Consoles that didn't age well
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2018
- We take a look at consoles that didn't age all that well. Of course these are my opinions and I'm curious to see if you agree or not, so let me know what you think!
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1:15 Nintendo was ahead of Apple with the headphone jack adapters! =D
And they realized their mistake and added the jack back on the DS
My iPhone 8 Plus has a headphone jack.
It's a simple DAC ...
rebane2001 They actually added it back before the DS, on the Game Boy Micro.
TriHard Cx The Gameboy Micro released in September 2005, nearly a year after the DS was released.
PS4 and Xbox one won’t age well because of dependence on internet for multiplayer, patches, day one updates, and etc.
He means that when Microsoft and Sony stop supporting the consoles and no longer let you play or do anything online, the console may be rendered useless because almost everything to do with it needs support from Microsoft or Sony. Unless you have some really good single player games, which there aren't as many as there were on other consoles, the console wouldn't be worth playing.
Single Player? PS4 best exklusives are single player games
I said there are fewer single-player games compared to other consoles.
Sadly true. Hopefully amazing games like Bloodborne, Uncharted, Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War aren't too broken unpatched
not sure about the current generation, but on the 360 you can download the official patches from unnoficial sites and install them from a flashdrive, no modding required, it is the same exact file the console downloads from xbox live, and they dont have any DRM just like demos so it is super easy. just search for "xbox 360 title updates" and youre good to go
fun, somewhat, unrelated fact: you can use the gameboy color as a tv remote with the game Mission Impossible. Which includes a tv remote feature, making use of the IR port on the color.
A Jones it’s so fucking cool to learn new things about games/consoles that are 20+ years old, I had no idea about this!
If you have it set up before, yes :)
Neat trick but I already do that with my phone lol.
24ecko but did you use your phone 20 years ago...
Old phones and PDAs used to come with infrared emitters and receivers. This was one of the most common ways to get data to and from these devices in the late '90s and early 2000s, but it was very slow and unreliable. My current smartphone has an IR emitter as well (no receiver though, of course), but I've only toyed around with it a few times; it's not that useful in this day and age.
As far as the PS1, did you not play perhaps, the best Castlevania game ever? SOTN! I still play that game on my original PS1...20yrs later!
The Vegan Punk hes talking about the hardware not the games, just play ps1 games on your ps3.
The Vegan Punk I would too but my disk of SotN is all messed up so it doesn't play audio like it should, it's either all in spurts or just none at all and that bugs me _severely._
It's on the ps3, psp, and vita
The Vegan Punk There are dozens of ways to play that with a better controller amd even hardware.
PS1 sucks.
Welp, looks like it's time to start stocking up on spare parts.
The Sega Saturn aged quite well with its emphasis on 2D games, which was unique for the era. Lots of great 2D arcade fighters and shmups. Buy one and see what I mean.
That’s what I heard. I’d like to try a Saturn one day. It seems like a system I would enjoy very much
YellowSuperNintendo. The sega saturn was the 2d power house during its days and sonic team and sega made many hidem gem Ips like burning rangers,Nights,Daytona Sat,princess crown,sotn Sat and the panzer dragon games oh what memores. :)
Tony, exactly Ps1 has got some great 2d games too. Legend of Mana, MMX4, Symphony of the Night, Strikers 1945, SF Alpha 3, Silolette Mirage etc. Someday, I'm gonna get a Saturn and play Batsugun and other games.
My Japanese Sega Saturn is my favorite console.
KodeKraft RC Mines too! :-)
The PSP has aged EXTREMELY WELL. I have no idea what you're talking about
Daniel Reyes region free for life :) so many remakes too, just like gba and then some.
I still use mine, for movies and music while at work.
He said it was because of the lack of quality replacement batteries, not the console itself :P
PSVita > PSP
I still use my PSP 3000 several times a week. Mostly at night in bed watching movies.
I never use UMDs though as I have CFW and I have a nice program that converts video files into PSP-compatible files so I have a large collection of stuff to watch.
I also have a collection of emulators which means I can keep my original consoles and games in my cupboard and not have to set up and dismantle things all the time.
PSP was way ahead of its time.
I have the standard battery and it's still going strong today. Holds a decent charge and it doesn't take long to charge it from when it's completely empty.
I fixed a gamecube that had a "broken" drive. It refused to read disks. The issue seems somewhat common but it only takes about 45 minutes to fix. All you need to do is tighten a potentiometer to a certain resistance level using a voltage meter. The hardest part is the potentiometer is at the bottom of the gamecube so you need to take everything on top of it off, then fix the screw, then put everything back. There are a lot of screws in the way to get to it which is the hardest part.
Our gamecube refused to load the disks once. We fiddled with it and father just said "Maybe becouse it was kept in a cold room and it suddenly entered a warm place?" so we left it near the oven to warm up and about and hour later since we were doing something it was back up and working. This happened on multiple ocasions and each time we just left it to warm up.
Putting in a new micro sd card in a new 3ds
That comes in handy, thanks! I'm trying to hunt a working one down for mine, and already bought one from China which was dead on arrival, and the only reason I chose it was because it ws the model specified for my PlayStation model
Kenya haven't had or heard of such an issue but if it happens then I will be very thankful and remember this 👍
I completely understand what you mean. 16 bit has aged best in my opinion because of the beautiful colour palette and the fact the games don’t need to look amazing. They weren’t the most technologically advanced even when they were new compared to animated movies and more.
Agreed, 16-bit games are timelessly great looking, it's hand drawn high quality pixel art how could you go wrong. Just look at Thunder Force IV, SOR2, Alien Soldier, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, MMX, Shining Force etc
Retro Soul I agree the 16 bit era was pretty good artwork and good game play....speaking of amazing looking games don't forget donkey Kong country and hagane..
Hagane is such a great looking and easily one of the very best action platformers on Snes. Very much like Revenge of Shinobi I think ppl shy away from it because of its difficulty, and that's a real shame, because the game is very fair. DKC looks good too, with its computer image thing lol but I do prefer a more traditional sprite art design.
Retro Soul I liked it because the backgrounds were marvelous the game play was easy the game wasn't too long or short ..hagane yeah that's one hard game but if you get stuck you can slide by most enemies...I have to admit I'm a bit ashamed of myself I forgot about Maggie (my fiance calls MegaMan x Maggie the joke is lost on me to be honest) any way that was an outstanding game as far as the graphics and those rocking sound tracks... The game play was good but it was a little to easy to beat the Mavericks...
I am not denying here what you just wrote but this is something I would like to bring up which I found somewhat disappointing about the Sega Saturn and PSX.
While the 16 bit generations such as the Genesis and the SNES were a great step up compared to the 8 bit generation and a lot of home computers (even the PC at the time could not portray quite some games as well as the Genesis and SNES), I was still very disappointed that the Genesis and SNES could not do Arcade ports on the same level of quality which was still a step up compared to the 16 bits.
This seemed finally to have been resolved (at least mostly) with the Saturn and PSX which games could have graphic and effect quality as good as the old Arcade cabinets.
Gamers could finally play Arcade accurate ports, but more, imagine what popular genres from the Genesis and SNES would have been like if most of them had stuck to being 2D but now with 32 bit quality graphics.
Unfortunate 3D at the time became more and more a hype despite that the graphics like mentioned in this video were very jagged and ugly, and 2D was considered an outdated concept for the most part until it returned in force on the Gameboy Advance which showed that SNES style graphics are still very pretty.
Both Saturn and PSX still had their share of 2D games, the Saturn more than the PSX I think though the problem now is that a lot of its games never got ported to newer consoles.
Still this generation, the Saturn, PSX, and Nintendo 64 is mostly known by gamers for its early and now ugly 3D games because their 2D games libraries barely are remember with the exception of some of the more dedicated owners.
(major annoyance for me is that the Saturn never got a 2D Sonic, Sonic 4 if you will, or a Phantasy Star 5)
You need to get yourself a Saturn. Its a 2d powerhouse and aged well!
What’s the game at 3:38 I played it before but can’t remember the name and for some reason some reason it reminds me of gta 3
electronics section in marktkauf? where are you from?
If you want a cheap and easy diy psp battery without having to mod the actual console, use a ds lite battery because they are way more reliable and have similar specs to the psp one. I did this and im pretty happy with the results.
Tjk918 Does a da lite battery fit the psp??
yeah, it will fit in the battery case even if you disassemble it
Meh I just hacked my vita to be able to play psp and vita games for free.
I have my PSP 2000 since 2008 and it's still going strong :v
The battery did die 2 years ago, but I left it rest for a month while I looked for a solution and when I tried it again, it was like as if nothing happened
I still have my game cube that I got fairly early too and it still runs like a dream. I wonder if it's region has anything to do with how reliable a console is?
Anyone knows the best option to replace PSP's battery? Mine is dying.
PS1 3D = pretty bad, PS1 2D = amazing still
saturn 2D = amazing 2.0 on steroids. radiant silvergun, x-men vs. street fighter, street fighter zero 3
scir 91 And the Saturn version of Mega Man X4, added heatwave effects in the backgrounds that the PS1 version lacked
Ps1 3D games like Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy 9, Metal Gear Solid or Grant Turismo 2... i dont know they are pretty awesome looking. I remember back then as a kid i tought Final Fantasy 9 is a Ps2 game :D well i also had an Xbox so Ps2 games to me looked allready a bit outdated.
SNES 3D >>>>>> PS1
Props for sliding in the nep reference
My GameCube's drive is starting to go out, sadly. It takes restarting the console nearly 10 times just to get the game to start. I just play them on my Wii if it ends up not working, but then I miss the startup animation.
thanks for this video i was wondering about older systems and how long they will last.
So to sum up:
ALMOST EVERY CONSOLE 5th gen or later hasn't aged well.
Plenty of 5th gen and up systems aged well IMO. PS2, GameCube, Wii, GBA, and Dreamcast are all very playable today, mainly due to either being moddable, reliable, or easy to obtain. Not too sure how the internet depended consoles like PS3, PS4, XBOX 2, XBOX 3 will do once support ends for those, though.
Gamecube, PS2, XBOX and a 21 inch 4:3 CRT TV. I'm sold.
SoulCalibur on a VGA Dreamcast is godly.
Dude, all the consoles you mention there are Gen 6 or higher, not Gen 5.
Dreamcast and *some* n64 games aged well
The Saturn was huge in Japan 1265 games and in the USA 258, there's a lot of unique and fun games on the Saturn, most games hold up really well besides the polygonal type games which look very blocky (I'm looking at you virtual fighter).
Most games in Japan used various kinds of mixed presentation and weren't fully 3D. This was facilitated by the hardware design, but isometric games aged best on Playstation too.
Virtua Fighter Remix was pretty good and Virtual On is awesome too
There only 547 game.
Navi, The Real Fairies Queen Former YANG. That is incorrect, there's a lot of misinformation on Wikipedia and other main stream user uploaded none checked sites, please go to satakore com and you will see the list of Japanese games.
Josh P true, over 1100 games
ive had two game cubes, one of them
i apparently poured water in when i was little, and it still worked, until about 4 or so years ago, then i got a new one and the disc drive seems to be starting to dwindle in its quality, it progressively has a harder time reading discs, and now can’t read three discs it use to be able to. so i either i’m either very unlucky or the drives just fail faster than most consoles
Great video! For the record, my launch PS1 (rca jacks on back) had the disk drive go within 2 years, as well as plenty of others(I managed a funcoland in the late 90s). Think they fixed it, but those launch ps1s are likely all gone lol!
Yeah i definitely had a wii in which the disk drive would fail randomly. The thing was aging terribly for sure.
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Good stuff. The one thing that was missed was the early PS2 consoles with the Disc Read Error issues. My launch PS2 had it. Also my Gamecube would overheat and crash (which I solved by replacing the fan with a higher-RPM one; the stock fan ran too slowly out of the box). Can't agree more about the 5th-gen consoles with their dated visuals.
8:55 Gamecubes along with the PS2 were common to have a laser go bad or a disc drive needing to be re-calibrated. Usually because the lens got dirty but they tend to go bad after so many years.
So basically every great console of each generation didn't aged well for this guy --'
Wendel Lucas Damião "Great"
Wendel Lucas Damião PS2 aged fine lol
No console will age well have you ever heard the saying all good things come to an end
Apparently, the PS1 and such didn't "age well" for him when they were brand-new - Because he was playing PC games with better graphics already. That kind of judgement kind of reduces the value of his opinion...
dreamcast aged well
Holy shit, Is that GT PSP at 2:50? It looks almost as good at GT4!
man, i had an early 360. even had the hd dvd add-on. that thing gave me a red ring of death, and a boot error screen, but it still trucks on to this day!
My GameCube (manufactured around 2003) started having disc read errors caused by perceived overheating- that is, the system's heat sensors went bad, and it would stop reading the disc as soon as it reached a normal operating temperature!
IIRC, I looked around on the internet at the time, and it turned out that this was a known defect affecting a moderate-sized batch of consoles. Fortunately, I'd had the GCN for 11 months, and there was still a month left on the warranty!
Just imagine ysn jumping in the garbage savenging old Xboxes
Video game dumpster diving
YellowSuperNintendo here in the UK when you go to dump you can actually ask and I normally give the person I asked like a general 20 quidd and you can get it.
That's how comes I've got loads of systems as spares.
There are still Memory cards you can use for the XBOX. And there a lot of prople who would mod the XBOX.
I broke my Nintendo DS Lite upper screen in 2014 when i was trying to clean it, the crystal liquid just spreaded though the screen and the image got washed out and with ghosting, it was like a old CTR TV. From that time until this year i almost never played my NDS again, but earlier this year i got it fixed, replaced the entire upper screen and fixed one of the speakers (it didn't worked, i had to use headphones). Good to see that there's still people in Brazil that fixes NDSs, and its still fairly easy to find replacement parts for this console, and its not that expensive. Now i'm using my NDS to emulate Game Boy and Game Boy Color, been playing Zelda Link's Awakening DX, and works flawessly.
I'm now just looking for a replacement for my flashcard, its an original R4 Revolution v2, still works, but its limited to 2 GB SD cards, i have only four 2 GB cards left working, all Kingston, but nowdays i can't find 2 GB cards, not even Kingston cards, its all Sandisk and most 2 GB cards on the market now are pirated, i tried and it didn't worked very well, its not worth. There will be a time that these SD cards will stop working, so i might as well get a new flashcard that supports SDHC cards.
I didn't know that about OG Xboxes. My first one had a disk drive failure, but my second one has been working flawlessly for 15 years while seeing regular use.
I have 5 white Xbox models that died, so last September I bought an Elite! It was only $58 at GameStop.
i still play Spyro 3 and Crash 2...
What I found was that the disc laser positioning on the gamecube need to be adjusted after I got it. It was a simple fix, but you still needed to take apart the system. I have a video if you have questions.
Cool tune at the end
I find it amusing that you refer to the Xbox 360 as being "back in the day" LOL
Maarek Stele the Xbox 360 came out 13 years ago so yeah that was back in the day
Maarek Stele why?
Seriously haha...This dude must be in his early 20’s...
Maarek Stele it’s 12 years old of course it’s back in the day
When your in your mid 40s, 12 years ago is not back in the day lol. If you lived during every game generation since the first atari and colleco vision like me, then this makes you crack up. Its different for everyone. Its only back in the day for you youngbucks ✌
I’ve never really had a broken console. Guess I’ve been lucky! I really want more gba games but I need game boy player for my GameCube!
I own a dozen consoles over the years, and pretty much all of them function just fine, and some of these I picked up used from other people. The only console that had to be replaced was a slim PS2, which kept eating discs. But we didn't have it that long, and we quickly replaced with it a used fat PS2 which still works just fine. I guess we're pretty careful, although I did drop my Wii and yet it still functions years later.
8:37 my Wii used to get extremely hot in standby back when i still played it. i never know it was an issue, just thought its how they were
What 3D PC games were you playing when the PSX came out?
That's what I want to know too. There wouldn't have been any kind of DirectX at all since Windows 95 didn't come out for another year,
Weird I haven't heard a thing about the PSP battery issues. I've been using the same battery in my console since 2010 and it seems to be just as good now as it was back then.
Same here. I have a 1000 model and the battery works actually fine... The console has like 10 years old.
It's usually a problem with any kind of lithium-ion batteries. DOn't know why he singled out PSP (already roasted the shit out of the other systems so why the fuck not?) but yeah depends on how well you handle the system; if it gets dropped/bumped around a lot and stuff then it will last shorter/possibly burst, or if you treat it right it can last years on end
Also the console still isn't that old (the last revision came out in like 2012) so I'm sure third party solutions will comes when its closer to the "retro" range.
Is the PSP considered retro, now?
My soul: *O O F*
Even the PS Vita is retro nowadays. It's showing its age, but dual analog sticks put it above the PSP.
Playing the PS Vita throughout the 2020s would be like playing the GBA back in the 2010s.
Time to stock up on motherboards wi-fi dishes and knowledge on how to mod handhelds and consoles
My OG Xbox still turns on.. but I can't find my video cords, and It also flashes orange. Does that mean it's dead?
spectrumbots42
It probably still works. The LED flashes when it can't detect a video cable.
I have a PS3 Super Slim and a Wii U and they aged well. Now, about the Sega Saturn, the Saturn was a 2D/3D powerhouse. It was backwards-compatible with Saturn game discs and music CDs. It relied on a memory cartridge that acted as a memory card, which would save your game data. The Sega CD/Sega Mega CD also had a memory cartridge and it was backwards-compatible with Sega CD/Sega Mega CD and music CDs, too. 2D and 3D games would play smoothly on the Saturn. In Japan and other countries, the Saturn sold like hotcakes, but here in the USA, the Saturn didn't sell well because most stupid Americans never paid any attention to the Saturn. Non-Saturn fanboys/fangirls were more into the N64 and the PS1.
It was way overpriced here in the states, and had a very quiet/rushed launch. It never picked up after that. I agree it had some great games, but the problem was that none of them were launch titles.
My favorite way to play psone games in the psp because 1. Load times are quicker 2. Psp runs psone natively 3. Screen adjustment options. Xenogears is my favorite psone game. The tales of games were also really fun imo. Final Fantasy VII-IX are on the psone. It is hard to forget Crash and Spyro.
ahv 5032 Same here, mainly playing MGS via it. The emulation gallery is amazing...!
And by extension, a modded Vita runs PSP, and by extension PSOne games natively, with a significantly better screen (both the original OLED, and the slim LCD).
It raw accesses the ROM, not emulate the CD drive (as far as the load times thing you mentioned)? Neat, never knew that!
You're certainly right about the N64 being blurry. I saw it in the UK back in the day and even in a PAL territory it was blurry, and I couldn't figure out why.
What about the VCR we received in 2013?
Interesting video, I did not know much about this topic, thank you! =D
Thanks! Glad you liked it
Dreamcast master race, where you at?
Marktkauf? Are you from Germany?^^
Looking at your videos about Nintendo stuff I care about with apparent interest in "2D stuff", you earned yourself a new subscriber anyway!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Dreamcast.
I still have my psp-1000. I actually traded a friend for his with the newer one I bought when they first came out. The psp-1000 was able to be hacked so you could download and store games on it. It had ps2 graphics when ps3 just came out and the only other portable device around was the GBA. Back when smart phones were in their infancy it was awesome to be able to watch movies, play games and surf the net over wifi with it.
I agree with everything except one. Noire is best grill.
U hated the ps1?? You must’ve had a terrible childhood
When you mentioned about Hyperdimension Neptunia (it is not my favorite jRPG series but I like it very much) I gave you like xD.
And by the way I'm PC gamer and I play jRPG on PC, many of them are available on Steam, possibly older ones that aren't (like Brave Story New Traveler or Black Rock Shooter: The Game) can be emulated but of course not all of them.
8:41 You had me at "My white Wii has this problem" :D
I think the wiihas aged very well tbh.
PerrinPansy Especially the family oriented games + Wii fit
Matricious 1 yeah. I still play mario kart and brawl sometimes.
Which is incredibly ironic considering how far behind it was from the competition in terms of specs. I still believe mario galaxy 2 to be the best game of its generation which helps imo.
Callinater Galaxy 2 was godlike. There’s never going to be another game like that one.
Still play it to this day. Plenty of great games representing from every genre. And few hardware failures.
I absolute love my PSP 1000, been hocked on Pokemon Fire Red for the past few weeks, and has a great library!
Tech Maac same here, I have 2 PSPs so I can play multiplayer with my brother.
Prefer 2 PSPs rather than a Switch
Matricious 1 definitely my triplet brother has a PSP as well, if a problem appears with the console they are really cheap to fix!
original shells are literally almost impossible to find though
which is the exact reason why I haven't fixed my PSP 1000 that is falling apart
Matricious 1 psp over Switch... 😂😂😂😂😂
David T Bro it's true.. switch = Wii u version 2
Proud owner of an NGC and still in love with it still works great only problem is the lid won't close but the reason for that is I lent it to a friend and he stuck a screwdriver in the catch and jammed it I got it unjammed but now I have to try even harder to keep it closed but it still works so I digress
My Gamecube likes to throw a disc read error up occasionally, usually when I haven't saved in awhile, makes REmake no save runs ultra scary though.
Sega Saturn held up the best in the 5th generation
Lol no it didn't. Poor management and hard to program. Did like dragon force and the bundle with Virtua cop, Virtua fighter 2 and Daytona usa though.
Consoles that didn't age well:
ALL after 1993 apparently
What about the PS2? That was a legendary console.
@@nignigolas8580 Why do you people not get the joke?
Is error 76 the same thing as red ring of death ?
My GameCube has started to fail with the he disc drive. Sometimes I have to manually spin the gams disc before closing the lid to try getting the game to start running. If in the end it completely fails I can use the Wii though..
Sega Saturn an obscure console? 😑😑😑
My Ps2s do not age well... They all seem to fail to read the discs properly
Not *all* PS2's, all systems that use disc drives do. My GameCube died out on me first before my PS2 due to it's top loading assembly and being exposed to dust and stuff easier. So if anything, GameCube ones are more notorious for it.
My fat PS2 still works fine nearly two decades later (and we got it used), although we briefly had a slim PS2 prior to that we had to quickly replace cause it was destroying game discs left and right.
ps2 can read games from the hdd pr network so its not a problem
Laaks Apparently you need to adjust the laser in the PS2. When I was 5 my PS2 had the same issue and we got it fixed. Somehow it comes out of place.
I’ve had a good few Sega Genesis consoles that had an issue with power cord connection. Two of them I had required me to move the cord around in the port and jam it in until it would turn on and would shut off if I looked at it the wrong way.
Also the OG Gameboy deserves to be the first console on this list, the thing is built like a tank and would probably still work if dropped off of a five story building but god damn that screen really sucks. I’ve had a fair few of those too and never had one with a great screen.
Great video as always, I would be really into the idea of you doing one about consoles that aged well also!
Thanks! Interesting note about the Genesis. I have two, but haven't used them much, nor do I know much about them. Sounds like the connector might have come slightly loose? Maybe it can be fixed with a soldering iron. And yes, the next video is about consoles that aged well :)
YellowSuperNintendo that’s what I’m assuming is that the connector comes loose from the board and can be fixed with a soldering iron but I haven’t tested it yet myself. Looking forward to the next one!
Korncakes1 Mega Drive!!
I have a broken GameCube drive where you have to apply direct pressure really hard to the top of the console or it won't read discs.
BTW the GameCube I'm talking about was one I got for $25 at a GoodWill thrift shop.
Sounds like the sensor that checks for the lid open/closed cracked. No replacements for that.
My Ps1 won't read discs unless you lean against something sideways. This was a common problem with the original Ps1 I thought Sony had side standing ps2 and 3 stands as an ohmage to the original Ps1 issue.
Calling out the entire 5th generation of consoles! 10/10
Same thing about the eye strains with the N64
The original Xbox didn't aged well either
I have two and both have busted capacitors.
The PS1 and PSOne didn't aged well too with the plastic rails the lens slides on
If you have patience you can fix the ps1 drive without tampering with the pot; but as I said, PATIENCE.
I've fixed 3 😁
Teach me your ways! I'm trying to do the same thing with mine and I've been adjusting that pot for weeks now and still getting nothing!
This method requires some trial and error, but I find it reliable since the ones I've fixed still work after 2 years. You have to take apart your cd drive though. Anyway, the idea is to reposition the optical eye to look directly to the cd, a job that the plastic pads of the drive rails don't help much :P . By opening the case of the cd case carefully slide the drive all the way to the right, the farthest from the place you put the cd. You should be able to see a white clip on it. Lift it carefully up and right (I really can't describe it better :P . There are videos that show how) By now you should be able to lift the whole drive without its plastic case and see the damn white pads the cause the problem. Cut a small piece of duct tape (say ca the size of the pad). Cut a hole in the middle, too, and place it under the pad that's located to the right, as far from the place of the cd holder and reassemble to test. Remember you have to reset the pot in order not to damage the lens. Hope that helps, I may make a video on this.
My gamecube takes multiple tries to read a disk. My ps2 also has that occasional issue, plus the disc drive makes noise when it spins, so I think its going out. Thank god for ports. Its nice to play games on something that isn't 20 years old and is on the verge of completely giving out.
Would a Hand held be classed as a console?
I was thinking more like what you would connect to an television
From my personal experience, the Wii's disc drive failure is caused by the disc reading lenses getting dirty (doesn't happen with a Wii mini due to its design).
Nintendo even sold 20$ "cleaning discs"!!!
Matricious 1 I’ve had my Wii since 2006 and have never had to clean it at all it still runs like a boss
I never had issues with mine and mine was from the ssbb release days. I did hear however that if you smoked in your home the air from from it would harm the disc reader in your wii. So it is air sensitively
Personally, I don't think many consoles have aged poorly except the ones that tried waaaay too hard to be cutting edge. The N64's I think is the most stand out example, with that ugly forced anti-aliasing, and plus the system was a pain to program for effectively, leading to tons of games that ran like garbage.
The SNES did okay in almost every regard except processing speed and audio. Sample based music on a console was a good idea, but the severe lack of RAM and the guassian filter on the SPC700 really holds back the audio unless you're willing to do some crazy stuff to work around limits like some artists such as Dean Evans were.
People complain about the Mega Drive's sound chip a lot, but the only thing really holding that back in most games was developers being too lazy to learn FM synthesis, that wasn't really a fault of the hardware.
I think the old tech that has aged the worst though is old pre-built and proprietary computers. If you want an example of something pretty much useless now, just take a look at the Black & White and early/budget Color Macintosh computers. Very few of them have historical value, and they can't run much software of note since there weren't many games for them and a lot of the stuff on them was basically just business applications.
To make matters even worse, they use SMD capacitors which NEED to be replaced. I got an LC II for free recently, and two of the capacitors exploded and the remaining 14 on the motherboard had all started to leak, and it had the infamous leaky power supply as well, so all in all I had to replace 20 capacitors to get the darned thing even working.
Very nice to run into someone who understands the 16-bit systems. Too many ppl are brainwashed by James Rolfe or Watchmojo.
Anyway, agreed, Nintendo was naive to focus purely on aesthetics and neglect hardware performance. And for audio, it wasn't really until 1994-5 until games started to sound truly great due to bigger carts (3megs+) CT, FFVI, DKC, Super M, King of Dragons, Tales of Phantasia etc.
Meanwhile the Gen/MD had crystal clear audio from the beginning (1989) with Revenge of Shinobi, Midnight Resistance, Thunder Force 3 etc (Japanese games anyway). There were western exceptions like Comix Zone (Howard Drossin) and Adventures of B&R (1995) (Jesper Kyd) but it was such lost potential when most devs didn't bother to learn how to properly program FM sound, creating false impressions everywhere on its awesome capability. Both systems have their pros and cons and are fantastic for their own reasons though.
The N64 however, is just a poorly designed machine. Nintendo (foolishly) designed a unitary ram architecture where the cpu and the gpu can't simultaneously access the ram, meaning the system can't run at its fullest potential, thus creating performance bottlenecks (many games suffer from a poor frame rate) that never should have existed given the numerical specs. A dumb problem to have to say the least, the small cart sizes is only one issue the system has. Regardless still love many of its games though, but there's no doubt that system could have been alot better (much like the Saturn).
Those beliefs are founded on people not being very well educated though. The SNES and Mega Drive/Genesis had significantly different sound hardware, and neither one is actually worse.
I plan to make a full video on the Mega Drive's sound hardware, but in short:
The Mega Drive has a cleaner and richer overall sound due to sounds being synthesized in real time, but suffers from being difficult to learn programming on due to the complexity of FM synthesis. If you learn it however, it's much easier to make amazing sounding instruments with.
The SNES uses samples, making it very easy to get to the point of "good" sound design, but it suffers from an incredibly small amount of sound RAM (limiting how high quality samples can be), and forced sound interpolation in order to hide sound artifacts as a result of how the chip processes samples.
All in all though, it comes down to the composer to make something good. Neither chip is objectively better, just different. If you want examples of amazing Mega Drive music, listen to anything by Hitoshi Sakimoto, TechnoSoft, Jesper Kyd, and Matt Furniss. If you want examples of amazing SNES music, listen to anything by Dean Evans.
Dean is one of the few composers that I think really makes the SNES shine, although to give less credit to the SNES, he had to use a lot of tricks to get games like Waterworld to sound as good as they do.
Speedy, fully agreed. It just comes down to ignorance basically. Many of us were kids during the 16-bit era and haven't done proper research nor play many 16-bit games since, so alot of folk come on the internet and regurgitate the same nostalgic, juvenile perspective they had when they were kids, and in some cases it's very annoying.
I remember having a Nintendo 64
Does anyone know where I can get a cheap super smash bros melee
Be lucky as fuck LOL. Nobody will sell you a cheap copy of Melee if they know what they have in their hands... so honestly garage sales are your best bet.
YTPArchiveFoundation YTPAF you are better off getting homebrew on your Wii, unless you absolutely have to have a physical copy. The price has skyrocketed and will only keep getting more expensive with age.
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Ummm, what does he has to do with this video?
Ummm, didn't you watch this video?
Nope
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My Wii disc reader stopped working. It's an original Wii, with the GameCube backwards compatibility. I just emulate Wii and GameCube games using Dolphin now.
The GameCube disc drive failure not only wasn't a very common problem but it was an issue limited to the launch models.
The n64 looks like ass on youtube or an hd tv. If you play it on a old school crt tv the framerate is increased and its not blurry. The colors are a tad bit over saturated but not that much. Same thing with the ps1.
They do look better on a CRT (like anything pre-HDMI), but I've played them when they where new on CRT television and thought the graphics where awful even then. In the end it doesn't really matter. Good games transcend bad graphics.
Well we both have different opinions. But you have to agree, consoles likr the Genesis, MasterSystem, Nes, Snes look way better on a CRT than they do on a HD Tv.
No worries, everyone's got a different opinion on these sorts of things. Definitely agree on the CRTs. Old systems look so much better on them. I think CRTs have a natural anti-aliasing effect that game developers had in mind when making their games. That combined with the lack of scan lines is what makes older games look so bad on modern TVs.
There's no amount of technology in a CRT to increase the framerate of the N64 that HDTV's do. The N64 has that at it's own hardware level, not in the TV, and I agree that it would *look* okay, but no framerate improvements.
You are great at complaining, you could be Dutch like me...
that point about PSP batteries is so true and sad. a few months ago i busted out my old psp to ride the nostalgia train only to discover the battery had burst and the only batteries i could find online had terrible reviews
Thanks for telling about the early wii getting hot on standbye mode. I bought it as a back up for the one I have that doesn't get hot,but I thought it was because it was modded.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on the 5th gen consoles. And about the Sega Saturn, it's actually the best 5th gen console in retrospect. The 2D capabilities and the Japanese exclusives made the Saturn age like a fine wine, unlike its more popular 3D contemporaries.
Ps1 is with it as well ya know. Symphony of the Night, Mega Man X4, Strikers 1945, Raiden II, SF Alpha 3, Gex, Suikoden II etc...
Retro Soul The Saturn versions of the 2D games were far better than their PS1 counterparts, especially when it came to Arcade ports like X-Men vs. Street Fighter. More frames of animation, more background details, etc. When it came to 3D games, it was the opposite. The Saturn was built for 2D gaming whereas the PS1 was built for 3D.
The only exception is Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night. The Saturn port was ass.
I do know this, but generally speaking...2d gaming on both are great even if one is better than the other.
saturn couldve been much better if it isnt rushed
How is it the best 5th gen console if it was rubbish at 3d and it failed?. No one wanted anymore 2d games
Only consoles that will age well are the snes , Nes, megadrive and another consoles that play 2d games . 3d games look bad because they keep on improving making the previous look like ass
adem What about ps2 ?
Or the gamecube. IMO the nes hasnt aged well
Gtfo. Now.
adem The Nes would break over time with the 72 pin connectors.
charger master sure the nes pin connectors fail but you can buy new ones one eBay for eight dollars ...its almost impossible to find parts for disc drive consoles... You can find the lasers but the other parts arent easy to find
The origenal toaster NES. I replaced the 72 pin connector, dissabled the lockout chip, and still there is a pretty high failure rate. If I ever were to sell it, I would probobly replace the 72 pin again. I also don't really play the origen hardwhere very much anymore, but if I did, it is honestly worth it just to get a top loader since my TV, and I think most modern TVs, don't have composite anyway.
5th gen consoles look perfectly fine on a proper CRT display. It's when you try to play them on an HDTV where things go out the window imo.
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PlayStation Portable? Don't you mean *PlayStation Pornable*
Chadtronic, No?
You mean the one that gives you access to *Pandora's Box*
Stop the music!
The major problem with gamecubes is the laser often goes and they won’t read discs. I’ve had a few that have had this problem
Game Boy Advance SP and Nintendo DS Phat both used rechargeable Li-Ion batteries before PSP, but it’s a small thing. I remember not caring at all about PSP at the time, but now that I have two (1000 and GO), it’s my favorite handheld from that period. Surprisingly, both’s batteries are still going strong (knock on wood).
The Wii (for me) has aged best of all the consoles. As mentioned, softmodding. Turns your Wii into the ultimate retro games machine.
Eww.
So you basically hate everything
I don't hate any of the consoles I talked about. I just mentioned some specific flaws which I think didn't age well.
I had an original Wii (2006 white one). The disk drive was defective from the moment I turned it on. It would only load about half the time, and in-game disk read errors were way too common. Ended up buying a brand new one in 2010. I still have it and have not had a single problem with it.
Failing hardware is one of the main reasons that emulation is so important. I wish people would talk about that aspect a little more.