How to fix a KTM 1290 LC8 gearbox. Part 1.
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2021
- There's a KTM on the bench and it's not happy, it won't go into gear correctly so it's up to Dave to fix it.
In part 1 Dave strips the engine out of the bike and delves into the engine to find the problem.
Normally, if this happened to any bike of mine, I would have it fixed and then just sell it.... never to buy that brand again.
But to be honest, the bike is so much fun and more insane than anything I've ever owned. I can't bear to part with it.
The electronics are shit. The gearbox design is shit. The finish on the tank is shit. Etc etc.
But despite it being very expensive to fix (far more reasonable thanks to Dave... cheers dude 👍) I have no intention of getting rid of it. I love it.
I spoke to the head tech at a main dealers and he'd never heard of it happening before. So it's a rare occurrence. I was just extremely unlucky. And I ride like a dickhead.
It's now back on the road and is just as much fun as before.
Big thanks to Dave who did a mega job and even welded and painted the sump guard. Cleaned it all too.
P.S: KTM Superduke 1290r for sale. Just had full engine rebuild........ 🤦♂️😂😂😂😂
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Had the same thing happening with my Gen2
Currently happening to my 2019 SAR
Anyone even realize who this guy is ? ..Isle of Man Legend..
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I could put the bike on the paddock stands, take the seat off and then that's it .....🤔 Well done Dave .....👍
Bloody awesome Dave!
Good informative video, wish i had the knowledge to do jobs like that, would save a lot of dealer prices 👍
The same thing happened to my 2003 SV650 back in 2007, managed to get a 2nd hand gear box internals for £35 from a mate in Scotland from his old blown-up engine. when I put the engine back together I had the selector miss placed and only had 4 gears, so had to strip the whole bloody thing down again and rebuild it.. but it's still going so the guy says who I sold the bike on to 2 years later :) .
what a shame for the owner, But an absolute treat for your Viewers
Wow, just shared this with my 4 mates who have 1290 KTM’s.
LOL - I've a 1290 and I'm praying I'll never need to reference this video, but going on my bikes track record so far, I've saved the vid to my favourites....
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excellent upload, shame about that gearbox though! i bet that sounded/ felt nice when that crunched into gear? ouch!!
I like well engineered machinery , and that's NOTHING like well engineered machinery !
It's one crappy circlip...
Hi guys, sadly I am in the same boat. My 1190 Adventure R has a broken gearbox. Therefore, I have to undertake this repair. Would you guys mind sharing the list of parts you ordered from KTM? Would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hello. Great video... I have one question.. Which side to thread...right hands or left hands? I bought a 35mm X 1.5 Rh Internal Flywheel Puller M35 Right Hand Thread .. and it didn't fit me... as if the thread is on the wrong side. Thank you
Respect
You seem to be getting quite good repairing these cheese like gearboxes
Glutton for punishment more like!
So, in your opinion Dave, what would have led to the circlip breaking in the first place ?. Would the quickshifter have helped it on its way ?. Sooner you than me doing that job , excellent video too.
The owner is quite enthusiastic and the shifter kill times were set quite short so they both may have played a part. Some manufacturers fit washers to spread the load more evenly over the circlip, that may have helped too, if it was used!
I have a 1290R 2019 model. The quickshifter I am only having issues with. The shifts sometimes FEEL like it. Like when I wanna shift up, it doesn't wanna shift at all. Like it's jammed that can happen going to 4th to 5th. When I use clutch & shift normally works perfect feels smooth & nice. Just like it should, It's like the quickshifter isn't working properly. What can cause this?
Thanks!
Chain tension is often an issue with oem shifters, so that's the first thing to check
Just used 10w60 7100 motul and shifts are perfect. Had the same issue with 10w50 motorex or whatever our KTM dealer puts in there...
@@Irresponsibleful I got mine fixed when they re-programed it. Oil depends how the temp of your country. I am in uk so 10w50 is okay
Do you have the rebuild kit part number. Or do I need to source out individual parts.
KTM do some 'gasket sets' but I couldn't find exactly what was in each set so I got all the parts individually
the crank case splits through the cylinder?! thats a really ggod idea....... nice one ktm....
Loads of engines split vertically. Its not an issue other than the amount of work to do when things like the happen
@@bertzx9r894 i only really see yams and bloody bandits in my shop lol
pretty much all V-twin engines have a vertical split, probably one of the reason why most manufacturers are leaning towards parallel twins nowadays. KTM could have desigend the bike with a cassette transmission though, which would have made this job take 1/10th as long.
It does partly make sense to split the cases vertically as the stresses from the crank/pistons, etc are easier to deal with so the cases can be lighter. If you split horizontally the case bolts have to take a lot more load so need to be bigger and stronger. Just means they're a bit more work to maintain.... Honda split horizontally on their twins, as do Ducati on the newer bikes
@@obsession_engineering ive got to do a rebuild on a ktm lc4 625cc! looks like its going to be a fun one!
@Obsession Engineering the only report that the bike was hard to get into fifth and sixth gear ? This bike has a quick shifter ? And the same issue is gearing with clutch or only in quickshifter? I have a little bit hard to get into 5th gear in quickshifter when full gas (not low rpm only full open gas) but when ı try to get into 5th gear with clutch there are no problem... so my gearbox is broken too ? my bike 1290 Superduke gen 2 on 15000 km
Could well be a quick shifter setting if it goes in OK with the clutch. If it doesn't jump out of gear it's probably OK. If it's an aftermarket shifter I'd set a longer kill time
@@obsession_engineering thanks for your answer, it is ktm's original quick shifter and there are no problem when shifting with clutch so its OK ? :)
@@semihboz9202 Just used 10w60 7100 motul and shifts are perfect. Had the same issue with 10w50 motorex or whatever our KTM dealer puts in there...
Now i know why my quote was so high....... fml 😢
Unfortunately they are a long and expensive job 😭
Seems like ktm owners with quickshifters have issues with gearboxes. My superduke has 6k on it, been a pretty good bike.
Is it advisable to avoid these engines when fitted with a quickshifter? I'm toying between a 1290 T vs the S - the T does not come with a QS
SO, SO fun with the QS. It's utter bollocks! 😂
Those KTM engines are rubbish. It’s always, always a $2 part that causes $1K damage. Happened to me & happened to this chap. I now know why their colour is always orange... because it hides the rust well.. The only thing I don’t understand is why it’s not covered under warranty? But, if I know KTM well & I do, they’ll say it’s his fault because he didn’t get it serviced at an authorised dealership.🤦♂️ Thank goodness for Dave & his famous apple crumble ✅👌
looks like a gen 1 so 2014-16 bike and well out of warranty.
@@bryansuperduke1290r that’s probably why I don’t see the difference between gen1 & gen whatever. Because it looks the same.
I'm only here for recipe tips !!!
It is a 2014 bike, so unfortunately it's out of warranty
Great video / shite bike / crap gear box ( yes I own one getting a bugger to get into second on the upshift , is there any upgrade for the gearbox ?
I think the main upgrade is to throw it in a skip... Over the years they have modified a few parts, but nothing is an official upgrade, just a few part numbers changed
Big displacement V2 engine, can be brutal on gearbox.
This is going to be interesting and unnerving...
@Seth Adonis Thanks for answering the question that no-one asked.....
OMG why are guys buying those? Is the orange color so attractive?
No, it's because there such goddam fun!!!😊👍
Is this a known issue or just someone who was unlucky to have this happen to their bike?
The main dealers say it's not a known issue, but it's not the first gearbox issue I've had to fix on an LC8 (1190/1290) engine and a local chap who does a few KTM's wasn't at all surprised
You need to buy custard in bulk cash and carry job 😅
That’s a a lot of broken parts, not going to be a cheap fix.
KTM parts are surprisingly cheap. Most stuff for my buddie's KTM costs less than the equivalent part for my Kawasaki.
@@Uninfluenceable They may be cheaper but he probably has to buy them more often :) Yes, I have a KTM....
Whelp, I no longer see myself as a future KTM owner.
Same here, mad stuff but great to see
Do you think this has never happened to a Japanese bike.
@@bryansuperduke1290r complexity and high parts prices, hoping Japanese bikes are better designed in the breakdown and parts pricing department
@@bryansuperduke1290r if it had been a Japanese bike the video would boil down to taking the sump cover off to have a look at the gears...
@@motorbikesandhacks Yes, it is a shit design. Seen my mechanic doing gearbox on a Kawasaki and don’t think he had to take engine out.
Looks like a good reason not to buy a ktm. Makes good filming though.
It would be a good reason if a lot of KTMs were having the same issue. But this is more of a rare failure.
You could give a lot of reasons not to buy a ktm, I don't think that's one of them
Well that’s fair enough if it is a rare incident.