Not too long ago, HD would rebuild your top end under warranty with new pistons, rings, and cylinders if you were burning a quart every 1500 miles. (that’s what happened to Kevin’s trike at DK Custom Products). And the reason they did, was because that should never be happening - that’s an excessive amount of oil getting past the rings. Typically that’s because the motor was severely overheated one time, and the low-tension rings lost their seal and the cylinders were glazed smooth. Do that just one time, and you now own an oil burner. The new HD tech bulletin stating that burning a quart in 1500 miles is “normal” is only to cover HD’s butt and avoid valid warranty claims. Looking at this in automotive terms, a V-8 truck engine (with four times the number of cylinders as a Harley) would be considered “normal” if it burned 4 QUARTS of oil every 1500 miles! That’s effectively what your two- cylinder motor is doing.
I started off with a 2020, Electra Glide standard that would use half a quart of the Harley 20/50 synthetic oil if I rode at a steady speed of 75 mph for just 80 miles. If I rode at a constant speed of 70 mph no oil was used even if I rode at that speed all day. I later bought a 2019 Road Glide Ultra that started off with a 114-inch engine that would use half a quart of Harley synthetic, 20/50 synthetic oil if I rode 80 miles round trip at a steady speed of 75 mph. No oil was used if I rode at a constant highway speed of 70 mph though or all day at that speed. I later had a Woods 22X cam installed, Fuel Moto, RTX, two into one exhaust, dyno tuned Power Vision, Ventilator Extreme air cleaner, S&S lifters, and lifter cuffs, Fueling oil pump and Fueling backing plate, Fueling vented dipstick, DK Customs head vents in a catch can on my 114-inch engine. Riding 80 miles round trip at 75 mph I would use half a quart of the Harley 20/50, synthetic oil but no oil was used if I rode all day at 70 mph. I had the exact same amount of Harley 20/50, synthetic oil used when I had 128-inch build installed. The Harley owner's manual says to use the Harley 360, 60-weight, non-synthetic oil when the outside temps are 70 degrees. Harley 360, 50 weight, non-synthetic oil when the outside temps are 60 degrees. Harley 20/50 non-synthetic when the outside temps are 50 degrees. When the outside temps are 40 degrees use Harley 20/50 synthetic oil. Since I switched from the Harley 20/50, synthetic oil to the Harley 360, 60-weight, non-synthetic oil I can ride all day at a steady speed of 80 mph now.
Well said man! I've got 250,000 miles on Harleys in 10 years and they have been very good to me. As you said don't push the envelope too much and you will have a reliable motorcycle. Looking forward to the next video.
I agree..I do my own for that reason.. I hate $40,00 t-shirts to..yes they are thicker than a regular tshirt but damn that's a lot of money to advertise for them
The Million Dollar Bogan (MDB) has been one of the BEST ambassadors for Harley-Davidson’s motorcycles. It’s unfortunate that HD doesn’t acknowledge the MDB by at least giving him a T-shirt. MDB makes me want to buy more HDMCs.
They actually donated some stuff to his bike while he was preparing in US for his second trip to Mexico and further to South America. But I would say it is too little to late. Part of that is the current target of the company and its CEO. He wants only electric Harleys in future, they focus more on making dealers some butique shops and most importantly he wants H&D to be logo just for the most rich. MDB is a rich, but ride as blue collar worker. That's the history they want to get rid off.....
I own and ride an old 02 carbureted Electra Glide with Stage 1 and 2 and have never had any issues with it, but I am anal about maintaining the old girl. I do my own maintenance only because I want to know that the proper attention is being given. And yes, I would take her cross country if I wanted to. However, I also own a well maintained GoldWing and never ever worry about taking her out on long trips. It’s all about routine maintenance. Any man made machine is subject to failure.
As far as sound goes, don’t worry about it so much. If you’re on the bike, we’re expecting to hear more road/wind noise. If it’s too quiet, then it’s not as immersive for me.
I use AMSOL in everything on my bike. Tried the Harley products but like the AMSOL best. I change all the main fluids every 5,000 miles regardless of when it tells you to change which is usually more mileages. Yes I changed my own with my husband teaching me. He passed away on June 25, 2022 so I will get a friend of ours to supervise me to help me remember how I need to do it. Hey, I’m 71 yrs old & have CRS, 😋😋. It comes along with the age, 😜😜
I think also worth noting. Service everywhere has degraded. Getting something fixed right has always been a roll of the dice. However the odds getting it fixed correctly have gone down. No matter what brand you have. I was at my local Honda dealership yesterday it looked like it was in disarray. It been there 50 yrs. They had 4 E-bikes, New African Twin and a used Harley on the showroom floor. Ive see better selections at yard sales.
I've had many brands as well and I have had a great experience with Harleys. Unfortunately with the very expensive brands (Aprilia,Ducati) things have gone wrong before 10 k miles, that's unacceptable. I never modify the engine or ride the motorcycles hard.
Myself and about a million other HD riders would strongly disagree with you about Harleys being reliable. I have had more than most over the last 3 decades. And one of my Harleys have been reliable. My 2003 VROD. I still have that one. All the air cooled TC motors have been basically junk. Never got more than 47k out of a TC engine without a major failure. Happy for the guy who got a million miles out of one. That is as rare as an honest politician. I have put over 100k miles each, on 3 different Goldwings. With only Oil changes, air filter and tires. And a couple of fork seals. Even the mighty M8 was a POS when it came out. The MoCo didn't get the oiling system right untill 2020. And they have been building V-Twins for over 100 years. Gonna take a whole lot more than a UA-camr to make most of us feel any different. Best of luck on your trip. Good chance you will need it.
I know this is a year later. But you've found 3 people that agree with you. A million seems a long shot. And 300k miles on a few goldwings is nothing great. Honda has been known for reliability. And no one is gonna argue that. Unless we are talking civics transmissions between i think 2004 and 2007. Which break down often. Message. Take care of your bike. And it'll take care of you. If it's a lemon. Take it back. The company will exchange it. No matter the product.
@kerrymjacobs I couldn't care less how many people on UA-cam agree with me. If you like the kool-aid. By all means. Keep on drinking it. Millions have already learned that it is nothing but piss water.
@@FullThrottleHOG Yes, I took my TG in for an OC and it sat on the rack for 3+ hours and never saw the svc dept do anything to it, but I did get the svc order saying work was done. That way if a warranty issue comes up, I'm covered. (Covered by the 5yr 20k mile pre-paid maint plan)
Passed thru SD Harley last weekend, drove down from OC How comfortable are you splitting lanes on the Road glide ? Looking to upgrade my road king . I have that same Simpson mod bandit and agree it’s kind of Loud, mine gives me headaches after a few hours , need to work on the liner.
Yeah Million Dollar Bogan is Legend am Australia and been watching him for some time now. Great channel to watch... With your synthetic oil are you running the thicker gear box oil? Your trip should be good daily vlog will be a Great idea. Stay Safe Peace
Whats your thoughts on HD bike alarm system? i had one fitted to my '05 Fatboy, and it crapped out... it would arm but wouldnt turn off. they fixed it a couple of times but in the end it was just too unreliable to dare use. thoughts? are they better now?
Was planning on a road glide for a while. Moved to the black hills where I’m around masses of HD’s on a regular basis. Not just the normal amount. And recently after seeing insane amounts of serious issues even on 2 year old CVO’s ….. I thought about it …. I’ve had only Hondas and KTM street bikes for the last 22 years. I have not even replaced a light bulb in 22 years. Not a single thing but oil changes and tires. Do I really need to deal with issues ? I think the terrible reliability of the HD’s is forcing me to get a gold wing.
Gold Wing is a great bike, but…It’s not a Harley. I’m 73k miles on my road glide with no problems. At the end of the day, riding a Harley has a different nostalgic feel that can’t be denied.
@@FullThrottleHOG Couldn’t agree more. But I’m just getting too old and too busy to swap motors in bikes , deal with battery issues , deal with all the number of things that break constantly that HD owners think is just normal maintenance. What I said isn’t an exaggeration. 22 years. 7 bikes. Not even a tail light. Not a dead battery , nothing. I still may get a road glide but I know I’ll then become like the rest of the crowd (I’ve owned several Harley’s in the past) who just down plays the reliability of these bikes. For the money it’s insane. Period. When other companies do the same style bikes with none of the problems.
I really wanted to own a harley but&$#@?. The price compared to other bikes like the star venture from yamaha you compate it on any level with a harley and in the end its actually better as an air cooled v twin than the harley. The name is not worth 15000$. After 22000miles only replaced the key fob battery and the battery along with tires. No seat or any other upgrades but add ons like more deflectors for summer riding. My backing off from harley was price and reliability. Harley guys that told me to stay away because of that if I dont have a budget for repairs. I think thats why most harleys probably only do the vfw and poker runs.
With all due respect, oil consumption is why I sold my 2018 ultra limited and will never own another HD product. Oil consumption with modern manufacturing capabilities is unacceptable and absolute BS when Harley says it’s normal. Go buy a Honda Goldwing and beat that crap out of it, it will not consume oil. I own an Indian and a Yamaha, neither consume oil. My two cents…..
9:26 HAHA, for REAL!!! The funniest shit i hear is when people say "I'LL NEVER....xyz" shit happens people, if it always happens, maybe theirs a problem, move on, if it happened to you once, or at one location...get over yourself, lol. i run SYN for everything but the motor, still conventional and changing it 2500mi. Traveling on a Harley isn't anywhere near as "risky" as long as you have a phone lol.
Yeah man, it the Stubborn American Rally hosted by Adam Sandoval at the KRiver Campground. I do have a video of the event from last year on the channel if you’re interested.
Harley Roadglides are reliable with a lot of maintenance or what I would call part retirement and replacement, not just oil changes. Honda Goldwings are reliable with standard maintenance and not a lot of parts changing. There is a lot brand loyalty and denial in the bike world for some reason. Both bikes need maintenance. A Harley needs rebuilt much sooner than most endurance models of just about any japanese brand therefore Harleys are not as reliable. I could call my car forever-reliable if I replaced the engine every 100k miles because it needs 'regular maintenance'. It's not hard to figure out why honda, yamaha and other bikes are much more prevalent around the world where they are people's only mode of transportation. They are more reliable.
Exactly. I’m not a Harley hater in the least bit but there’s a big difference between routine maintenance and repairs. Changing oil and tires is routine maintenance. Replacing engine parts is repair.
I own a 2021 HD RGS. But please stop with all the “every brand has lemons, too”. Of course they do. But let’s not pretend like HD isn’t WAY down on the reliability list compared to other manufacturers.
Million Dollar Bogan has bought like 15 New Harley Davidsons.. If you want to look at HD's with a lot of miles on them Check out the two Bikes that Adam Sandoval rode to every HD Dealer in the Continental USA, If you want to talk about high milage and reliabiliyt Look at the Honda Gold Wing or Indian Challenger.. In years past HD had really crappy wiring that failed a lot. Plus had always had Ignition problems .. Compensator Problems .. sumping Problems oil pump failures ect... With I supposed any full face Helmet you need the chin skirt in place..
I bought 2 brand new Harley's and they both sucked!!!! BOTH liked to go to the shop and stay in the shop, I was a dumbass for trying my luck on the second one. My 2nd. one even the speedo would fog up and rain inside of it so much for a 115 year anniversary model!
Same sh*t the speedo does on my 2018 Sport Glide. Irritating as hell. HD has a new model ending in a "B" part number and it still does it on humid days when having lunch and the bike is parked in direct sunlight. Problem not resolved, can't see fuel gauge, or miles remaining on the tank of fuel, either. At least my bike is not burning oil running the Syn 3 20w-50 in the engine. Run HD 75-140 in primary and gear box... Only stuff that makes it easy to find neutral at a stop.
What reliability I've had a 17 road king that blew a head gasket at 10,000 miles because of a scratch on the head from the factory. Had the gas cap seal fail and dump gas all over tank while riding in stugis. Had the clutch sensor go bad because i got caught in the rain. Bought a 20 road glide limited thinking i just had a lemon. That bike burnt oil from day one. They refused to rebuild it till 7k miles. It needed an entire top end by then. Within 4k miles had to go back in for valve stem seals now it only burn 2 quarts every 5k miles. Harley davidson says thats within tolerance. Now it rattles on start up because the timing chain tensioner sticks. Not a problem says harley davidson not gonna fix it under warranty. Now my heated grips only work intermittently as well. I have the maintenance service plan all maintenance is done on time by a dealership, and yes it's synthetic oil. There's no excuse in this day and age for a 30k vehicle to be in the shop 2to3 months a year.
Agreed that is a bum deal. As mentioned, no manufacturer will be perfect. My Honda was given to me without oil...like zero! Which, as you can imagine, caused headache for years. Hopefully things get better for you. Ride safe.
When I bought my 2020 Road King, I bit the bullet (even more) and bought the prepaid service plan. I've been running synthetic from the first oil change, and had no idea that the engine might be noisier. Thanks for pointing that out. I've also been having my bike serviced every 2500 miles, since it's already paid for, and I just had the 15K service done. Yeah, it's probably overkill, but I wanted to give myself the best chance for longevity as this is my first Harley and, at 68 years old, will probably be my last. Anyway, no problems with the bike so far, no plans for engine upgrades as the 107 has more power and torque than I need.
Got to Sturgis on Monday afternoon after a 1047-mile ride. Thursday night was headed home in a uhaul pulling my bike on a trailer. So much for my 60th birthday 3-week vacation in a cabin at Sturgis. 2018 Fortune Silver Electra Glide Ultra Classic with 48074 miles on it. Was heading from Custer to Black Hills HD doing 45MPH when the rear cylinder ACR= automatic compression release blew out of the head. The bike is still under warranty, but they were only doing brakes/ tire changes and oil changes- no warranty work. So, I headed home and the good folks at Gold Rush HD in Elko NV. got my "Penny" running again. Just got back from Reno Fall Street Vibrations and Tomorrow it's off to Vegas Hogs n Heifer's bike shows. Sadly, the Vegas Bikefest isn't happening for the 3rd year now.
Definitely not knocking Harley; I've had three. The last was a 2020 E Glide Standard. Nary a problem for the year I had it. Only thing that got me was maintenance. Three different oils? Just got ridiculous. Tires were expensive and dealer charge was insane. Plus, I felt I was limited in my riding. What's down that dirt road? Who knows. I ain't taking the 800 lb. beast down there. Traded it for a Suzuki V-Strom 1050XT Adventure. I'm happy.
Have had 5 new Harleys never added oil to any of them between oil changes from 86 heritage to 21 roadglide all except roadglide had at least 50,000 miles now my shovels all used or leaked oil always kept a quart in the saddlebag’s
You hope it’s been checked out. It’s not difficult, learn to do your own services. That way your not trusting your life to someone else. Your the typical rider the dealer loves. Bring us your bike and money. We’ll do the rest.
I've got a 2020 Road Glide Limited. Bought used with 4k miles on it. I started using Red Line in all three holes. I was using a quart every 1k to 1500 miles. Switched to Amsoil and I haven't burnt a drop.
I have a 19 RGS with 52K on it. Being a 19 model is still had the old/bad oil pump in it. I upgraded my cam to a Red Shift 468 so when I did that I added an S&S oil pump, cam plate and lifters and used a Power Vision to tune it, all courtesy of Fuel Moto so the warranty was voided pretty quickly. I have run Amsoil in all three holes since the 1K service and it hasn’t seen a Harley dealership since the 1K service. I do all the work on my bike myself and haven’t had any problems. It does appear that the 2020 oil pumps are much better my buddy has a 2020 RG Limited and he has had zero problems. I really wish I could be at the stubborn American but I just got back from a 3k trip through Colorado, didn’t plan that out very well. Be safe looking forward to seeing your vlogs from the party.
Great vid. That’s some dealership. The events board is very cool. I have been watching Danny Hayes since his real estate auction vlogs and then of course into his bike vids. Great entertainment. Looking forward to your upcoming trip 👍
I always run HD 360. It’s all in the proper break-in of the motor, not necessarily how the MOCO says to do it. I just did a trip with a fresh oil change before I left. From Texas, to Montana, Utah, Idaho, Colorado and most of the parks. 12 days with some spirited riding, used about 1/2 quart in the whole trip of 3100 miles.
Great Video Ryan I have been running pure synthetic in all my bikes for years. I don't buy HD theory its ok to burn a quart every 1500 miles but that's HD covering their butts
Before I bought my 2019 HD RG (47K) I had a number of friends/family warning me about reliability issues after researching that issue I found a preponderance of HD riders had motor work performed. Many of the riders I would run into on road trips especially old folks were riding stock bike with well over 100k.
75,000kms on my 2018 FLTRU, has had all services done at or before service intervals. stage 2 with power cam at the 12k mark. I have never had to add any oil between changes, it's never been down less than 1/2 a litre.. I ride it to, it's seen the 6400rpm redline here and there. I use syn3 in all holes, after 1600km change. Would never use anything but.
Great Job and yes I feel the same about HD. Love my 21 TriGlide that I bought new 12 months ago. I will say my Service manager asked me to put Redline Synthetic in it. So that’s what I did, what a difference it makes in engine noise. Love my Redline oil and my Tri Glide.
Thinner motor oil from slightly lower viscosity = higher oil flow / recirculation rates and a slightly lower observed oil pressure because of the increased oil flow rates to all engine parts. Usually temps will drop 10 to 20F observed. So that's the best benefit of a fully synthetic motor oil. Don't over heat it, and the additives stay in the oil and don't get roasted and cooked out of the oil causing the oil to become ineffective. Overheating any motor oil is bad for it. Don't run your bike really hard when it's hot out, slow down, take it easy, and lower your fuel consumption rate throttling bak and your oil will stay cooler.
I bought a new 2019 street glide special in October 2018. I followed the break in guidelines and I get it serviced by Harley and I don't (for the most part) run it hard. In a couple of weeks, it's going in for its 60k service. It will have about 61k by the time I bring it in. I run syn 3 and haven't had any problems.
Reliability doesn't affect sales much because (most) modern HD buyers are old and very well off so toy money is not a problem. If it breaks, throw more money at it and install a bigger engine since it's a toy not a tool. For used buyers HDs being so easy to work on and having the biggest aftermarket of any brand more than compensates for any issues. For example I'm still fixing Twin Cam timing chain shoe problems because so many owners never heard of them, but the work is easy to DIY (any real motorcyclist is also a mechanic) so that doesn't hurt used sales. Despite all those roached engines HD sold everything it could produce in that era.
i will never buy another harley davidson. have a 2017 triglide and had the oil problem that harley knows that is a flaw in the build and to bad its your problem. so this non american company now can go to hell
@@FullThrottleHOG Yes even the migrants don’t want to be there since they left a communist country with no electricity ⚡️ just like Commiefornia! Lol 😂
Thanks for your input “ I’ve come to realize that all HD’ dealership’s are not created equal, but the reliability of the product are. Only one America” thanks for proudly displaying Her’
All I can say is that I've put 30k on Ultra limited in 3 years. 3k on 6 day trip just last week bringing total mileage to 38k. Only one issue, the thermostat crapped out at 10k. That's it. & i didn't buy the extended warranty when i bought it. I just stay on top of my maintenence. My friends M109 with 16k - clutch crapped out on him last week. If it's mechanical is going to break at some point.
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Not too long ago, HD would rebuild your top end under warranty with new pistons, rings, and cylinders if you were burning a quart every 1500 miles. (that’s what happened to Kevin’s trike at DK Custom Products). And the reason they did, was because that should never be happening - that’s an excessive amount of oil getting past the rings. Typically that’s because the motor was severely overheated one time, and the low-tension rings lost their seal and the cylinders were glazed smooth. Do that just one time, and you now own an oil burner. The new HD tech bulletin stating that burning a quart in 1500 miles is “normal” is only to cover HD’s butt and avoid valid warranty claims. Looking at this in automotive terms, a V-8 truck engine (with four times the number of cylinders as a Harley) would be considered “normal” if it burned 4 QUARTS of oil every 1500 miles! That’s effectively what your two- cylinder motor is doing.
You bring up good point and an interesting perspective. It is something to think about. I appreciate you watching and for the feedback. 🤙🏻
This is a good example of corporate greed.
I started off with a 2020, Electra Glide standard that would use half a quart of the Harley 20/50 synthetic oil if I rode at a steady speed of 75 mph for just 80 miles. If I rode at a constant speed of 70 mph no oil was used even if I rode at that speed all day. I later bought a 2019 Road Glide Ultra that started off with a 114-inch engine that would use half a quart of Harley synthetic, 20/50 synthetic oil if I rode 80 miles round trip at a steady speed of 75 mph. No oil was used if I rode at a constant highway speed of 70 mph though or all day at that speed. I later had a Woods 22X cam installed, Fuel Moto, RTX, two into one exhaust, dyno tuned Power Vision, Ventilator Extreme air cleaner, S&S lifters, and lifter cuffs, Fueling oil pump and Fueling backing plate, Fueling vented dipstick, DK Customs head vents in a catch can on my 114-inch engine. Riding 80 miles round trip at 75 mph I would use half a quart of the Harley 20/50, synthetic oil but no oil was used if I rode all day at 70 mph. I had the exact same amount of Harley 20/50, synthetic oil used when I had 128-inch build installed. The Harley owner's manual says to use the Harley 360, 60-weight, non-synthetic oil when the outside temps are 70 degrees. Harley 360, 50 weight, non-synthetic oil when the outside temps are 60 degrees. Harley 20/50 non-synthetic when the outside temps are 50 degrees. When the outside temps are 40 degrees use Harley 20/50 synthetic oil. Since I switched from the Harley 20/50, synthetic oil to the Harley 360, 60-weight, non-synthetic oil I can ride all day at a steady speed of 80 mph now.
Well said man! I've got 250,000 miles on Harleys in 10 years and they have been very good to me. As you said don't push the envelope too much and you will have a reliable motorcycle. Looking forward to the next video.
That's alot of miles,what type of Harley's have you been riding Shovel,evos or twin cam?
@@bbrubble9328 I’m a younger guy, so TC’s and a M8.
My complaint with Harley Davidson is paying $300 for an oil change. $727 for a three hole oil change. That is pure Bullshit!
I agree..I do my own for that reason.. I hate $40,00 t-shirts to..yes they are thicker than a regular tshirt but damn that's a lot of money to advertise for them
I can do all three at home for about $140...with Amsoil. I wouldn't take my dog to be jacked off to the dealer.
The Million Dollar Bogan (MDB) has been one of the BEST ambassadors for Harley-Davidson’s motorcycles. It’s unfortunate that HD doesn’t acknowledge the MDB by at least giving him a T-shirt. MDB makes me want to buy more HDMCs.
Agreed! 🤙🏻
They actually donated some stuff to his bike while he was preparing in US for his second trip to Mexico and further to South America. But I would say it is too little to late. Part of that is the current target of the company and its CEO. He wants only electric Harleys in future, they focus more on making dealers some butique shops and most importantly he wants H&D to be logo just for the most rich. MDB is a rich, but ride as blue collar worker. That's the history they want to get rid off.....
Maintenance is key to any motorcycle’s reliability. I only use synthetic oil in my HD. You definitely hear the lifters when you run that type of oil.
Glad you're gonna make the Stubborn American bro! See ya there! Safe travels! Ive always used HD's Syn3 and been happy with it.
Hell yeah man. Can’t wait. Safe travels to you as well. 🤙🏻
I own and ride an old 02 carbureted Electra Glide with Stage 1 and 2 and have never had any issues with it, but I am anal about maintaining the old girl. I do my own maintenance only because I want to know that the proper attention is being given. And yes, I would take her cross country if I wanted to. However, I also own a well maintained GoldWing and never ever worry about taking her out on long trips. It’s all about routine maintenance. Any man made machine is subject to failure.
As far as sound goes, don’t worry about it so much. If you’re on the bike, we’re expecting to hear more road/wind noise. If it’s too quiet, then it’s not as immersive for me.
Good tip DocSpiffy. Thanks for watching and for the feedback. Be safe.
I use AMSOL in everything on my bike. Tried the Harley products but like the AMSOL best. I change all the main fluids every 5,000 miles regardless of when it tells you to change which is usually more mileages. Yes I changed my own with my husband teaching me. He passed away on June 25, 2022 so I will get a friend of ours to supervise me to help me remember how I need to do it. Hey, I’m 71 yrs old & have CRS, 😋😋. It comes along with the age, 😜😜
What is CRS?
Sorry about you lost....
I think also worth noting. Service everywhere has degraded. Getting something fixed right has always been a roll of the dice. However the odds getting it fixed correctly have gone down. No matter what brand you have. I was at my local Honda dealership yesterday it looked like it was in disarray. It been there 50 yrs. They had 4 E-bikes, New African Twin and a used Harley on the showroom floor. Ive see better selections at yard sales.
Reliable iMO. I’ve had a Twin cam and now an M8. I’ve modified my M8 and no issues yet.
On my third Harley in 30 years. All three have been very reliable.
Hell yeah man! Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
Great video brother. Thank you for sharing your info. Your audio sounds amazing.
Man I still feel bad for you when your bike broke down. Thank God Adam has so many connections! See ya in a couple weeks
Yeah man. Lol, I don’t plan on repeating that mistake. See you out there. Ride safe. 🤙🏻
Safe travels Ryan looking forward to watching your trip 😎👌
Thanks brother. I’m hoping to capture as much as I can. 🤙🏻
I am new to the Harley world. I really enjoy your content sir
I've had many brands as well and I have had a great experience with Harleys. Unfortunately with the very expensive brands (Aprilia,Ducati) things have gone wrong before 10 k miles, that's unacceptable. I never modify the engine or ride the motorcycles hard.
I'm planning on a ride to Coffee Corner Santee and see Clint. SBT by Fri AM 10/14
NICE!!!!
Love Danny his channel is one of my favorites to watch
Agreed. It’s been really entertaining. Be safe. 🤙🏻
Dude drank the Harley Kool Aid. Seems like a cool cat, but he doesn’t wrench so the HD techs can tell him anything.
Myself and about a million other HD riders would strongly disagree with you about Harleys being reliable. I have had more than most over the last 3 decades. And one of my Harleys have been reliable. My 2003 VROD. I still have that one. All the air cooled TC motors have been basically junk. Never got more than 47k out of a TC engine without a major failure. Happy for the guy who got a million miles out of one. That is as rare as an honest politician. I have put over 100k miles each, on 3 different Goldwings. With only Oil changes, air filter and tires. And a couple of fork seals. Even the mighty M8 was a POS when it came out. The MoCo didn't get the oiling system right untill 2020. And they have been building V-Twins for over 100 years. Gonna take a whole lot more than a UA-camr to make most of us feel any different. Best of luck on your trip. Good chance you will need it.
I know this is a year later. But you've found 3 people that agree with you. A million seems a long shot. And 300k miles on a few goldwings is nothing great. Honda has been known for reliability. And no one is gonna argue that. Unless we are talking civics transmissions between i think 2004 and 2007. Which break down often. Message. Take care of your bike. And it'll take care of you. If it's a lemon. Take it back. The company will exchange it. No matter the product.
@kerrymjacobs I couldn't care less how many people on UA-cam agree with me. If you like the kool-aid. By all means. Keep on drinking it. Millions have already learned that it is nothing but piss water.
Nice Video Big Guy... I Own A 2022 H.RGS And It's A Wonderful Experience To Ride... 🏍💨
Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
What go pro mount do you have on your bars on the left!! Got the same bike in blue. Safe travels!!
It's the GoPro arm mount by GoPro. Get the GoPro one though, not the generic. It makes a difference.
Just an fyi, the W in 20W-50 stands for winter not weight. Most people don’t know this.
Perfect example of why I take my vehicles to the pro’s. I have zero mechanical sense. Lol. Thanks for the info. 🤙🏻
Harley Davidson does not make oil .. Thicker oil will reduce engine noises..
I always tell people that are hardly haters. Every manufacturer has a service department for a reason they break down their machine.
Enjoy your ride..wish I could do a trip like that..
Have you ever left a svc dept without being 100% sure all work was completed?
Not yet. They always do a pretty good job going over the bike with me when they are through. Have you?
@@FullThrottleHOG Yes, I took my TG in for an OC and it sat on the rack for 3+ hours and never saw the svc dept do anything to it, but I did get the svc order saying work was done. That way if a warranty issue comes up, I'm covered. (Covered by the 5yr 20k mile pre-paid maint plan)
Passed thru SD Harley last weekend, drove down from OC
How comfortable are you splitting lanes on the Road glide ? Looking to upgrade my road king .
I have that same Simpson mod bandit and agree it’s kind of Loud, mine gives me headaches after a few hours , need to work on the liner.
Yeah Million Dollar Bogan is Legend am Australia and been watching him for some time now.
Great channel to watch...
With your synthetic oil are you running the thicker gear box oil?
Your trip should be good daily vlog will be a Great idea.
Stay Safe Peace
Vented dipstick and Amsoil solved my oil consumption problem.
That’s better traffic than 9 am in Boston. I’d kill for that little traffic
Whats your thoughts on HD bike alarm system? i had one fitted to my '05 Fatboy, and it crapped out... it would arm but wouldnt turn off. they fixed it a couple of times but in the end it was just too unreliable to dare use. thoughts? are they better now?
Quart of oil every 1500 miles is mind boggling.
I would never take a long trip after a Harley dealership inspected my bike!! Wow!! The only person that inspects my bike is me!!
I’m just not that good of a mechanic. Wish I was. Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
Was planning on a road glide for a while. Moved to the black hills where I’m around masses of HD’s on a regular basis. Not just the normal amount. And recently after seeing insane amounts of serious issues even on 2 year old CVO’s ….. I thought about it …. I’ve had only Hondas and KTM street bikes for the last 22 years. I have not even replaced a light bulb in 22 years. Not a single thing but oil changes and tires. Do I really need to deal with issues ? I think the terrible reliability of the HD’s is forcing me to get a gold wing.
Gold Wing is a great bike, but…It’s not a Harley. I’m 73k miles on my road glide with no problems. At the end of the day, riding a Harley has a different nostalgic feel that can’t be denied.
@@FullThrottleHOG Couldn’t agree more. But I’m just getting too old and too busy to swap motors in bikes , deal with battery issues , deal with all the number of things that break constantly that HD owners think is just normal maintenance. What I said isn’t an exaggeration. 22 years. 7 bikes. Not even a tail light. Not a dead battery , nothing. I still may get a road glide but I know I’ll then become like the rest of the crowd (I’ve owned several Harley’s in the past) who just down plays the reliability of these bikes. For the money it’s insane. Period. When other companies do the same style bikes with none of the problems.
I really wanted to own a harley but&$#@?. The price compared to other bikes like the star venture from yamaha you compate it on any level with a harley and in the end its actually better as an air cooled v twin than the harley. The name is not worth 15000$. After 22000miles only replaced the key fob battery and the battery along with tires. No seat or any other upgrades but add ons like more deflectors for summer riding. My backing off from harley was price and reliability. Harley guys that told me to stay away because of that if I dont have a budget for repairs. I think thats why most harleys probably only do the vfw and poker runs.
With all due respect, oil consumption is why I sold my 2018 ultra limited and will never own another HD product. Oil consumption with modern manufacturing capabilities is unacceptable and absolute BS when Harley says it’s normal. Go buy a Honda Goldwing and beat that crap out of it, it will not consume oil. I own an Indian and a Yamaha, neither consume oil. My two cents…..
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Audio is fine, even with any background noise
9:26 HAHA, for REAL!!!
The funniest shit i hear is when people say "I'LL NEVER....xyz" shit happens people, if it always happens, maybe theirs a problem, move on, if it happened to you once, or at one location...get over yourself, lol.
i run SYN for everything but the motor, still conventional and changing it 2500mi. Traveling on a Harley isn't anywhere near as "risky" as long as you have a phone lol.
I have 51.000 miles on mines. What about you??
They always tell you it's ok so they can push you past warranty. Just saying.
I did a google search of discover America motorcycle rally and didn't find anything, do you have a link?
Yeah man, it the Stubborn American Rally hosted by Adam Sandoval at the KRiver Campground. I do have a video of the event from last year on the channel if you’re interested.
Personally one minute enough for me
Thanks for watching Jim.
I GUESS YOU KNOW NOW THAT YOU CAN CANCEL THE RDS
True true.
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Harley Roadglides are reliable with a lot of maintenance or what I would call part retirement and replacement, not just oil changes. Honda Goldwings are reliable with standard maintenance and not a lot of parts changing. There is a lot brand loyalty and denial in the bike world for some reason. Both bikes need maintenance. A Harley needs rebuilt much sooner than most endurance models of just about any japanese brand therefore Harleys are not as reliable. I could call my car forever-reliable if I replaced the engine every 100k miles because it needs 'regular maintenance'. It's not hard to figure out why honda, yamaha and other bikes are much more prevalent around the world where they are people's only mode of transportation. They are more reliable.
Exactly. I’m not a Harley hater in the least bit but there’s a big difference between routine maintenance and repairs. Changing oil and tires is routine maintenance. Replacing engine parts is repair.
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Wind noise was intolerable!!!
Agreed.
I own a 2021 HD RGS. But please stop with all the “every brand has lemons, too”. Of course they do. But let’s not pretend like HD isn’t WAY down on the reliability list compared to other manufacturers.
You might want to fact check yourself on this one…
Million Dollar Bogan has bought like 15 New Harley Davidsons.. If you want to look at HD's with a lot of miles on them Check out the two Bikes that Adam Sandoval rode to every HD Dealer in the Continental USA,
If you want to talk about high milage and reliabiliyt Look at the Honda Gold Wing or Indian Challenger..
In years past HD had really crappy wiring that failed a lot. Plus had always had Ignition problems .. Compensator Problems .. sumping Problems oil pump failures ect...
With I supposed any full face Helmet you need the chin skirt in place..
I bought 2 brand new Harley's and they both sucked!!!! BOTH liked to go to the shop and stay in the shop, I was a dumbass for trying my luck on the second one. My 2nd. one even the speedo would fog up and rain inside of it so much for a 115 year anniversary model!
Same sh*t the speedo does on my 2018 Sport Glide. Irritating as hell. HD has a new model ending in a "B" part number and it still does it on humid days when having lunch and the bike is parked in direct sunlight. Problem not resolved, can't see fuel gauge, or miles remaining on the tank of fuel, either. At least my bike is not burning oil running the Syn 3 20w-50 in the engine. Run HD 75-140 in primary and gear box... Only stuff that makes it easy to find neutral at a stop.
What reliability I've had a 17 road king that blew a head gasket at 10,000 miles because of a scratch on the head from the factory. Had the gas cap seal fail and dump gas all over tank while riding in stugis. Had the clutch sensor go bad because i got caught in the rain. Bought a 20 road glide limited thinking i just had a lemon. That bike burnt oil from day one. They refused to rebuild it till 7k miles. It needed an entire top end by then. Within 4k miles had to go back in for valve stem seals now it only burn 2 quarts every 5k miles. Harley davidson says thats within tolerance. Now it rattles on start up because the timing chain tensioner sticks. Not a problem says harley davidson not gonna fix it under warranty. Now my heated grips only work intermittently as well. I have the maintenance service plan all maintenance is done on time by a dealership, and yes it's synthetic oil. There's no excuse in this day and age for a 30k vehicle to be in the shop 2to3 months a year.
Agreed that is a bum deal. As mentioned, no manufacturer will be perfect. My Honda was given to me without oil...like zero! Which, as you can imagine, caused headache for years. Hopefully things get better for you. Ride safe.
When I bought my 2020 Road King, I bit the bullet (even more) and bought the prepaid service plan. I've been running synthetic from the first oil change, and had no idea that the engine might be noisier. Thanks for pointing that out. I've also been having my bike serviced every 2500 miles, since it's already paid for, and I just had the 15K service done. Yeah, it's probably overkill, but I wanted to give myself the best chance for longevity as this is my first Harley and, at 68 years old, will probably be my last. Anyway, no problems with the bike so far, no plans for engine upgrades as the 107 has more power and torque than I need.
I have a 2021 RGL and had the 1000 mile service done at 900 miles with full synthetic. The engine sounds the same. The bike now has 2500 miles.
Got to Sturgis on Monday afternoon after a 1047-mile ride. Thursday night was headed home in a uhaul pulling my bike on a trailer. So much for my 60th birthday 3-week vacation in a cabin at Sturgis. 2018 Fortune Silver Electra Glide Ultra Classic with 48074 miles on it. Was heading from Custer to Black Hills HD doing 45MPH when the rear cylinder ACR= automatic compression release blew out of the head. The bike is still under warranty, but they were only doing brakes/ tire changes and oil changes- no warranty work. So, I headed home and the good folks at Gold Rush HD in Elko NV. got my "Penny" running again. Just got back from Reno Fall Street Vibrations and Tomorrow it's off to Vegas Hogs n Heifer's bike shows. Sadly, the Vegas Bikefest isn't happening for the 3rd year now.
Definitely not knocking Harley; I've had three. The last was a 2020 E Glide Standard. Nary a problem for the year I had it. Only thing that got me was maintenance. Three different oils? Just got ridiculous. Tires were expensive and dealer charge was insane. Plus, I felt I was limited in my riding. What's down that dirt road? Who knows. I ain't taking the 800 lb. beast down there.
Traded it for a Suzuki V-Strom 1050XT Adventure.
I'm happy.
As long as your happy, that’s all that matters really. Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
Have had 5 new Harleys never added oil to any of them between oil changes from 86 heritage to 21 roadglide all except roadglide had at least 50,000 miles now my shovels all used or leaked oil always kept a quart in the saddlebag’s
If you are coming from Ducati well
You hope it’s been checked out. It’s not difficult, learn to do your own services. That way your not trusting your life to someone else. Your the typical rider the dealer loves. Bring us your bike and money. We’ll do the rest.
Yup, I am. I’m okay with that.
Dope video 👑🏍💨
Thank you 🙏🏼. I appreciate you giving it a watch. Ride safe. 🤙🏻
Like the channel. I agree with perspective you have on Harley‘s , I have owned a Harley for 10 years and virtually have had no problems
Hello Steve and welcome to the channel. I appreciate you being here and hope you enjoy the content. More vids coming soon. 🤙🏻
Harleys are good. You might want to change the suspension on the newer models tho.
For sure, I run Pro-Action all the way around. Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
I've got a 2020 Road Glide Limited. Bought used with 4k miles on it. I started using Red Line in all three holes. I was using a quart every 1k to 1500 miles. Switched to Amsoil and I haven't burnt a drop.
I have a 19 RGS with 52K on it. Being a 19 model is still had the old/bad oil pump in it. I upgraded my cam to a Red Shift 468 so when I did that I added an S&S oil pump, cam plate and lifters and used a Power Vision to tune it, all courtesy of Fuel Moto so the warranty was voided pretty quickly. I have run Amsoil in all three holes since the 1K service and it hasn’t seen a Harley dealership since the 1K service. I do all the work on my bike myself and haven’t had any problems. It does appear that the 2020 oil pumps are much better my buddy has a 2020 RG Limited and he has had zero problems. I really wish I could be at the stubborn American but I just got back from a 3k trip through Colorado, didn’t plan that out very well. Be safe looking forward to seeing your vlogs from the party.
thats why u need a loud stereo u cant hear the ticks hahaha
🤣 that works too. 🤙🏻
Great vid. That’s some dealership. The events board is very cool. I have been watching Danny Hayes since his real estate auction vlogs and then of course into his bike vids. Great entertainment. Looking forward to your upcoming trip 👍
I always run HD 360. It’s all in the proper break-in of the motor, not necessarily how the MOCO says to do it. I just did a trip with a fresh oil change before I left. From Texas, to Montana, Utah, Idaho, Colorado and most of the parks. 12 days with some spirited riding, used about 1/2 quart in the whole trip of 3100 miles.
Nice! That sounds like an amazing trip. What bike did you do it on?
@@FullThrottleHOG 2021 Road Glide Limited with Stage 2 torque cam.
Great Video Ryan I have been running pure synthetic in all my bikes for years. I don't buy HD theory its ok to burn a quart every 1500 miles but that's HD covering their butts
I just road 20000miles in 9weeks and my 2022 Road Glide Ltd. With maintenance HD makes a great product.
Before I bought my 2019 HD RG (47K) I had a number of friends/family warning me about reliability issues after researching that issue I found a preponderance of HD riders had motor work performed. Many of the riders I would run into on road trips especially old folks were riding stock bike with well over 100k.
75,000kms on my 2018 FLTRU, has had all services done at or before service intervals. stage 2 with power cam at the 12k mark. I have never had to add any oil between changes, it's never been down less than 1/2 a litre.. I ride it to, it's seen the 6400rpm redline here and there. I use syn3 in all holes, after 1600km change. Would never use anything but.
A quart every 1,500 miles?? Lol. Thats not normal. Well at least for other brands of bike.
HD has ranked number 5 in the consumer index for reliability for a long time. Top 4 are metrics
Did synthetic oil help your oil burning issue?
Great Job and yes I feel the same about HD. Love my 21 TriGlide that I bought new 12 months ago. I will say my Service manager asked me to put Redline Synthetic in it. So that’s what I did, what a difference it makes in engine noise. Love my Redline oil and my Tri Glide.
Thanks Papa P. I appreciate you watching. Ride safe.
I ALWAYS ROCK FULL SYNTHETIC
I notice the bike runs a bit cooler with the syn 3. 👊🇺🇸
Thinner motor oil from slightly lower viscosity = higher oil flow / recirculation rates and a slightly lower observed oil pressure because of the increased oil flow rates to all engine parts. Usually temps will drop 10 to 20F observed. So that's the best benefit of a fully synthetic motor oil. Don't over heat it, and the additives stay in the oil and don't get roasted and cooked out of the oil causing the oil to become ineffective. Overheating any motor oil is bad for it. Don't run your bike really hard when it's hot out, slow down, take it easy, and lower your fuel consumption rate throttling bak and your oil will stay cooler.
I've owned 1Honda and 3 Harleys. Any problems with my HARLEYS have been of my own making
Agreed Bob. 🤙🏻 ride safe.
You're definitely right to go with synthetic. I've yet to have any major issues and that's all I run.
Good morning.
I'm new to your channel. Did you do a cam change? If so which did you go with? I'm considering the zipper 468
Welcome to the channel James. I hope you enjoy the content. I went with the torque cam from screamin eagle.
@@FullThrottleHOG thanks, I'll check it out
I bought a new 2019 street glide special in October 2018. I followed the break in guidelines and I get it serviced by Harley and I don't (for the most part) run it hard. In a couple of weeks, it's going in for its 60k service. It will have about 61k by the time I bring it in. I run syn 3 and haven't had any problems.
Reliability doesn't affect sales much because (most) modern HD buyers are old and very well off so toy money is not a problem. If it breaks, throw more money at it and install a bigger engine since it's a toy not a tool. For used buyers HDs being so easy to work on and having the biggest aftermarket of any brand more than compensates for any issues. For example I'm still fixing Twin Cam timing chain shoe problems because so many owners never heard of them, but the work is easy to DIY (any real motorcyclist is also a mechanic) so that doesn't hurt used sales. Despite all those roached engines HD sold everything it could produce in that era.
i will never buy another harley davidson. have a 2017 triglide and had the oil problem that harley knows that is a flaw in the build and to bad its your problem. so this non american company now can go to hell
I’d never 👎 live in Commiefornia!
Coming up with an exit strategy. I can't get out of here fast enough.
@@FullThrottleHOG Yes even the migrants don’t want to be there since they left a communist country with no electricity ⚡️ just like Commiefornia! Lol 😂
Great video appreciate your opinion and input !
It sounds Great Ryan.
Thanks for your input “ I’ve come to realize that all HD’ dealership’s are not created equal, but the reliability of the product are. Only one America” thanks for proudly displaying Her’
Thanks for watching Bernard and taking the time to leave some feedback. I appreciate ya! Ride safe.
All I can say is that I've put 30k on Ultra limited in 3 years. 3k on 6 day trip just last week bringing total mileage to 38k.
Only one issue, the thermostat crapped out at 10k. That's it.
& i didn't buy the extended warranty when i bought it.
I just stay on top of my maintenence.
My friends M109 with 16k - clutch crapped out on him last week.
If it's mechanical is going to break at some point.
You are spot on with the MDB. He runs them hard.
Totally agree. Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻