Porsche 944 Turbo - Fast Blast Review- Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2015
- The guys climb into a tuned 944 Turbo to kick off our new simpler-faster review series called “Fast Blasts”. As usual we enjoy some great mountain roads and talk about 944s in general as well as the changes this owner has done.
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Most underrated Porsche of all time
Daniel Maia Probably because it had a Volkswagen engine....
Many others had VW engines and were great engines, don't judge a engine by its badge
revolutionday1 M44 engine was all porsche. Are you thinking of 924 which had engine based on block of vw Van.
Yeah, word.
revolutionday1 You've been schooled.
I am the owner of the car. This video was fun to watch! It's always interesting to see someone else drive your car. I bought the car in september in Chicago and flew out to pick it up, and drove it back to Park City in a day and a half. Nebraska is long and boring.
The car has 145k on it, and has had the following work done to it after being picked up stock. I immediately did a full frontal reseal, new pulleys, water pump, thermostat, timing belt, etc. I have records of the clutch being replaced with the factory HD unit, and rear main seal, throw out bearing, etc... everything 20k ago. The car came with a folder full of receipts for work on it over the last 15 years. This winter I had the stock (original un rebuilt) turbo rebuilt by evergreen turbo. It is a k26/8 as opposed to the earlier cars k26/6 unit. While I was in there, I redid all the vacuum lines, the air oil separator seals, all hoses (heater hoses, heater valve, all coolant hoses), a vitesse maf+ kit with map sensor replaced the AFM, and came with larger injectors, 3 bar fuel pressure regulator, and i installed an Apexi avcr, and tial f38 wastegate to control boost. An AEM uego wideband keeps an eye on afrs.
The car has been improved since the guys drove it, it got a 968 m030 adjustable rear sway bar. Because the car came with the m030 package, the paragon adjustable ride height kit came with a mild increase of spring rate to 200lbs (stock was progressive to 180lbs). A bit of tuning work on the engine has fixed my idle issues (I had rebuilt the throttle body and the new seals needed to settle) and brought the afrs a little less rich.
A trip to the dyno is necessary to see how accurate my ass was when I pulled that hp number out.
Currently boost is dialed down to around 14psi for daily driving duties, with a quick touch to the scramble boost button and it will jump to 16psi for 2 minutes.
If it is sunny out, I drive it to work. It's fun.
I look forward to the future reviews in this segment, I agree with some of the other comments, I love reviews of older enthusiast cars more than the new ones, (but these guys are great at those too!)
pmcbrier I love your Porsche! I am in love with the styling and thank God that you got a manual! Good luck with it!
aquateen77723 the turbo was never offered with an automatic. Thank hand or someone in 80s Germany.
pmcbrier goddam autocorrect. Hans! Hans!
pmcbrier Love the car. thanks for the wright up.
fatboy19831 l0l
that's it, i'm buying a 944 (non turbo) as my first car, no doubt about it
Do it soon because their prices are going up. :)
well... i can't because i'm 16 (have to be 18 here) and my parents won't allow me to get one and i don't have the money.
How much are they? I saw one at walmart last night, beautiful.
sean craig
well, if you can fix stuff yourself you could grab one for 4 grand, but if you don't want constant electrical issues you should pay at least 8-10K.
well its been 2 years, got a 944 yet?
First off, I almost never comment on youtube videos. Second, I've been driving my 1985 Porsche 944 every day for over 16 years now. Well almost. It has broken down a several times over those years and I had to drive other piles of crap. I've driven this thing through insane winter blizzards. Crazy hail storms (golfball sized). Intense horrid railfalls.
I gotta tell ya, with the 50/50 weight distribution. This thing is a solid stone. I love this fucking car. It has cost me a fortune to keep on the road and I am poor as hell. I would love nothing more than to drive this car forever.
reznorfan25 best part is the paint, with light buffing it shines up looking brand new again
Amazing testimony.
My Porsche 944 was my favorite. 2 hour drive, Las Vegas to Los Angeles at 155 mph on 225/50s.
One guy says car "rolls in corners", other guy said it's "absolutely flat through corners". Who's right?
Perhaps it's the driver that's rolling
Haha yah I didn't see your comment but I wrote the same thing LOL. They do roll a bit compared to new shit. It's ok.
One is probably used to driving a car that rolls a bit more, and the other is used to less roll. That's my guess.
@Eddy Jean What?
me personally I love the 928 Porsche but, I have to say I'm still a big fan of the 944. It's a beautiful ride. My friend had one and I drove a Ford F-250 pickup which he's was always borrowing to do some work so, that left me driving his 944. Awe, poor me, lol.
i used to own a '83 944 for about 9 years and it was my daily driver. I've taken it on long road trips from coast to coast and the ride and gas mileage were bar none. it will always be my favorite car that i owned
The pure 80s aesthetics!
I've had 3 944 Turbo's. All 86 models. They were the lightest. My last one I bought had 38,000 miles on it. It was graphite metallic with no sunroof. Very rare. Unfortunately due to such low miles, after adding a few bolt on mods, I blew a head gasket and found a crack in a cylinder wall.
I had a 3 liter motor built with head work, exhaust, Rogue M Tune etc. the car had about 520 hp at the crank.
These cars are amazing. Light, very well balanced and fun to drive. No automation, just a pure drivers car.
Christopher Jacob sheesh 520 at the crank on a car like that must’ve felt insane
Christopher Jacob Wow I don’t think I have ever seen one with out a sunroof. That’s awesome.
Gio my 951 has 340 at the wheels and goes ok !!!😎😎😎😎😄😄 ua-cam.com/video/c7a9pwHLW5o/v-deo.html
just bought an 86 Turbo. LOVING IT ! All Stock. I have higher HP cars but the fluid feel of this car is just a feeling
Back when I was in college, I fancied trading my '91 Mustang GT for a little older 944 on the used car lot in my small town. One drive around the block quite literally knocked the sense back into me. The suspension was so rough (as you can see in the vid), that it was almost undriveable on anything other than super smooth track. Today, I'm enjoying my 228i very much, and it is sooo much easier to drive.
The 944 turbo is one of my favorite cars of the 80's. It has the power, look and performance. This is a car I would take to a weekend trip. Keep the good work, guys!!. A great video
I took european delivery of a 1986 944Turbo in August/1986 and it was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ! This video brings back so many memories and what an amazing Porsche !! Never got the accolades that it deserved.....but for us owners, it was lightyears ahead of the front-engined competition !!
First time I have visited (or rather discovered) EverydayDriver, but am now subscribed !!
We love you EverydayDriver!! Love the podcast, love the videos, and are excited for weekly content as well. This was a great review. I've always loved the 944 and on my list of "next cars" is a Porsche 944 that I can put a V8 into of some kind. Hope you guys have something planned for 100,000 subscribers!!! :D
EDIT: Just read the owner's description of this car. So it has only 200lb springs in it. Waay too soft and why one of the reviewers found it had too much roll. Some years back I ran KWs with 650lb front and equivalent 710lb rear for a couple of years on road and track. That car was on rails but the KW's have such good valving that you can have your cake and eat it too. It was still totally comfortable on the road. His car also has the old K26/8 turbo which can be improved upon clearly. He could contact Vitesse Racing and get one of their matching turbos. Not cheap but work well and are bolt on. There are other options out there too. Doesn't detract from the driveability of these car for a still largely street application.
333pg333 Hahaha my mountain bike has an 850 lb spring in the rear 😂
The 944 turbo is definitely on my list of cars to own before I die. I love this car. Great review!
ODC DATSME it’s a lot of car for the money. There’s a 944 turbo S by me for sale. Very templated it’s rose silver color
I love to drive mine !! Check it out !!!😎😎😎🇩🇪 ua-cam.com/video/c7a9pwHLW5o/v-deo.html
Excellent review! I always liked the 944 & 944 Turbo. I actually saw a 944 Turbo driving next to me about a month ago with what must have been a brand new paint job. The car just looked incredible! I had to give the guy a thumbs up. He waved back to me :) Even today, I still think the 944 is great design and awesome looking machine. Thanks for the great video guys!!
Chris'sVids79 thats the fun thing about porsches it was probably the factory paint.. they use a single stage paint that you can easily buff back to a shine with a little work
Great as always guys. Nothing makes me happier than seeing a new video up on this channel. Best car channel on youtube!
I just started watching EverydayDriver vids mostly for the Fast Blast Reviews and I must say these vids are nicely done! I like the honest opinions PLUS it seems like there is a HUGE lack of idiots leaving dumbass comments! HURRAY!! Keep up the great work guys!! I love these 'older' Porsches especially the 928's! Cheers
Mark Keller - We're very glad you found us and enjoy what we do! We saw you left a few other comments as you've been catching up on our work. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your thoughts. We've got lots more on the way, and we read all the comments. Thanks again!
I have an 1986 944 N/A that is a absolute blast. Got it for 4k and haven't put much into it. Great weekend car!!!
Outstanding work guys. Definitely super high quality for a weekly video. Keep it up.
Excellent video as always, can't wait to see more of this exciting series!
I had a 1986 Porsche 951(944 turbo) bought with 78k miles owned it for 16 years sold it in 2007 with 232k miles. Virtually problem free. Tires, brakes, timing belt coil overs that’s it. Original Clutch. Paid $9500 for it drove it forever and did it for $7800. I did chip it when it had around 150k miles and it was much better. Weltomaster chip good for 280hp they claim. I really Wish all the time I would have kept that car. I look around for nice ones but, their all Beat to shit or Over priced. Like $16k.
I have such Great memories in that car. I drove that car everyday except in Snow. That Porsche outlasted two marriages hahaha. Don’t make them like that anymore.
Hell yeah man. Thanks for reviewing this! I had a '86 944 back in highschool and absolutely loved it!
I am super excited about the weekly fast blasts; thanks for making them happen! I would love to see Paul and Todd debate the merits of each car face-to-face like you do at the end of your comparison videos.
Thank you, just what this channel needed!
This is a fantastic review of the 944 Turbo and a great place to drive it. It's really spot on about how the car prefers going fast. The 944 has a ton of character. Also to note is the braking on the 944. It's excellent.
This video is one of the reasons why I started to like the 944, which eventually lead me into buying one a couple months ago- a 1986 Turbo. I really enjoy the car and am making videos about it, so I have you guys to thank.
Love that u guys are putting out this series
Keep these types of reviews coming. Its different. They are only a couple of guys doing tuned and older car reviews. I like it. Very well done.
I just last week bought a 951 (86 model) that the PO installed a Lindsey racing upgrade kit in. At 15 PSI this thing will just shove you back in the seat and take off at 70 MPH in 4rth gear! It is intoxicating! Is it a hell cat? No, it is a refined high speed road car not a drag car. Completely different animal. I love it!!
Love the 944, great job guys!
Oh wow. I had the 944 S2 Cabriolet and it was amazing. Great proportions, amazing traction with the transaxle. And the biggest 4 cylinder ever made. Beautiful.
This is good times! Thanks, Paul and Todd!
I always loved that style of porsche! In the early 80s that was one of my favorite car. And still looks beautiful even today!😎👍
Awesome! I am super excited to see weekly content and look forward to your podcasts as well. I'd love to see you guys do an Evo VIII or IX RS as it's bare bones raw.
I love these vids... keep 'em coming!
Awesome car and great review, thank you!
I have an 89 944s 2.7 and I love the damn thing. Out of all the cars I have driven from working at a dealership, this is just an amazing car especially for how old it is. It definitely stands out among cars that are driving down any road! Never going to sell it!
Keep it. The engine 2.7 is also rare.
Also really like this idea for the video. I'm all for quick "blasts" to show what a car is like to drive, not all cars will require a 30min video to do them some justice. As others have said, I see similarities to other channels in concept, but you've done it right!
As for the boost coming on at 3000 I have a 1986 944 turbo with a Lindsey racing dual port waste gate and a manual boost controller. If you nail the throttle at 3000 and keep it pinned it will come on very strong...if are hesitant and roll on the throttle slowly it will come on more slowly.. Just a function of the setup...Drive it like you stole it and it will reward you!!
Subscribed! Love it! Takes me way back. Thanks
This is my first ever comment on UA-cam and I have used the app for 3 yrs. I really like where you guys are going with this!!!
I would love to see this channel do an E39 video. I would really enjoy hearing what you have to say about it. I would offer up my 2002 540i if it wasn't an automatic! Excellent video once again.
Great video, guys. I have an '83 Porsche 944 (non turbo) and you touched upon pretty much everything I love about owning this car. Even as a non turbo, mine is quick and nimble with plenty of power. For a thirty year old car, the 944 is also quite the head turner, and I feel that its styling can hold its own against any modern car you put it up against-- even the modern Porsches.
Inspired by Matt Farah haha not a problem I love these videos and now two sources pumping them out with you refining the style I am sold!
oscar trujillo This is the same style of video that Matt Farah shoots, but I think Paul, and Todd did a better job with the different outside camera shots.
Ross H I agree this one is more refined. That being said I enjoy both of them
Not inspired by Matt farah lol people have been doing car reviews and quick car reviews like this for years
miles swammi Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
miles swammi yes you are right people like thatdudeinblue, regular cars and so on but at the end of the day they are on an amateur level. Smoking tired and these guys are more professional and seeing them review other people's car instead of straight from the factory gives a different perspective.
Change it out to some good KW shocks. Replace the old rubber bushings with some monoballs from Racers Edge and change out the old stock sized wheels and run 10" all round with some 275/18" Nitto Nt01's...that transforms the car a LOT. The car in the Video has at least a Vitesse Maf kit, if not one of their turbos. These are a totally undervalued car and somewhat frowned upon by the 911 community. Can be made quicker than a modern GT3 and for some, even quicker than a modern Cup Car. Plenty of videos on UA-cam as examples.
My father-in-law has an '87 944 Turbo that he has turned into a fantastic track car. I imagine this car feels much the same.
Opening this video on the 944 with exactly 944 likes made me a very happy person. The sad part is I'm avoiding hitting the like button... somehow it seems almost disrespectful.
I am glad you guys decided to create this new series, i feel like it will become as famous as the one takes Matt Farah does, and to be honest id rather watch these cars than Ferrari's and Lambos because these cars are actually accessible to normal people. I hope you guys will keep this series going and upload often.
Love my '90 S2. This review seems pretty much bang on. Steering is full of feel, not initially twitchy off center. On some low speed corners you do need maybe more input than what you'd expect but it really isn't a big detractor to the car whatsoever. Drive mine pretty much the same as this guy, pretty much everyday in the summer as long as it's nice out.
Great review EverydayDriver! Find us a 928 to review please!!
I've got a 968 (final iteration of the 944) race car that I've been running for more than 10 years, and the car is crazy balanced and quick for a four banger. It's so much fun to pull past folks with they're fancy new hardware at tracks like Sears Point in this old beastie, because most of the younger guys have no clue what these cars are all about.
I live in Utah and am looking at a 944 on KSL. my current car is a Corolla and I want something fun and initially cheap(the one I'm looking at is about 4-5 grand). I realize parts are expensive but do y'all think it would be a good car to work with and (ideally) daily?
Awesome - always wanted to own one of these. Great stuff and can't wait to see what's next,,,
People seem to forget that the 944 platform was tested at the crucible of Lemans after it's mundane beginnings. A properly tuned 944 is a track weapon.
Think about this, out of a gigantic field of cars the 924 GTS race cars finished 12th overall at Lemans, not in their class, but overall against GT1, GT2, GT3, LMP, Prototypes! Astonishing.
The 944 platform is criminally underated and that's now changing with their value beginning to rocket for well kept examples. About time!
Respect!
Great stuff guys as mentioned Matt Farah has been doing similar and I think they are fantastic for us enthusiasts. I really enjoyed the coverage and am looking forward to more.
jaynen Yep, this reminds me a lot of Farah's One Takes, except edited. Looking forward to more.
I had a 944 Turbo. Platinum with the turbo logo on the top of the fender on the hood. Cream leather seats. A wonderful car to drive..
Would love to see you guys do a piece on the Porsche 928s4. There are plenty around in Cali. In fact, if you're interested in reviewing a clean 5 speed I would gladly lend you mine for a day. :)
“Just look at this thing” on 0:43 😂 NEEDS TIRES!!!
Besides that, I love it!👍🏽
Great stuff. You have great video quality, as well. You should check out a 98 STS, would be great to see a review of that... Cheer's
My dad had a Black 1987 944 Porsche in the late 90's. Always stuck with me how cool it was then. So, I knew what I had to have in High school. My first car was a Guards Red 1987 944 Porsche w/ over 44k orginal miles. Drove it daily for 5 years and into college. Then got a BMW 645ci and now a BMW 650i. Love my car now but STILL miss it time-to-time and will consider having a Black Turbo model one of these days..
I'm going to love fast blast; modern car reviews of older cars. Love 80's/90's cars.
My dad owned one some time back and it got us from the outskirts of San Antonio to Houston Hwy 6 and 290 in about 2 hours.
His had an inconspicuous future built into the front grill to watch for the “Kojak with the Kodak”. I think our top speed was 156 while averaging somewhere around 90+
I love this new format, and the car was interesting, I like when people tune their cars and keep it looking somewhat stock. let's see if you guys can get in one of those crazy tuned miatas I'm contemplating one right now
So nice the idea u got two guys giving theire opinions on the same car
Excited and hope to see many more great affordable cars that you can actually own and drive hard
For the relatively inexpensive 8-10k buy in price not only is it a Turbo. But it's a Porsche. :) I think as far as late 80's Porsche goes i'd rather have the 928 but the 944 is much more likely to be attainable.
Love the new series!
Love this concept! have been dying for a youtube channel to do a whole bunch of these types of cars. Would love to see not heavily modified cars like:
E30 325i/318is
Mercedes 190e
VW Mk1 gti/Mk2 gti
Mazda RX7
Nissan R31,32,33 skylines
Toyota supra (not modded to hell)
Subaru's early WRX's
Audi quattro's
and so forth....
I would also love to maybe see you guys somehow get a hold of a simple track & drag strip and do some numbers on them much like the Motor Trend guys do with there head to head.
Great stuff though!
It looks exactly like my 89 944 Turbo S, I miss it, Amazing Car & performance, costly to maintain, but well worth it!
After built my 944T I had 420HP. Was a lead sled below 4K RPM but the power to weight ratio was great. Had so much fun with this car...
I hope I'm not the only one but I'd love to see what you guys think of the eclipse gsx, or gst.
I just wanted to point out how much I enjoyed watching this video. As someone who is seriously looking at the 944's as an entry "Porsche" it was great to see what you can achieve with a 25+ year old car. I am certainly looking forward to a follow up video.
That is Porsche engineering and design. Timeless.....
Great video and I would love to have a 944.
Two car requests: an NA Miata and a Z3 M Coupe :)
I like these type of old car reviews.
Love the new video, of course I am biased, I own the same car :-)
Keep up the great vids!
I'm swapping to a manual steering rack due to the power steering always leaking and killing my bushings underneath. Not sure if it handles better but it makes working on it a lot cleaner
Manual rack has an even slower ratio
Can't wait to see more videos good job guys
What an original idea...good job Matt!
Shocker Paul is in love with the car. I'd say he should get one of the more affordable options from the previous car debate and supplement with a classic Porsche.
Do it Paul. 2 cars!
Saw one today. I was interested
Love 944's Very comfortable cockpit, everything is where it should be. For my frame size it fits me like a glove.
Fuchs 15/16' rims (as those you could see on most 911) were superbly fitting the 944 body.
Alas mine was sporting the stock alloy wheels:(:(
I was used to drive a 944T 220hp, a preowned
regularly serviced car in an awesome platinum metallic / dark brown leather combo.Then I got spacers mounted so as to visually filling the gap between tyres and the beautifully flared wheelarches.It truly looked gorgeous,still having its sober elegance fully preserved.Or was my daydriver (as most Porsche cars were) and,being fair,allowed fast cruising on our long highways as much as my previous SC and Carrera 3.2 did, yet being way more comfortable eventhough not as exciting.
I guess 944 possibly was ahead of its time,yet it sold decently and as far as I can see a number of enthusiasts are still around.
Ive had my 944 turbo for 4years now and i never get tired of driving it. And it turns heads and gets compliments all the time. You just cant beat it for the price.
I'd always liked the 944 and the turbo when I was in college. The 944 was in the movie "Pretty In Pink" back in the 80's. Now, I have a few Porsches. One of my collection is gen 2 GT3 RS. By the time I could afford a Porsche, neither the 944 and 968 in production. Thanks for showing this video, I still like the look of the 944 turbo. It looks good in black body paint. Great driver's car. 50/50 weight balance distribution. 928 is the big brother GT sport coupe.
My dad had two of these when I was still a child. I just loved the 944 - always reminded me a bit of Knight Rider somehow. And it was so big. We fit in two adults, my sis and I in the back, plus our dog and a lot of technical equipment in the trunk. I always dreamed of this being my first car. When I got my license at 18 (in Germany you had to be 18) there were some old used 944's available but the insurance for one year would have cost me more than the car itself. So in the end, I wasn't able to afford one. :(
+falc410 wHY ARE YOU CARRYING TECHINICAL EQUIPMENT?? OH WAIT , I SEE YOU ARE GERMAN...NEVER MIND.
+rbanalog My Dad is a veterinarian. So he always had to bring his mobile clinic stuff along just in case.
Great series!
Totally underrated car ....never wanted one but brother convince me to buy one...ended up having 2 944S and a Turbo...both nice cars...sometimes I enjoy it more then the 911
I purchased a new 1979 911SC off the showroom floor (I'm 53 years old - yeah, I was really young for a car like that, but hey -- I knew what I loved even back then, and I had a co-signer), so I'm definitely down with old Porches. Other cars I'd LOVE to see you guys do: The '79ish Datsun 280z, the Triumph TR8, a '78ish RX-7, an Alfa Romeo Veloce Sprint Quadrifoglio, and... (don't laugh) a Merkur XR4Ti. (I love all these cars for various sentimental reasons - the Merkur XR4Ti, I would have to say, was the greatest sleeper car of its half-decade. Just a fantastic car, with a level of fit and finish that was competitive with BMW and Mercedes, and a real blast to drive. I'd love to see you guys give a shout-out to that car. Again, thanks for videos!) You guys should come up to my neck of the woods and drive the road from Palm Desert up to Idyllwild - that's my happy place. Btw... I'm shooting with Nikon, watching my shows (and washing my clothes) on a Samsung, sitting at an IKEA desk, drinking a Santa Ynez Syrah, typing this on a Mac, but still driving German today.
Those lines are beautiful & timeless 👍😍
As an owner of a 1987 944S and a 1994 968, I can say these cars are fantastic. Maintenance costs can get pricey but well worth it.
can you guys review the lexus sc400 :D
finally, a 944!
I like the new format. It reminds me of the smoking tire's one take videos.
Great series. For those of us who may want a 3rd car, something fun, but ou first name isn't "Sheik". I appreciate coming back to basics: those cars that are fun because we just like them. Or grew up with them and now have the scratch to buy them. Looking forward to more. Great films (well done with sound and images)
These guys really know what they're talking about. Subbed
Bought a 944 Turbo new in '87. Alpine white/burgundy leather and white BBS wheels. It was a great car. I wish I had known the Turbo S was coming out in '88 though. I would have waited even if it only came in 2 colors to the US.
do you guys think you'll ever do the 1984 Ford Mustang GT Turbo? I can't seem to find any good videos on it.
I miss my 87. Great horsepower with Porsche Turbo Cup chips and a rammed through catalytic converter. An absolute monster. And it got a sticker every year, no problem!
You guys should do a review on a late 80s turbo supra with some bolt on parts it transforms into a great handling rocket! Big turbo on a straight 6 with a open exhaust pulls really hard when the turbo spools up!! I have owned 4 of them now and I can't stop driving them, it's a unique experience and you don't see a lot of them on the road where I live.