Which 4* Need Constellations The Most In Genshin Impact? Tier List

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  • A Tier List About 4* Constellations In Genshin Impact. SUBSCRIBE
    00:00 Xiangling
    00:44 Chevreuse
    01:27 Mika
    01:59 Heizou
    02:23 Dori
    03:02 Yunjin
    03:32 Chongyun
    03:58 Kuki
    04:19 Yanfei
    04:45 Kirara
    05:00 Thoma
    05:34 Candance
    06:03 Kaeya
    06:39 Charlotte
    07:00 Sara
    07:21 Noelle
    07:36 Gaming
    08:05 Fischl
    08:45 Amber
    09:30 Lisa
    10:09 Rosaria
    10:39 Faruzan
    10:50 Xinyan
    11:12 Gorou
    11:51 Sucrose
    12:32 Diona
    13:03 Sayu
    13:42 Ningguang
    14:02 Bennett
    14:57 Lynette
    15:39 Beidou
    16:23 Yao Yao
    16:52 Razor
    17:22 Barbara
    17:47 Layla
    18:13 Xingqiu
    18:55 Collei
    19:22 Kaveh
    20:08 Final Changes
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  • @TheGenshinScientist
    @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +20

    Made some changes at the end too! Also didn't count Xianyun for 4* roles for the most part
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    • @YAOOOOOOOO966
      @YAOOOOOOOO966 3 місяці тому +2

      Hey TGS start of the video w/ XL C6 you forgot to mention her C6 doesn't benefit from the C6 as the pyronado snapshots. Only the startup hits & guoba benefit from the pyro%, the full pyronado won't. This means outside of monopyro this constellation is usually a very small 2% increase

    • @Yessses
      @Yessses 27 днів тому

      What happened to freminet?

  • @cqwiii
    @cqwiii 3 місяці тому +210

    8:56 this is inaccurate
    Amber's main role is lighting torches

    • @manday2267
      @manday2267 3 місяці тому +1

      I remember that video. 🤣

    • @Goremize
      @Goremize 3 місяці тому

      Exactly, asif having C6 Amber is going to make anyone use her outside of lighting torches. If a Four star needs C6, they are not worth it to invest in.
      There is too many four stars now for you to have a chance at getting any that high after years.

    • @WackyIraqi777
      @WackyIraqi777 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@Goremize that's a strong statement. Faruzan and Kujou Sara are excellent at C6 if you want to play their teams. All about preferences.

  • @butterfer0808
    @butterfer0808 3 місяці тому +151

    Every once in a while Pulse whispers in TGS's ear about Dori. It really is rubbing off on him.

    • @Lwk_
      @Lwk_ 3 місяці тому +43

      the word of dori aggravate dps needs to be spread

    • @kevinkarthik3329
      @kevinkarthik3329 3 місяці тому +12

      @@Lwk_we better be quicken about it

  • @namelessentity5477
    @namelessentity5477 3 місяці тому +40

    I opened this to hear about Freminet and I find it so funny that he just gets placed on it with no further words.

    • @guest_zzroman2076
      @guest_zzroman2076 3 місяці тому +6

      To be fair his constellations are just a pile of stats stacked on top of his base kit, crit rate, bonus atk after reactions, crit damage and skill upgrades, only his C2 gives him some ER.

  • @MrDee001
    @MrDee001 3 місяці тому +99

    Aloy is the only 4ish star that *NEEDS* constellations. 😂

    • @toura8265
      @toura8265 3 місяці тому +12

      3 star

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 3 місяці тому +9

      Personally, I wish they could remove her infusion and lowered skill CD so I could run Rust Shimenawa phys build 😥

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 3 місяці тому +1

      1 star character with 0* cons

    • @VictorIbelles
      @VictorIbelles 3 місяці тому

      @@DefinitelyNotAFerretshimenawa cryo infused aloy with anemo VV
      Is far better than phys tho
      Most enemies have high phys res now , so even with Mika buff and superconduct shred it does less dmg than a elemental build

    • @VictorIbelles
      @VictorIbelles 3 місяці тому

      @@Shreyash112she’s not that bad , she has a lot of bonus , my aloy can do 25k normal Atks (with buffs)

  • @AdolphoPaiva
    @AdolphoPaiva 3 місяці тому +32

    I was abou to criticize you video because of Xiangling: while she is playable at any constellation (pretty much every 4 star is), her C4 is a must have for the teams she is well known for. It's not just a damage increase, it affects the rotation of the other characters.

  • @epicdarkraifournineone8006
    @epicdarkraifournineone8006 3 місяці тому +16

    Barbara's C6 got a huge buff recently, as it's affected by the abyss cooldown reset im between chambers and attempts, meaning you get a free revive for each attempt.
    However, this only works if she's in the first half 😔
    Regardless, it doesn't change her place in the tier list since it's just QoL that doesn't even come into play most of the time, and it gets less useful the more you invest into her since she gets better and better at preventing your characters from dying in the first place. But when it does occur, it's really nice.

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 3 місяці тому

      I guess its very subjective difference,if u have good team and skills to atleast dodge and use skills & EB on cooldown then its impossible to die

  • @ei-chan8929
    @ei-chan8929 3 місяці тому +17

    Anyone who says Xiangling dosent need c4 is capping.

  • @Saryuja26
    @Saryuja26 3 місяці тому +14

    C1 on Yanfei is absolutely a must because of stamina. Yanfei (even at c6) struggles with stamina but without the refund from c1 she can't charge attack as often and will lose the ability to sprint making her much worse versus multiple enemies and makes her feel awful to play

    • @ibetterbearoundyou
      @ibetterbearoundyou 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly. It's not even better than C4, which is the one everyone looks for. No one needs a multiple scaling character. It doesn't work always. Either she hits or tanks, trying to do both things won't go anywhere, like Xinyan.

    • @Saryuja26
      @Saryuja26 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ibetterbearoundyou c4 is nice to have and definitely makes using with your full rotation easier but it and c6 aren't necessary like c1 is if you play dps

  • @pepelarrza3877
    @pepelarrza3877 3 місяці тому +38

    No mention for Freminet? You skiped him right to Yanfei around 4:20

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +46

      Lol I think clip got cut. Anyway he gains around 50% from c0 to c6 with no super big const

    • @TheRedstoneWeb
      @TheRedstoneWeb 3 місяці тому +11

      Could you add this to pinned comment​@@TheGenshinScientist?

  • @thanatos7085
    @thanatos7085 3 місяці тому +16

    I wanted to comment about XL's placement, but you changed it to what I thought in the end :)

  • @lucasdiassilveira9762
    @lucasdiassilveira9762 3 місяці тому +10

    You have soo much useful in depth guides on your channel. Thanks for the effort you put in your work

  • @xanthee_imr
    @xanthee_imr 3 місяці тому +21

    I just want to point out that Candace even before C6 feels really good in bloom, even at C0 I was doing fine honestly and C1 is a very good upgrade, I know that C6 is a huge upgrade and makes her more relevant in Nilou's meta but definitely not a must. I've tested Nilou bloom teams with Yaoyao on field btw. Nice video!

    • @Zemos_zermos
      @Zemos_zermos 3 місяці тому +1

      Yaoyao on field is my standard for Nilou teams, I have never really bothered to try anything else as the damage is so over the top already

    • @xanthee_imr
      @xanthee_imr 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Zemos_zermos also she's just so funny! And spawns more radishes if you jump around! I just can't, it's too wholesome

    • @flamezforthegamez1056
      @flamezforthegamez1056 3 місяці тому

      I'd imagine Candace would be great for Xianyun plunge-vape teams (forward vape) if we could just get decent Xiangling alternatives. Having two Xiangling sidegrades may be enough for the forward vape Candace teams, but its simply Furina existence that makes Xianyun teams heavily rev-vape centric.

    • @xanthee_imr
      @xanthee_imr 3 місяці тому

      @@flamezforthegamez1056 you are asking for a 2nd no ICD pyro monster, just directly ask to break the game 😂

    • @enutrofdude
      @enutrofdude 3 місяці тому +1

      @@xanthee_imr Jump, or dash both work for Yaoyao's burst. Dash-spam might actually be the better option (especially if you're near an enemy that can block the dash) because jumping takes a little bit more time and is a little less spammable.

  • @CritsVG
    @CritsVG 3 місяці тому +15

    Heavily disagree on Kaeya. Yes, his C6 is great, but MANDATORY? Absolutely not. Been using him on Freeze teams since I got C2 and he's already great at that point.

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 3 місяці тому +48

    Lisa`s C6 changes everything

    • @staarfall5317
      @staarfall5317 3 місяці тому +1

      lisas c6 is also the hardest c6 to get in the game, including 5 stars, so it is literally impossible for the change to be that drastic.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 3 місяці тому +26

      @@staarfall5317 I don't follow.
      1, How Lisa's C6 harder to get comered to Amber's or Kaeya's C6?
      2, Why would the change be less drastic because it is rare?
      Lisa C6 absolutly change everything how you play Lisa, because it is give her a massive AoE nuke you can activate the same time you take on field with her. The best part is thet because of this you can just use Thundering Fury after you used her hold E and reduce the couldown so you can nuke in the next rotation as well makeing it a consistent playstyle.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 3 місяці тому

      Except 4 person co-op.

    • @Inferfound
      @Inferfound 3 місяці тому +1

      aint nobody ever getting that lisa has been perm removed from having rate up on limited banners she can only be gotten by just pure luck on 4 star rolls

    • @dinohunter6450
      @dinohunter6450 3 місяці тому +13

      ​@@InferfoundThere's still the monthly shop if you save your star glitter, but you can only get two constellations per year which is just sad.
      Her C6 may as well be imaginary at this point. They really ought to give the OG cast rate ups these days, especially since there are day one players who still don't have some of them (referring mostly to 5*) and still don't have a chance in hell of getting their C6 (referring mostly to 4*). Like, how many people really wanted Jean/Diluc/Keqing/Mona and still don't have one or more of them? How many people really want to C6 their Kaeya or Lisa but can't because it's just pure luck (and the odds get worse with every new 4*)?

  • @Rafos
    @Rafos 3 місяці тому +33

    Damn, this might be the first Tier List I've ever seen on UA-cam where I wouldn't change anything at all. Perfectly on point.👌

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes agreed,other videos were biased towards meta and not general use thus became irrelevant time to time

  • @cornflakebutsilly
    @cornflakebutsilly 3 місяці тому +251

    Cyno being powercrept by Dori in hyperbloom is the funniest thing ever
    Edit: chill guys it's a joke, only true for low/mid investment

    • @NexusGamerss
      @NexusGamerss 3 місяці тому +57

      Damn so she just also powercrept Raiden, Keqing and Yae 💀
      Best Electro carry fr

    • @SSSS-os4sc
      @SSSS-os4sc 3 місяці тому +11

      Atleast he still has quickbloom

    • @santabakure6264
      @santabakure6264 3 місяці тому +45

      @@NexusGamerssDori the almighty

    • @MarcosVinicius-vw3ct
      @MarcosVinicius-vw3ct 3 місяці тому +26

      ​@@NexusGamerssnope cause thats cyno bis team, not raidens keqings or yaes

    • @santi3256
      @santi3256 3 місяці тому +10

      ??? Whats that false information wtf. She got only 3 seconds infusion per skill at c6 xdd

  • @philkersonchong9848
    @philkersonchong9848 3 місяці тому +4

    Diona c6 200 EM imo works best in spread teams due to on-field dps scaling so much with EM where the cryo doesn’t affect quicken uptime due to not reacting with dendro and 20% aura tax if cryo is applied. She can also hold instructor and fav bow/elegy.
    The problem would be just circle impact for alhaitham and her burst 20s CD not really aligning with tighnari shorter rotations so elegy bursting every other rotation is fine plus instructor can still be used.
    The main point is that she is a shielder, healer, EM buffer and movement speed buffer to be in the place of zhongli, kuki and the three dendro defensive supports.

  • @----x-----
    @----x----- 3 місяці тому +6

    real PAIN is being a Noelle main with c1 Gorou and C6 Faruzan with 0 interest in ever playing Xiao or Scaramouche, RNG couldn't curse me more

    • @Cajun_Seasoning
      @Cajun_Seasoning 3 місяці тому

      one punch man?

    • @catcatcat8
      @catcatcat8 3 місяці тому

      You can have my C10 (or something like that) Noelle, she won't leave me be

    • @fiaceruleans22
      @fiaceruleans22 3 місяці тому +2

      Can we trade, my Noelle’s already C6 before Xianyun’s banner and I kept getting her while all I wanted was Faruzan cons (~110 pulls still no sight of her, stuck at C1 forever ig 💀)

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 3 місяці тому

      Fuina more important for Noelle than c6 Gorou, my friend. Don't worry too much.

    • @----x-----
      @----x----- 3 місяці тому

      @@MarionFR I lucked out with Furina and got C1 and already have Navia, Albedo, Fischl C6 and Yelan. Gorou C6 is the only important Noelle team mate I am missing to unlock her full potential.

  • @keiths2902
    @keiths2902 3 місяці тому

    Great content as always. Thanks for the video!

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks 3 місяці тому +2

    For Xinyan, her c2 makes her shield pulse with Pyro, and I think this makes her a good option in the Burnmelt Ganyu teams with Nahida. Xinyan burst has the same cooldown as Bennett burst, so this is one of the few Melt Ganyu teams that has the shorter rotation of just over 15 seconds. It counts as skill damage still, so she can hold totm, and the extra pyro can help you keep burning alive if you accidentally drop it.

  • @kurumiiiiim1245
    @kurumiiiiim1245 3 місяці тому +3

    During Ayato's banner in 2023, I was pulling for kirara and kuki constellations. I ended up with a c8 xiangling and C1 kuki and Kirara. I didn't even use xiangling until I got Navia

  • @neoinfinity5204
    @neoinfinity5204 3 місяці тому

    Much appreciated I just got C1 Yaoyao from selector and planning on doing few pulls next banner for her C2, I just upgraded my Faruzan to C6 after getting Xianyun to main her so it’s huge win, I would argue that C4 Lynette is stopping point if you don’t have spare sac sword otherwise C2 is enough or consider mains her with C6 later.

  • @Deigo_Brando
    @Deigo_Brando 3 місяці тому

    Love your videos you are on the point everytime :)

  • @lesibalto1016
    @lesibalto1016 3 місяці тому +7

    Honestly i am so sick and tired of new 4stars having like 80% of their boost at c6. Thats just bad game design imo, every constellation should matter

    • @WackyIraqi777
      @WackyIraqi777 3 місяці тому +2

      Da Wei disagrees, it's great wallet design

  • @radorei
    @radorei 3 місяці тому +2

    With 4.4 QoL updates, Barbara's C6 is actually pretty relevant, as it refreshes for every chamber (and every retry) in the Abyss

  • @Hobbitfeet01
    @Hobbitfeet01 3 місяці тому

    very nice and helpfull video, thank you!

  • @chickensky1121
    @chickensky1121 3 місяці тому +5

    Faruzan being handed out in the 3.6 event was a lifesaver, I got her to C5 on Wanderer's banner and she is SO much better at C6. More damage, more energy, can hold Tenacity, it's just massive lol.

  • @timo7641
    @timo7641 3 місяці тому +8

    Obviously the one who need Cons the most is Aloy........

  • @Riposte8
    @Riposte8 3 місяці тому +1

    Razor's main use is to get infused with a element (Bennett) and stack follow up elemental application and do a lot of reactions, because he has a weird burst.

  • @andreshidalgo7172
    @andreshidalgo7172 3 місяці тому

    @thegenshinscientist I trust you on every análisis you do. Big fan of your work. I need your wisdom: should I activate Bennet C6? I have pretty much all the characters in the game except Eula, who I don't like. Now with Gaming and Xianyun I feel the temptation to do so!

    • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
      @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 2 місяці тому +1

      Go ahead, most new characters have "elemental damage that cannot be overridden by another element" in their kit, so unless you're an Ayaka main, you're good

  • @cryingindespacito790
    @cryingindespacito790 3 місяці тому +1

    As a Dori main - Dori's C6 basically changes how you play her. It makes dendro-related teams possible, she heals WHOLE PARTY during NA. She's also becomes super fun in coop, since she's always on the field. The artifacts can change too. Like TF is best for aggravate, which is only possible with this constelation.
    If we are talking pure support, then C4 is fine.
    Also yes, I'm running dps Dori.

  • @ajbrawlstars8844
    @ajbrawlstars8844 3 місяці тому +1

    Awsome list every chars opinion is very gd 👍

  • @vilmaines9117
    @vilmaines9117 3 місяці тому +14

    TGS you are the man. Dori C 6 is my dream, i see the potential, sadly she is always on banners i am skipping, even i got ganyu trying to get Dori C2. The first abyss full stars i got it was thanks to Dori. Until now she is C 4, when she arrive to C 6 i am going to do crazy Dori runs, i love the character, she is so fun to play.

  • @yoda5358
    @yoda5358 3 місяці тому +1

    13:55, extra batterying as long as the skill is spaced out within the rotation cus of her particle generation cooldown

  • @martnsalah8941
    @martnsalah8941 3 місяці тому +1

    I am surprised you didn't mention barbrah C2 at all(it gives 15% hydro dmg and CD reduction for her skill), and like other comments pointed out her C1 is pretty good for her so maybe there is an argument for her being in C1/C2 teir ?

  • @Rpground
    @Rpground 3 місяці тому +1

    For Dori, all her cons are REALLY good. With her C1 and C2 increasing her electro application, damage and energy generation. Her C4 increasing ER and her C6 allowing her to take advantage of her abnormally high normal attack multipliers.
    I agree on the placement, but all her cons together just make her three times the character at C0...which is fitting for the character that wants all your money and so expects you to completely invest in her to get the most out of her.

    • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
      @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 2 місяці тому

      Lol that's an interesting way to look at it
      But her cons are absurdly good fr, I recently got C4 (from C1) and I'm surprised at how big a difference there is

  • @Kmn483
    @Kmn483 3 місяці тому +1

    Kaeya needing c6 hurts so much. He's like a cryo Xiangling, but Hiyo didn't want us to get the cons we need.

  • @xSunny599
    @xSunny599 3 місяці тому

    Finaly a Tier list that i can watch as a new player :D

  • @ardaoguzhan8181
    @ardaoguzhan8181 3 місяці тому +1

    Candace does have a role in nilou bloom at c6 shes pretty good

  • @hookseye
    @hookseye 3 місяці тому +2

    For Ningguang at 13:57, I think "extra batterying" is inaccurate as she has an icd for particle generation. I remember a long time ago (version 1.x) I was trying to aim for that cons to battery my noelle but was so disappointed that it doesn't work that way. Unless... there's something I don't know about?

    • @pedrohodl
      @pedrohodl 3 місяці тому

      If you wait 6s between casts she generates the energy for the 2nd screen

    • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
      @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 2 місяці тому

      You can get particles from both screens, just wait for 6s
      Her ideal rotation is Skill > go through screen, normal attack (1-2 times), CA, burst, Jade screen, repeat
      That way you get particles every screen

  • @SienAppelsien
    @SienAppelsien 3 місяці тому

    I got beidou c2 and xingqiu c3 or c4 and they feel much better to me than before. I got them on a hyperbloom team with cyno and nahida to experiment. Please dont come in and say 'eh this character is better for the lineup' because i feel comfortable with this team and love all these bubs to bits.

  • @user-wl5jt7vz2u
    @user-wl5jt7vz2u 2 місяці тому

    Now I am curious... are there any 5 stars that are dependent on constellations? Doesn't have to be on the level of Faruzan or something, but still.

  • @goodisgood153
    @goodisgood153 3 місяці тому

    Nice List

  • @THEscorpionX1
    @THEscorpionX1 3 місяці тому +1

    Between Kuki and Yanfei there should be part about Freminet, however you skip it? You place him on list but like magicly place in "Great cons all around" Little weird tbh

  • @dreamboi4268
    @dreamboi4268 3 місяці тому

    Your editor seems to have deleted the Freminet section, between Kuki and Yanfei

  • @timmythh
    @timmythh 3 місяці тому +1

    Mr. Tgs what do you think about the recent chiori changes

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +1

      I wrote abt it on my twitter yesterday :)

    • @timmythh
      @timmythh 3 місяці тому

      @@TheGenshinScientist its true :O he really does reply to every comment

  • @closetedstill
    @closetedstill 3 місяці тому

    Been playing for a couple of years and my Xiangling is still c3. Although I would have loved Gaming i chose Xiangling this Lantern Rite for her c4.

  • @Dubstep_Gun
    @Dubstep_Gun 3 місяці тому +1

    Where is talking about Barbara bloom? And about her stopping point being C2 for better uptime(6 seconds downtime)? She is strong enough to speedrun abyss.

  • @miri-vu5km
    @miri-vu5km 3 місяці тому +4

    it may sound cope but i actully like c6 barbara if you remember that u can use her in bloom. SInce her healing isnt that good, you may found urself dying sometimes

    • @gwendyylion4874
      @gwendyylion4874 3 місяці тому

      She’s a good on fielder in bloom! If you have nahida you can use her ability to apply dendro, and use Barbra to apply hydro to create lots of blooms. If you use sacrificial fragments, you will get em which make bloom stronger and it will help you get almost 100% uptime on her skill, so you won’t have to worry about dying as often!

    • @edhiepitz
      @edhiepitz 3 місяці тому

      How come her heal not good enough?

    • @miri-vu5km
      @miri-vu5km 3 місяці тому

      @@edhiepitz its kinda slow and doesnt have full uptime

    • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
      @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 2 місяці тому

      Is your Barbara at lv 20 or something? My Barbara heals 950ish per normal with Favonius Codex, I'm pretty sure that's not "low healing" unless you have C6 Kokomi

    • @miri-vu5km
      @miri-vu5km 2 місяці тому

      @@justapasserbyrandomperson9325 I mean, her healing is kinda slow. Yao Yao, Baizhu and kokomi are better than her in that aspect.

  • @deadencicle
    @deadencicle 3 місяці тому +1

    I slowly upgraded Amber to C4 and I think Baron Bunny is just too clunky and unreliable for her constellation to be considered good. I’d put her in “nice upgrades”.
    The AoE of Baron Bunny’s explosion is extremely small, so much that it often misses enemies attacking it in melee range. Baron Bunny also easily gets thrown around by enemies’ attacks.

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +4

      Well yeah its not super amazing, but it's better than what she has at c0 for sure lol. At C0 she's the worst Carry in the game numbers wise

  • @JosepiThe13th
    @JosepiThe13th 3 місяці тому +1

    Video just started and I already disagree with one of them lol. Xiangling’s C4 is a good stopping point imo. The C6 is only good for Mono Pyro teams, which aren’t very popular outside of the Lyney ones.

  • @pyronado4320
    @pyronado4320 3 місяці тому +2

    17:31 how much fanfare does a character dying and getting revived to full hp generate 🤔

  • @24Vittorio
    @24Vittorio 3 місяці тому

    Still not surprised I hit c6 itto before c6 gorou

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 3 місяці тому +1

    I dunno about Diona I feel like her c6 is pretty huge, depending on the team. Yeah it doesn't do much in freeze teams but in hyperfridge and melt teams it can be pretty huge. It is the same thing as Kazuha c2 after all, which was a highly sought after constellation a while back. Obviously it's attached to a much more desirable character so you can't compare it 1 to 1.
    I also don't really feel like Charlotte's c4 is that impactful, unless you're trying to build her for damage in a mono-cryo team or something. Mine is c1 and level 70 and she full heals my team instantly, even my chunkier ppl like Furina get from 50% to full heal. So her high ER reqs are not that much of a downside imo.

    • @catcatcat8
      @catcatcat8 3 місяці тому

      I use Diona in a Neuvillette freeze team at c0 for abyss. Though for me she's more there for her healing and very short shield, her freeze is rather handy too

    • @gna2724
      @gna2724 3 місяці тому

      I would be inclined to agree, the speedrunners are using Gaming with Diona+Rosaria since that's actually a non-scuffed Melt setup.
      I think she was easily powercrept out of freeze as Morgana died and people realized you don't actually need that much defense versus frozen enemies + Layla and Charlotte coming for her job.

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 3 місяці тому

      @@gna2724I was thinking about trying Gaming/Rosaria/Diona actually, awesome that it actually works for forward melt! I guess it's hard to get VV into there tho so Bennett is likely the last slot?

    • @catcatcat8
      @catcatcat8 3 місяці тому

      @@bjornnilsson2941 I personally find vape to work better for GaMing. (And overload the worst). A bit squishy though, but nice numbers
      Ofc that's just me puzzling for a few days

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 3 місяці тому +1

      @@catcatcat8 I hear that a lot but I'm just so sick of vape carries. So if Gaming works as a forward melt carry that would likely be more fun for me. I have been wanting that for a long time now but all the pyro carries have always had too much application hehe, so naturally I want to jump on the melt train at the first chance.

  • @georgemacdonald8667
    @georgemacdonald8667 3 місяці тому +1

    Loved this vid, but Yaoyao is the definition of "nice upgrades." I don't see any way to call her C1/C2 "massive." She's a complete character at C0 and gets no significant benefit from any con. Yes C2 helps, but have you honestly ever found yourself waiting to use a Yaoyao burst?

  • @jooticus5884
    @jooticus5884 3 місяці тому +3

    i'm begging y'all to realize that faruzan is FINE without c6. yes it's an incredible upgrade, but this idea that she's unusable/useless without it is ridiculous and makes f2p users feel like shit

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 3 місяці тому +3

      Woowww... finally someone who thinks, respect. Of course Faru doesn't need c6. This myth is ridiculous, just a meme that community repeats thoughtlessly. Not only she is fine support starting from c0 and easier to build to get good value than Yunjin or Thoma, but she is also good for more on-field role. It's viable starting from c1 and good starting from c4. Super fun and good character. Problem is - Xiao and Wanderer are not great... Well, Heizou also not amazing. So Faru doesn't have much opportunity to shine. THEY need her c6, because of how lackluster they are. While Faru objectively and in simple comparison bring more value than other niche supports, she is the BEST.
      I don't know if TGS is so clueless or just scared of confused community. Although he is a Xiao fan, so I won't be surprised if he is putting the blame of his issues on Faru, that she is not a battery for him before c6. Just like Zy0x fanboy was hating on her, pathetic.
      Well, whatever, I will enjoy my Faru and laugh on our always confused community.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 3 місяці тому

      she doesn't need the c6 but if anything it almost feels like she needs her c4. and i'm not kidding i have experienced this especially since i tend to play wanderer from time to time. but ngl the c6 does feel different than a pre c6 Faru.

    • @MarionFR
      @MarionFR 3 місяці тому +1

      @@usmanya5110 She needs c4 - only for her on-field role, cause that's when this cons shine. For off-field role it adds almost nothing as long as you don't have c6. Cause only with c6 her c4 works off-field. She's different at c6, yup. Thing is - it's so GREAT. NOT that she needs it to provide good value. Overall she simply provides more than Gorou, Sara, Yunjin, stronger buffs plus crowd control and energy at c6. Plus useful in on-field role.

  • @lathamtk
    @lathamtk 3 місяці тому

    3 banners have passed with Faruzan on them (2 wanderer, 1 birb retainer), pulled on all 3 banners until 60 pity and I STILL don't have a C6 Faruzan LOL

    • @gwendyylion4874
      @gwendyylion4874 3 місяці тому +1

      Same i only have c3 and that’s with the event Faruzan

  • @LarginMoralesIgnacio
    @LarginMoralesIgnacio 3 місяці тому +2

    hi can u do also the tier list "Refinements" for Standard and Limited weapons? 5 star. tnx

  • @Icredivm
    @Icredivm 3 місяці тому +2

    4:21 just skipped Freminet

  • @Goremize
    @Goremize 3 місяці тому +1

    Correct answer: None of them as the game is beatable without any constellation. People harp on them too much thinking they are a "requirement" when I was able to beat everything the game has on offer with a C0 Razor, faster then people with constellation'd five stars.
    You do not need constellations. They are always just a nice bonus. This is a single player game where people seem to try to compete against spenders who can one shot bosses in seconds.
    There is a reason the game should never have a leaderboard, because None of us will never be on it.
    Edit: not to mention for new players, C6 is something that may never happen on any character. There is too many characters now.

    • @namedjay62
      @namedjay62 3 місяці тому +2

      Maybe it's not necessary, but it's definitely preferable if you want the 4 star to boost a unit you like. You're thinking about this pretty narrowly; it's not about winning, it's about having fun. While you could probably beat most of the content with a solo C0 Faruzan, that doesn't make it fun to do.

  • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
    @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 2 місяці тому

    Disagree on Yanfei, C1, C4, and C6 indirectly buff her a lot
    That extra seal and stamina reduction means 0 stamina charged attacks, which means you won't run out of stamina by spamming her charged attacks, which makes her much better as a main carry.
    C4 too, it makes dodging less necessary, which means less interruption during her combos
    Her cons aren't must-have, but they're not just "a nice upgrade" either. They don't buff her damage much on paper, but when you actually play her, you see how much difference that stamina bar makes to her damage

  • @gna2724
    @gna2724 3 місяці тому

    I personally wouldn't run non-C6 Mika without Furina on a non Fischl Phys team. Yelan would likely add more damage.

  • @kudaice
    @kudaice 3 місяці тому

    I would argue Lisa requires c6 for a off field dps, to be able to get full E dmg without any set up.

  • @therealcrow6933
    @therealcrow6933 3 місяці тому

    My poor fremi got skipped in the video D:

  • @MojtaAS
    @MojtaAS 3 місяці тому

    between rosaria and diona who's better for melt? how fast do their bursts apply cryo?

    • @martnsalah8941
      @martnsalah8941 3 місяці тому

      It depends if you're running an anemo unit to absorb cryo to help out Diona much lower and slower applications, assuming you have her C6 for the 200em boost and especially if you also happen to have elegy

    • @MojtaAS
      @MojtaAS 3 місяці тому

      @@martnsalah8941 i have C6 diona but C1 rosaria and want to use gaming bennet xianyun cryo for melt team
      i just want to know if diona is any slower than rosaria cuz i already have 90% crit rate on gaming

    • @catcatcat8
      @catcatcat8 3 місяці тому +1

      Go Diona. Getting GaMing slapped out of his plunge is nasty loss of dps with or without cryo applied
      I play GaMing C6, but am still puzzling what I want for teams

    • @gna2724
      @gna2724 3 місяці тому

      With Gaming you might use both and eschew an Anemo unit for Bennett or vice versa. Diana's Cryo app on her own is ICD limited and slow.

    • @catcatcat8
      @catcatcat8 3 місяці тому

      @@gna2724 Xianyun is a plunge attack support for GaMing, not just another anemo unit

  • @marielcarey4288
    @marielcarey4288 3 місяці тому

    Mika should be at the very top of this list. C0 he may aswell not exist, c6 he needs to do his buffing job better than Bennett

  • @Error403HRD
    @Error403HRD 3 місяці тому

    My C0 Mika is smiling (totally not because I just spent all my fragile resin to replace his Noblesse Set with a Clam Set)

  • @TheBilayer
    @TheBilayer 3 місяці тому

    I have fun with candace with xianyun.
    She can plunge 30k

  • @Yasper-2TS
    @Yasper-2TS 3 місяці тому +3

    Quite frankly, this is not aimed at the video, but people recommending Xiangling to newer players need to state that only at C4 does she become more comfortable to play. I used to play her often while she's stuck on C2 and man, that burst goes away fast, making her ER requirements even higher because of less uptime. It feels abysmal to play her before C4.

    • @molinj.7174
      @molinj.7174 3 місяці тому +6

      Her er requirements stay the same tho because it always the same energy needed

    • @HahaHaha-jx4le
      @HahaHaha-jx4le 3 місяці тому

      Lol, abysmal is an overstatement. Xiangling's still good pre-c4, just not that good like s-tier and yes, er requirements doesn't change

  • @brutalterminator3868
    @brutalterminator3868 3 місяці тому

    great list, only bad take imo is xiangling, her c2 and c3 are just straight up useless i mean c3 is fine but c2 is complete useless when u play her as optimal sub-dps uniy. On the other hand her c4 is pretty huge so i'd put her in c4 tier list

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes shes there at the end

    • @brutalterminator3868
      @brutalterminator3868 3 місяці тому

      ​@TheGenshinScientist oh cool I commented before watching the final changes, my bad 😅

    • @damselettefan
      @damselettefan 3 місяці тому +7

      her c3 is actually great, since all of her damage is from her burst +3 more levels for it is very good

  • @ardaoguzhan8181
    @ardaoguzhan8181 3 місяці тому +1

    Sucrose c4 is a must for sucrose taser teams

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +7

      Not really a must but nice to have

    • @kanashiiinu9124
      @kanashiiinu9124 3 місяці тому +2

      Lol no, silly comment

    • @ardaoguzhan8181
      @ardaoguzhan8181 3 місяці тому +1

      @@kanashiiinu9124 How so? Her c4 give her more damage/ less energy requirement, more grouping and more electro charged reactions

  • @moredinorno
    @moredinorno 3 місяці тому

    Dori national will be a thing one day... one day..

  • @NataliaAgonigi
    @NataliaAgonigi 3 місяці тому +1

    Where tf are the rest of the characters

  • @jasonbuffalo6845
    @jasonbuffalo6845 3 місяці тому

    Xinyan is not a shielder , big mistake , her shield is a utility for her charge attack

  • @crt137
    @crt137 3 місяці тому +1

    Xiangling does not benefit from her own C6 because of snapshot though so it's only good on mono-Pyro. I'd put her in massive C4/good stopping point.
    EDIT: Oh you did move her - well, anyways, her C6 is a lot worse than it would first appear

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +1

      Thats where I put her later

    • @crt137
      @crt137 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TheGenshinScientistYou reply fast! I just caught that at the end. Great video though 👍

  • @SahajNagarwal
    @SahajNagarwal 3 місяці тому

    18:37 i think nilou has fastest hydro application

  • @retrowoolage
    @retrowoolage 3 місяці тому

    Xiangling c6 doesn’t work on her Q tho

  • @stephanied1024
    @stephanied1024 3 місяці тому +1

    The dream is c6 Faruzan but she keeps getting put on banners I can't pull on so my pain is immense and my disappointment is immeasurable. I want her for Xiao, but like now for example, even though I'd love her, Gaming and Cloud Retainer, I'm saving for Arlecchino so can't take the chance. Wish she was better at c0 or C1.
    I definitely am trying for c6 Kaeya too, even if it'll probably take me another year and a half to get there, lol. I recently pulled him on standard and had the kind of reaction usually reserved for 5 stars.

  • @musanetesakupwanya1050
    @musanetesakupwanya1050 3 місяці тому +3

    As a Chevreuse lover, I have to say her C6 actually ISN'T that great, in that it's got a condition that's almost always overlooked when people talk about it. I think people hear "up to +60% electro/pyro dmg after skill", and don't go any further. The on-field character needs to be healed (even overhealed) 3 times by her skill.. which is a 6 second process! Only THEN do you have +60 pyro/electro dmg. So the conditions are very restrictive, and you have to plot your rotation VERY well to get the most out of it. If anything, after her C4( burst, then skill 3 times), the C6 is more easily beneficial to HER than anyone else if you want to play very simple rotation.
    I'd say her C4 is awesome to add more sub-dps gameplay, but beyond that, C3 is great place to stop with her. And yes, C0 is great by itself cos you mainly want her 30sec atk buff which is just stack HP, hold E after overload.
    That said.. She is the most fun I've had with a character since Kazuha. She's just damn fun to play!

  • @JudahXCL
    @JudahXCL 3 місяці тому

    I know why you like dori on field.

  • @niedrzyjsietak
    @niedrzyjsietak 3 місяці тому

    I don't get how Heizou ends up in 'nice upgrades'.

  • @powwowken2760
    @powwowken2760 3 місяці тому +5

    Sara was so terribly designed that she almost needs her own category. She's not even a real character until you get her C2, then she turns into just a terrible version of Bennett until her C6 at which point she finally becomes somewhat not bad in very specific circumstances... She's just a mess.
    I also think you were WAY too generous to Mika and Gorou since without their C6's they get outclassed in their supposed niche's which makes their C6 mandatory imo.

    • @kale1287
      @kale1287 3 місяці тому +1

      Gorou does not get outclassed in his niche??? At C0 he’s still by far and away the best mono geo enabler. The point for Mika would have been valid pre Furina but post Furina we live in a world where Mika is just a healer and has nothing to do with physical.

    • @powwowken2760
      @powwowken2760 3 місяці тому

      @@kale1287 If you're only taking about Mono Geo then sure, Gorou's Geo after all, but Bennett would be a much better buffer than him on that team. Heck, even when Gorou IS C6 he still barely outperforms Bennett on Def scaling teams.

    • @kale1287
      @kale1287 3 місяці тому +2

      @@powwowken2760”If you’re talking about mono geo.”
      We were only ever talking about mono geo… Don’t say Gorou is terrible at his niche and then proceed to say “if we’re only talking about his niche.” Gorou was always designed for mono geo and nothing more, nothing less. You can complain that he’s not viable in double geo but that wasn’t the initial conversation now was it.

  • @quint2568
    @quint2568 3 місяці тому

    idk fischl needs her c6. i hate playing on accounts without it and just refuse to use her. its an entirely different character.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 3 місяці тому +1

      idk man. the c6 is nice but not really necessary, i play her alot and i still haven't got c6 and she still is stronk and her A4 passive is also a contributor here.

  • @NatWarrior1
    @NatWarrior1 3 місяці тому +2

    I generally agree with Kuki's evaluation but I'm ngl sometimes that C6 is actually such a helpful clutch especially but i think its only for SKILL ISSUE players like me. Definitely not needed just nice

    • @caprichaos
      @caprichaos 3 місяці тому +2

      100% the amount of times C6 Kuki saved my unskilled ass is embarrassing

    • @IronAmethyst
      @IronAmethyst 3 місяці тому +2

      ohmygod in the abysses of mid-Sumeru with those blasted beasts, Kuki c6 was THE constellation, actually deciding if its a clear or not :D

  • @Dodriax
    @Dodriax 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi just wanna say I love your content 🫶🏻

  • @ashtro5545
    @ashtro5545 3 місяці тому +1

    This is the first video where im a bit confused

  • @Squashua2727
    @Squashua2727 3 місяці тому +11

    Xiangling's C6 doesnt apply to her own burst. If you're just playing her with Bennet, which is most common, her C6 is entirely worthless.
    Xiangling should be a tier down in the C4 category.

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +11

      She is, I put her down there later

    • @Kota-sk8sl
      @Kota-sk8sl 3 місяці тому

      So misleading lmfao. What you meant to say is “if you’re still using Bennett as a pure healer like a moron her c6 becomes less useful”. But nobody is building pure heals bennett three years after the game came out, are they? Everyone’s Bennett does damage too, and XLs c6 buffs that. Crazy to me how people give input on things when they’re clueless, especially when resources like KQM exist.

    • @xenokingdom3630
      @xenokingdom3630 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Kota-sk8slHealer-build Bennett, while not only being easy to build, is also his best build on a C2 Furina teams, where you need to quickswap between characters and have them be healed a LOT, QUICKLY.

    • @Squashua2727
      @Squashua2727 3 місяці тому +5

      @Kota-sk8sl My Bennet doesn't deal much damage. His talents are 1/1/10 so that he knows what his only job is.

    • @flying-ship
      @flying-ship 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Kota-sk8sl​ I don't use Bennett as a pure healer (I mean who does that? There are plenty of better healers if that's what you want) but a typical, off-field, healer/buffer/sub dps Bennett still does not gain anything from Xiangling C6 does he? He only benefits from it if he's used as a main on-field dps and that's pretty niche; he also _requires his own C6_ for that role.

  • @rivernlong5979
    @rivernlong5979 3 місяці тому +4

    Mostly I agree.
    Just a few points/remarks.
    Kaeya - I disagree with. His c6 is insane, yes - but it's not a must. I'd have put him one tier lower, or maybe in the 'great cons all around'. I'd compare his c6 to XQ's.
    Otherwise:
    Xinyan - please don't forget Xinyan Burgeon?
    Sucrose - C1 makes CC much easier if you on-field her.
    Barbara - I find the con that gives her energy passively is probably her best, but really not a must.

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +6

      The main difference between xq c6 and kaeya c6 is that xq basically functions almost the same in all of his teams below c6, while Kaeya really needs his c6 to become a great melt enabler which is his best role I feel (+ the obvious dmg increase).
      + with the arrival of double hydro the extra enrrgy you get with xq is not that needed and the extra app is mostly useless

    • @SyraFunniz
      @SyraFunniz 3 місяці тому +1

      Xingyan burgeon is kinda bad cus her shield scale out of def and you need full em for burgeon dmg
      And burgeon deal self dmg so her shield get deleted very fast.
      Her shield isn't like Thoma where you can recreate them so yeah xingyan burgeon is forgetable

    • @mcake310
      @mcake310 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, Kaeya at C6 is weird. What about his reverse melt team with Rosaria?

    • @omegazeroINFI
      @omegazeroINFI 3 місяці тому

      @@SyraFunniz xinyan burgeon is legit the only way i can use her on my nowish account. it requires a lot of effort to make use of, so im glad i generally dont need to use her.

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 3 місяці тому

      barbara c1 is a joke it gives one energy every 10 secs

  • @darkheartrif
    @darkheartrif 3 місяці тому +2

    C6 Faruzan is a 5 Star change my mind

    • @escore9197
      @escore9197 3 місяці тому

      i recently got her c6 and its a huge upgrade like she becomes an anemo shenhe

  • @GruntSquad92
    @GruntSquad92 3 місяці тому +3

    hmmm. cool video.
    But a video where the focus is on f2p players who don't own these characters would be more helpful I think. You'd have to flip the tier list upside down, because characters who feel good without constellations have greater / more easily accessible value, whereas characters that "need" C6 should only be sought by people who truly love the characters
    Edit: Chevreuse for example. If she is worth playing at C0, I'd have placed her on the green tier so people know whether its worth sniping a constellation or two.

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  3 місяці тому +5

      Well I made the lower tiers the green ones for a reason ;) other than that, maybe the ranking itself doesn't fully depict it, but I think in my explanations I clarified which 4* need constellations to be good ( for chevy I spefically said shes rly good ar c0)

    • @GruntSquad92
      @GruntSquad92 3 місяці тому

      @@TheGenshinScientist true!
      I guess its only a small nitpick. I just noticed that there was a bit of a confusion between two thoughts: "when is a character worth playing" and "constellations up that level carry high value".
      Chevreuse shifting a tier towards a redder zone made me respond I think
      Either way, keep up the great work!

  • @ioanacalin8465
    @ioanacalin8465 3 місяці тому

    poggers

  • @oscara8454
    @oscara8454 3 місяці тому

    *Looks at C6 Dori.*
    I wonder how good TF is for Dori.

  • @pulhasemfiltro8178
    @pulhasemfiltro8178 2 місяці тому

    Watering

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 3 місяці тому

    You can stop at C2 for Kuki, but getting that C6 is one of the best quality of life feature to have. So many times I have reseted Abyss due to Kuki dying.

    • @philkersonchong9848
      @philkersonchong9848 3 місяці тому

      You could of put prototype amber on nahida or play double hydro hyperbloom which can afford to on field kuki for awhile to heal.

    • @MisTTwisted
      @MisTTwisted 3 місяці тому +2

      My c2 kuki has never died in abyss

  • @miggy3611
    @miggy3611 3 місяці тому

    I fully expected Faruzan to be at the top. Actually a completely different unit at C6

  • @razor5694
    @razor5694 3 місяці тому +1

    Didy guy just refer to ma boi as, her?!.. dude wtf

  • @redcloud7447
    @redcloud7447 3 місяці тому +1

    Faruzan definitely needs her own tier lmao

  • @koconnor117
    @koconnor117 3 місяці тому +1

    Faruzan needed her own tier 😂

  • @judeseminio1432
    @judeseminio1432 3 місяці тому +1

    "Playing faruzan that is not c6 is like brushing your teeth with a toothpick"
    -a certain calm, tall, charismatic streamer/throat artist/adult video maker