesn't mean much. Scarlett witch and Doctor Strange are the same species as Black widow but their Power levels couldn't be further.
@@toyosioyejobi309 exactly Thanos is an eternal with a deviant gene and that probably make him stronger than the other eternals. Wanda was able to hold Thanos off who had 5 infinity and she even managed to destroy one at the same time before Thanos undid it
It would also be extremely difficult to take Druig out. He goes in melee with a deviant showing some level of combat skill, and he takes both the lasers and physical strikes from ikarus as well as a massive fall relatively unscathed. His durability is off the charts for a character whose main skill is telepathy. You'd need a big gun just to take him out, and he could quickly be hidden behind traps and illusions. Phastos can restrain ikarus, both of whom along with gilgamesh, thena, and makkari are so powerful they give the power housrs a run for their money. Ajack can heal any hurt allies, and since she is able to tank attacks from bloodlusted thena and heal herself, as well as partially heal thena's madness, it's safe to say she can also prevent her own teammates from being mind haxed. Sprite also engages in physical combat, none of the eternals are going to be easy to take down, and with so much experience and skill as a team the avengers stand no chance
Druig was knocked out almost throughout the whole third act just because of the lasers from ikaris. I don’t see why captain marvel wouldn’t be able to knock him out with her blasts. Ant man and wasp can easily sneak behind enemy lines and attack the supports (sprite, ajak, sersi). Finally wanda easily just manipulates reality, turning them into sitcom characters unable to use their powers and attack.
@@maxpotential-4074 they were nerf more, stop acting like a smart ass, they didn't nerf Wanda as much as they nerfed sersi, nerfing is relative but eternals were super nerfed
They definitely can. The issue is the hack abilities of Phastos, Sersi, Sprite, Ajax, and Druig. The Avengers can definitely punch with the Eternals. The hacks cause a huge issue though.
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 without hack abilities, the avengers win. Strange, Wanda and vision easily negate every hack ability that the eternals have, end of argument
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 From what I've seen, outside of Ikarus's high end feats I'm not impressed by the Eternal's physicals. They struggle way too damn much with the Deviants whereas Thor and Hulk would go through those beasts like hot knives through butter. Gilgamesh putting that much effort to knock a giant Deviant back a few feat
Eternals have kills celestials avengers would not be able to 😂🤦🏻♂️. Yes I know strange and Wanda but even tho Wanda is one of thee strongest. She is nowhere close to the externals.
@@amazeseries9624 True. Gotta admit Thanos was augmented by the gems. But still Eternals have: High level of invunerability Superstrong Fly Matter manipulation ( Blast objects Telepathy with psychic attacks Telekinisis Superspeed teleportation. Bro this is a who team of people with this power. And they are like million years old and have experience fighting other cosmic beings. Oh. Don't forget they can summon the unimind which Seems to be a being that has the best versions of all those powers from each eternal. Strange ( sigh...😔 kinda like Batman😔) is hexy type character with many tricks so writers often are able to give him maneuver that can save and even win at times.. but the average everyday strange with cape and standard gear would have his hands full never mind an entire team
@@richardlegrand4697 maybe not strange, even though he is more powerful then them and has morer abilities and ways to win, but wanda 100 percent beats them by herself, the rest, are overkill
If it's a suprise attack the eternals win no contest, but if they know what's up beforehand, strange can freeze time, which is something I cant see anyone preventing on the eternals team, the mirror dimension is something stated to be almost impossible to get out of without a sling ring, and remember who said that? An expert magician. Wanda is incredibly op as well, but time stop is such an unbelievably op ability that nothing comes close. But if strange gets blindsided or taken out, I think eternals win without much effort
Strange doesn't have the time stone...there is also the speed gap; makkari is too much faster than all the other Avengers, they won't have enough time to react
I disagree with your analysis. After watching the movie, aside from some hax ability members like Makkari, Druig, and Phastos, most of the Eternals were a bit underwhelming, especially the fighters like Ikaris, Thena, and Gilgamesh. Even the so-called strongest member, Ikaris, never even showed the kind of powers that can be comparable to any version of Thor. When fighting, he mainly used his eye beam and it took him a long while to beat a single deviant. So maybe the deviants are just that strong, but if that's the case, their fight should have done much more damages to the environment. Based on what I have seen, Ikarus, never showed muscle strength greater than Spiderman, eye beam no more powerful than Cyclops, with unknown speed and high, but unknown durability. Also, so far, Druig only showed the capability to mind-controlled regular humans. He did not try to mind control a deviant or his fellow Eternals in the fights, so it's a stretch to say that he can mind-control most of the Avengers, including the super-powered ones.
Anyone with baseline human durability immediately dies to Makkari. Including strange and Wanda. In Age of Ultron, nobody could react to Quicksilver, and Makkari is faster. Druig literally mind controls everyone but maybe Thor,Hulk, and Vision. So then it’s literally all the eternals vs them 3. Sersi can manipulate a celestials matter, so she can literally just erase vision if he isn’t intangible. Thor couldn’t take a “taser” (wasn’t just a taser) so I’m pretty sure Phastos can create something on the spot that neutralizes Thor. The rest of the eternals are just too much for the hulk.
@@kdsniperr6270 Lets be realistic, it's not like the Eternals will come into the battle with a battle plan and have Makkari neutralize all the non-superhuman durability characters first. She'll likely randomly target members and when she gets to one with superhuman durability and strength, she'll get taken out, like what happened against Ikaris. Also, lets not act like this is a turn based video game where the Eternals get to attack first, everything is fluid, so with the exception of Makkari, no one else is attacking first and most Eternals definitely won't get to choose when they get to fight. As for Thor getting tasered, that was in Thor 3, he later got stronger and even tanked the sun's energy blast, so don't be so sure it will work on him again, and even if it does, it's part of an advance alien technology, has Phastos ever showed the capability of making these kinds of weaponry? He's isn't some kind of know it all tech wiz, there is a limit, otherwise, he would have access to the Kang level time manipulation technology and more. As for the Hulk, at least he has shown the kind of destructive capability that far surpasses anything that the Eternals have done.
@@mannyk1986 you don’t understand how fast Makkari is. Like I said, look at the Quicksilver scene vs the avengers. They’re weren’t moving! Now imagine someone who is A LOT faster. They’d be statues. If she gets to a superhuman and can’t kill him, she’ll just move on to the next one. Also, Phastos tech abilities are descended straight from celestials, they surpass alien tech by a lot.
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 Forget about comparing to superman, in terms of muscle strength, Ikaris hasn't even shown the strength to match up to wonder woman or aquaman.
@@EternalPayne either you’re admitting that Wanda has faster reaction speed within the hex, which doesn’t really dispute anything, or Wanda cannot create things faster than she is, which is patently false. Either way, she has a method of reacting to something faster than she is, so the idea of her being speed blitzed by Makkari is kind of iffy
I would love to see a WHAT IF like this, like a 3 part episode. How about the Avengers get some prep time to know who there dealing with, give ALL the avengers vibranium + and some other stuff : ) good vid.
The main problem I have is that Ikaris is said to be by far the strongest Eternal in combat, and he didn’t seem like he could take Doctor Strange, Wanda, or even Awakened Thor in a 1v1 which makes me think that the rest of the Eternals might just have cool powers on paper, but not actually be good at using them effectively in combat. In terms of Makkari, I think it’s a bit ridiculous to say that she would instantly take out all the Avengers, while not also saying the same about Captain Marvel taking out all the Eternals quickly. While it does seem like speed would be super useful, it never seems to be a big factor in the MCU in combat, so I think saying that Wanda and doctor strange would instantly die is pretty disingenuous unless you are also saying the same about the majority of the Eternals dying instantly to Captain Marvel.
Right if the difference in power is big enough for ikaris to 1 v 7 them and a couple avengers scale to ikaris how is it even a contest? Ikaris is literally just vision with less abilities and more screen time and in the endgame era vision is like a b tier avenger. Their strongest eternal is a equivalent to a b tier avenger
I see Ikaris beating them all ? If you map out the actual feats he has in the movie he has the highest feats of any brawler in the MCU. The Avengers got solo’d by Thanos who only has super strength in the MCU so the idea that struggling against one person makes a team less impressive is a pretty weak argument.
@@ooolong6551 Dr Strange beat Thanos in a 1v1 when Thanos has all the stones except space, and strange wasn’t even using the space stone. Wanda 1v1d Thanos when he had all the stones. Similarly, Thor also could’ve lethally killed him in a 1v1, but that one was much more in question because it was a surprise attack.
@@fidd1688 Have any of them withstood the heat of the sun ? Do any of them have energy projections capable of completely severing and destroying deviant anatomy? Do they have his reaction speed or battle sense ? Can they fly and maneuver at the speeds he can ? Tank sonic booms? Withstand a cosmic trap created specifically to trap them and drain their energy ? I’m not saying they couldn’t figure something out but they’d definitely have to jump him, to me he’s clearly more powerful than each of them individually.
@@ooolong6551 Thor took on a star when creating Stormbreaker, Scarlet Witch probably could have the same amount of energy blasts, and in terms of speed, it's never proven to be a big factor in MCU fights, so hard to tell on that one, but Captain Marvel is supposed to be extremely fast.
@@jmb371 absolutely incorrect,bunch of Mcu characters will beat the snot from Dceu Supes. Dceu Supes won't do squat to guys like Odin,Dormammu,the Celestials etc.
Strange and Wanda are very powerful and can seriously take on the Eternals, however, they are still human and considered to be glass canon. Don't forget that the Eternals know about the Avengers and possibly what they can do. So they'd be more prepared to take them on. As he said, Makkari can simply go in and knock out Strange and Wanda before they can react. I mean, we see several times how Strange and Wanda can be knocked out or chocked out. Plus, everyone of the Eternals has durable body. The only reason Kro managed to kill Ajax and Gilgamesh is because he evolved a special tentacle to absorbed their cosmic energy. So maybe if Iron can make a tech like that, they can stand a chance but, as he said, Phastos is a technopath and has more options to choose from. Druig and Sprite can make sure the Avengers are essential fighting each other too.
Even though they are human Wanda is more powerful than them as Strange with all his abilities and knowledge can stop Makkari before he thinks about using his speed and Strange can see every possible outcome of the fight before it even begins and Tony doesn’t need to create anything to be able to kill them as Thor already has stormbreaker
I agree with the video but I will say this: -From what I remember of the Eternals, Phastos needs to first come up with an idea, then design it and lastly creates it like the Unimind, that means in an unexpected battle he can be less effective cause he doesn't know what he is dealing with and has to think it during the battle. I guess in this case the Eternals know the Avengers well so it isn't a problem but in other cases I guess Phastos needs to stay behind while creating things and if someone stops him theres no much he can do. -Sprite, were her ilusions solid at some point? Because if not despite being able to create an infinite amount, Mysterio's drones are kinda better cause they deal damage. At least from a 1vs1 perspective, with the team Sprite's ilusions work better
I seriously think people are just under estimating the Avengers. A lot of them are very clever and they basically have unlimited money and lot of technology to help them also. Wanda also has illusion powers. Thor can fight them normally as he’s probably the only one who has the physical strength to do so and Thor could also kill them with Stormbreaker as that’s what it was basically created for a Thanos killing kind and since Thanos is an eternal and it killed him it could kill the rest
@@mohammedismail147 While what you are saying is true, you also have to take into account context. Yes, Thor killed Thanos with Stormbreaker, and injured him with it, but he was already very physically damaged in the former, and caught by surprise in the latter, I'd give him a 50/50 shot at beating Gilgamesh, but almost none against Ikarus. And yeah, honestly, it really all comes down to Dr. Strange and Wanda, can they defend against Druig and Sprite, and if so, can Makkari take them out quicker than they can react? If so, the Avengers have a hell of a bigger chance, but if not, it's game over.
@@jamesgarretson2922 Wanda and doctor strange could definitely defend the avengers against illusions and mind control, wanda could probably even take both druig and sprite out. And theres no way Ikarus and gilgamesh could take out thor hes just too powerful id even argue that he could take them on together.
@@fridididi with all due respect u are delusional my friend, avengers are cooler and more liked but it don’t mean they are stronger. The feats aren’t there for the avengers.
Avengers would honestly probably take this, I doubt they would just sit there and let themselves all be taken out. Dr Strange or Wanda could easily put something in place to cancel out the mind control. The tech stuff gets rid of characters that wouldn't have done much anyways. Spidermans armor from stark isn't what makes him Spiderman lol. Ironman would probably move to a strategic role if he couldn't use tech. Falcon, antman, winter soilder and warmachine probably weren't gonna be much help even with tech. And illusions are cool but when you have characters that can undo them it doesn't matter. Not to mention Strange can actually duplicate things not just make it look like there is duplicates. Thor Hulk Carol Wanda Strange, without some bs "oh they get mind controlled gg they lose" would probably be enough to take out the MCU enternals. Add in no suit Ironman, black panther, Spiderman, Hawkeye, valkerie, groot, drax, cap, etc. just to keep them on their toes its really not close. Speedster is the hardest one to counter and would have to go to Carol. The rest have easy counters or just aren't as great once you close the gap.
If we put the avengers at there strongest dr strange can use time stone and that carries hard. He can make another time loop or freeze the eternals in time. Put the eternals in the mirror dimension and the figure out a plan.
@@projectgg6730 no I'm assuming that it would be highly unlikely that they all get wiped out instantly, and pointing out they have multiple counters to various points made in the video. But those counters seemed to be glossed over because the video assumes they stand no chance and get blitzed immediately.
@@ayodejiodesile5653 as Stan Lee once said. It's whoever the writers want to win lol and considering that the avengers are fan favorite and the eternals are new characters my vote is on the evengers haha. Plus the eternals have to deal with thenas thing where she attacks them
I liked your video, so definitely thumbs up. But somehow your Scarlet Witch statements are bugging mr, you said fully powered MCU Scarlet Witch, that means not fully powered Wanda, but Scarlet Witch. We haven't seen her potential yet, but since we are all using theories. Then isn't it safe to say that Scarlet Witch can counter makkari with her molecular manipulation like the apocalypse, or let's say chances of hitting Wanda for Makkari is zero, as probability manipulation will reduce those chances. And if Eternals even give Scarlet Witch a split second, and if Scarlet Witch unleashes her hex, it will consume everything around her. Please look Into this fact, and make a separate video on it. Just about what fully powered Scarlet Witch in MCU could do. Not what she has done, what she could do in future, just don't mix comics.
He gives the facts out people will be mad still. It's simple MAKKARI is too fast. Her alone can take out nearly all the avengers. None of them can react. Also cersie can turn stormbreaker into ash or whatever she wants it to bee.
@@KeyIssues Wanda casually stopped her speedster son in wandavision. I do mean casually , like she wasnt trying at all. I am sure she could react to Makkari in a similar fashion. Also, Thor is able to perceive Quicksilver moving at superhuman speed during Age of Ultron. I am sure he could react to Makkari in a combat situation.
I think the avengers have a better chance considering the fact that the 4 powerhouses i.e. Thor, Dr.strange, Cap marvel, Scarlet Witch, I think these guys can go against the eternals toe to toe but the other team members with a proper strategy might not be a liability, assuming druid can control all humans it is not said he can control a God or the sorcerer Supreme and scarlet witch but scarlet witch was able to hallucinate Thor and the other members are good at supporting and are more in numbers Thus I say the Avengers can Win
While I do think Peter could use his Spider Sense to not get tricked by Sprite’s illusions, he’s pretty much screwed everywhere else. But if Makarri isn’t there, I can see Strange banishing the team to the Mirror Dimension, thus ending the fight. That is if he has enough time to do so before Druig or Ikaris gets to him.
As individual characters The Avengers seem to shine quite well but when it requires flawless team coordination... well, The Eternals have been fighting together for thousands of years. They're just a better team... true, Avengers are far more popular and maybe even seem more powerful in some ways but when it comes to team vs team... Enterals take the cake.
Couldn’t strange and wanda just use magic to negate all the technomancer and mind control abilities? Put protection spells on everyone like in what if and make it to where there armor and minds can’t be affected?
The issue is they would have to know a threat like that is imminent. Strange and Wanda aren't invincible, they are vulnerable if not prepared for an attack. They do not know who Druig is, and with how fast and powerfully he can deploy his ability, it's very likely he would get control of them before they know what hit them
@@satine1950 I don't know if it's really a fact, that Strange is not aware of the Eternals. Maybe he isn't sure if they are real or myth, but I would be surprised if he has never read about them or saw them in one of the possible futures. Other than that, I'd be curious how a battle would start without the Avengers knowing about the Eternals. If it's just a random ambush from the Eternals, then yes, the Avengers wouldn't know anything and just die. But that's a boring scenario for me.
well wanda is sky fighter...meaning she's a flyer in battle. So i dont think makkari would get her since she cant fly, so it would be wanda/cap marvel vs ikarus ig
@@idk--coffee yeah but the other eternals will get ironman so hes off the battlefield, the only ones that stand a chance is wanda, strange, marvel, and thor
@@KeyIssues Wanda cannot get speed blitzed, chaos magic prevents that. But let’s say she can’t, Makkari isn’t a win condition. Even against Ikaris, she couldn’t take him down solo, she needed Phastos and Thena. And Ikaris really doesn’t compare statswise to Hulk, who’s an insane powerhouse.
What makes anyone think Sersi can transmute Mjolnir or Stormbreaker? Those aren’t nearly as simple as Iron Man’s armor or Cap’s shield. Hand waving off the Might of Asgard is pretty dumb
@@KeyIssues Nope your argument is dumb, odin could take all the eternals out himself. So odinforce which is separate from cosmic energy isn't something to waved away.
@@KeyIssues Yes, but you’re ignoring the fact that she already struggled to transmute sentient beings. If being powered by cosmic energy is so extremely OP as you make it out to be, then she’d have no problem. But there’s obvious limits to her power so I doubt she could transmute something so powerful as Mjolnir or Stormbreaker
@@KeyIssues the butt hurt is strong with this one I see… Stormbreaker tanked the concentrated might of six infinity stones. If Arishem to be believed, the Celestials and their power is all encompassing - but he’s a really reliable narrator right? Arishem is seen needing to use an infinity stone (power stone from GotG) to destroy a planet. Thanos had all six. Stormbreaker tanked the Infinity Gauntlet. We are going off of feats, not what you would want to be true.I know you probably worked **really** hard on this video, but again, hand waving off the might of Asgard as if Sersi could just negate Thor is pretty dumb. I’ll continue. An interesting point you made was how Thor as a young man idolized the Eternals, so apparently that means they’re still more powerful than him… because students can never surpass the teacher am I right? Lol. Again, feats- not what you WANT to be true. Oh and Odin’s mead? A simple two second search would tell you that by drinking it, it allows you to recite any information or solve any question. You should try some. Might make some decent content, rather than just being a stan for the flavor of the week.
Or that Sersi simply transmutes Stormbreaker. That thing was able to resist and power through a sustained blast from all six infinity stones and is pretty much specially magically enchanted to kill a being like Thanos. Also there's no way Gilgamesh is Thanos level. His on screen feats are catastrophically less impressive than Hulk's.
@@drksideofthewal Well, we can scale most of the Avengers to Captain Marvels reaction speed which is light speed. So even if we say Makkari is faster she’s not so fast that she can’t be caught. And as we see in Makkari’s fight with Icarus she can’t actually get heavily injure anyone with high durability, and Wanda has been hit by Thanos and Strange scales to her.
Couple things wrong with this, macaroni was tagged by ikaris and almost boloed. Making it very possible for marvel, Thor, and hell maybe hulk. Second feats wise Gilgamesh hasn't even remotely demonstrated even feats even close to be called a "Thanos level bruiser". Matter of fact he was taken out fairly easily in context of the film. He would get mauled by any one of the heavy hitters. Third, if getting blasted by all the stones+including reality), Thor's axe would likely by immune to any sort of manipulation to begin with. While Thenas statements about how great of a warrior she is, who has she fought that would make her better then say captain America? The oy way they take this IS WITH the level of HAX that the Eternals can employ with mind control and technomancy.
Captain Marvel def can’t compare skill wise to Thena 😭 and she’s fought many warriors and soldiers over her thousands of years on earth and MANY other planets
What is the speedster on the eternal side focuses on the intimidating threats like hulk and Thor leaving Doctor strange time to put them all in the mirror dimension, then it is fight over. Or Thor sending a massive lightening blast all around him taking out the fast eternal and the ones with the low durability. Or doctor strange making a time loop. I don’t think this fight is as bad a matchup for the avengers as you say.
@@yablonsky5327 well considering how fast Makkari is, it’s safe to assume that she’s fast enough to dodge the lightening blast considering how she was casually able to move multiple times faster than lightning
This is basically fully prepared Eternals vs unaware, non prepared avengers. What if we made it to where the avengers know the eternals abilities and both teams have prep time
Easily the avengers. Dr. Strange could simply stop time at the beginning of the fight and take out Makkari, Ikaris, Sprite, and Thena, leaving the rest of them to be eviscerated by Wanda.
@@watermelonoverpoweredpizza6346 remember, Dr strange doesn't have the time stone. Wanda probably could stop time or slow it down to an almost indefinite stop, but not Strange unfortunately
@@yoyomayne even without the stone he could molly whop a couple of the eternal. Remember Thanos was a high level eternal of Titan and he needed 4 infinity stones to take on strange who didn't even use the time stone.
@@calebstephan2083 correct, he can still defeat at least half of them without the stone. But like @key issues pointed out, trust me i wish it weren't true but we gotta look at facts, Makkari is just too fast, an unprepared Strange who doesn't know her power would be speed blitzed
You just forgot that Strange can Astral project, which makes him immune to mind control and it is impossible for Eternals to touch him... You also forgot mirror dimension and Bifrost
Thank you this is what I'm saying. He like, "Phastos can control all tech and take it away and add it to his team" and I'm like "when, where, and how tf"
@@romeokilo4535 now he is dead, because he stood around for half an hour because he was building a suit, so any one of nore than a dozen avengers could have stopped by and killed him. And even if he finished his suit, what is to stop wanda, dr strange, thor, captain marvel or antman from just crushing him?
you SEVERELY underestimate the power of the scarlet witch. not only is the the most powerful being in the mcu atm, she also possesses the ability to nullify mind control (as seen in age of Ultron). on top of that she has chaos magic, and is able to spontaneously create anything at a whim. and ON TOP OF THAT she is a NEXUS BEING capable of destroying not only her universe but the multiverse as a whole. Wanda would clap them all ez
Also, zombie Wanda in "What If" was able to put up a barrier around her without even paying attention to the enemy, so a fully powered Scarlet can cast a waaaaaaaay stronger barrier.
@@KeyIssues I'm going to be honest I feel like if superman wasn't in it then it woild be much closer of a fight but I think ppl like superman and flash would carry since makkari could probably do bat wonder woman and I think makkari has superior speed, phastos could probably take out cyborg and batman's gadgets and phastos could just mind control, batman or Aquaman or wonder woman but like superman would have a big speed advantage same with flash but if it's possible for druig to somehow mind control superman or flash then they could turn the tide I think but that's also unlikely to me as they would probably take druig out before anyone would notice so idk
@@weshal5732 If Superman not there then Manhunter would could do the same thing, Firestorm could transmute anything they do. Makkari does not have superior speed he was already beaten by a Marvel Barry Allen ""Buried Alien" . So based on Marvel's own writing he has been beating by the Flash twice in Quasar #17 & Quasar #58. Not even talking about the cross over When Flash again bested Quicksilver. If this was the comics Phastos is useless unless alined with Thanos an avg Enternal by far...they OP him a little in the movie but not nuff to talk out any one sorry lol...he is a Technopathy he could maybe understand how Cyborg works and kinda hurt him but GRID tried that as well didn't work. As well Wonder Woman in new 52 (current wonder woman) she has easily rejected planetary level telepath. She has pushed off Dr. Psycho and Braniacso not sure how you feel Phastos is this powerful?? Even based on the movies only, without sups the Eternals wouldn't stand a chance ...and the Avengers are a bunch of batman with different powers, Iron Man, Ant man, Wasp, Falcon, Hawkeye, ( I really don't want to go on lol) The hulk maybe could hurt Aquaman but Sups, WW never....Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel are by far your most powerful normal memebers Nether would stand a chance...DC is way more powered ...marvel tries to pretend it's science DC doesn't care
@@scottmcfarlane7524 I'm not talking about the comics I am talking about the movie justice league cause if it was comics we all know how that would go so no, if ur gonna talk then know that I am not talking about the comics also martian Manhunter isn't in the justice league unless u are going by Zack Snyder's justice league and even the martian Manhunter hasn't really don't anything in zsjl so I can't consider him in the fight.
@Key Issues What is the lineup of Avengers? Aren’t the Eternals basically Space versions of Vision? Vision can faze through things, can undo mind control, and can shoot a power beam from his head. Thor took the entire force of a Star and survived in Space. Wanda not only mind controlled but also created 3 people with special abilities. Dr. Strange has a living cape, the Time Stone, and spells. Hulk is indestructible. Captain Marvel has all of the same abilities if not more than Ikaris. Ant-Man and Wasp could shrink so small they could go inside any of the Eternals and take them out. Groot could take out half the Eternals and he and the other Guardians of the Galaxy already took out an Eternal named Ego. The other Avengers ( Ironman, CaptAmerica, Falcon, BlackWidow, WarMachine, WinterSolider, Hawkeye, BlackPanther) bodies to throw at the Eternals as distraction. Not saying you are wrong but you really didn’t specify of focus on any of the Avengers strengths.
Because how he sees it, phastos can somehow control all tech of all suits in the vicinity including iron man, black panther, antman and wasp, etc and he says Makkari is too fash and can easily take out wanda and strange while druig mind controls everyone else. He's not looking at it any other way, but without another speedster I guess it's hard to argue that Makkari will be defeated
@@yoyomayne he is dumb if he thinks makari will be able to take out the high tier avengers. Ikaris was able to catch her and he wasn't even moving that fast. Wander could literally manipulate the reality around a given area and captain marvel could easily catch her since captain marvel is way faster than Ikaris no doubt. I do agree with the part abut phastos but everything else was bs
I'm pretty sure that Wanda will be able to defeat makkari...because her son itself is a speedster, and if she can create a speedster I'm pretty sure that she is much stronger than that...and remember, Wanda did all of this in her base form...only at the end of wandavison she attained her true potential...I think thor is pretty evenly matched with ikaris...Dr.strange with sersi, I think Wanda can take on both phastos and makkari..while hulkmcan fight gilgamesh..once phastos is down Ironman and the tech related avengers can come into play....I think the avengers and the eternal are pretty evenly matched
Forgot to mention Sersi turned a deviant into a tree so she can kill beings with a touch. Reading these comments no one who chose the avengers has a good argument, from what I’ve read. I will say, Wanda, Strange, Capt. Marvel, & Thor maybe the only ones who can hang. Imagine Druig using ant-man & wasp like it’s specific rim… & that’s only 2 avengers. Secret wars could be crazy!
@@romeokilo4535 he’s not really Wanda is probably powerful then them anyway. Strange will know what they do before they even think of it. Thor is similar to the eternals and with his true power is stronger and stormbreaker can kill an eternal as it was specifically created for that as Thanos is Eternal
Thor can't even defeat the "half" eternal Thanos, lmao! Eternals is the second most powerful races they are synthetic beings made by the most powerful celestials in MCU. Asgardian are just like humans or Aliens in MCU, which is the Eternals manipulated the Asgardians just like on earth in MCU.
I just thought about it & i have the answer to this question. You really only need Wanda. She ends it before it really even stsrts. She simply just wispers " no more eternals" Game set match. Avengers (flawless victory)
I'm glad this was an unbiased review, most people underrate these eternals because they're 'new' and not as popular but yes this is the closest thing to how it would go.
I don't know the result about their movie versions but if we compare their comic feats,Eternals are almost doomed by the powers of scarlet witch.Let's don't forget that here she infact got one of the best mentors(Dr Strange)she could ever get.She is an entity who erased almost the entire mutant genes once and then banished the freaking PHEONIX herself by uttering "NO MORE...".If avengers fought with a strategy in a way that Thor and Hulk protecting Wanda while she perform this,they have a chance to outshine Eternals. Also Hulk is immune to any telepathic/psychic attcks(even prof x couldn't do damn to him)and Thor has already knocked down a speedster faster than even Makkari,ie,THE SILVER SURFER.Wanda could react and stop Quicksilver in comics.And we all know what Dr Strange is capable of.
The Avengers struggled with Thanos.. yall really think they can handle 10 more of his brothers and sisters with the same strength and durability each with their own powers? Avengers are strong but we are talking about beings whos been around for millions of years and who already know what each Avenger is capable of. Phastos would already have tech available to take out each one by himself. Edit : Not to mention theres an infinite amount of them at the world forge.
Thanos is really strong but. They mainly because they weren’t working together and Thanos had the infinity stones. Also can you prove Thanos is an Eternal without using the comics, and prove the Eternals in the MCU have the same strength and durability as him?
You only attack this question with a one sided version of how it would play out in an attack favouring the Eternals. The Avengers could actually win this quite easy.
Interesting question, what if wanda and strange just start the battle in the air and stay up there where makari cant reach? they probably wouldnt know enough about the iternals to plan ahead like that but just what if?
@@yoyomayne ikr 😂. Plus if Ikaris was able to react and catch makari while not even using that much super speed than characters like Thor, Captain marvel etc should be able to do the same.
@@calebstephan2083 that much super speed? that just means his reaction/combat time is just OP. just because ikaris can do it, doesn't mean cap and thor can do it. nothing even suggest cap and thor can when both at best are human level reaction time.
If the avengers have prior knowledge about what the eternals can do then i think thor, doctor strange, wanda, and captain marvel could take them on by themselves
Ahahaha, that's laughable. The Eternals wouldn't last 5 minutes fighting the Avengers. Captain America kills Ajak Thor Kills Ikaris Iron Man kills Sersi Captain Marvel kills Thena Hulk kills Gilgamesh Scarlet Witch kills Makkari Hawkey kills Kingo Spider-Man defeats Sprite Black Panther kills Phastos Dr. Strange kills Druig There! I fixed it for you.
Great video but I had some thoughts harking back to the comics. Full rage Hulk has done some pretty nasty stuff. He’s next to impossible to destroy when angry enough. Also at that level of rage mind control does not work on him. He’s destroyed planets and gods alike. Doctor Strange could tap into the sources of the externals energy and nullify their powers. Strange is crazy powerful and the films never really do him justice. And Scarlett Witch is capable of creating and destroying entire universes. She’s as powerful or more so than the Eternals. She’s Omega+ level mutant. Ant man is also a contender. Being able to shrink down to the quantum realm and really be able to control all the weirdness of it, he could literally do anything. Kill anyone at any place in time or space. Change literally anything. Only other beings in that realm with that power could stop him. I really hope they explore this in the next movie. Pimm particle power is literally the most powerful thing/ability in all reality and every universe/multiverse. Thor is crazy strong but he’d get taken out unless the afore mentioned heroes weakened/nullified them in some capacity. I’d say they have more than enough power to compete with the proper planing of Ironman and Cap. Everyone else is useless.
Your on about harking back to the comics but yet you say Thor will get taken out. Rune King Thor will destroy them alone within seconds. Technically the Avengers are stronger
@@mohammedismail147 the eternals have a lot of high power heroes, the avengers have 2 or 3 very high level heroes and the rest are kinda weak in comparison
Without the kryptonite crystal and red son....How would they (eternals) manage to kill kal el.....if makkari tries to outrun through him then she is gud as dead....if mind hacks is not one of his(kal el) weakness.....then superman could taken down the entire eternals himself..........🤧
The way Wanda can warp reality and basically create super powered beings makes me think she could wipe pretty much all the avengers and the eternals if she really wanted to
It heavily depends if magic or chaos magic can counter Druig's mind control abilities, if not Druig solo's all leaving Thor alone to face the rest of the team
You create alot of Arguments for the Eternals highball them and act like the Avengers dont have an answer. Like how can you say Gilgamesh is a Thanos lvl bruiser? We only know he helped in the war against Frost Giants. Normal Asgadians fought them as well. So how can you say he is Thanos lvl when we dont even know that he can keep up with Thor, Odin or Hulk. We only know he can fight Frost Giants/Deviants/Other Eternals which is (Lowball) low Asgardian lvl. What makes you think he is Thanos lvl? Thats the biggest highball lol. Same goes for Thena and Ikares. No feats to Scale them. They only fight Deviants or themselfs. Sersi can Probably transform normal Matirial like Cap`s Shield or Iron-Man`s armor. But she will probably never touch Iron Man unless he goes physical with a woman and punches her in the face lol. Again. We dont know if she is capable of transforming a magical weapon like Stormbreaker... She survived a Knife stab wound. Besides that. She dosent really have durability feats. Sprite can duplicate everyone yea. But you should also mention that Thor destroyed all of Loki`s Illusions with a massive Aoe lightning strike in Thor1. I bet Hulk`s Thunder Clap can do that as well. And since Doctor Strange did the same vs Thanos. I bet he knows how to counter it as well. Same goes for her invisibility. The Avengers can Aoe them out. She dosent really have durability feats. Makkari is kinda op. But she literally got oneshot by a Deviant`s Aoe stomp. That attack took her out for a few seconds. He was about to absorb her powers if Phastos didnt blast that Deviant. So she can be dealt with. She is not that op i guess. Phastos was able to restrain Ikares for a while. Again. We cant scale Ikares to the Avengers. Only Eternals/Deviants. He dosent really have durability feats. Ajak has no durability feats. No offensiv feats. Kingo can hurt/kill Deviants. His bigger attacks need a lot a charge up where he is vulnerable. Again. No real durability feats. Druig can Mind Controll normal weak Humans yea... We dont know if he can do that to the Big Avengers... He was out the the fight for half the ending after Ikares blasted him into a ground... You highballed the shit out of them. And act like the Eternals heavy hitters are "Thanos lvl". But we simply dont know. We only know the Eternals heavy hitter "Gilgamesh" is Frost Giant lvl (as least). And the weakest version of Thor was mowing thru Frost Gians Armys by himself! So you cant really say who wins. We simply cant scale the Eternals.
Lets not forget Non-prepared-its-my-second-time-in-space-testing-my-new-suit Ironman tanked primary parts of titan’s moon when thanos hurled it at him using two infinity stones in Infinity War. I mean if Makkari hits like a falling moon im pretty sure Ironmans Endgame suit can still tank her Thor using stormbreaker easily decapitated thanos at the beginning in Endgame, Withstood the blast of a dying star in IW. Lets just hope MCU Gilgamesh is just as fast as he is Strong. Kingo and ikaris could flank and target aerial/ranged avengers but kingo just takes too long to get charged up, ikaris would be the best to play for picks because of his flight, of course, until the avenger’s multiple aerial members start to target him soley he might be putting himself at a 1 vs 10 situation. Makkari could flank and pick off weaker avengers yes thats true. Although the movie shows they can get wounds from knives, (sprite to sersi) the moment an avenger somehow ables to land an arrow, gunshot, stab wound, a bomb, super-kick to her already fast moving shin, she might be incapacitated enough to be blasted, shot, or stepped on by enlarged antman (goodluck healing that ajak) Druig can manipulate/control the human avengers but who’s to say strange, scarlet witch cant counter this The only reason the avengers lost in IW was because of a lack of emotional restraint, they were kinda split up and no planning, in Endgame they planned only for retrieving the stones. Even there they were taken by surprise from younger-prime-thanos, and from there they had to make split-second tactics. But if were going to put 575bc Eternals vs Planned and Endgame Avengers in their Prime (lets not forgot Avengers all with intent to kill) both sides would suffer heavy casualties but in the outcome thor, professor hulk, strange, wanda, captain marvel, would be the ones to deliver the final blow to the MCU eternals
In "What If" zombie Wanda (not even fully powered Scarlet Witch) was able to put up a barrier around her that protected her from bullets without her even paying attention in the first place. I think she can handle a few hits from Makkari at the very least. During that time, she can cast an even stronger barrier onto herself and others. Let's be honest, if it was a fair fight where each team knew of the opponents abilities, the Avengers might have a bigger chance of winning.
I think there's a discussion to be made wether Thor can resist the telepathy from Druid. Pre-awakening Thor showed a little resistence to Mind control, but Post awakening Thor wilds Stormbreaker, weapon that is stated it's sheer power alone would melt the minds of the weak and make their bodies crumble(or something like that). Scarlet witch and Dr Strange could protect the minds of her allies from mind control shananigans. And let's not forget Vision, and android who wields the Mind Stone, pretty sure he can resist too, even without the mindstone i doubt telepathy would work on an A.I And correct me if I'm wrong but Makkari couldn't hurt Ikaris despite her speed. She was just pushing him around. I would guess it would be the same with tough guys like Vision's vibranium body, Thor, Carol & amped Cap. So guess the true question would be if SW, Vision, Thor, Carol, amped Cap and *maybe* Dr. Storage could face them..... Meh 40/60 i would say, with a really good strategy.
Well even if Makkari can’t kill those guys with 1 shot, she should easily be able to 1 shot strange and wanda who are probably the strongest. Then even if thor and vision could resist the mind control, druig could mind control everyone else. Idk I feel like it’s more like 80/20
@@ninjaman7123 did you watch the video and see how fast Makkari was going? Her speed is beyond human comprehension. Strange wouldn't even be able to process what was happening before he gets 1 shot.
Without being disturbed Hulk can defeat lkaris because lkaris had no strength to kill one Deviant on the other hand hulk can smash large and stronger things like Fenris wolf
The only ones that can really do something are Wanda and strange but it's a difficult fight... eternals know everything about the Avengers infact it's a easy fight for them but if Avengers get prep-time then they would most likely win
I mean she is an avenger and has been since 2015 so why wouldn’t he? I’ve seen multiple people say this and it doesn’t make sense. She is literally an avenger.
@@lukeerative It's not the point that she's an Avenger, we all know that. The point was he made the statement that we will include a full-powered Scarlet Witch to even the odds. Making the point that the Eternals had the advantage in this fight.
Tho I wonder if wanda could just make a hex and trap the eternals and a full-powered scarlet witch? More of her new abilities will be shown in Multiverse of Madness
@@thecounselingcouch68 yeah but wanda being the scarlet witch made no difference, if she wasn't she would get instantly killed by the speedster and even now that she was the scarlet witch the same happened, literally no difference to making her scarlet witch.
Some Avengers do have some protection Against Eternals speedster. Strange and Scarlet with (not omega SW of course aka MOM) does have a lot of durability, because throughout the movies she indeed gets surprised attacked (infinite war) and surprisingly was Shielded by chaosmagic. Stranges Cape might Grand strange a lot durability as well. And Captain America himself would be somewhat 1 shot or 2 shot, but with mjolnir he is granted by the power of odinforce, example is Jane foster LOT which touching mjolnir made her as powerful as a weaker Thor version but very durable
You forgot 2 thing. 1-Tactical : From what I understand, the Eternals only fought Deviant. Avengers have more experience in fighting "intelligent humanoid".They could use the Batman power, which is planning ahead. 2- Plot Armor : The most OP power.
I liked your video but let's address several issues. 1st) What are the parameters of this battle? Do the teams have prep time or do they both just show up and start fighting? 2nd) Have you not been paying attention to Stephen & Wanda? Did you not watch the What If episode where the multiversal Avengers faced off against Ultron? Stephen OR Wanda could either freeze time or throw up a barrier allowing Stephen to place protection spells on everyone so that they could become just as durable as the Eternals. Whatever mind control Druig tried would EASILY be undone by Wanda. If she can negate the powers of the mind stone on Helen Choe then undoing Druigs mind control would be a piece of cake. Oh, and I'm pretty sure either Wanda or Stephen could make it where Phastos would not be able to ANYTHING with the teams tech. That's just two avengers. Need I go on about the abilities of the others which you either blatantly ignored, downplayed, or somehow forgot.
Well those 2 at the end of the day are humans so Makkari just blitzes them within seconds before they could cast anything. And since they are humans they wouldn't be able to react and would just get 1 shot.
@@Alexander-ng7zz Thank you for your response. Since it seems like you too are ignoring my 1st question, I know how to proceed. Before any battle takes place, Stephen puts them in a loop and has Wanda link everyone's mind. They may get blitzed but the second the loop restarts Makkari is portaled to another planet. That's just 1 scenario.
@@drebbles25 Loop as in a time loop? Well first off he doesn't have the time stone and I don't quite understand how she would be portaled to another planet. Besides if the Avengers aren't aware of the Eternals' powers why would he do that.
@@Alexander-ng7zz Did you not watch WandaVision? Wanda was able to make it day and night in order to fit her narrative. She even stopped time. A time loop would be nothing. Did you not watch Avengers endgame? Stephen Portaled his team from the planet Titan to the Avengers base to help fight Thanos.
@@drebbles25 pretty sure that only works when she’s in the hex. Besides even then, she wouldn’t be able to do that as Makkari would kill her before she casts any of that.
yet they tend to use guns to defend them self they seem designed to fight humans rather than killing deviants so they could defeat avengers but they are weaker are protectors of earth
So if I'm hearing you correctly, you had stated Captain Marvel can travel at speeds greater than that of light which is 670, 616,629 mph. You then try to prove Makkari is faster than Captain Marvel by calculating she can run at 6,853,248 mph which is roughly 1% that of light. If I can quote the late, great Tony Stark, "Your math is blowing my mind."
He preceded to say Ikaris could defeat all eternals , but Ikaris is literal captain marvel/ Thor level . Thor And captain América themselves could wipe out 2/3 of the eternals themselves , without a full powered scarlet which one of the most biased videos by far .
ikaris is fast enough to catch makkari who can run a fraction of the earth distance in just seconds. not to mention he seem to not take any damage when he was near the sun. he also flew to the Sun before that in just seemly seconds. he above captain marvel and thor for now.
Neither Superman nor Ikaris outclass the Eternals the way you imply them to. Gilgamesh was shown to be consistently superior to him. Makkari would have defeated him if she didn’t keep attacking him from the same direction over and over again. Phastos incapacitated him, they didn’t even Kingo. Druig survived a full on assault from an Ikaris who was intent on killing him. Ikaris had to make sure Gilgamesh died before turning on the rest of the Eternals because he knew that he’d get destroyed trying to challenge Gilgamesh. Ikaris is strong but not as strong as Gilgamesh, nor does he hit as hard. Makkari being faster would also hit harder. Everyone has something unique, Ikaris has heat vision and flight, Phastos can conjure gadgets, Thena can conjure weapons and is the best fighter overall, Gilgamesh can amplify his attacks and is the second best fighter, Makkari is the fastest by a long shot and arguably has the strongest attacks because of that, Kingo has ranged attacks that he can power up to obliterate Deviants in one go. Sersi can literally transmute a deviant into a tree, Sprite can conjure illusions and teleport out of any fight, Druig can control the whole planet. I know you want Superman to be the most powerful but he isn’t, neither in the comics nor the movies. Same with Ikaris, Superman archetypes are always overrated. No Kingo wasn’t right, they were holding their own pretty well. Majority of them were holding back while Ikaris was explicitly trying to kill them. The only one he didn’t want to kill was Sersi. Nowhere was it stated that Phastos was draining Ikaris’s cosmic energy. But yes, any one of the Eternals pretty much wipes the floor with the Avengers. Druig being able to mind control the planet would include the Avengers as they know about them. According to Kingo, who Thor idolises, Gilgamesh and Thena are the finest warriors on Earth making them better combatants than Cap or Thor. Makkari being able to fight at the speed Captain Marvel flies at allows her to blitz EVERYONE. Druig not being able to mind control the other Eternals means that Scarlet Witch shouldn’t be able to either. Sersi being able to transmute deviants would mean she can transmute anyone else as well. The other Eternals even scaling to Makkari slightly would allow them to blitz as well. The Justice League would be a better matchup.
U are just a butt hurt justice league fanboy who could not handle the fact speed doesn't count for much against marvel characters, Thor , captain marvel fight proves in what if that Thor has similar speed to her let's not talk about comics cuz Thor can fly gazzillions of time faster than light😂😂 and thanos and cap marvel fight proves that speed doesn't count for much in marvel universe
@@FahimusAlimus yeah she circled around the planet they were fighting on with thanos multiple times to find them in a few secondsin endgame that's basically lightspeed it was revealed later in interviews plz go read the script released for endgame on their site
@@FahimusAlimus I mean imagine Thor , strange , etc flying what can speedster do to them anyway , that's why adacadabra a garbage magician a flash villain has given Barry so much Head ache over the yaers
Scarlet witch stopped his super fast son instantly so why do you think she is slow? We thought FOX quicksilver can take Jen Grey but as all we saw Jean can react to such speeds and same with Wanda. You just I di ot
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Where to find the info that says druig can control wanda
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@@KeyIssues stop backing down man, I'll join but answer me cause ik for a fact a fast girl aint taking down captain marvel, scarlet witch and strange
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Basically, the only place that the Avengers can dominate The Eternals is at the box office *mic drop
lmao why did you do them like that
I mean, getting 300+ million during the Pandemic and the fact that some countries didn't allow it due to being homophobic, Eternals did pretty good in the box office.
@@basicsimp8798 no, the eternals is sjw trash
You’re a very very cheeky gal
@@rektz2457 how is it sjw trash? When does it ever force any type of sjw cringey narrative?
Exactly, perfect analysis. The issue with the Eternals is that even without their unique skillsets they all exhibit a high level of strength and durability, even the non combat oriented Eternals are casually walking off being slammed through buildings, slammed into boulders, hit with Ikaris's eye beams. So even Makkari a speedster, Druig a telepath, Sprite an illusionist, Ajak a healer, Phastos a technopath and Sersi their mage, all support type characters are also superhumanly strong and durable. So no real weak points.
I think the eternals are like mini AoU thor type levels
right
Thena is the weakest ethernal
@@jermainerodgers and so as your spelling
@@ryanchow8679 why? Doesn't matter. My spelling sucks so im sorry bcs my keyboard sucks
Iron Man is cool, therefore, he cannot lose it's that simple
What If show doesn’t seem to think so.
the only explanation
@@Mercedesxoo iron man dies in almost all of the what if episodes
@@quillette4130 yeah but what if kind of sucked.
@@quillette4130 One thing I love about What If. Stark is definitely overrated.
the only way for the avengers is if they already know about their opponents. Strange could take the avengers to another dimesion, perhaps the mirror dimension, and the Eternals can't do anything. There, assuming strange can, he would give everyone protection spells like supreme strange did in what if episode 9. That spell seemed really powerful, tanking all 6 infinity stones, so no one would need any tech suits as their durability would be crazy, and it isn't too bold to assume that also protects from mind attacks, as Ultron didn't use the mind stone at any moment when he could just win using it.
and if it doesn't protect from mind attacks there is definitely one for that considering there are thousands of spells and mind attacks aren't rare among sorcerers.
understandable, have a nice day
Or just say that phase 3 avengers have the infinity stones
@@pinkturnipo2986 it don’t mater they have scarlet witch she can just put them in a pocket dimension so they forget how to use there powers or just forget they have powers completely
Not you acting like Wanda and Carol isn't there-
While I agree that the Avengers have little chance of winning against the Eternals, I think it needs to be pointed out that Sprite and Druid are basically rendered useless by the presence of Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange, both of whom can easily cancel out illusions and mind control. It's the speedster Makkari that they Avengers should be worried about because she can easily take out their sorcerers.
Dr strange with the time stone reverses time. Could trap the speedster in the mirror dimension or an endless loop. DS with time stone is unbeatable
@@YummoWickersham fax
@@YummoWickersham remember he doesn’t have the stone tho
in wanda vison she can react to speedsters no problem. even stopping them in place
You are forgetting that Eternals even without their unique skillsets, they all exhibit a high level of strength and durability, even the non combat oriented Eternals are casually walking off being slammed through buildings.
Sprite and druid being useless still being stronger , hawkeye, black widow, spiderman, blackpanther, captain america, warmachine, falcon and so on.
My only thing is that I don’t think Sersi would be able to transmute an item as powerful as Stormbreaker. Especially if it has magic
lol....yep. These goofy people thinking her magic trick would work on a weapon like Mjolnir or Stormbreaker......smh.
Yeah. Would still work on Iron man armor though. However, yeah I agree about the stormbreaker thing.
@@matthiasjilimin700 yeah for the most part Eternals win but with how much Stronger Thors been getting lately I could see him handling a couple of them solo. He really is a god.
The combo of him, Doctor Strange, and Scarlett Witch isn’t getting enough credit.
So you're saying, Stormbreaker is more powerful than a Celestial? She even turned a living thing (Deviant) into an inanimate object which she thought was impossible
@@tc5405 that was due to the unimind, without it she can’t do that
Never mind the fact that the eternals are all well aware of each avengers abilities while the avengers are totally unaware of the eternals abilities
yup yup
Well everyone in the world is aware of the avengers abilities. They're a public super hero team for crying out loud.
Regardless. The Avengers low diff eternals. Thor > Ikaris, Hulk > Gilgamesh, Wanda > Thena, Stark > Phastos, Captain Marvel solos the rest of these fodders
@@svendjorgenhansen7722 Thor gets eliminated by Phastos or Druig with 0 issue
@@KeyIssues I agree, druig is a massive issue, so is mekkari. Sprite is gonna make the eternals look like avengers and vice versa to every other than capt marvel, Thor and Wanda and they r gonna destroy their own team. Also stark beating phastos is actually laughable. Sersi could turn the ground beneath the hulk into water and then reform it into vibranium.
Icarus gave me Omni-Man vibes with his whole
Wanting to fulfill his mission but ultimately going against it because of him growing fond of Earth and being convinced by the one’s close to him arc
very true!
And arishem the judge is Robot
Literally sersi is the only person he didn’t wanna kill. He would have killed the rest of them
The difference is omni man would 1v10 the eternals
Yeah the casuals are boutta be super mad
Technically, the Avengers would be fighting a group of entities who are of the same race of creatures as Thanos, who as a singular entity required all of their combined efforts to beat. This already puts them at a great disadvantage. Gilgamesh, Thena, and Ikarus may have corresponding foils in Hulk, Marvel, and Thor, but there is no correspondence to Makkari who as a speedster owns everyone but these 3 heavy hitters. Druig and Sersi has some correspondence with Wanda between mind control and matter transmuter, but post Wanda Vision she is going to be far more powerful than either of them. Sprite with all her mental baggage is no match for a driven, focused and imaginatively creative Dr. Strange.
The key players among the Avengers in this fight really would be their causality warper Dr. Strange and now fully amped reality warper Wanda. DS can negate every consequential result of their failure by resetting the fight until they arrive at the variant in which they are the winners. But it shouldn't even have to come to that if the nature of Wanda's reality warping is infinitely powerful since she herself should be able to negate every advantage the Eternals would otherwise have. It's why I will say that it comes down to a knowledge of the threat of the Eternals that informs either or both Strange and/or Wanda. Cuz otherwise, Makkari gets them first, and the Hulk is out because of Druig's mind control, and Thor and Marvel will just be overwhelmed.
you cant just ignore the power of the scarlet witch, and doctor strange's powerful spells and defensive spells. Scarlet witch spells is a direct power from the God chaton(dont know if its the right spelling but who cares) we see wanda not having a scarlet witch yet can end up killing thanos all by herself and by the help of the powerboost of the scarlet witch I think she can just tear apart limp from limp, and if thats not enough doctor strange can just trap all them in the mirror dimension and the other can just throw bombs at the eternals hit them with lightning and shit, it would be a hell of a teamfight, but not only that the avengers has more better team tactics than the eternals, where as the eternals others can cooperate just like that, and plus doctor strange can just inspire some other kinds of tech to tony or tony can detect phastos technology and can create a God killer suit which in the comics is specifically designed to kill a celestial, so I think the avengers has a huge power boost when the scarlet which is around them hence I dont even think makari can do shit about that cause scarlet witch can just telephaticly kill her just like we are about to see when wanda was about to tear of thanos apart
Thanos is a special eternal deviant mix plus he had the infinity stones too
Being the same species doesn't mean much.
Scarlett witch and Doctor Strange are the same species as Black widow but their Power levels couldn't be further.
@@toyosioyejobi309 exactly Thanos is an eternal with a deviant gene and that probably make him stronger than the other eternals. Wanda was able to hold Thanos off who had 5 infinity and she even managed to destroy one at the same time before Thanos undid it
How can Strange reset everything if he doesn’t have the time stone anymore?
It would also be extremely difficult to take Druig out. He goes in melee with a deviant showing some level of combat skill, and he takes both the lasers and physical strikes from ikarus as well as a massive fall relatively unscathed. His durability is off the charts for a character whose main skill is telepathy. You'd need a big gun just to take him out, and he could quickly be hidden behind traps and illusions. Phastos can restrain ikarus, both of whom along with gilgamesh, thena, and makkari are so powerful they give the power housrs a run for their money. Ajack can heal any hurt allies, and since she is able to tank attacks from bloodlusted thena and heal herself, as well as partially heal thena's madness, it's safe to say she can also prevent her own teammates from being mind haxed. Sprite also engages in physical combat, none of the eternals are going to be easy to take down, and with so much experience and skill as a team the avengers stand no chance
Thor goes buzzzz
basically. druig could win by himself
Druig was knocked out almost throughout the whole third act just because of the lasers from ikaris. I don’t see why captain marvel wouldn’t be able to knock him out with her blasts. Ant man and wasp can easily sneak behind enemy lines and attack the supports (sprite, ajak, sersi). Finally wanda easily just manipulates reality, turning them into sitcom characters unable to use their powers and attack.
Facts very true
@@Alexander-ng7zz yep and that's how ETERNALS STAND NO CHANCE!😌🤞🏻
The Avengers needs a rematch after doctor strange 2 because both wanda and doctor strange would be so much more powerful after that
Same can be said for Thor 4
Thor 4 to
Eternals will also get more powerful,the producer stated she had to nerf them to be more relatable.
@@oluwadamilola6233 They had to nerf almost ever Marvel character lol
@@maxpotential-4074 they were nerf more, stop acting like a smart ass, they didn't nerf Wanda as much as they nerfed sersi, nerfing is relative but eternals were super nerfed
Nah you underestimate wanda and strange together they can easily handle them with Cap marvel and thor.
True Wanda in komic Nexus in reality 616.
Wanda powerfull= cosmic bruhh..
They definitely can. The issue is the hack abilities of Phastos, Sersi, Sprite, Ajax, and Druig. The Avengers can definitely punch with the Eternals. The hacks cause a huge issue though.
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 without hack abilities, the avengers win. Strange, Wanda and vision easily negate every hack ability that the eternals have, end of argument
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 From what I've seen, outside of Ikarus's high end feats I'm not impressed by the Eternal's physicals. They struggle way too damn much with the Deviants whereas Thor and Hulk would go through those beasts like hot knives through butter. Gilgamesh putting that much effort to knock a giant Deviant back a few feat
Eternals have kills celestials avengers would not be able to 😂🤦🏻♂️. Yes I know strange and Wanda but even tho Wanda is one of thee strongest. She is nowhere close to the externals.
In a fight= Eternals easily
In the box office= Avengers arrested for murder
IS THAT A JOKE WANDA SOLOS STRANGE SOLOS THOR SOLOS
@@amazeseries9624 strange couldn't solo one eternal level villain..cough cough Thanos nevermind a whole team
@@richardlegrand4697 bro what, thanos had 4 whole infinity stones.
@@amazeseries9624 True. Gotta admit Thanos was augmented by the gems.
But still
Eternals have:
High level of invunerability
Superstrong
Fly
Matter manipulation (
Blast objects
Telepathy with psychic attacks
Telekinisis
Superspeed
teleportation.
Bro this is a who team of people with this power. And they are like million years old and have experience fighting other cosmic beings. Oh.
Don't forget they can summon the unimind which Seems to be a being that has the best versions of all those powers from each eternal.
Strange ( sigh...😔 kinda like Batman😔) is hexy type character with many tricks so writers often are able to give him maneuver that can save and even win at times.. but the average everyday strange with cape and standard gear would have his hands full never mind an entire team
@@richardlegrand4697 maybe not strange, even though he is more powerful then them and has morer abilities and ways to win, but wanda 100 percent beats them by herself, the rest, are overkill
If it's a suprise attack the eternals win no contest, but if they know what's up beforehand, strange can freeze time, which is something I cant see anyone preventing on the eternals team, the mirror dimension is something stated to be almost impossible to get out of without a sling ring, and remember who said that? An expert magician. Wanda is incredibly op as well, but time stop is such an unbelievably op ability that nothing comes close. But if strange gets blindsided or taken out, I think eternals win without much effort
Strange doesn't have the time stone anymore so idk how he is stopping time
@@KeyIssues my thoughts exactly
Strange doesn't have the time stone...there is also the speed gap; makkari is too much faster than all the other Avengers, they won't have enough time to react
@@KeyIssues And Ajak is dead so is The strongest Eternal.
@@KeyIssues bet! He is gonna get it back in doctor strange in the multiverse of madness.. and wdym? Wanda can erase these people alone lol
I disagree with your analysis. After watching the movie, aside from some hax ability members like Makkari, Druig, and Phastos, most of the Eternals were a bit underwhelming, especially the fighters like Ikaris, Thena, and Gilgamesh. Even the so-called strongest member, Ikaris, never even showed the kind of powers that can be comparable to any version of Thor. When fighting, he mainly used his eye beam and it took him a long while to beat a single deviant. So maybe the deviants are just that strong, but if that's the case, their fight should have done much more damages to the environment. Based on what I have seen, Ikarus, never showed muscle strength greater than Spiderman, eye beam no more powerful than Cyclops, with unknown speed and high, but unknown durability. Also, so far, Druig only showed the capability to mind-controlled regular humans. He did not try to mind control a deviant or his fellow Eternals in the fights, so it's a stretch to say that he can mind-control most of the Avengers, including the super-powered ones.
Anyone with baseline human durability immediately dies to Makkari. Including strange and Wanda. In Age of Ultron, nobody could react to Quicksilver, and Makkari is faster. Druig literally mind controls everyone but maybe Thor,Hulk, and Vision. So then it’s literally all the eternals vs them 3. Sersi can manipulate a celestials matter, so she can literally just erase vision if he isn’t intangible. Thor couldn’t take a “taser” (wasn’t just a taser) so I’m pretty sure Phastos can create something on the spot that neutralizes Thor. The rest of the eternals are just too much for the hulk.
@@kdsniperr6270 Lets be realistic, it's not like the Eternals will come into the battle with a battle plan and have Makkari neutralize all the non-superhuman durability characters first. She'll likely randomly target members and when she gets to one with superhuman durability and strength, she'll get taken out, like what happened against Ikaris. Also, lets not act like this is a turn based video game where the Eternals get to attack first, everything is fluid, so with the exception of Makkari, no one else is attacking first and most Eternals definitely won't get to choose when they get to fight. As for Thor getting tasered, that was in Thor 3, he later got stronger and even tanked the sun's energy blast, so don't be so sure it will work on him again, and even if it does, it's part of an advance alien technology, has Phastos ever showed the capability of making these kinds of weaponry? He's isn't some kind of know it all tech wiz, there is a limit, otherwise, he would have access to the Kang level time manipulation technology and more. As for the Hulk, at least he has shown the kind of destructive capability that far surpasses anything that the Eternals have done.
@@mannyk1986 you don’t understand how fast Makkari is. Like I said, look at the Quicksilver scene vs the avengers. They’re weren’t moving! Now imagine someone who is A LOT faster. They’d be statues. If she gets to a superhuman and can’t kill him, she’ll just move on to the next one. Also, Phastos tech abilities are descended straight from celestials, they surpass alien tech by a lot.
Yea some people really overrated Ikarus. He's strong. But he's nowhere in the same stratosphere as Superman strength.
@@quantaviousjenkins7667 Forget about comparing to superman, in terms of muscle strength, Ikaris hasn't even shown the strength to match up to wonder woman or aquaman.
After multiverse of madness I feel it’s pretty safe to say the Avengers win hands down if Wanda is on their side.
Wanda: What Eternals?
Wanda could still get Speedblitz'd.
@@spritvio639Based on her catching and reacting to her kid who she gave super speed powers in WandaVision… questionable
@@kitsunetenma7951 difference was she created him and she was inside the hex, Makkari is her own being
@@EternalPayne either you’re admitting that Wanda has faster reaction speed within the hex, which doesn’t really dispute anything, or Wanda cannot create things faster than she is, which is patently false. Either way, she has a method of reacting to something faster than she is, so the idea of her being speed blitzed by Makkari is kind of iffy
I would love to see a WHAT IF like this, like a 3 part episode. How about the Avengers get some prep time to know who there dealing with, give ALL the avengers vibranium + and some other stuff : ) good vid.
Vibranium won't matter, sersi(I think) can just turn all vibranium into flowers.
It wouldn't matter in the end. The Eternals are....Eternal. The world forge exist. If one dies another will replace it. Avengers would be overwhelmed.
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The main problem I have is that Ikaris is said to be by far the strongest Eternal in combat, and he didn’t seem like he could take Doctor Strange, Wanda, or even Awakened Thor in a 1v1 which makes me think that the rest of the Eternals might just have cool powers on paper, but not actually be good at using them effectively in combat.
In terms of Makkari, I think it’s a bit ridiculous to say that she would instantly take out all the Avengers, while not also saying the same about Captain Marvel taking out all the Eternals quickly. While it does seem like speed would be super useful, it never seems to be a big factor in the MCU in combat, so I think saying that Wanda and doctor strange would instantly die is pretty disingenuous unless you are also saying the same about the majority of the Eternals dying instantly to Captain Marvel.
Right if the difference in power is big enough for ikaris to 1 v 7 them and a couple avengers scale to ikaris how is it even a contest? Ikaris is literally just vision with less abilities and more screen time and in the endgame era vision is like a b tier avenger. Their strongest eternal is a equivalent to a b tier avenger
I see Ikaris beating them all ? If you map out the actual feats he has in the movie he has the highest feats of any brawler in the MCU. The Avengers got solo’d by Thanos who only has super strength in the MCU so the idea that struggling against one person makes a team less impressive is a pretty weak argument.
@@ooolong6551 Dr Strange beat Thanos in a 1v1 when Thanos has all the stones except space, and strange wasn’t even using the space stone. Wanda 1v1d Thanos when he had all the stones. Similarly, Thor also could’ve lethally killed him in a 1v1, but that one was much more in question because it was a surprise attack.
@@fidd1688 Have any of them withstood the heat of the sun ? Do any of them have energy projections capable of completely severing and destroying deviant anatomy? Do they have his reaction speed or battle sense ? Can they fly and maneuver at the speeds he can ? Tank sonic booms? Withstand a cosmic trap created specifically to trap them and drain their energy ?
I’m not saying they couldn’t figure something out but they’d definitely have to jump him, to me he’s clearly more powerful than each of them individually.
@@ooolong6551 Thor took on a star when creating Stormbreaker, Scarlet Witch probably could have the same amount of energy blasts, and in terms of speed, it's never proven to be a big factor in MCU fights, so hard to tell on that one, but Captain Marvel is supposed to be extremely fast.
It will be interesting to see eternals vs the dceu justice league
Superman blitzes the whole mcu and solos the verse no difficulty
Superman violates
@@jmb371 bias asf
@@jmb371 absolutely incorrect,bunch of Mcu characters will beat the snot from Dceu Supes. Dceu Supes won't do squat to guys like Odin,Dormammu,the Celestials etc.
@@David_Scar Definitely What If Ultron and Dr. Strange Supreme one shot DCEU Superman
Just checking in on the comments after watching Doctor Strange 2. Caaaaaause Wanda can just say “ What Eternals?”
Strange and Wanda are very powerful and can seriously take on the Eternals, however, they are still human and considered to be glass canon. Don't forget that the Eternals know about the Avengers and possibly what they can do. So they'd be more prepared to take them on. As he said, Makkari can simply go in and knock out Strange and Wanda before they can react. I mean, we see several times how Strange and Wanda can be knocked out or chocked out. Plus, everyone of the Eternals has durable body. The only reason Kro managed to kill Ajax and Gilgamesh is because he evolved a special tentacle to absorbed their cosmic energy. So maybe if Iron can make a tech like that, they can stand a chance but, as he said, Phastos is a technopath and has more options to choose from. Druig and Sprite can make sure the Avengers are essential fighting each other too.
Even though they are human Wanda is more powerful than them as Strange with all his abilities and knowledge can stop Makkari before he thinks about using his speed and Strange can see every possible outcome of the fight before it even begins and Tony doesn’t need to create anything to be able to kill them as Thor already has stormbreaker
Also, Wanda can cast spell just by thinking. Thinking faster than speed. 🥳
All father Thor coming in with the clutch with Odin force.
Earth's Mightiest Heroes Vs Celestial Slaves
I agree with the video but I will say this:
-From what I remember of the Eternals, Phastos needs to first come up with an idea, then design it and lastly creates it like the Unimind, that means in an unexpected battle he can be less effective cause he doesn't know what he is dealing with and has to think it during the battle. I guess in this case the Eternals know the Avengers well so it isn't a problem but in other cases I guess Phastos needs to stay behind while creating things and if someone stops him theres no much he can do.
-Sprite, were her ilusions solid at some point? Because if not despite being able to create an infinite amount, Mysterio's drones are kinda better cause they deal damage.
At least from a 1vs1 perspective, with the team Sprite's ilusions work better
I seriously think people are just under estimating the Avengers. A lot of them are very clever and they basically have unlimited money and lot of technology to help them also. Wanda also has illusion powers. Thor can fight them normally as he’s probably the only one who has the physical strength to do so and Thor could also kill them with Stormbreaker as that’s what it was basically created for a Thanos killing kind and since Thanos is an eternal and it killed him it could kill the rest
They know about the avengers
@@mohammedismail147 While what you are saying is true, you also have to take into account context. Yes, Thor killed Thanos with Stormbreaker, and injured him with it, but he was already very physically damaged in the former, and caught by surprise in the latter, I'd give him a 50/50 shot at beating Gilgamesh, but almost none against Ikarus.
And yeah, honestly, it really all comes down to Dr. Strange and Wanda, can they defend against Druig and Sprite, and if so, can Makkari take them out quicker than they can react? If so, the Avengers have a hell of a bigger chance, but if not, it's game over.
@@jamesgarretson2922 Wanda and doctor strange could definitely defend the avengers against illusions and mind control, wanda could probably even take both druig and sprite out. And theres no way Ikarus and gilgamesh could take out thor hes just too powerful id even argue that he could take them on together.
@@fridididi with all due respect u are delusional my friend, avengers are cooler and more liked but it don’t mean they are stronger. The feats aren’t there for the avengers.
Avengers would honestly probably take this, I doubt they would just sit there and let themselves all be taken out. Dr Strange or Wanda could easily put something in place to cancel out the mind control. The tech stuff gets rid of characters that wouldn't have done much anyways. Spidermans armor from stark isn't what makes him Spiderman lol. Ironman would probably move to a strategic role if he couldn't use tech. Falcon, antman, winter soilder and warmachine probably weren't gonna be much help even with tech. And illusions are cool but when you have characters that can undo them it doesn't matter. Not to mention Strange can actually duplicate things not just make it look like there is duplicates.
Thor Hulk Carol Wanda Strange, without some bs "oh they get mind controlled gg they lose" would probably be enough to take out the MCU enternals. Add in no suit Ironman, black panther, Spiderman, Hawkeye, valkerie, groot, drax, cap, etc. just to keep them on their toes its really not close. Speedster is the hardest one to counter and would have to go to Carol. The rest have easy counters or just aren't as great once you close the gap.
If we put the avengers at there strongest dr strange can use time stone and that carries hard. He can make another time loop or freeze the eternals in time. Put the eternals in the mirror dimension and the figure out a plan.
You're assuming the avengers would have time to prepare for the fight. Which is honestly a huge factor here
@@projectgg6730 no I'm assuming that it would be highly unlikely that they all get wiped out instantly, and pointing out they have multiple counters to various points made in the video. But those counters seemed to be glossed over because the video assumes they stand no chance and get blitzed immediately.
I agree with this analysis so bad, i mean this video was just crazy, the avengers win in most situations and it probably won't take long
@@ayodejiodesile5653 as Stan Lee once said. It's whoever the writers want to win lol and considering that the avengers are fan favorite and the eternals are new characters my vote is on the evengers haha. Plus the eternals have to deal with thenas thing where she attacks them
I liked your video, so definitely thumbs up. But somehow your Scarlet Witch statements are bugging mr, you said fully powered MCU Scarlet Witch, that means not fully powered Wanda, but Scarlet Witch. We haven't seen her potential yet, but since we are all using theories. Then isn't it safe to say that Scarlet Witch can counter makkari with her molecular manipulation like the apocalypse, or let's say chances of hitting Wanda for Makkari is zero, as probability manipulation will reduce those chances. And if Eternals even give Scarlet Witch a split second, and if Scarlet Witch unleashes her hex, it will consume everything around her. Please look Into this fact, and make a separate video on it. Just about what fully powered Scarlet Witch in MCU could do. Not what she has done, what she could do in future, just don't mix comics.
He gives the facts out people will be mad still. It's simple MAKKARI is too fast. Her alone can take out nearly all the avengers. None of them can react. Also cersie can turn stormbreaker into ash or whatever she wants it to bee.
People really arguing for Strange or Wanda like Makkari doesn't one shot them before they can blink
@@KeyIssues what if Wanda stops time tho like in the hex
@@talendickson1340 makkari speed blitz's her before she can even move her finger to perform that or before she can even think
@@KeyIssues Wanda casually stopped her speedster son in wandavision. I do mean casually , like she wasnt trying at all. I am sure she could react to Makkari in a similar fashion. Also, Thor is able to perceive Quicksilver moving at superhuman speed during Age of Ultron. I am sure he could react to Makkari in a combat situation.
@@majicogarcia8417 Makkari is way faster
I think the avengers have a better chance considering the fact that the 4 powerhouses i.e. Thor, Dr.strange, Cap marvel, Scarlet Witch, I think these guys can go against the eternals toe to toe but the other team members with a proper strategy might not be a liability, assuming druid can control all humans it is not said he can control a God or the sorcerer Supreme and scarlet witch but scarlet witch was able to hallucinate Thor and the other members are good at supporting and are more in numbers
Thus I say the Avengers can Win
While I do think Peter could use his Spider Sense to not get tricked by Sprite’s illusions, he’s pretty much screwed everywhere else. But if Makarri isn’t there, I can see Strange banishing the team to the Mirror Dimension, thus ending the fight. That is if he has enough time to do so before Druig or Ikaris gets to him.
As individual characters The Avengers seem to shine quite well but when it requires flawless team coordination... well, The Eternals have been fighting together for thousands of years. They're just a better team... true, Avengers are far more popular and maybe even seem more powerful in some ways but when it comes to team vs team... Enterals take the cake.
for the mind control part, wanda seems to be immune to it. agatha did try to mind control her, but she fought back. idk its just a correction
Agatha is a normal human
@@romeokilo4535 Agatha’s a freakin witch lmao
@@romeokilo4535 wow didnt know a normal human can live more than 300 years
Ii mention that the may be able to resist it in the video. It wouldn’t matter though since she gets one shot by Makkari
@@KeyIssues yeah, i heard it. i forgot to edit this comment the 3rd time
Couldn’t strange and wanda just use magic to negate all the technomancer and mind control abilities? Put protection spells on everyone like in what if and make it to where there armor and minds can’t be affected?
I was thinking the same
The issue is they would have to know a threat like that is imminent. Strange and Wanda aren't invincible, they are vulnerable if not prepared for an attack. They do not know who Druig is, and with how fast and powerfully he can deploy his ability, it's very likely he would get control of them before they know what hit them
@@satine1950 Wanda is invincible 😂😂 grow up DC boy
@@satine1950 I don't know if it's really a fact, that Strange is not aware of the Eternals. Maybe he isn't sure if they are real or myth, but I would be surprised if he has never read about them or saw them in one of the possible futures.
Other than that, I'd be curious how a battle would start without the Avengers knowing about the Eternals. If it's just a random ambush from the Eternals, then yes, the Avengers wouldn't know anything and just die. But that's a boring scenario for me.
@@amitabansal821 okay? You telling me to "grow up DC boy" tells me you are about a high school junior, but pop off
well wanda is sky fighter...meaning she's a flyer in battle. So i dont think makkari would get her since she cant fly, so it would be wanda/cap marvel vs ikarus ig
And also Thor, Iron man and Strange can help them
@@idk--coffee yeah but the other eternals will get ironman so hes off the battlefield, the only ones that stand a chance is wanda, strange, marvel, and thor
She gets blitzed before she can fly, but go off
@@KeyIssues what if shes already flying before the fight? But go off
@@KeyIssues Wanda cannot get speed blitzed, chaos magic prevents that. But let’s say she can’t, Makkari isn’t a win condition. Even against Ikaris, she couldn’t take him down solo, she needed Phastos and Thena. And Ikaris really doesn’t compare statswise to Hulk, who’s an insane powerhouse.
What makes anyone think Sersi can transmute Mjolnir or Stormbreaker? Those aren’t nearly as simple as Iron Man’s armor or Cap’s shield. Hand waving off the Might of Asgard is pretty dumb
Considering Sersi is an Eternal, powered by the cosmic energy that created Asgardians in the first place, your argument sounds pretty dumb to me.
@@KeyIssues Nope your argument is dumb, odin could take all the eternals out himself. So odinforce which is separate from cosmic energy isn't something to waved away.
@@KeyIssues Yes, but you’re ignoring the fact that she already struggled to transmute sentient beings. If being powered by cosmic energy is so extremely OP as you make it out to be, then she’d have no problem. But there’s obvious limits to her power so I doubt she could transmute something so powerful as Mjolnir or Stormbreaker
@@KeyIssues your argument is dumb
@@KeyIssues the butt hurt is strong with this one I see…
Stormbreaker tanked the concentrated might of six infinity stones.
If Arishem to be believed, the Celestials and their power is all encompassing - but he’s a really reliable narrator right?
Arishem is seen needing to use an infinity stone (power stone from GotG) to destroy a planet. Thanos had all six. Stormbreaker tanked the Infinity Gauntlet. We are going off of feats, not what you would want to be true.I know you probably worked **really** hard on this video, but again, hand waving off the might of Asgard as if Sersi could just negate Thor is pretty dumb.
I’ll continue. An interesting point you made was how Thor as a young man idolized the Eternals, so apparently that means they’re still more powerful than him… because students can never surpass the teacher am I right? Lol.
Again, feats- not what you WANT to be true.
Oh and Odin’s mead? A simple two second search would tell you that by drinking it, it allows you to recite any information or solve any question. You should try some. Might make some decent content, rather than just being a stan for the flavor of the week.
I very much disagree with the outcome. Specially saying that Makkari can just defeat Dr. Strange and Wanda is a bit out landish.
Or that Sersi simply transmutes Stormbreaker. That thing was able to resist and power through a sustained blast from all six infinity stones and is pretty much specially magically enchanted to kill a being like Thanos.
Also there's no way Gilgamesh is Thanos level. His on screen feats are catastrophically less impressive than Hulk's.
How so? They have powerful hax, but their reaction times and durability aren't enough to avoid getting hit and killed in a blink.
@@drksideofthewal Well, we can scale most of the Avengers to Captain Marvels reaction speed which is light speed. So even if we say Makkari is faster she’s not so fast that she can’t be caught. And as we see in Makkari’s fight with Icarus she can’t actually get heavily injure anyone with high durability, and Wanda has been hit by Thanos and Strange scales to her.
Couple things wrong with this, macaroni was tagged by ikaris and almost boloed. Making it very possible for marvel, Thor, and hell maybe hulk. Second feats wise Gilgamesh hasn't even remotely demonstrated even feats even close to be called a "Thanos level bruiser". Matter of fact he was taken out fairly easily in context of the film. He would get mauled by any one of the heavy hitters. Third, if getting blasted by all the stones+including reality), Thor's axe would likely by immune to any sort of manipulation to begin with. While Thenas statements about how great of a warrior she is, who has she fought that would make her better then say captain America? The oy way they take this IS WITH the level of HAX that the Eternals can employ with mind control and technomancy.
Captain Marvel def can’t compare skill wise to Thena 😭 and she’s fought many warriors and soldiers over her thousands of years on earth and MANY other planets
Imagine thinking any of those guys taking out the scarlet witch lmao. It’s not practical in the mcu or comics. Chaos magic is Phoenix tier.
Another battle plan for the Avengers... Dr. Strange opens a portal to Gotham City. He recruits Batman, and Batman outplots the Eternals
Where be the Power scaling for MCU Shang Chi????
Spider-Man, Captain America, Black Panther and etc. have upgrades outside of tech and considering sprite Spiderman has Spider sense
What is the speedster on the eternal side focuses on the intimidating threats like hulk and Thor leaving Doctor strange time to put them all in the mirror dimension, then it is fight over. Or Thor sending a massive lightening blast all around him taking out the fast eternal and the ones with the low durability. Or doctor strange making a time loop. I don’t think this fight is as bad a matchup for the avengers as you say.
You’re right, it’s a HORRIBLE matchup
@@KeyIssues but why can’t the avengers win the way I just specified?
@@yablonsky5327 well considering how fast Makkari is, it’s safe to assume that she’s fast enough to dodge the lightening blast considering how she was casually able to move multiple times faster than lightning
@@yablonsky5327 Makkari knows who all the Avengers are - she would target the ones she can hurt.
Good video it seems the eternals out hax the avengers but avengers are stronger since they have city level to country level feats
Can you talk about Attack on Titan?
What about it
This is basically fully prepared Eternals vs unaware, non prepared avengers. What if we made it to where the avengers know the eternals abilities and both teams have prep time
Easily the avengers. Dr. Strange could simply stop time at the beginning of the fight and take out Makkari, Ikaris, Sprite, and Thena, leaving the rest of them to be eviscerated by Wanda.
@@watermelonoverpoweredpizza6346 eviscerated 😂😂 what a word
@@watermelonoverpoweredpizza6346 remember, Dr strange doesn't have the time stone. Wanda probably could stop time or slow it down to an almost indefinite stop, but not Strange unfortunately
@@yoyomayne even without the stone he could molly whop a couple of the eternal. Remember Thanos was a high level eternal of Titan and he needed 4 infinity stones to take on strange who didn't even use the time stone.
@@calebstephan2083 correct, he can still defeat at least half of them without the stone. But like @key issues pointed out, trust me i wish it weren't true but we gotta look at facts, Makkari is just too fast, an unprepared Strange who doesn't know her power would be speed blitzed
You just forgot that Strange can Astral project, which makes him immune to mind control and it is impossible for Eternals to touch him... You also forgot mirror dimension and Bifrost
Omni man (amazon) vs dceu superman
Or maybe monsterverse godzilla vs mcu avengers
7:20 that quick silver scene always make me laugh 😅
Where do we actually see phastos control tech that isnt his own? Because i cant remember him ever doing that.
Thank you this is what I'm saying. He like, "Phastos can control all tech and take it away and add it to his team" and I'm like "when, where, and how tf"
ok. he can build his own Ironman suit. but better. now what?
@@romeokilo4535 now he is dead, because he stood around for half an hour because he was building a suit, so any one of nore than a dozen avengers could have stopped by and killed him. And even if he finished his suit, what is to stop wanda, dr strange, thor, captain marvel or antman from just crushing him?
@@romeokilo4535 that'd be sick
@@Julian-pw5mv completely forgot about antman. He can go in their bodies as tiny and turn to his normal size inside. Resulting to... u guys know
you SEVERELY underestimate the power of the scarlet witch. not only is the the most powerful being in the mcu atm, she also possesses the ability to nullify mind control (as seen in age of Ultron). on top of that she has chaos magic, and is able to spontaneously create anything at a whim. and ON TOP OF THAT she is a NEXUS BEING capable of destroying not only her universe but the multiverse as a whole. Wanda would clap them all ez
Also, zombie Wanda in "What If" was able to put up a barrier around her without even paying attention to the enemy, so a fully powered Scarlet can cast a waaaaaaaay stronger barrier.
Nope Thor is.
@@bundadesan1686 thor is supposed to be... sadely, he is not.
With that being said, the eternals vs the justice league, who would win?
Justice League
@@KeyIssues I'm going to be honest I feel like if superman wasn't in it then it woild be much closer of a fight but I think ppl like superman and flash would carry since makkari could probably do bat wonder woman and I think makkari has superior speed, phastos could probably take out cyborg and batman's gadgets and phastos could just mind control, batman or Aquaman or wonder woman but like superman would have a big speed advantage same with flash but if it's possible for druig to somehow mind control superman or flash then they could turn the tide I think but that's also unlikely to me as they would probably take druig out before anyone would notice so idk
@@weshal5732 If Superman not there then Manhunter would could do the same thing, Firestorm could transmute anything they do. Makkari does not have superior speed he was already beaten by a Marvel Barry Allen ""Buried Alien" . So based on Marvel's own writing he has been beating by the Flash twice in Quasar #17 & Quasar #58. Not even talking about the cross over When Flash again bested Quicksilver. If this was the comics Phastos is useless unless alined with Thanos an avg Enternal by far...they OP him a little in the movie but not nuff to talk out any one sorry lol...he is a Technopathy he could maybe understand how Cyborg works and kinda hurt him but GRID tried that as well didn't work. As well Wonder Woman in new 52 (current wonder woman) she has easily rejected planetary level telepath. She has pushed off Dr. Psycho and Braniacso not sure how you feel Phastos is this powerful?? Even based on the movies only, without sups the Eternals wouldn't stand a chance ...and the Avengers are a bunch of batman with different powers, Iron Man, Ant man, Wasp, Falcon, Hawkeye, ( I really don't want to go on lol) The hulk maybe could hurt Aquaman but Sups, WW never....Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel are by far your most powerful normal memebers Nether would stand a chance...DC is way more powered ...marvel tries to pretend it's science DC doesn't care
@@scottmcfarlane7524 I'm not talking about the comics I am talking about the movie justice league cause if it was comics we all know how that would go so no, if ur gonna talk then know that I am not talking about the comics also martian Manhunter isn't in the justice league unless u are going by Zack Snyder's justice league and even the martian Manhunter hasn't really don't anything in zsjl so I can't consider him in the fight.
@@weshal5732 Martian man hunter is in the justice league unlimited series
Thank you for actually taking the he time to break it down and not just go work who's more popular
@Key Issues
What is the lineup of Avengers?
Aren’t the Eternals basically Space versions of Vision?
Vision can faze through things, can undo mind control, and can shoot a power beam from his head.
Thor took the entire force of a Star and survived in Space.
Wanda not only mind controlled but also created 3 people with special abilities.
Dr. Strange has a living cape, the Time Stone, and spells.
Hulk is indestructible.
Captain Marvel has all of the same abilities if not more than Ikaris.
Ant-Man and Wasp could shrink so small they could go inside any of the Eternals and take them out.
Groot could take out half the Eternals and he and the other Guardians of the Galaxy already took out an Eternal named Ego.
The other Avengers ( Ironman, CaptAmerica, Falcon, BlackWidow, WarMachine, WinterSolider, Hawkeye, BlackPanther) bodies to throw at the Eternals as distraction.
Not saying you are wrong but you really didn’t specify of focus on any of the Avengers strengths.
Because how he sees it, phastos can somehow control all tech of all suits in the vicinity including iron man, black panther, antman and wasp, etc and he says Makkari is too fash and can easily take out wanda and strange while druig mind controls everyone else. He's not looking at it any other way, but without another speedster I guess it's hard to argue that Makkari will be defeated
But the mind stone. 😂
@@yoyomayne Wanda could react to her sons super speed. Not saying he’s as fast as makkari but Wanda was reacting to his speed with ease.
@@yoyomayne he is dumb if he thinks makari will be able to take out the high tier avengers. Ikaris was able to catch her and he wasn't even moving that fast. Wander could literally manipulate the reality around a given area and captain marvel could easily catch her since captain marvel is way faster than Ikaris no doubt. I do agree with the part abut phastos but everything else was bs
I'm pretty sure that Wanda will be able to defeat makkari...because her son itself is a speedster, and if she can create a speedster I'm pretty sure that she is much stronger than that...and remember, Wanda did all of this in her base form...only at the end of wandavison she attained her true potential...I think thor is pretty evenly matched with ikaris...Dr.strange with sersi, I think Wanda can take on both phastos and makkari..while hulkmcan fight gilgamesh..once phastos is down Ironman and the tech related avengers can come into play....I think the avengers and the eternal are pretty evenly matched
Forgot to mention Sersi turned a deviant into a tree so she can kill beings with a touch. Reading these comments no one who chose the avengers has a good argument, from what I’ve read. I will say, Wanda, Strange, Capt. Marvel, & Thor maybe the only ones who can hang. Imagine Druig using ant-man & wasp like it’s specific rim… & that’s only 2 avengers. Secret wars could be crazy!
It happened once and she didn't even know how she did that so I highly doubt she can do it consistently whenever she wants to.
Call me Crazy but I Reckon just Thor Wanda and Strange are enough
ur crazy lol
@@romeokilo4535 he’s not really Wanda is probably powerful then them anyway. Strange will know what they do before they even think of it. Thor is similar to the eternals and with his true power is stronger and stormbreaker can kill an eternal as it was specifically created for that as Thanos is Eternal
Thor can't even defeat the "half" eternal Thanos, lmao!
Eternals is the second most powerful races they are synthetic beings made by the most powerful celestials in MCU. Asgardian are just like humans or Aliens in MCU, which is the Eternals manipulated the Asgardians just like on earth in MCU.
@@marvinxo7624 Thor also idolizes the Eternal’s, he would probably change sides or refuse to fight the Eternal’s.
I just thought about it & i have the answer to this question. You really only need Wanda. She ends it before it really even stsrts. She simply just wispers " no more eternals" Game set match. Avengers (flawless victory)
I'm glad this was an unbiased review, most people underrate these eternals because they're 'new' and not as popular but yes this is the closest thing to how it would go.
All evengers go bye bye in 1 second captain marvel lives like 1 minute and wanda lives like 1 and a half minutes.
I don't know the result about their movie versions but if we compare their comic feats,Eternals are almost doomed by the powers of scarlet witch.Let's don't forget that here she infact got one of the best mentors(Dr Strange)she could ever get.She is an entity who erased almost the entire mutant genes once and then banished the freaking PHEONIX herself by uttering "NO MORE...".If avengers fought with a strategy in a way that Thor and Hulk protecting Wanda while she perform this,they have a chance to outshine Eternals.
Also Hulk is immune to any telepathic/psychic attcks(even prof x couldn't do damn to him)and Thor has already knocked down a speedster faster than even Makkari,ie,THE SILVER SURFER.Wanda could react and stop Quicksilver in comics.And we all know what Dr Strange is capable of.
Wait did thor stop silver surfer? Or quicksilver?
The Avengers struggled with Thanos.. yall really think they can handle 10 more of his brothers and sisters with the same strength and durability each with their own powers? Avengers are strong but we are talking about beings whos been around for millions of years and who already know what each Avenger is capable of. Phastos would already have tech available to take out each one by himself.
Edit : Not to mention theres an infinite amount of them at the world forge.
Dr. Strange can stop time. As far as I can tell from this video, no one here but him can stop time. Soooooooo
Thanos is really strong but. They mainly because they weren’t working together and Thanos had the infinity stones. Also can you prove Thanos is an Eternal without using the comics, and prove the Eternals in the MCU have the same strength and durability as him?
You only attack this question with a one sided version of how it would play out in an attack favouring the Eternals. The Avengers could actually win this quite easy.
Nope
Exactly
@@KeyIssues Well that was an intelligent answer?
10:48 Lol I didn't even know who Clint Barton was Hawkeye
Interesting question, what if wanda and strange just start the battle in the air and stay up there where makari cant reach? they probably wouldnt know enough about the iternals to plan ahead like that but just what if?
I think icarus could still hit them but wanda could still femd him off so yeah 😕
I mean Carol, falcon, Wanda, Strange, Thor and wasp can all fly, but he grounded all of them so Makkari can speed blitz 😑
@@yoyomayne ikr 😂. Plus if Ikaris was able to react and catch makari while not even using that much super speed than characters like Thor, Captain marvel etc should be able to do the same.
@@calebstephan2083 that much super speed? that just means his reaction/combat time is just OP.
just because ikaris can do it, doesn't mean cap and thor can do it.
nothing even suggest cap and thor can when both at best are human level reaction time.
If the avengers have prior knowledge about what the eternals can do then i think thor, doctor strange, wanda, and captain marvel could take them on by themselves
Ahahaha, that's laughable. The Eternals wouldn't last 5 minutes fighting the Avengers.
Captain America kills Ajak
Thor Kills Ikaris
Iron Man kills Sersi
Captain Marvel kills Thena
Hulk kills Gilgamesh
Scarlet Witch kills Makkari
Hawkey kills Kingo
Spider-Man defeats Sprite
Black Panther kills Phastos
Dr. Strange kills Druig
There!
I fixed it for you.
Does the Gilgamesh information come from the MCU or from the comics so where because I don't remember that from the movie
He says it on screen
@@KeyIssues all the asgard stuff doesn't say it on screen outside of some funny Photoshop stuff
@@KeyIssues no he doesnt....
minus wanda and strange- eternals
-the avengers would win
- what avengers? *mic drop
Ikaris vs shazam in movies version
ikaris would wreck current shazam in dceu, it wouldn't even be close
@@jah2032 Lol Shazam is generally compared to Supes, and Superman ridiculously outclasses Ikaris in every aspect...
( loki ) laughing in corner 🤣
Not an avenger
you are right but , he has the power to destroy all
@@jcvandyck3537
Great video but I had some thoughts harking back to the comics.
Full rage Hulk has done some pretty nasty stuff. He’s next to impossible to destroy when angry enough. Also at that level of rage mind control does not work on him. He’s destroyed planets and gods alike.
Doctor Strange could tap into the sources of the externals energy and nullify their powers. Strange is crazy powerful and the films never really do him justice.
And Scarlett Witch is capable of creating and destroying entire universes. She’s as powerful or more so than the Eternals. She’s Omega+ level mutant.
Ant man is also a contender. Being able to shrink down to the quantum realm and really be able to control all the weirdness of it, he could literally do anything. Kill anyone at any place in time or space. Change literally anything. Only other beings in that realm with that power could stop him. I really hope they explore this in the next movie. Pimm particle power is literally the most powerful thing/ability in all reality and every universe/multiverse.
Thor is crazy strong but he’d get taken out unless the afore mentioned heroes weakened/nullified them in some capacity.
I’d say they have more than enough power to compete with the proper planing of Ironman and Cap.
Everyone else is useless.
Given prep time, stark and strange would pull it off
Your on about harking back to the comics but yet you say Thor will get taken out. Rune King Thor will destroy them alone within seconds. Technically the Avengers are stronger
@@mohammedismail147 the eternals have a lot of high power heroes, the avengers have 2 or 3 very high level heroes and the rest are kinda weak in comparison
@@mohammedismail147 a friendly reminder would have sufficed....
@@YummoWickersham it doesn’t matter. If Thor is Rune King he’s stronger than them all
wanda caught tommy when he was using his speed
Who would win in a fight: The Eternals or the DCEU Justice League? (No planning)
Justice League
@@KeyIssues superman and wonder woman just too powerful, dceu supes makes ikaris look like a child
Druig mind controls Superman and it´s over for the JL
Eternals, none of them have resistance to mind control.
Without the kryptonite crystal and red son....How would they (eternals) manage to kill kal el.....if makkari tries to outrun through him then she is gud as dead....if mind hacks is not one of his(kal el) weakness.....then superman could taken down the entire eternals himself..........🤧
The way Wanda can warp reality and basically create super powered beings makes me think she could wipe pretty much all the avengers and the eternals if she really wanted to
How about Eternals vs The Justice League?
@dunedain of gondor Superman gets mind controlled.
It heavily depends if magic or chaos magic can counter Druig's mind control abilities, if not Druig solo's all leaving Thor alone to face the rest of the team
You create alot of Arguments for the Eternals highball them and act like the Avengers dont have an answer.
Like how can you say Gilgamesh is a Thanos lvl bruiser? We only know he helped in the war against Frost Giants. Normal Asgadians fought them as well. So how can you say he is Thanos lvl when we dont even know that he can keep up with Thor, Odin or Hulk. We only know he can fight Frost Giants/Deviants/Other Eternals which is (Lowball) low Asgardian lvl. What makes you think he is Thanos lvl? Thats the biggest highball lol.
Same goes for Thena and Ikares. No feats to Scale them. They only fight Deviants or themselfs.
Sersi can Probably transform normal Matirial like Cap`s Shield or Iron-Man`s armor. But she will probably never touch Iron Man unless he goes physical with a woman and punches her in the face lol.
Again. We dont know if she is capable of transforming a magical weapon like Stormbreaker...
She survived a Knife stab wound. Besides that. She dosent really have durability feats.
Sprite can duplicate everyone yea. But you should also mention that Thor destroyed all of Loki`s Illusions with a massive Aoe lightning strike in Thor1. I bet Hulk`s Thunder Clap can do that as well. And since Doctor Strange did the same vs Thanos. I bet he knows how to counter it as well.
Same goes for her invisibility. The Avengers can Aoe them out.
She dosent really have durability feats.
Makkari is kinda op. But she literally got oneshot by a Deviant`s Aoe stomp. That attack took her out for a few seconds. He was about to absorb her powers if Phastos didnt blast that Deviant. So she can be dealt with. She is not that op i guess.
Phastos was able to restrain Ikares for a while. Again. We cant scale Ikares to the Avengers. Only Eternals/Deviants. He dosent really have durability feats.
Ajak has no durability feats. No offensiv feats.
Kingo can hurt/kill Deviants. His bigger attacks need a lot a charge up where he is vulnerable. Again. No real durability feats.
Druig can Mind Controll normal weak Humans yea... We dont know if he can do that to the Big Avengers... He was out the the fight for half the ending after Ikares blasted him into a ground...
You highballed the shit out of them. And act like the Eternals heavy hitters are "Thanos lvl". But we simply dont know. We only know the Eternals heavy hitter "Gilgamesh" is Frost Giant lvl (as least). And the weakest version of Thor was mowing thru Frost Gians Armys by himself!
So you cant really say who wins. We simply cant scale the Eternals.
Lets not forget Non-prepared-its-my-second-time-in-space-testing-my-new-suit Ironman tanked primary parts of titan’s moon when thanos hurled it at him using two infinity stones in Infinity War. I mean if Makkari hits like a falling moon im pretty sure Ironmans Endgame suit can still tank her
Thor using stormbreaker easily decapitated thanos at the beginning in Endgame, Withstood the blast of a dying star in IW. Lets just hope MCU Gilgamesh is just as fast as he is Strong.
Kingo and ikaris could flank and target aerial/ranged avengers but kingo just takes too long to get charged up, ikaris would be the best to play for picks because of his flight, of course, until the avenger’s multiple aerial members start to target him soley he might be putting himself at a 1 vs 10 situation.
Makkari could flank and pick off weaker avengers yes thats true. Although the movie shows they can get wounds from knives, (sprite to sersi) the moment an avenger somehow ables to land an arrow, gunshot, stab wound, a bomb, super-kick to her already fast moving shin, she might be incapacitated enough to be blasted, shot, or stepped on by enlarged antman (goodluck healing that ajak)
Druig can manipulate/control the human avengers but who’s to say strange, scarlet witch cant counter this
The only reason the avengers lost in IW was because of a lack of emotional restraint, they were kinda split up and no planning, in Endgame they planned only for retrieving the stones. Even there they were taken by surprise from younger-prime-thanos, and from there they had to make split-second tactics. But if were going to put 575bc Eternals vs Planned and Endgame Avengers in their Prime (lets not forgot Avengers all with intent to kill) both sides would suffer heavy casualties but in the outcome thor, professor hulk, strange, wanda, captain marvel, would be the ones to deliver the final blow to the MCU eternals
In "What If" zombie Wanda (not even fully powered Scarlet Witch) was able to put up a barrier around her that protected her from bullets without her even paying attention in the first place. I think she can handle a few hits from Makkari at the very least. During that time, she can cast an even stronger barrier onto herself and others. Let's be honest, if it was a fair fight where each team knew of the opponents abilities, the Avengers might have a bigger chance of winning.
Interesting, I really have no complaints well done, but that was a team on team battle, what if it was 1v1 like Thor vs Ikaris who do you think wins?
Thor smashes Ikaris
Nice, thanks.
@@KeyIssues meh. nah. thor is squishy
@@KeyIssues ong
@@romeokilo4535 Based on what? Thor survived the full force of a star.
if hela was an avenger then they would win ahhaahhaahhahaahahahahahahaha
I think there's a discussion to be made wether Thor can resist the telepathy from Druid. Pre-awakening Thor showed a little resistence to Mind control, but Post awakening Thor wilds Stormbreaker, weapon that is stated it's sheer power alone would melt the minds of the weak and make their bodies crumble(or something like that). Scarlet witch and Dr Strange could protect the minds of her allies from mind control shananigans. And let's not forget Vision, and android who wields the Mind Stone, pretty sure he can resist too, even without the mindstone i doubt telepathy would work on an A.I
And correct me if I'm wrong but Makkari couldn't hurt Ikaris despite her speed. She was just pushing him around. I would guess it would be the same with tough guys like Vision's vibranium body, Thor, Carol & amped Cap.
So guess the true question would be if SW, Vision, Thor, Carol, amped Cap and *maybe* Dr. Storage could face them..... Meh 40/60 i would say, with a really good strategy.
Well even if Makkari can’t kill those guys with 1 shot, she should easily be able to 1 shot strange and wanda who are probably the strongest. Then even if thor and vision could resist the mind control, druig could mind control everyone else. Idk I feel like it’s more like 80/20
@@Alexander-ng7zz we ignoring any possible defensive spells they may have ?
@@ninjaman7123 unless they cast those spells before the battle begins, it doesnt matter Makkari 1 shots them before they can cast those spells.
@@Alexander-ng7zz I mean it would take a flick of a finger to put everyone in thr mirror dimension
@@ninjaman7123 did you watch the video and see how fast Makkari was going? Her speed is beyond human comprehension. Strange wouldn't even be able to process what was happening before he gets 1 shot.
Without being disturbed Hulk can defeat lkaris because lkaris had no strength to kill one Deviant on the other hand hulk can smash large and stronger things like Fenris wolf
The Eternals is strong but remember…the avenger still have a lot of powerfull member,doctor strange,scarlet witch,Shang chi,Thor
The only ones that can really do something are Wanda and strange but it's a difficult fight... eternals know everything about the Avengers infact it's a easy fight for them but if Avengers get prep-time then they would most likely win
@@yee3953 I don't think they know about Wanda's Chaos Magic tho
@@ale-jandra8735 They do...in comics they know everything; in movies also (maybe)
@@yee3953 so does strange whose job description entails knowing of potential cosmic threats
Since Marvel Zombies & Avengers: Doomsday/Secret Wars are coming soon, the Eternals (zombified variants for Marvel Zombies) could fight the Avengers.
Wanda and Strange can fly Makkari can't get them from air. Druig can be a problem but captain marvel in her binary form should take him out
Ngl, it'd be funny to see them actually fight, but Dr. Strange just portals Makkari into the sun / deep space.
This video is so subjective omds
Druig solos your favorite verse
@@KeyIssues snm of ur an eternals fan boy then klm
Hulk and iron man when infinity gauntlet 🗿
Dr strange with time stone 🗿
Vision using mind stone 🗿
Spiderman with iron spider 🗿
The mere fact that you have to give the Avengers a full-powered Scarlet Witch answered the question as to who would win. The Eternals.
I mean she is an avenger and has been since 2015 so why wouldn’t he? I’ve seen multiple people say this and it doesn’t make sense. She is literally an avenger.
@@lukeerative It's not the point that she's an Avenger, we all know that. The point was he made the statement that we will include a full-powered Scarlet Witch to even the odds. Making the point that the Eternals had the advantage in this fight.
Tho I wonder if wanda could just make a hex and trap the eternals and a full-powered scarlet witch? More of her new abilities will be shown in Multiverse of Madness
@@MrNoob-ev4kt Wanda in komic can destroy the power of the dark pheonix and spread it on earth creating new mutants
@@thecounselingcouch68 yeah but wanda being the scarlet witch made no difference, if she wasn't she would get instantly killed by the speedster and even now that she was the scarlet witch the same happened, literally no difference to making her scarlet witch.
Some Avengers do have some protection Against Eternals speedster. Strange and Scarlet with (not omega SW of course aka MOM) does have a lot of durability, because throughout the movies she indeed gets surprised attacked (infinite war) and surprisingly was Shielded by chaosmagic. Stranges Cape might Grand strange a lot durability as well. And Captain America himself would be somewhat 1 shot or 2 shot, but with mjolnir he is granted by the power of odinforce, example is Jane foster LOT which touching mjolnir made her as powerful as a weaker Thor version but very durable
I didn’t even realize how much the Eternals wipe them all out until now
You forgot 2 thing.
1-Tactical : From what I understand, the Eternals only fought Deviant. Avengers have more experience in fighting "intelligent humanoid".They could use the Batman power, which is planning ahead.
2- Plot Armor : The most OP power.
I liked your video but let's address several issues.
1st) What are the parameters of this battle? Do the teams have prep time or do they both just show up and start fighting?
2nd) Have you not been paying attention to Stephen & Wanda? Did you not watch the What If episode where the multiversal Avengers faced off against Ultron? Stephen OR Wanda could either freeze time or throw up a barrier allowing Stephen to place protection spells on everyone so that they could become just as durable as the Eternals. Whatever mind control Druig tried would EASILY be undone by Wanda. If she can negate the powers of the mind stone on Helen Choe then undoing Druigs mind control would be a piece of cake. Oh, and I'm pretty sure either Wanda or Stephen could make it where Phastos would not be able to ANYTHING with the teams tech.
That's just two avengers. Need I go on about the abilities of the others which you either blatantly ignored, downplayed, or somehow forgot.
Well those 2 at the end of the day are humans so Makkari just blitzes them within seconds before they could cast anything. And since they are humans they wouldn't be able to react and would just get 1 shot.
@@Alexander-ng7zz Thank you for your response. Since it seems like you too are ignoring my 1st question, I know how to proceed. Before any battle takes place, Stephen puts them in a loop and has Wanda link everyone's mind. They may get blitzed but the second the loop restarts Makkari is portaled to another planet. That's just 1 scenario.
@@drebbles25 Loop as in a time loop? Well first off he doesn't have the time stone and I don't quite understand how she would be portaled to another planet. Besides if the Avengers aren't aware of the Eternals' powers why would he do that.
@@Alexander-ng7zz Did you not watch WandaVision? Wanda was able to make it day and night in order to fit her narrative. She even stopped time. A time loop would be nothing. Did you not watch Avengers endgame? Stephen Portaled his team from the planet Titan to the Avengers base to help fight Thanos.
@@drebbles25 pretty sure that only works when she’s in the hex. Besides even then, she wouldn’t be able to do that as Makkari would kill her before she casts any of that.
yet they tend to use guns to defend them self they seem designed to fight humans rather than killing deviants so they could defeat avengers but they are weaker are protectors of earth
So if I'm hearing you correctly, you had stated Captain Marvel can travel at speeds greater than that of light which is 670, 616,629 mph. You then try to prove Makkari is faster than Captain Marvel by calculating she can run at 6,853,248 mph which is roughly 1% that of light. If I can quote the late, great Tony Stark, "Your math is blowing my mind."
Captain Marvel can move that in space not in the athmosphere.
@@unwono she can do it on earth too,it would just kill everything
Wanda: What Eternals
The Eternals: Dead
He preceded to say Ikaris could defeat all eternals , but Ikaris is literal captain marvel/ Thor level . Thor And captain América themselves could wipe out 2/3 of the eternals themselves , without a full powered scarlet which one of the most biased videos by far .
Which 2/3 are u talking about that cap and thor can solo?
Sprite would kill Cap...lets be real lol. And druig would just mind control him. Cap is not on the level of an Eternal created out of cosmic energy.
ikaris is fast enough to catch makkari who can run a fraction of the earth distance in just seconds.
not to mention he seem to not take any damage when he was near the sun.
he also flew to the Sun before that in just seemly seconds.
he above captain marvel and thor for now.
Before MoM : yep Avengers stand no chance
After MoM : yep Eternals stand no chance
Neither Superman nor Ikaris outclass the Eternals the way you imply them to. Gilgamesh was shown to be consistently superior to him. Makkari would have defeated him if she didn’t keep attacking him from the same direction over and over again. Phastos incapacitated him, they didn’t even Kingo. Druig survived a full on assault from an Ikaris who was intent on killing him. Ikaris had to make sure Gilgamesh died before turning on the rest of the Eternals because he knew that he’d get destroyed trying to challenge Gilgamesh. Ikaris is strong but not as strong as Gilgamesh, nor does he hit as hard. Makkari being faster would also hit harder. Everyone has something unique, Ikaris has heat vision and flight, Phastos can conjure gadgets, Thena can conjure weapons and is the best fighter overall, Gilgamesh can amplify his attacks and is the second best fighter, Makkari is the fastest by a long shot and arguably has the strongest attacks because of that, Kingo has ranged attacks that he can power up to obliterate Deviants in one go. Sersi can literally transmute a deviant into a tree, Sprite can conjure illusions and teleport out of any fight, Druig can control the whole planet. I know you want Superman to be the most powerful but he isn’t, neither in the comics nor the movies. Same with Ikaris, Superman archetypes are always overrated. No Kingo wasn’t right, they were holding their own pretty well. Majority of them were holding back while Ikaris was explicitly trying to kill them. The only one he didn’t want to kill was Sersi. Nowhere was it stated that Phastos was draining Ikaris’s cosmic energy. But yes, any one of the Eternals pretty much wipes the floor with the Avengers. Druig being able to mind control the planet would include the Avengers as they know about them. According to Kingo, who Thor idolises, Gilgamesh and Thena are the finest warriors on Earth making them better combatants than Cap or Thor. Makkari being able to fight at the speed Captain Marvel flies at allows her to blitz EVERYONE. Druig not being able to mind control the other Eternals means that Scarlet Witch shouldn’t be able to either. Sersi being able to transmute deviants would mean she can transmute anyone else as well. The other Eternals even scaling to Makkari slightly would allow them to blitz as well. The Justice League would be a better matchup.
U are just a butt hurt justice league fanboy who could not handle the fact speed doesn't count for much against marvel characters, Thor , captain marvel fight proves in what if that Thor has similar speed to her let's not talk about comics cuz Thor can fly gazzillions of time faster than light😂😂 and thanos and cap marvel fight proves that speed doesn't count for much in marvel universe
@@amitabansal821 yeah it does lol. Captain Marvel doesn’t have that impressive combat speed so that doesn’t prove much.
@@FahimusAlimus yeah she circled around the planet they were fighting on with thanos multiple times to find them in a few secondsin endgame that's basically lightspeed it was revealed later in interviews plz go read the script released for endgame on their site
@@FahimusAlimus I mean imagine Thor , strange , etc flying what can speedster do to them anyway , that's why adacadabra a garbage magician a flash villain has given Barry so much Head ache over the yaers
@@amitabansal821 Flash can fly lol but flight doesn’t do anything anyway it’s the most overrated ability. At best they could just run away.
Scarlet witch stopped his super fast son instantly so why do you think she is slow? We thought FOX quicksilver can take Jen Grey but as all we saw Jean can react to such speeds and same with Wanda. You just I di ot