Great content man! One thing that wasn’t correct was the lift spacer and height you mentioned. Rear solid axle lifts are exactly how tall the spacer is. 1in spacer = 1 inch lift. Independent suspensions are different though and like you said, are not what they seem. For example, a 2 inch lift or leveling kit will probably use a 1 inch spacer to achieve that desired lift if the lower strut mount is located directly in the center of the lower A arm. So whatever length that extends the strut or spring downward (spacer) doubles in total height at the far lower end of the A arm (tire) 👍🏽👍🏽 not putting you out there or anything but just wanted you to know!
Also, if you're in a hurry, you can use a standard hockey puck to convert the rear axle to a coil spring. Hockey puck, nut, bolt, washers, lower spring isolator (upper spring isolator)
If you look closely at some of the airbag delete kits, it resembles a hockey puck and a bolt! I'm sure this is what alot of designers based their kit off of. Now I don't know the proper threading or bolt size you need and you won't be able to figure that out unless you take out your airbag first haha. This could work if you are really pinching pennies.
Thing to note: the axle hits the bump stops on the frame before the axle hits these cone-shaped isolators, so you don't really need the full-cone isolators. A standard spring isolator like the Eibach kit would work just the same.
Yup! I wanted to note this in the video but I couldn't confirm it 100%. Note that factory bump stops are designed for airbags...not for springs so they are a bit longer. Therefore your axle will hit the factory bump stop before they even come close to these "cone" bumps in the spring. The Ironman 4x4 spacers also have the same slim profile that just help rest the spring. This brings me to my next video I'm recording is how to install OFF-ROAD bumpstops!
Those frame bump stops also protect your shocks from bottoming out and destroying them, so I don't think you'll get more functional travel, but will get the possibility of smashing your shocks. You can go with the Dobinsons "Long Travel" ("Mid" / Medium Travel) setup for more travel, but those come with longer bump stop spacers, so they don't destroy those shocks -- and you will also need new/longer (inner) rear brake lines to safely handle the additional travel
@@10K2HVN My buddy is running dobinson LT and he likes it. It's a great budget set up anyone interested in a long travel for the GX. It works very well and serves it purpose.
I just got Foam Cell Pro kit installed and I am in love. There is not much information on the web in regards to this kit but it is truly a great kit. Glad to have another GX repping Ironman! I'm working on a well deserved review video of the suspension so stay tuned!
Glad to help and it saved me alot of money! After spending so much money on lift kit, it hurt that I had to spend some extra dough just to delete the air bag. Now go lift that GX!
For my 2005 with KDSS, I went with a 2.5 front and a 2" rear which leveled out my car. Note that the GX470 already comes with an approximate 1" rake which means the rear is 1" higher from factor than the front. For example.. if you got a 2" lift all around, it would visually look like a 2" in the front and a 3" lift in the rear. Even with KDSS, don't be afraid to go up to a lift of 3" as I know another GX that has done the same with no issues. Keep in mind you will be needing to be upgraded UCA if you go anything past 2.5" lift. I ended up going with Ironman foam cell pro because it was priced very well considering the performance I get from it. So far... been very happy with the purchase. Be sure to subscribe as I'll be doing a video review on the lift-sharing my experience from local roads, highway, mountain driving, and off-road performance! Hope this helps!
@@GXOFFROADTake this for what you will. The only reason to lift is to fit bigger wheels. The wheels are what's giving us extra clearance, the lift is to help make room for the bigger wheels. Going to 3,4,5,6 inches on shocks/springs will bring problems not clearance.
My 2013 460 Premium dash display says "Check Air Suspension" 24/7 after the air bag delete and lift installed. I've read up on it to install washers between the bolt and body on the rear height sensors on both sides. Did that and still getting the message on my display. I'm trying to figure out any other way to trick the computer but to no avail so far. Searched and searched online, too. Any input from others here would be welcome!!!
Thanks for this vid. I like that you talk clearly. How strong are the gx axles and beer fields? I come from the Jeep world and ended up replacing my axles with d44/d60 and alloy axles, Detroit’s and ctm’s to run 37’s. And sparing all that and driveshafts too. I don’t run the harder trails like the hammers or surprise canyon any more. Too old, so I’m thinking lifting the gx for some mild trails would take the jeeps place.
Do you have any photos of it installed? How much lift do those coils alone create? I didn’t realize the top spring locator would cause that much more of a lift.
Great vid man. Really appreciate it. Could you let me know what parts you ordered in regards to the front and rear? I’m new to GX and just trying to get all parts necessary to make it work. Also, did you use airbagman for airbag delete? Do you have a vid on that? Thank you.
I love the ride on my Ironman Foam Cell pro. To me anything suspension that can ride better than stock is an improvement. So whatever you do... as long as it can perform well on highway and off road, it's a win in my book. Mileage is about the same but theoretically.. a lifted vehicle should have slightly reduced mileage due to aerodynamics. Hope this helps!
Thank you for the video and information within it. Got a stocked 2007 GX 470, been getting around to lifting/deleting the air suspension but not enough time to do research. Mainly used for everyday driving. From time to time it would see dirt/mud. What lift kit do you have and what do you recommend? (Better to pay more?) Also tires/rims recommendations? Also do you have a Instagram page? Would like to follow your build.
Sure thing. You can follow my build at @gxphan on Instagram! It all really depends on your budget and what you want to get out of your car. If you are just doing dirt/mud, fire roads, and soft trails, the best budget lifts are either from Dobinson, Eibach Pro, or Ironman nitro. You should be able to get a lift kit for under $1000. I'll be making future videos on what rims and tires I would recommend and what suspension set up you need if you go from 32s, 33s, or even 35s!
It works very well! No complaints so far and everything fits perfectly. I don't hear any noise or squeaking coming from the back and I haven't seen any reduction in performance. It's a great budget option! It does it's job so save your self some money.
I brought a set of ironman 2inch lift spring for my gx470.. the springs lifted the rear 4 inches not 2. called ironman 4x4 and was told that they wouldn't take them back because I installed them.. WHAT BULL SHIT! from the ground to the mid section of the wheel well was 34 1/2, after it was 38 1/2.. beware..
Almost at 100 Subscribers! Thank you for the support and I'll be pumping out a lot more videos. Stay tuned!
Great content man! One thing that wasn’t correct was the lift spacer and height you mentioned. Rear solid axle lifts are exactly how tall the spacer is. 1in spacer = 1 inch lift. Independent suspensions are different though and like you said, are not what they seem. For example, a 2 inch lift or leveling kit will probably use a 1 inch spacer to achieve that desired lift if the lower strut mount is located directly in the center of the lower A arm. So whatever length that extends the strut or spring downward (spacer) doubles in total height at the far lower end of the A arm (tire) 👍🏽👍🏽 not putting you out there or anything but just wanted you to know!
Also, if you're in a hurry, you can use a standard hockey puck to convert the rear axle to a coil spring. Hockey puck, nut, bolt, washers, lower spring isolator (upper spring isolator)
If you look closely at some of the airbag delete kits, it resembles a hockey puck and a bolt! I'm sure this is what alot of designers based their kit off of. Now I don't know the proper threading or bolt size you need and you won't be able to figure that out unless you take out your airbag first haha. This could work if you are really pinching pennies.
Thing to note: the axle hits the bump stops on the frame before the axle hits these cone-shaped isolators, so you don't really need the full-cone isolators. A standard spring isolator like the Eibach kit would work just the same.
Yup! I wanted to note this in the video but I couldn't confirm it 100%. Note that factory bump stops are designed for airbags...not for springs so they are a bit longer.
Therefore your axle will hit the factory bump stop before they even come close to these "cone" bumps in the spring. The Ironman 4x4 spacers also have the same slim profile that just help rest the spring. This brings me to my next video I'm recording is how to install OFF-ROAD bumpstops!
@@GXOFFROAD will deleting the factory gx bump stops and going with aftermarket give you more travel ?
Those frame bump stops also protect your shocks from bottoming out and destroying them, so I don't think you'll get more functional travel, but will get the possibility of smashing your shocks.
You can go with the Dobinsons "Long Travel" ("Mid" / Medium Travel) setup for more travel, but those come with longer bump stop spacers, so they don't destroy those shocks -- and you will also need new/longer (inner) rear brake lines to safely handle the additional travel
@@10K2HVN My buddy is running dobinson LT and he likes it. It's a great budget set up anyone interested in a long travel for the GX. It works very well and serves it purpose.
I've had Ironman's Stage 2 Nitro kit on for a month. Love it so far.
I just got Foam Cell Pro kit installed and I am in love. There is not much information on the web in regards to this kit but it is truly a great kit. Glad to have another GX repping Ironman! I'm working on a well deserved review video of the suspension so stay tuned!
Dang I just threw away my 3g 4runner top cap and now I need it
I'm always down for more GX vids on youtube! Sub'd!
We definitely need it. Editing my next video as we speak! We had a blast on our last trip.
There’s 2 other guys that did the rear air suspension delete. They provided part numbers I’m new subscriber from Alaska. Good green on spring
Most folks do the air bag delete. It is a great suspension upgrade as most folks don't even use the airbag suspension.
Love your videos! This is a great affordable option! Thanks!
Glad to help and it saved me alot of money! After spending so much money on lift kit, it hurt that I had to spend some extra dough just to delete the air bag. Now go lift that GX!
Got my pair rear spring isolator from the junkyard for $20 of a 4th Gen 4runner . . .
Great deal! that another great way to find it!
Did you get rid of the GX or what?
I also have kdss. Can you tell me what spring/shocks (inches in lift) you used for front and rear?
For my 2005 with KDSS, I went with a 2.5 front and a 2" rear which leveled out my car. Note that the GX470 already comes with an approximate 1" rake which means the rear is 1" higher from factor than the front. For example.. if you got a 2" lift all around, it would visually look like a 2" in the front and a 3" lift in the rear. Even with KDSS, don't be afraid to go up to a lift of 3" as I know another GX that has done the same with no issues. Keep in mind you will be needing to be upgraded UCA if you go anything past 2.5" lift. I ended up going with Ironman foam cell pro because it was priced very well considering the performance I get from it. So far... been very happy with the purchase. Be sure to subscribe as I'll be doing a video review on the lift-sharing my experience from local roads, highway, mountain driving, and off-road performance! Hope this helps!
@@GXOFFROAD thanks for the detailed response. I'm already subscribed. Looking forward to the vid!
@@GXOFFROADTake this for what you will. The only reason to lift is to fit bigger wheels. The wheels are what's giving us extra clearance, the lift is to help make room for the bigger wheels. Going to 3,4,5,6 inches on shocks/springs will bring problems not clearance.
I don't understand how the lift on the rear axel would be magnified. Can someone explain this to me?
If the rear suspension was independent then yes. But the rear on the GX is a solid axle so it doesn't. The front is a different story.
So it's pretty much certain that I should delete my airbag suspension for overlanding? I keep hearing people tell me both for multiple reasons
Delete my friend
Does the computer throws an error or any light on the panel by removing the airbag?
My 2013 460 Premium dash display says "Check Air Suspension" 24/7 after the air bag delete and lift installed. I've read up on it to install washers between the bolt and body on the rear height sensors on both sides. Did that and still getting the message on my display. I'm trying to figure out any other way to trick the computer but to no avail so far. Searched and searched online, too. Any input from others here would be welcome!!!
Thanks fam!
Thanks for this vid. I like that you talk clearly.
How strong are the gx axles and beer fields?
I come from the Jeep world and ended up replacing my axles with d44/d60 and alloy axles, Detroit’s and ctm’s to run 37’s. And sparing all that and driveshafts too.
I don’t run the harder trails like the hammers or surprise canyon any more. Too old, so I’m thinking lifting the gx for some mild trails would take the jeeps place.
Hey that's where my top hats went LOL
I grabbed them when you were sleeping LOL
Do you have any photos of it installed? How much lift do those coils alone create? I didn’t realize the top spring locator would cause that much more of a lift.
Great vid man. Really appreciate it. Could you let me know what parts you ordered in regards to the front and rear? I’m new to GX and just trying to get all parts necessary to make it work. Also, did you use airbagman for airbag delete? Do you have a vid on that?
Thank you.
This is the vid on that
What height iron man springs are those .Is it 1.5" stock lift
Thanks! Looking forward to the next video! Your subscriber and a fellow GX owner
Glad to help and thank you for the support!
Any updates on the 13.6" Screen Mod?
Do you get any codes on your dash after air bag delete?
There’s 3 fuses you pull out. 2 under the hood and 1 under the steering column.
How does the GX drive after the suspension lift? Is it still a smooth ride? What was the difference you saw in gas mileage?
I love the ride on my Ironman Foam Cell pro. To me anything suspension that can ride better than stock is an improvement. So whatever you do... as long as it can perform well on highway and off road, it's a win in my book. Mileage is about the same but theoretically.. a lifted vehicle should have slightly reduced mileage due to aerodynamics. Hope this helps!
96-2002 Spring seat not available. Can I use the 4th gen 4runner one. Part # 48302-35040
Thank you for the video and information within it.
Got a stocked 2007 GX 470, been getting around to lifting/deleting the air suspension but not enough time to do research.
Mainly used for everyday driving. From time to time it would see dirt/mud.
What lift kit do you have and what do you recommend? (Better to pay more?)
Also tires/rims recommendations?
Also do you have a Instagram page? Would like to follow your build.
Sure thing. You can follow my build at @gxphan on Instagram! It all really depends on your budget and what you want to get out of your car. If you are just doing dirt/mud, fire roads, and soft trails, the best budget lifts are either from Dobinson, Eibach Pro, or Ironman nitro. You should be able to get a lift kit for under $1000. I'll be making future videos on what rims and tires I would recommend and what suspension set up you need if you go from 32s, 33s, or even 35s!
Great fucking video bro. Very informational. Keep making vids bro. And how did it work out on your whip? Is it good ?
It works very well! No complaints so far and everything fits perfectly. I don't hear any noise or squeaking coming from the back and I haven't seen any reduction in performance. It's a great budget option! It does it's job so save your self some money.
Where’s the rest of the content?
I brought a set of ironman 2inch lift spring for my gx470.. the springs lifted the rear 4 inches not 2. called ironman 4x4 and was told that they wouldn't take them back because I installed them.. WHAT BULL SHIT! from the ground to the mid section of the wheel well was 34 1/2, after it was 38 1/2.. beware..
Hey that's me
Thanks for the tip and spot his sick rig at 0:05!
Can’t wait for more content. Excited to see that cute face....I mean car
hmmm.. My time or trying to save $200 to $300, I'll pay the extra...