THIS DROP KILLED HOW MANY BASES?!?!? | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck?
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2021
- Today we have a hero of Starcraft 2, a true Terran prodigy, pretty much Clem's bigger brother - a Bronze Terran! When a Bronze player calls something imba, it must be an AMAZING replay. So smash dat like button, subscribe and enjoy our journey to the bottom of the bottomless hole!
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Finally a game of my league! It actually is very peaceful, you build some buildings, warp in some troops, f2, a click, and watch a nice battle hoping for the best.
I do this and I'm in plat lols
i actually really like that the main difference in the first few leagues is basically how many resources you float while doing this haha
I do that and I'm diamond. XD
omg a fellow bronze player who watches harstem :p
@@missbelled6700 Can't forget the frequency of supply blocks
A friend of mine once won a game in early WoL by building 3 DTs and hold-positioning them at the top of his ramp, then watching and laughing while the enemy slowly fed his entire army through the invisible meat-grinder.
What a Chad!
That is SO fucked up! "wtf this guy cheating he has invisible meat grinder wall!"
reminds me campaign mission ,,in utter darkness". In which one of the early tactics to hold enemy waves is to build dt wall xddd
Fill in the blank IODIS form:
[Unit] is IMBA. I did [thing that SC2 casters get excited about] and [use of unit's ability] then pulled back for 6-10 minutes so I could build [favorite unit]. All he did was build [IMBA unit] and it completely destroyed me! I know I [acknowledgment of fundamental weakness], but at least I [end-game score screen statistic] better than my opponent.
Bonus points if the IMBA unit is a worker/production building (because more stuff counters less stuff), but you put anything else in the form instead.
Damn, that's kinda accurate xD
perfect 🤣🤣
I like how Harstem imagines Heavensblade as a 7 year old playing his first game of SC2, but he also has a second monitor to have the game menu pulled up. 😂
Using their parents' PC ofc :P
You forgot to mention that he was eating meanwhile)))
although its a joke, this was literally me at 10 years old playing wings of liberty.
Today, after playing the game for over 10 years, I learned there was a tech tree lol
lmao same!
You must play Protoss.
That just isn't possible.
Lmao
@@matszz yeah, they didn't realize what a tech tree was... If you played for ten years without knowing that some tech unlocks other tech and units....... You haven't played. Idk what to say. You've only made probes and pylons for ten years.
You missed the best play, he had 2 mines at the end, which almost killed the whole shield of the mothership. That was the most damage he did to the army.
I felt so sad for those poor marines beeing forced to load into an almost "crashing down by itself" medivac in deep red health while carriers approaching. they must have known what was about to happen :(
Being bronze league, and submitting a game as 'Do I suck?' - now THAT'S brave. XD
It really is.
Well...if both players suck equally it might still be imba 😅
I guess the protoss player thinks marines + medivacs are imba. But he is to smart to file a complaint. He just builds bases everywhere until he manages to get a carrier fleet at one of them.
It may be not the most elegant solution but as we see, it works so good that his opponents think he is imba.
Honestly I don't think I'm really better than that, I can either micro or macro.
If I try to do both, I just stop working entirely.
I like the way the protoss realizes his weakness and works around it.
The terrain player on the other hand is like 'I watch a lot of pro gamers on UA-cam, so I'm better than that and if I still loose, it has to be imba'.
They both suck at star craft, but the protoss player may still be an intelligent person.
For bronze he doesnt suck. Seriously doing drops as a bronze?
@@balazsfenyes3880 well, doing drops and getting an advantage is not a bronze move. But doing drops and doing 10x damage of a drop to yourself is pretty much a definition of bronze. Instead of doing those "fancy drops" he could've just spent those 6-12k minerals and a-moved 200 supply to win. In time it takes him to drop 1 base he could've won bo3 with a-moves.
10:11 made me laugh way more, then it should have. Brilliant! "He doesn't even know how to build carriers. Right now, he is reading the game manual. Sometimes pressing the F12-Button..."
"He saw an immortal - back home for him it is!" We should always consider the effect of units having a psychological impact on peoples mind when we evaluate if something is imba or not Kevin!
Maybe he thought immortals were literally immortal. That would be cause for fear! Is it really worth it to take out a base if the invincible immortal will be firing for free into your army the whole time?
@@ethohalfslab my thoughts exactly :'D
BGMWSS idea treat every unit literally. If they have immortals they can’t be killed
@@anthonyc577 lmao this could have potential
My one wish for the game is that overlords could pick up enemy units. So that they could kidnap your units. That would be hilarious.
"Terran"
"3 times his APM"
Ah, shit, here we go again...
A fun stat is to look at EPM, or Effective actions pre minute. Often it shows that people who spam like this don't actually make useful clicks. Instead, they just spam in a location multiple times when a single click would've worked, inflating their "APM", but not doing anything of value.
Is that a artrosis reference?
@@BucksterMcgee as someone with relatively low apm even back when I was masters, it was always so funny when people would insult me over my apm after I won. Like... What do you think the point of those actions is lol
@@BucksterMcgee Is this an actual stat?
@@lucasinostroza3420 are you dumb? it's a meme, has no relation to artosis at all.
Tfw this got golden at first 2 minutes when Harstem went "I don't want to be too harsh on build orders" and then sees toss BO.
19:32 DTs? That's going to be the next IMBA claim. "I was winning the game, when all the sudden he attacked my base with invisible units that were impossible to target and just killed everything. Totally IMBA"
He probably felt so bad after scanning the extra 10 carriers and realised that there was more than 3.
I love how the Protoss player had 0 clicks per min at the same time while the Terrain player had 100 and the Protoss player won.
I get Allan's mindset, I used to be in that space as well. There's that limiting belief of what a good base looks like and after that you don't need to build anything more. It takes a while to push through that and develop an instinct to keep spending, keep building and keep producing no matter what happens to your army.
I don't even play SC2 and I was asking wtf Harzer was doing with so many minerals. It's like a basic tenet of RTS to spend your resources as fast as possible.
35:09 Thank you for your dedication, we don't deserve you.
Looking forward to more of the Beating Bronze With Stupid Stuff series from Heavensblade
He should start a UA-cam series with that, shouldn't he? Teaching us the strength of the f12 tech tree!
I was trying to imagine how Terran would lose, but I certainly did not expect him to lose to 3 carriers and a mothership. Thats actually badass for the Protoss not gonna lie
Protoss Imba!
Both players simply wanted the engagement to be lore accurate. 3 carriers in the lore would easily wreck a bunch of shooty bois even without the mothership needing to be there.
Right was expectin at least 7 carriers or so. Man that was so painful to watch. :D
This bronze player has definitely watched PiG's bronze to GM - exact build order and ideas. However, PiG's series (at that point) only end up at a two-base and there is no transition in the series (yet, now there is one), so this guy is just doing what he saw. The fact that he even has a build order gives it away (compared to the other guy).
35:10 this is what I imagine the POV of our Terran player's mouse was when he was clicking at 160 apm doing absolutely nothing during drops
with his headphones falling onto his keyboard as well adding some more clicks...
4:05 No, Hamster. Those are the basic tenets of war.
"All warfare is based on deception."
-Sun Tzu
Hamster it is!!! please vote that comment up, please do not edit that comment.
How can one person be an extremely talented progamer, hands down one of the best casters in the world and a comedian, who makes me laugh every 12 seconds. Your content is giving me so much quality of live, honestly keep up the GREAT work!
Yo, Heavensblade is my kinda player. You just know he's playing while watching a stream, taking care of his macro and building big bois.
Totally chill.
Harstem.. PLEASE do bronze replays more often. You going into the unit tree has me losing my marbles LOL
the best thing he did the whole game was having the thors in the correct attack mode lol i was surprised indeed
Did he? He was targeting the interceptors so high-impact was the wrong mode for how he used them no?
@@asharak84 lol i didnt watch if he did this, since his vikings were shooting wildly at interc its most likely possible, but in THEORY he had the right mode lol
LOVE the "Trade info" statistic. Despite it not showing who is in a better position after the attack, it helps see why some attacks are more devastating than others
This was really entertaining. I hard laughed at this. Thanks for the replays and commentary Bro. The classic 3-pylon opener. As a protoss I died at that.
I'm so bad at this game my average unspent resources is higher than my MMR
I love it when the epic Protoss music (you know which one) syncs with a moment of silence and disbelief on Harstem's part
as someone who played only campaign i totally understand both of the players
even the lowerst 1v1 sc implies you need
- to understand difference between light/heavy armor, anti-air/ground units
- to have a situational awareness and understanding how to counter enemy's army
- to plan your game depending on your micro/marco skills
so when you transitioning from campaign to multiplayer you have a lot of new things to learn, and it can be hard
To be honest, if you played campaign and finished it at like hard or brutal. You are more than capable of playing multiplayer, probably equivalent of plat or diamond.
"I bet if it was an it test it would be the reverse of the apm" HOLY SHIT for haaaarsh burn, I fucking love it dude
For a BRONZE player, he did a lot of things wrong, but he did a lot of stuff right also.
Still hard to get out of bronze if your don't know how to use detection
It's better to have no habits than having bad habits. The terran would be a better player if he also just zerged around the map, using his income to make more income and just build marines that he a clicks across the map once he is at 200/200.
Looking at a terran army is helpful, but our friend did worse than just not controlling them. Stim was late despite looking at the army and right clicking a single unit is worse than move commanding and then pressing stop. The way he does it, he should never look at his army ever, as he does none of the good things and several of the bad things.
Sir, he doesn't know, that marauders don't shoot in the air with these rockets. He will stay in bronze forever
The viking impression was sub worthy, well done
This was by far the most entertaining commentary I’ve seen so far. Please, more bronze games! 👌
3:10 "Aaaaah, this is kind of a classic, honestly. I've never seen it before, but..." - This is kind of a classic Harstem, honestly. I have never heard it before, but...
The way you cast games is genius. I was dying laughing around 4:20.
My theory is that the last time Allan played Starcraft 2 was in Wings of Liberty, and he was a Protoss player. Back then the marauder was a super overpowered unit that could defend against a 4 gate which was the only build order that Protoss had. Now when Allan plays this game years later he remembered being traumatized by marauders as a Protoss, so he knew that as the Terran player he was required to build them. I can't blame him, I think anyone would have done the same.
Because Winter keep delaying the Bronze League Heroes and Angry Coach, those bronze now starting to be in here 🤣
I don't get how people float 7k minerals and then send this replay in, asking "Where did it all go wrong?"
well in bronze, you just don't know these things lol
I think that Allan/Harzer didn't notice that his average unspent resources were like 7-10 times higher than Heavensblade's and workers built like 2-3 times lower.
You don't understand, he did *drops*!
I remember a match I was playing zerg during HotS addon. After attacking a protoss base I cracked his defences and destroyed 2 of his 3 bases, I could finish the game right there but I decided to buy overlords and move them to his base and poor creep oh his base. Hell of a shitfest it was. Somehow he managed to build a 150ish supply flying army and killed me :D never played again ever since.
7:08 - 7:46 that comparison is so good, I was just like that when I was in starting out haha. Great content
love ya harstem keep this imba madness coming
Heavensblade definitely has seen a Florencio game
You had fun at least ;)
Although playing against 'Toss capital ships, a lot of people have told me as Terran to build Thors, especially High Impact Payload. They do need some micro (to target down ships unless you have really good micro and mouse control where you kill all the interceptors then you use the Explosive Payload mode).
The "historical" observation that appeared at 3:30 nearly killed me XD
I love the breakdowns, but I absolutely love the roasts/insults.
So good and inspirational.
the fear of protoss is real :D i think alone the fact that terrans fear toss so much in lower leagues is the reason toss is winning even more :D
Ok that baseball bat example cracked me hard 😂😂😂😂 👌👌
The look of both "awh" and "amazement" on Harstem face. Priceless 🤣
7:28 that's how i started StarCraft it was the original + broodwar :)
That's pig b2gm 2 base all in build. But super delayed without non stop scv production xD
35:10 made me lmao for real
The best part of that Baseball / Football joke is "This is how Soccer works now!"
Edit: Like seriously, Harstem came up with that in a millisecond and it's such a deep multi levelled joke, he really truly has talent for this and he's really good at it.
I cannot get enough of the re-enactment of Vikings attacking interceptors at 35:10
2:45 At least he isnt supply blocked!
HAHA! The CLASSIC Protoss opener of 3 pylons and 2 assimilators before a gateway. Gotta love it.
Hamster! I need the ‘pings’ when you add your insight to the game. That sound is my cue to pay attention!
"He has a timed switch for macro or drops"
Now this....this sounds like a good harstem challenge.You can either only build units and micro probes, or you can only micro units - swapping every 30 seconds.
This reminds me of my first few games :single tear:
0:05 Yes. Totally imba. Case closed. No more thing to discuss.
Yo I always get so happy everytime I watch your really creative videos. Much love from the Philippines!
Back in 2013 when I started to play SC2, I was in gold. My opponent was massing void rays. I remember I was opening unit tab quite often, just to see which unit should I make. I previously played WC3, where units have a hard counter.
He initially came with 2 or 3, I barely defended. I opened the unit tab, phoenix counter void ray, it's produced from a stargate. Next time he came he had like 6-7 voids, I already had 4-5 phoenixes. To my suprise, I lost that fight...
Learning the hard way that some of the recommended counters require micro to act as a counter. I legit learned Carrier rush strategies simply because I could not pay attention to both micro and macro, and counters were hard for me to pull off because of that.
@@GeneGear You can't really micro phoenixes against void rays, unless you have a range upgrade - which I didn't have for sure. I could both micro and micro - that was the only reason why I started from the gold league. I knew very little about the game, just liked the commentary on some esport event.
There are some hard counters, like stalker vs immortal. Probably that's why I thought it'll be the same in the case above. You can't really read during playing the game, that unit does bonus damage against light/heavy/biological etc - no time for that.
There is no good counter to void ray - that's why this unit was pretty weak for a long time, to prevent massing them in PVP. Pretty problematic unit.
People got better, they know how to play around it, so it was possible to make a void ray stronger.
Phoenixes surely can beat void rays - void ray is over 50% more expensive. But when the numbers are equal, or you have less phoenixes and the numbers are small - no upgrades, then void rays can win.
18:58 thought that marine was mowing the lawn or something :D
Another thing about the "several drops" they were just mineral farms basically, maybe a little bit of defense but they were just nothing bases that he rebuilt with ease. Yes it is where the game spawned him as his main base but he quickly made his first proxy his main base which was never touched. Not to mention, as you said, EMP that is how you combat carriers, as soon as you see carriers being used, make something that can emp them.
36:35 i am in tears :D :D :D
Pure gold! Especially 35:10
Harstem milking the timer by explaining all the game mechanics xD
I love his analogies and metaphors so much
This gives me a "Bronze league Heroes" vibes, hope we get more of those.
Normally the terran TPM goes crazy after seeing airtoss but this Terran doesn't know about TPM (turrets per minute)
well, pro terrans don't build a lot of turrets, why should he?
This was truly a game of "I do whatever I want" vs "I do whatever I've seen pros do"
@@dominikmagnus I mean low ELO players usually do a lot of panic turrets as Terrans
New idea: Harstem Meetup, we all go to a new bar and noone talks to each other.
I bet Harstem could beat me if I had DTs and he had no detection.
Very possible. You can still kill them with storm or disruptors or just destroy the opponents base while he wastes time with chasing workers.
@@Leonhart_93 I wasn't thinking of storm, was definitely thinking of disruptors. Base trade would be an easy win. Of course, he would need to hold back to succeed in this challenge. He could very easily destroy me before I even get DTs.
It would be like in an MMORPG, when you have a quest that requires you to get an enemy to low health and then use an item on them. And then you kill them and go, "what's the next step?"
This video made me want to play the game even tho i know i suck at it just on the off chance i could have my ineptitude be revealed and drolly lampooned by this man... so good >.
Those info cards are next level, really nice format with the opening letter as well.
Your game analysis is very entertaining to watch.
10:50 makes me think of the old "hardest race" meme with the sweaty speedrun guy lmao
The putting the screenshot in paint thing made me laugh so much.
24:10 Harstem in rare form today lmbo
35:10 Vikings going like this. I lost it.
LOL Fantastc job my friend!!! this is why your views are going up up up!! :]
I love this episode :D. Havensblade is my hero!
6:38 I thought that's how Scottish people play (European) Football...
i had this "A strain of any of the layers of the intercostal muscles can cause pain and difficulty breathing" for a couple of days now,cant really laugh without pain(severe pain) you almost killed me . well played sir. well played.
Heavensblade with the goat A move of the Century! I was excited at the end :D
That comparison of this game with football and baseball players is the most correct description of bronze and low silver league games. So accurate that i almost died
Heavensblade hiding the carriers so that Harzer will build marauders, worked perfectly, 150 IQ move.
The irony lies in he complains about his oponent "just a-moving" and winning. But there were several point in the match in which if he a-move he would´ve won
the chad Heavensblade
-never seen a guide in his life
-doesn't know what a build order is
-just makes the funny pyramid 3 times before scouting
i have never laughed so hard during a harstem video. great video! pls more of the low elo gameplay
35:10 epic gamer moment
What a masterpiece. Pls more of that
Thank you for adding an orbital command energy chart Editor!
0:00 Where has this guy been?
Haven't played starcraft (or the craft as i call it) in probably 12 years. for some reason this got recommended to me. you're pretty funny.
I screamed "MARAUDERS DONT SHOOT UP!" at my screen more than once this game
35:10 LOLOLOLOLOLOL
very funny Harstem, laughed a lot :)