Raspberry Pi 5: The Game Changer? Discover What's New!
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- The Raspberry Pi is a beloved tiny computer that has revolutionized DIY computing, education, and hobbyist projects around the globe. If you're curious what the Raspberry Pi Foundation has in store with their new release, you're in the right place! In this video, we dive deep into the Raspberry Pi 5, exploring all its new features, upgrades, and capabilities that set it apart from its predecessors.
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00:00 - Intro
01:09 - ThinLinc
02:40 - Simularities between the Pi 5 and earlier models
03:31 - The BCM 2712 CPU is brand new and Exclusive
04:18 - The RP1 chip handles I/O and provides PCIe
05:03 - Power supply requirements have changed in the Pi 5
06:08 - Understanding why "Low Power Mode" Happens
07:57 - You may need new cables
09:09 - Cooling your Raspberry Pi 5
09:51 - Official Raspberry Pi 5 Accessories
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Pi5 8GB + cooler + power adapter + case + NVME adapter + NVME will be more expensive than a mini PC with similar spec.
It's not about the cost but rather the learning that you get. It's like a learner starter kit for mini pc building - it's clearly geared at introducing people to build miniature electronics from scratch. If you already know and are experienced then yeah it's not really worth it, but that's the case with all such learning kits.
True, but reduce the spec to 4gb ram and SD card or usb3.0 storage. Then the price is a bit more palatable
If you buy it like that, then it is in my opinion not very clever. I only bought the Pi5, a 6€ mircoSD card and a 11€ case+fan. That's all. I am using a old no-name 3A power supply. And all is running fine.
Why should i buy and extra cooler, if it is already included in the case? And why should i buy a NVME adapter and disk? I will never notice the speedup in my use case.
In my opinion your variant is like buying an Intel Pentium CPU and but it in a big tower with an GeForce 4080 OC. Yes, there might be rare cases where that is useful. But in most cases it is not a clever combination.
@@EfHaichDee I would argue that the pi pico/picoW is a better candidate for learning.
It's not that bad, after some time there is many alternatives and very cheap Chinese bundles for pi5. We started with nvme hat more expensive than pi5 4GB, now same thing starts at $5 at ali and some have set with cooler, fitting case power adapter. Also you can fit pi5 to many cases from pi3 :)
Its just better than two months ago when everything labelled by pi5 was so expensive.
I bought 3 x Raspberry Pi 3B+ 5 years ago and still using them for home projects. These boards are great. Thanks for the overview of Pi 5.
At that price it doesn't make any sense to buy it. Just by a N100 mini pc
Unfortunately it is true.
They can not keep up with demand, so they must do something N100 can not.
Why don't Western manufacturers make n100 mini pcs? Only Chinese
the N100 is MASSIVE compared to the PI, you can't fit the n100 on a wall, or on a rack, or on a grid.
@@llortaton2834 I agree. It’s MASSIVE!!! Almost like a mainframe….
The RPi is no longer a competitive device. Back when it was first introduced, It was revolutionary; it brought SBC price into the range of a microcontroller board (like the Arduino).
Today, Arduino's are replaced by a $5 ESP32. And an 8GB RPi5 (with case, power supply, NVMe and daughter board) cost more than a fanless N100 with 8GB RAM, dual 2.5Gb interfaces, 256GB NVMe, case, and power supply included (about $160). And the N100 is X86_64 and twice the performance. You're free to run any off the shelf x86_64 OS; Windows 11, Linux, a router OS, whatever.
I loved RPi; I've bought several, and still run an RPi4 as a Wireguard termination for our LAN. But I don't plan on buying any more. Times have changed, and with that the price/performance equation has tilted to low-cost x86_64 hardware.
It was really fun and seeing your sponsor, warms my Linux heart when it comes from Sweden and Linköping where I am daily. We use ThinLinc ourselves on a large scale where I work.
good recap. Just ordered my pi 5 with the accessories mentioned.
Another great video! I especially loved, "Your Pi 5 will provide you with more power... As long as you provide it with more power." You have a very personable, friendly style. It's like having a friend over for the afternoon to talk shop about Linux and Linux devices. Keep up the good work!
New connectors, new power supply, sounds like Apple 😀But good to see progress and a power button. I'm really tired by building DIY power buttons for my Pis. But big issue is the missing audio jack.
Great Video! Kind of hard to love the pi5 with all the competition and raspberry pi execs all but abandoning makers. Also your outro music has no business going that hard.
competitors
Thank you very much for your hard work!
I bought all the Raspberry Pi models up to the Pi4, I bought the Orange Pi 5 and Orange Pi5 Plus though as the specs are much better, I use them for retro gaming emulation consoles, and the older Rpi models for Pi hole and I run my own email server on a Pi4, I used to run Octoprint for my 3D printers on a Pi3 but changed over to an Orange Pi Zero 2 W as it runs faster and freed up my RPi 3 for the Pi hole.
I would have bought the RPi5 if it was available with more and faster RAM.
What software/packages are you using for your email server?
What was once attractive about the pi in general was the low cost. Now they are pushing it into the low end computer arena running linux and it's very capable at that. The problem is this... I can buy a fully encased mini-computer with ssd storage, etc... windows installed if I want to bang my head on the wall... wifi, bluetooth et al for around the same price as an 8G pi 5 with power supply, heat sink, fan and case... without any ram. They've priced themselves out of the market as competition in the mini-computer market has driven fully functional and usable computer prices down. So, the pi 5 is mostly usable for hardware experimentation and has reached overkill.
I received a Pi5 from my son for Christmas and haven't looked back. My desk is now free of a PC. I have been using this little guy as my daily desktop since Christmas and besides not being able to compile for my 3D printer's firmware, it has been basically trouble free. Tonight I am hooking up my second monitor (had to wait for my micro-HDMI cable) so we'll see how that goes.
I've been looking all over for how to add a NVMe hat so I can use some speeder sotrage than the SD card I have been using. The NVMe hats I have read about have more drawbacks than sticking with the Micro SD card for now.
Finally, I hope the smart guys in the Arch world (and their distrobutions) will get them over to the RPi 5 so I can go back to my Operating system of choice (Arco Linux).
Thank you very much for your detailed evaluation of the Pi5. I have watched other reviews and they never covered the things you reviewed. Thanks for the heads up. Your other reviews and training are also excellent. Keep up the fantastic videos you provide. They are much appreciated.
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Running Home Assistant on my RPI 4 and Pihole on my RPI5. Really looking forward to official POE Hat for RPI5. Saves space on the desk and don't have to run extra cable de.
Will get one soon.
What does the [0] mean between your user and machine in the terminal?
Is pi 5 for general use like browsering the internet? Can it do stuff like 2d animation rendering kind of thing. Sorry I'm just a beginner.
If you have an "unofficial" power supply that can provide 5A, you can set usb_max_current_enable=1 in the /boot/firmware/config.txt file to tell it so.
And You will get not much more because 5A does not mean 5V5A. Pi5 supports only 5V and that clearly break pd standard where You suppose to think about watts. Almost none of chargers will be capable today of such mode which btw require thick usb-c cable.
This param will try to increase power for usb and external devices (via pcie) but will fail for most of use cases because you will be still at 5v3a at best.
Disagree...
Laptops are all transitioning to the USB-C standard, and finding larger power bricks are becoming more plentiful as a consequence.
Using a PI5 as a media center with 120TB (yes, TB) of online storage and also a PI4 CM as a router/WiFi Hotspot
i bought the Official case in Singapore. One thing i hate is, it does not come with 4 screws to hold the Pi5. What are they thinking? i hav to use 2 x cable ties to hold the opposite side of the board. Simple things, they cannot get it right. i did not use that fan. i went with the Offiical Active cooler.
Great shirt :D
Jay! What are you running on your pi cluster?
Raspberry Pi abandoned the maker community for 3 years. Sorry, but I'll never buy another one ever again. Plus, RPi = proprietary. Let's support open hardware the same way we support open software.
Great video! Please do a review of Diet Pi OS. Thanks!
Wondering what the best option is if I wanted to power a 4xPi 5 cluster?
Pi 5 compute modules are in the future.
I'm using a pi5 with an nvme drive as a desktop computer. I'm even running the Gnome desktop env on it. It's a great little tool.
I just upgraded from Pi 3b to 5, and just moving from 100mb Ethernet to 1gb, and SD card from 32gb to 256gb is worth the upgrade. Also you can see a better performance overall when doing ssh.
I always thought it was the RP1 that was designed in house - still quite an achievement.
did you get a new background, I like it
He has a new studio
I made the power supply mistake, thinking I have I USB-c Dell laptops and enough USB-C fast chargers: You live and learn :)
Wonder if the aluminium active cooler affects the wifi signal at all?
Not in my experience.
Is that like a mini computer? And, a great amazon deal at about 100$ which 3x Inspiron 530S system which could be had off ebay 35$ 40$ :) Unless you need something light for a robotoid. I think official PSU is 220w
If you take the purchase power of today’s currency vs when the p4 released into account. It works out to the same if not cheaper.
"RiP Raspberry Pi 2024 👈." There is too many better alternatives as of 2024.
Which do u recommend?
An N100 mini PC. About $160 at Amazon. Includes fanless case, 8GB RAM, 256GB NVMe, dual 2.5Gb Ethernet, and power supply.
@neta Agreed. Although my Amazon must have me in the goya bracket with higher prices :) Might as well get miniPC.
Still patiently waiting on the Pi5 POE hat.
The easiest way is just to enable the max power support by modifying the file and using an old power supply. Or installing an other OS, since other OS don't disable the USB power by default. I am using a 3A power supply and it is running fine. I even know a guy that is using a 2A only without problems.
Does it really have cryptography extension? finally?
Yes, that is this up to 20x faster than pi4. Competition have implemented ARM crypto engine about 5 years ago :)
Really nice overview. Excited to see if I can get Android running on it. Otherwise Ubuntu Server it is.
Yes android works, also fydeOS.
@@-someone-. Full blown? Can I install Full apps and use them like it's a phone?
@@T4505. yes. Leepspvideo did a video recently.
@@T4505.Well yes but its too big to call it a phone and it has no battery
Also, since it uses arm architecture there is more apk you can install compared to x86
I'm waiting for my Pi5 to arrive to be my new Kodi media center. I need more CPU and GPU power for higher resolution video.
You forget the VPU. They dropped most video decoders. There is only a hardware decoder for h265.
You're keeping your shirt in the wrong directory. Probably /usr/share/shirt would be a better location. I'd personally keep it in my home/Downloads directory
I have a number of Pi projects, a zero runs an ads-b tuner plus server to view data, another runs a personal VPN and Pi-Hole. Another stores and serves videos across my network and two connected to older TVs making them effectively smart TVs. Best I currently have is a 3B+
I am running Ubuntu and Android 14. I am using it to replace my desktop and lower my power bill.
The zero 2w is now far better value for projects that really just need gpio. For actual mini server use the pi 5 is pointless and too expensive, I'd much rather go x86 and get proper io
Cortex A76 is old....why didn't they use A78
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When someone can make a 12-12 volt in power converter that will satisfy this low power mode i may go back to the Pi. Not useful for no A/C power applications.
Great video and channel. Subscribed. Pi 5? NOPE. Priced out of my range. Developing the Pi into a fully-fledged computer defeats its original objective IMHO.
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In my opinion it should have been 8 cores like orange pi 5
6:22 So RP had an entire generation to fix their broken USB-C power implementation and they STILL screwed it up?
I’m freaking done with them at this point. I’m not going to be burned twice by this company’s inability to implement proper power standards.
Not to be rude but shouldn't that shirt be /dev/shirt ?
Bleh. That's bad engineering on the power supply side to not properly handle the 99% case of how USB-C PD power supplies work.
They clearly wanted to force everybody to buy their own power adapter. This is just hidden cost.
They use Usb PD but its 5V 5A / 5.1V 5A (25W/27W), a really weird choice by raspberry pi. Some speculate that because of the weird specs make it cheaper for them to use usb pd implementation, while I think that its because they still want to use 5V like all their pi lineup for whatever reason.
Yep, this is the last straw for me. If you can’t do power input correctly you probably shouldn’t be in the hardware business…
no!
I have absolutely NO NEED for an SBC, I have a Pi 3B+ I don't use for anything, as it's only the 1Gb RAM version, so rather useless for most things. It was bought to run a 3D printer software, for a printer I still haven't bought, and probably never will. The Pi 5 for me would be around $200AUD when I include the PS, Cooler, Case(either with the cooler or not at all, as there doesn't appear to be a case big enough to take the board with the big cooler yet, but I'm sure someone is building a version in CAD as I type). It's still fairly cheap, but is it a better option than some of the OTHER SBC's on the market now. I would only be buying it as a LAB TOY, and have no real need of either this or any other SBC.....DOES NOT STOP ME WANTING ONE THOUGH !!!!! I'd rather spend my money on shit for myself while I'm alive than have it go into consolidated revenue when I die....NOW, time to go shopping !!!
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I hate the new direction for rp. It was a 35$ board for entchusiasts and children in poor countries. Now its get the board, nothig is enough to power it, so buy this or buy that. Better to buy a chinise knockoff or a full size computer based on requrements for projects
Your review of raspberry pi 5 is late by a few months, you should have done it at the release time
Raspberry Pi 5 new?! Several months out on the market already. Wake up, please.
Exactly, everybody interested already have it with one of about 10 nvme top/bottom hats. Also there is already poe+ extension as well as little extenders that will connect old poe hats wit new poe header locations.
This video is clearly dejavu from about november year ago when first pi5 were delivered as well as nvm hats were announced :)
Can't watch this guy with all the hand movements, it's like his mouth is moved by his hands.