The worst part is that if Disney didn't want to redesign Tinkerbell... they could have avoided her injury in the first place. Periwinkle could have gotten this spot in the story and Tinkerbell could have created accessibility solutions for her...
... I never thought of that but dang it it's cool Let's be fair though if she didn't break her Wing people would be calling it out for not following its own pot to do it because there's no way she could have made that flight without doing it this is the way of not getting yelled at for breaking their own rules while also not having any consequences And we already had periwinkle's wings nearly break already so doing it again probably would have been repetitive
@@lahlybird895 I mean with the magical twin thing they could've just made it so that tink can exist in both realms without breaking her wing in the first place.
I was interested to see if there was a change story line. And yes there was. There was a lost movie. The plot was tinker bell’s sister believing it is her fault that her sister can’t fly leaves winter zone for the legendary cave of knowledge in the far far south in the South Pole. However she gets as far as Antarctica before she is captured by humans. Tinker gets a message from the two rulers and a squad is sent but a nasty storm keeps them from flying. A flash flood happens. Being unable to fly she uses a leaf to leave pixie hollow do get across to mainland Europe she gets help from her human friend from the third movie. She help tink build a glide path. She makes it to the lab. However her broken wing is almost completely torn off. However the winter fairies show up and they make it to the cave. And it is in a completely different language that only tink is able to read. Those who are ground by fate, or disobedience. Will walk the land to this cave one by wing one by feet. Those who are true in their beliefs shall solve this riddle: All fairies are different or are they? The answer is closer than you thought. The cave drops them into a stream of pixies dust which takes them back to the tree. The tree is once again being threatened by a cold curse. And they frost saves it again but tink get caught outside and is frozen. Her sister puts her wings next to tink. And the ice curse is broken. They discover that their wings are exactly the same and due to the rush ti frost the tree tink sister gets her wing torn to. But just before they part they make a wing promise to never feel guilty and that’s when tink wing starts to heal. The ANSWER IS TWIN FAIRIES TINK SHOUTS. And tink finally flies with her sister once more.
There is apparently a fairy in the books who got her wings torn off or something. Cuz fairies can’t swim and they’d lose their flight. So this one fairy learns to be a swimmer to save a fellow fairy, and everyone reacts fine and things go back to normal again, with her adapting as a flightless fairy just merrily. I read it once in an antique store out of curiosity and then put it down cuz I didn’t want it enough to take it home
Yeah, that's Rani! She's a water-talent fairy. I think she became an ambassador to the mermaids afterwards, because she can swim now anyways so she might as well.
I would love to see a video on Rani! She is such an interesting character. I think she cut her wings off willingly, and i think she was given an opportunity to get her wings back but she refused. She finds upsides to being wingless, like swimming and sleeping on your back. Definitely a cool future topic!
Her name was Raine, if I remember correctly. The guardian of the fairies was a mother dove, and Raine dove into the water to save her precious egg. Since fairies can’t fly if their wings get wet, she cut off her wings and dove into the sea. She was always my favorite fairy from the books. I love how some of the other fairies would walk with her even though flying was their instinct, and I loved how unbothered she seemed by her lack of wings, and how she didn’t really consider herself a hero. She considered herself to be just like any other fairy, just one that struggled with her mobility in a world made for creatures that can fly.
i read the disney fairy books religiously as a kid, and one of tink's best friends in that series was rani, a water fairy who lost her wings and got around on a bird. to this day she's one of the fairies i remember the most. the books were REALLY good so if you ever get the chance, i recommend reading them
I agree!! …Except for the Wand One. That…got into neurodivergency ableism. I’ll choose to believe it wasn’t intentional but it was so horrible to read a ND-coded toddler was “incomplete/lacking a soul” when in many ways Prilla felt ND-Coded already.)
me too! The only other fairy I remember just as well was Silvermist and it's partially because I could never remember which of the two lost their wings.
@@anonymousfellow8879 There's another "incomplete" fairy, Iris. I thought it was an (admitted shaky) attempt to parrallel genetic disorders like Down Syndrome
I'm not even physically disabled. But I was so disappointed when her wing got fixed. I was excited to see what type of machinery she would come up with to make walking faster. Or getting up to high places. She literally built a flying ship in one of the movies cause she wouldn't be able to fly the whole way! And you're telling me her getting a broken wing would somehow stop her from being the same Tink we know and love? Most of her job as a Tinker doesn't even require her to fly. She spends most of her time at a desk tinkering. It barely would have changed anything. Quite frankly, they lost out of selling some new toys there. And that confuses me more. Cause Disney loves money????
I thought it pretty obvious. It was just like a fake-out death, something to get a last emotional blow before the big sparkly triumph. Sure, I can think of a few movies who don't do this optional step, and some high-quality movies like httyd who do it better than the rest, but it's still a common trope, an easily ignored habit. Nothing against tropes, they're just tools. Tinkerbell is a franchise created for easy money, the team responsible probably just didn't think there was any message to be had.
I'd also like to add that it wouldn't be impossible for Tink to move around flightless, even without an owl. In The Pirate Fairy, a personal favorite of mine from the series, Zarina moves around fine. She doesn't fly because she uses her Pixie Dust for alchemy and other than some stares and jokes from others, she has no issues! And the bullying probably wouldn't happen to Tink as much, because Zarina didn't fly by choice while Tink would be disabled. And they're friends in the movie, so not flying could've been a bonding moment between the pair and why didn't they do that?! TL:DR I am mad.
Yea like Zarina could have been an awesome outfit for a disabled Tink! And I can imagine a scenario where Tink runs away with Zarina because of the shared not flying, and a lot of panic ensues with Pixie Hallow’s practically tinker savior mysteriously disappearing, along with the known trouble maker pixie dust fairy, a witch hunt ensues and I would still be a powerful role to stick Tink in, having her stand up and going “Leaving was my choice.” And it would be a big moment because people would realize that Tink is still fully capable of being an awesome tinker fairy as most of their work is on ground. The only reason why they panicked is because in other movies she was known to fly off and collect things to tinker with. I’m getting ahead of myself. Moral of the text is: Zarina & Tink run away to prove something, Pixie Hallow Panics, about to exile Zarina, Tink goes “Dude it was my idea”
tbh the only reason why I agree with healing her wing back to normal is bc the tinkerbell movies take place before she meets peter pan, to which we know she's perfectly capable of flying. I will say it doesn't make sense to break her wing in the first place only to fix things immediately but I was a kid when this came out and all I thought was "ooh pretty sparkly wings" 😂
@@LeiaLouise yup! In the pirate fairy "James" is actually captain hook when he was younger! I assume he must have traveled back to the mainland at some point and aged before ever running into peter
the thing is, the fairy books take place AFTER peter pan. in the disney canon, he is shown to be a better person and more mature in the sequel, which maybe could have led to him leaving, thus, the tinkerbell movies would start after that. they screwed up by making them prequels.
@@lilenwasnothere6867 that doesn't work tho bc the story begins at her birth, and in at least the next 3 movies her demeanor is very young and curious bc she's learning things that the other fairies already know, being blue dust, talking to humans, and the winter woods
That bit never made sense in any of the movies. Fairies apply dust on their own wings to fly, but humans fly without wings. So a common fan theory is that dust on the fairies bodies enhance their powers, while dust applied directly on their wings allows them to fly.
You're forgetting (or unaware) that Pixie Dust is super-ultra-maxi-extreme rare, and there's so little available that they mete out small rations to fairies. Even though Tinkerbelle personally invented a way to collect like ten times more than before... and the fact that fairies used to produce it naturally, so much in fact that a single fairy could easily coat an entire pirate ship with it if she felt like it.
Even as a child I felt so disappointed when Tinkerbell losing her wings was seen as this awful, dreadful thing, when it's clear that other things can be used as mobility aids and flying machines exist. And even then I was confused because they flew over the winter woods in the first film no problem!
I have to admit that I never thought of tinker bells cracked wing as an actual disability when I was a kid I just thought that since it was only torn that they would be able to fix it easy unlike the kings wing that was totally ripped off, I thought of it more as a deep cut that needed stitches then a ripped off arm.
Yeah it did kinda seem that way to me too. Like the injury just happened. This wasn’t a character who had been disabled for a while. It was a character who just got hurt getting healed.
I was so disappointed in this movie fixing Tinkerbell's wings with some unexplained and dumb magic just because. There were so many opportunities for disabled character like her! She's a tinker fairy for god's sake, she could always create some machine and sprinkle it with the fairy dust instead! So many opportunities missed just because they didn't feel like this movie having any impact on the main character in future...
What do you expect from a Disney movie? Don't get me wrong, I like their movies as much as the next person but they often pull stuff like this and unless you have some form of influence or power on how to make their movies, I do not see a point in complaining about it.
But, at the same time, why would you want to suffer, if a liability to you? Sure "No discrimination and victim blaming!" should always be promoted, but long story short, why wouldn't you want to have the energy and/or technology that could also collectively (re)evolve you and not be stuck divided, in trauma and tribalism, which just continues to destroy all of us, collectively?
What makes this so disappointing is that Tinkerbell is a tinker fairy! It would've been so cool to see her design a machine to help substitute her wings or even to create nodes of transportation for other fairies who injure their wings. There was a lot of potential that got completely wasted
Even in our world fragile butterfly wings can be fixed using superglued parts of dead butterfly wings, but that would've been too realistic and dark for a kids film. :P Healing Tinkerbells wing with magic is like giving Captain Hook a new hand.
@@yubikyu As far as I'm aware, super glue was first invented to glue injuries and is actually pretty safe on organic materials. it's even recommended to use this stuff on injured dog paws! And butterflies often don't have the longest lifespans eitherway, so the super glue wouldn't do much damage in the short time it's 'in use'
As a twin with a disability myself, this really interested me. There aren't many non-identical same gender twins in anything anyway and while integrating twins into cultural conflict stories is pretty common, it's rare to see that done with cultures that get along and it's really interesting to see them integrate twinship into their cosmology as an actual substantial thing. With that said, yeah not a great fan of co-opt heals. This used to annoy me so much that every time it happened I would spend days writing out versions of the story where it didn't. The number of Dragon Ball without Senzu Beans etc ideas I ended up wracking up was truly ridiculous.
I am genuinely curious how you would approach Dragon Ball without Senzu Beans. I remember Future Trunks' timeline doesn't have them anymore. Would you also take out things like Piccolo regrowing his arm :?
if Rani can trade her wings and have a whole book focusing on the frustrations it brings her, Myka can straight up almost lose her vision to a deadly illness, AND Lord Milori (who I thought was Lord Galori) can have a permanent disability, I don't see why they can't imagine it for Tink. She's literally the best fairy talent to deal with it! Edit: For those claiming Tinker Bell had to get her wing back because of Pixie Hollow being a prequel to Peter Pan, you are valid, but Disney is not. They retcon things all the time, especially for remakes or otherwise. Also I saw Peter Pan as a child _and_ the Tinker Bell movies and literally never made the connection lmao, kids aren't the brightest.
One of the reason this makes me ANGRY is that the water dairy in the movies, is a wingless fairy in the books. She literally is a flightless fairy and is happy to be so,even if she can fly thanks to a bird her friend. When I saw her in the movies as a fairy with wings I felt so so bad... Edit: Big fail. In the version in my language they have the same name, but in english their names are different. I thought they just redesigned her for the movies, avoiding her disability, but they just made another character. Sorry for the confusion ^^
@@lahlybird895 ah?? Thank you for the clarification. They have the same name in the edition of my language so I thought the movie just redesigned her :0c
Speaking of disabled fairies, there was a book I loved as a kid called Fairy Rescue which is about an asthmatic girl who befriends a one-winged fairy. It always stood out to me because it's dark for a little girls' book.
Have you read the fairies of pixie hallow books by chance? In it Rani, a water fairy ends up up cutting her wings off in order to swim. I can't recall why she did that but she has always been my favorite fairy precisely because she's disabled and it was treated so normally. This is just part of who she is. I will worn you that in one book she is given/forced to have (both it's complicated) replacement wings. However this is very much seen as a bad thing that's only good at first and causes more issues for her (in a very fantasy "oh no what happened" way ) and is undone by the end of the book.
she cut her wings because if she kept them she would have drowned and she needed to get to the bottom of mermaid lagoon to get a comb from a mermaid in order to appease this dragon so he would fix mother dove's egg i don't know if the water wings were ever treated as bad so much as the way she got them was. she needed wings to help her friends but she selfishly wanted to keep swimming so she broke the 1 wish rule and made multiple wishes with the wand so she could have the water wings and be friends with the mermaid
There’s also “Rani and The Mermaid Lagoon” (I think it’s called that?) which calls specific attention to her lack of wings and how it can sometimes affect her performance in activities that other fairies can do just fine, but for the most part it’s just Vidia shaming her over nothing and Rani realizing by the end that she’s just as capable as (if not more than) her peers
@@sophiaredwood5825 that one and "trouble with tink" were my first 2 books! and i remember her lack of wings actually helped her in the end because she was able to retrieve these special pearls that lit up he fountain which everyone loved through her swimming
Excerpt from ‘In the realm of the Never Fairies: The secret world of pixie hollow’ Rani Of all the water talent fairies, rainy is the most passionate. She loves rainy days and splashing in puddles. She even knows how to whistle mermaid songs. Her favorite dreams are swimming dreams. Rani can do amazing, magical things with water: bounce it like a ball, mold it into the shape of a fish, or scoop it up in her fingers without losing a drop. She can also help her fellow fairies with water-related things, such as getting water to boil faster. Rani is the only fairy and pixie hollow who can swim. This is because she has no wings - she sacrificed them on the quest to save Mother Dove’ egg. She’s not entirely have unhappy about losing her wings since she’s always long to swim, though she misses being able to fly on her own. Now Rani flies with the help of Brother Dove. Whenever she needs him, Rani whistles, and Brother flies to her side and carries her whatever she needs to go.
unfortunately i think the reason that lord miloris disability was handled so well was because the writers didnt even see it as or think about it as a disability :/ i could be wrong though
I feel as though of all the "magic" out of nowhere fixes they could have used this one wasn't entirely harmful. Twins (identical specifically) do often give unique opportunities in a medical emergency, being almost perfect for transplants. So in terms of giving children unrealistic rep its not nearly as uncalled for as it could be. But it would have been cool if they made it a more permanent part of her character.
@@bdariamihaela retcon is short for retroactive continuity- it means to change established parts of the story to match the current one. for example, in the first tinkerbell movie, there are leaders for each season (not including lord m'lord). secret of the wings ret-cons this by having queen clarion be the leader over three seasons.
@@bdariamihaela FWIW when a general English dictionary does not have a word that seems like it should still be English, the word may be AAVE (African-American Vernacular English) or Scottish (both languages in their own right), some local dialect, some professional jargon or Internet slang (sometimes by and of a pretty small community). The Urban Dictionary sometimes can help, just be aware that UD allows swear words, various slurs and graphic verbal descriptions of all kinds of sex*al acts. I usually do a search alike this: ret-con urban dictionary Hope this is useful going forward!
Fairies in Pixie hollow aren't technically immortal, in the Pixie Hollow books, they touch on the fact that if humans stop believing in them, they start losing their magic and dying. That's why Prilla, the only known fairy to have the ability to 'blink', (travel her conscience to the human realm) is very important to the fairies.
It's like, okay, it makes sense that no one would know there's a cure since twins are so rare, and it makes sense that they didn't want to change their literal main fairy character... but seriously why have her break a wing then? It doesn't even serve as dramatic tension because it's revealed AFTER the climax, and is fixed in less than a minute!
As someone who is disabled Rani was my favorite fairy she was only in the books tho, she didn’t have wings and couldn’t fly they made her some fake ones and it doesn’t go very well. She ends up saving the day because she’s the only one who can swim.
The thing is, if they kept Tink's wing broken, it would break what little continuity they had with the peter pan movies :/ I guess that's probably one of the reasons they did it...
I think Disney should’ve just done it, pretty sure people don’t usually realize those are connected beyond “oh, Tinkerbell and Peter Pan share a character”
honestly I wish they'd pulled a Rapunzel and kept her broken wing in the films and then only showed her old design on promotional material and in the parks same as they do with Rapunzel's blonde hair. Like they have a history of just keeping one version for marketing and one version for film continuity and they then have a cool bonus in the parks that if kids ask the face characters to fly for them, the tinkerbell can just say her wing is broken and doesn't work anymore. Either they should never have had her wing tear, or kept it which would have also been a super cool thing both for disbility rep and link pretty elegantly in with her inventor type character she has in the movies
I agree. To be honest, the continuity with Peter Pan movies already was not super close on some aspects, so Tink's wing disability really could work. Disney even did that with Rani from the novels. Even though she sacrificed her wings, I remember all of the merchandise (except for the books and magazines) still had her with them just fine. I know she wasn't Tink, so the company might have thought they could pull that, but she still was one of the key characters from the Fairies franchise at the time. And of course a living example of this Rapunzel merchandising treatment, before actual Rapunzel experienced that xD
I have a book called in the realm of the never fairies, which mentions that there are “incomplete fairies” (yikes) whose laugh got broken before they arrived, and are missing the tips of their ears, or are only half glowing. It also says that it might be invisible, and the fairy might not understand etiquette, or might have difficulty speaking. They were so close, and then they just had to go call them that
After having learned things about people who have twins, I wondered if Tinkerbell getting her wing fixed could have been an allegory for twins donating organs or blood to their twin sibling in a crisis (I think one example was with bone marrow transplanting?), but I can understand the disappointment, especially seeing as there is nothing lost on Peri’s end (I’m not sure if donating twins in reality don’t lose something in a literal transplant, but I guess it depends on if they donate an entire organ or just stem cells). I now actually wonder if Peri should have been the one to break her wing and Tinkerbell, in an act of love, gives her wing (probably magically) to Periwinkle. I’ve seen other comments talk about Tinkerbell not needing to fly everywhere anyway, so this could have worked. Or, taking the stem cell route, the current outcome in the movie works but the storytelling around it would need tightening to account for the allegory. Idk, it’s interesting the ideas one can come up with as a grown up for a children’s movie. What do you guys think? (Feel very free to tell me if I’m wrong. I’m not a doctor, just in University) Edit: forgot to mention, your art and concept is fantastic!
That could have really worked-except Peri didn’t lose anything so the idea of sacrifice became moot and it got shunted off as a miraculous heal instead.
Another great video! Tinker Bell TINKERING with her wing and building a prosthetic would make her so much more interesting. She would be right there with Hiccup. I really like your intro and ending song, do they have a name? And Lord Miloti is so well done!
The only thing I'd like to add is the Tinkerbell books. The books started being published before the movies. The movies take place before the books though. In one of the books one of the fairies cuts off her wing so she can swim through water to save someone I think. I'm pretty sure her name was rainni or something similar and she took the place of silvermist in Tinkerbell's group of friends.
it wasn't so much save "someone" as it was save EVERYONE the movies and books are completely different worlds because in the books mother dove is kinda like the guardian of all neverland and her egg is what keeps neverland's magic when the egg broke fairies had no feathers to make dust and peter and the lost boys started to age and the season fall and winter started to happen the only way they knew to fix mother dove's egg was with a dragon that was locked up AGES ago. they'd need a way to appease him so they had to get 3 special items for his horde. one of them was a mermaid's comb. to get said comb Rani needed to go to the bottom of mermaid lagoon but faries drown in water because there wings soak up all water. even water faries deal with this. so she had her wings cut off to get to the mermaid
i actually did like the wing-fix scene, since it would be understandable for people to say “there’s no cure for a broke wing!” when there literally isn’t a cure for them as twins are incredibly rare. i just feel like they could’ve explored more about the benefits of a twin? other than the sparkling and the healing aspect (which we’ve only seen for wings, not skin or other injury), we get nothing. what if twins could adapt to each other’s abilities or have secret communication or something? it’s a cool scene that i liked a lot because of the possibilities, but none of those possibilities were explored or established, so it just feels like it was… there.
i see disney's reasoning for the insta heal wings. A) they didnt want to change tinkerbelle's design. B)they wanted the plot trope of hero gets injured to save the day, but i think they could have gotten this by having her injured in some other way. Like maybe she's not used to the strong winds of winter and a gust of wind pushes her down and she breaks an arm. It would still be related to her being a warm fairy, since it would be caused by her not knowing how to navigate winter weather, but it is something that would get the plot point of injury without permanently changing her design. They even could have the insta heal with that if they wanted to. It would def feel like a plot cop out, but it would at least not feel like a disability copout since its perfectly reasonable that a broken arm wouldnt lead to a permanent disability.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the series takes place before the movie, Wendy is a little girl... well, littler; James (not-yet-Hook) has two hands, the crocodile literally hatches in one of the movies... and immediately swallows a clock. Like remember how he was worried that one day the clock would wind down and his warning system would be gone? Like the clock was a relatively new development? Piss on that, if he doesn't swallow the clock, how will the audience understand that it's the same crocodile? Anyhow, the _main_ reason they can't change Tinkerbelle is because she doesn't have a broken wing in the movie... and they aren't about stupid and/or pointless retcons.
As a kid I remember picking up maple seeds (the ones that fall like little helicopters) and thinking how perfect they would be as prosthetic fairy wings. Leaves, feathers, or even fabric weaved from milkweed silk would probably work just fine as well. It’s astonishing to assume that Tinkerbell wouldn’t think of those solutions herself.
Honestly, "fixing disability" is an interesting topic for me. For example, if I woke up one day with perfect hearing, because of decisions my family or some other person made (like often portrayed in media) I would be horrified! I've adapted to being hard of hearing and it's part of who I am! In a different example, If I was given the option, had time to think and reflect on the consequences, etc, of "fixing" my eye sight (which to clarify doesn't officially qualify as a disability), so I no longer need glasses (something that I haven't always needed) I would consider it, and maybe even accept. I feel there can be a bit of gray area around these situations, but it depends solely on a person or character. As for the movie, this is seriously just a cop-out ending! Besides "fixing" a disability, character's actions don't have consequences, so you lose opportunities for character development and impact on the audience! Just sucks all around :( Thanks for posting these videos that show me a different perspective! I'm an aspiring writer, so considering these things is really helpful! Have a lovely/better day!
It depends on the disability and the individual! Most people with chronic pain for example would love to not have chronic pain. I think it's one of those things that are very personal, but because disability changes the way you navigate life, it can become an important part of someone's identity as well. The trope is just used so much on every form of disability blindly...
Healing Tinkerbells wings enhanced the whole idea of them being twins cause the idea was that they came from the same essence of laughter (flower), so it's meant as they are one whole together, so the healing was meant as shoving that they are parts of the same essence and the healthy part (the sister) healing the other. It was more of a metaphor them coming together and completing each other cause they are two interpretations of the same thing. While I definitely think it would've been cool seeing Tinkerbell engineer her wing or other moving methods (also adding a nice character design touch to convey that better, since she is a literal tinker fairy and there isn't much that says that about her), it wouldn't have sent the message of the whole plot (meeting her twin sister etc. finding out their true nature). And although it seemed old school "now everything is great and dandy again just like nothing happened" it definitely didn't feel that way and packed that emotional punch of hope. That's the end of my long essey :)...sorry about the bad grammatics 😅 Edit: I just got one idea- In the end Tinkerbell could've thought about other fairies with some disabilities. Since she healed, but others did not- she could've engineered ways to deal with the disability better, again, since she is a literal tinker fairy. That way they could have dealt with both plot points better, but it would've made the movie a bit too stuffed. So probably better to not add that in the movie, but it would fit nicely while the end credits are rolling.
"And there is no cure for a broken wing." Yep, I know where this is going even without hearing the rest of this. I'm a woman who's always lived with multiple disabilities, and I specialized in Disability Studies in university, so I know my way around the "Can't be fixed" narrative, which I hate JUST A MUCH as the "miracle cure" narrative.
Yes sometimes it is just something to overcome but giving up hope that one day it might be different is wrong. It might not happen in our lives but someone's else life might get lucky.
@@theresahall5141, do we need d to be fixed, though? I would like to settle for a happy middle ground: no miracle cure BS, ut also no narrative of "the way you are is broken/wrong/other", so forth. Yes, I am asking to have my cake and eat it, too. What else does one do with cake, after all?
@@ActiveAdvocate1 I think it depends on the disability. Mental bugs don't really have a cure and treatment is iffy. Other bugs well it just depends on the bug whether there is any sort of treatment much less a cure. And sometimes there is a middle ground but sometimes even the middle ground isn't very good for the person who has to live with the disability. So yes I would like more cures and treatments for disabilities so that nobody has suffer.
@@theresahall5141, I'm a PWD, though, to be fair, all my stuff is physical, not mental/emotional/social. I'm not suffering. I can't speak for everyone, obviously, and I don't intend to, but as concerns myself, I would prefer to go for the Disability Pride narrative. So now that I've put my cards on the table--and you don't have to give me a yes or no--but do you mind if I ask whether you have any disabilities yourself?
I seriously wish the Disney Fairies universe explored disability more! I was obsessed with them when I was a little girl and the only fairies I can really vividly remember are Tinkerbell, Rani, and Silvermist. I *loved* how Rani was a fairy with no wings. And I'd like to think it had some impact on how I view disabled people as an adult (which was useful in finding out I was midly disabled). I used to think it was so sad, to be a fairy who didn't have wings. But Rani was *so* happy. She had Brother Dove, which allowed her to still fly with her friends and be free. And where she was only slightly limited in her ability to fly because she needed a mobility tool, it gave her so many newfound freedoms. She's the *only* fairy who can swim! How cool is that??? Rani didn't sit at home grieving her lack of wings all day. She was *happy.* She made accommodations for herself that allowed her to function in scenarios where wings were necessary. I feel like Disney was cool with minor side-characters being disabled, but letting a main character, a widely loved and respected character be disabled?? Blasphemy! The ableism still shines out even with the hard work people on the team clearly did to get some good, accurate disability representation in where they could.
I know a lot of other people have already commented about this, but in the pixie hollow books (which are entirely different than the movies and are a THOUSAND times better in my opinion) the character rani is fantastic. she loses her wings and barely gets sad about it, immediately goes to find some mermaids because hot girl shit, and then lives the rest of her life being awesome having a great time. and she doesnt need to fly!!! she has a mobility aid in the form of a dove friend but she decides when to use him or not and its actually interesting in the book because she doesnt need pixie dust anymore and it leads to them being able to better conserve it for the mission. Rani is so cool and I love her a lot. Also Prilla isnt disabled but shes a fairy who has "bits of human in her" which makes her socially different and not immediately know what her talent is and she reads very neurodivergent to me. she was my favorite next to rani as a kid. I'd highly recommend Quest of the egg, the worldbuilding for the fairy's society and neverland is really great too and Tinkerbelle is way more interesting in it because shes kind of an asshole and not the completely perfect protagonist
This is one reason why the books were so awesome, in my opinion. The fairies had so much actual depth, and also, Rani!! Her character was so amazing, and I always loved how they wrote her and how she lost her wings. Every character felt real in the books, and the cast was varied and a lot more exciting. I could read those books over and over and not get tired.
Please would you be able to make a video about Cassandra from Tangled the Series? She was made disabled in season 2, after she suffered severe burns on her hand. She had to learn to use the hand again and deal with the pain. However, I really hated how it was constantly seen as a bad thing that she was disabled and the fact that it’s been said in creator interviews that the hand healed and went back to normal at the end of the show. I still headcanon her as disabled, and a lot of other people in the fandom do as well, but I really wish they’d kept her disability in canon, and done something with it
As someone with hand disabilities…this one actually *doesn’t* bother me as much as Tink getting repaired wings. Why? Well to be frank? Tink had mobility aid options. But once you partially or completely lose usage of one or both hands…there’s no accommodations made. There are very few careers and activities that are hands-free, and it’s not even something you can get disability for-unlike being unable to walk or unable to stand for long periods. (For as stigmatized as mental health is, I can literally have an easier time trying to reapply for disability for my severe anxiety than I can for the flareups I’m stuck with since developing carpel tunnel syndrome years ago and unable to keep a job because of it. And that’s with Technically Both Hands Mostly Useable.)
@@anonymousfellow8879 Thank you for saying this. There honestly needs to be accommodations, every deserves the appropriate accommodations for their disability. And you should get disability, it’s so unfair! Hand disabilities are just as important as any other.
@@vange13113 Thanks 😅 Just, there’s two sides to the disability-in-media argument. When it can be accommodated we absolutely want to see it “left alone” for the visibility. Then chronically or terminally persons? Being made well is a power fantasy-I had a friend recently die of cancer who when a comfort character was spontaneously made ill in a flashback episode (but it was to sideline him/write him out of the story entirely. They never even bothered to name his illness in-canon or in-word of god) who opted to Cure his “unnamed terminal illness” in her fanfic (since, well. She wanted a HOPE for a cure. Even though she knew she wasn’t getting one.) So, it gets back to More Rep. Let us be visible, have adventures. Have acomidation or power fantasies. Be angry about out lot as well as just having a “normal” life. - …and realized this a day ago, But: Cass’s Injury wasn’t so much about Cass being disabled, as it was a literal physical manifestation of the damage done to Cass’s and Raps’s frayed relationship. For it to repair Raps had to take accountability for how much she’d hurt Raps (much like how Cass had to own her own misconduct-manipulated by Zhan Tiri or not.) So, from that perspective when it’s Magic (and we saw Raps literally deage Gothel and resurrect Eugene in Tangled), it didn’t feel like a “cop out,” it felt (in this case) like an arc resolution …now if Cass lost the use of her hand any other way (especially if Raps wasn’t responsible)? Yeah no. It wouldn’t have worked-even for someone who has issues with both hands now with “overuse”, especially my “technically dominant” one
@@vange13113 Sadly, people don't see pain, no matter how intense or severe, as a disability. It's a pop some pills and get over it kind of thing to people who don't deal with it and can't understand that the medications sometimes don't work, lose effectiveness and damage vital organs like the liver.
Knowing Tink, she probably would have made some kind of special sticky glue from sugars or something, or made a special wing extension from some kind of thin parchment, it would have been difficult, but I don't think she would give up on not being able to fly so easily.
Well, as much as I understand frustration in the hole “wings back to normal.” It kinda had to be that way. In the film Peter Pan her wings are normal. Don’t get me wrong, I was super disappointed that this was fixed in a snap. I wanted it to be a slower proses to fix. But it makes sense canonically because technically in this film she hasn’t met the “clumsies” (humans) yet.
If it helps with any design ideas for Tinkerbell with wing disability, you could always watch how to fix a butterfly’s wing for some ideas. It’s amazing what some people managed to do to help a butterfly’s broken wing.
If they've went with a backstory, like every single fairy had a unique wing pattern and therefore without reference they can't fix their wings, and due to the fact that Tinkerbell has a twin, she had reference and therefore has a chance in fixing and send them off in another movie to fix her wings I might've felt better about it.
The Tinkerbell series goes: 1) Tinkerbell 2) The Lost Treasure 3) The Great Fairy Rescue 4) Pixie Hollow Games 5) Secret of the Wings 6) The Pirate Fairy 7) The Neverbeast I'd love to see someone do a comic redoing the pirate fairy and the neverbeast in a reality where having a twin doesn't mend a broken wing. It'd be cool to see what inventions Tinkerbell comes up with. Or if not those just a fanfic comic of it
If you want more good disney fairies disability rep, I recommend reading literally any of the disney fairies books featuring Rani. She's a fairy who cut off her wings to save pixie hollow from a giant dragon who threatened to commit genocide to pixie hollow if he didn't get a pair of fairy wings. Rani was the one who offered to do it because she's a water fairy who always wanted the opportunity to swim. One of my favorite books as a kid was Rani and the mermaid lagoon, but I don't remember if it holds up. Also there's a whole plot about Rani-bat that I've heard about and it just sounds wild. This is all in the Gail Carson Levine fairy dust trilogy.
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 No problem! The lore in the books is more consistant, and honestly the books are a wild ride, I highly recommend all of them.
I gotta say though, from a standpoint of Tinkerbell as a character a literal tinker fairy who makes mechanisms and invents gadgets and gizmos. Tinkerbell tinkering up an idea to fix her broken wing is so in character for tink and it would've been amazing if she could invent a way of flying for the disabled fairies. Character and design wise I think it would've been so cool to see.
I always thought of it as they showed full time disability via the King, but also showed short term disabilty via Tinkerbell, and how others can help them (in this case using Periwinkle healing her wing via the sparkle as an analogy for organ or blood stem cell transplants)...at least thats how my ADHD brain thought of it as. 😅😐 (editted to fix typos!)
As a child, I admit loving the happy ending, and the idea that as sisters their wings could be a template for each other... but this video makes an amazing point. I do remember being sad that Rani was never in the movies, I loved her story. At least the Lord of Winter or whatever is left alone? (Tho don't get me started on the plot hole with flying over winter and such)
Despite me not being physically disabled, this video helped me realize why I remember Lord Milori’s story so well. Also it is strange that Tink didn’t get a mechanical wing and it’s odd that her wing broke in the first place when that plot point got resolved in a short amount of time.
Yo it's hard to get the *vibe* of a character while translating it into your own style, but you did such a good job. I love these kinds of videos because media aimed at children often helps form their perspectives about the world. It's so important to see disability on screen from a young age. I can only hope companies start doing better as people like you bring more attention to these issues. Such a great video. Also, all hail Lord M'lord! (I laughed so hard)
It would have been so much cooler if Tink had lost her wing permanently because then we would see all the contraptions and mobility devices she'd make to help her get to wherever she needed to go. Really missed chance. WOuld've been so cool.
I’m not gonna lie I actually did forget that this movie was about disability until I saw this video which is strange because it was my favorite movie when I was like 8 - 11
Ok right off the bat I see a parallel between how fairies are supposed to choose their powers from the getgo and how kids are supposed to know what they want to grow up to be. Look how anxious Tinker Bell is before and after she chooses her power!
Their fairy books did as well. One of the water fairies cut off her wings to swim with mermaids. Rani then was changed in Disney merchandise and imaging to have no wings
I was so interested in seeing what clever way they would come up with to ‘fix’ her wing (without it just healing up completely fine with not even a scar)and then they pulled the twin stuff and I was so disappointed. I thought they would make a new wing for her or use spider silk to kinda hold it together so she could still fly but nope. If they wanted the broken wing thing but not to change a character design they should’ve done it to periwinkle and it would’ve been so easy, she was introduced to the franchise in this movie so her broken wing couldn’t just been an aspect of her original character design.
Y'know, I kind of wonder if perhaps they could have gone for the best of both worlds by having Tink stay with the broken wing for like the next three movies, maybe with some more expansion on the twin wing magic stuff, and THEN, after they've shown her spend years with it and adapt to her disability, let them discover the twins can heal each others' wings thing. Temporary redesign that they can capitalize on, maybe even alter the Disney logo/Disney Fastplay thingies for disabled Tink, and it's better disabled representation, and then eventually they get flying Tink back in time for the next Peter Pan movie.
I was bummed out when her wings were fixed too. It was such a big moment for her as a main character, and she suffered the consequences of rushing into the winter fairies territory unprepared. Tinkerbelle being magically fixed JUST because she was lucky enough to have a sister with the exact same wings as her is wack. It's like some weird privilege She could have still continued doing her job as a tinker , her flight isnt necessary to continue her life and do her part in the world. It's a shame they just had to pull that magical solution on her, especially since they clearly are willing to make movies that ARENT focused on Tinkerbelle (Neverbeast for example). They could have had Tinkerbelle disabled and take the time to make movies focused on her friends instead if they had to.
I remember watching it as a kid and remembering that there were disabled fairies but also forgot Tinkerbell got healed at the end. Edit: In your other fairy video i commented about Tinkerbell as well :DD
No joke, when I first watched the Secret of the Wings, I never once realized the Lord Milori was the fairy with the broken wing before they flat out showed his wings and I think that is awesome. Because no one, NO ONE mentions it, puts him down about or any of the other tropes that disabled people get stuck with. He is in a high position, everyone respects him and I wish media portrayed that more.
What they should have done is taken one of the other main fairies and tore her wings. They wouldn't have to worry about continuity with Peter Pan. And Tink could have engineered something new to help her.
Even if Disney wanted to not think about Tink's diability in the future, or wrap up the move quickly, they could've eone that REALLY easily. I'm thinking it would go something like this: Instead of the "wing healing scene", Lord Milory steps up to Tink to comfort her with something like "I know it's hard, but you can manage. I do." (Which I think could be a really powerful scene, both for Tink and Queen Clarion). The rest of the movie continues with the Winter wonderland scene as usual, but Tink is on the ground. At the end, one of the other fairies talks to Tink about her disability. "Man, that's going to be really hard" and stuff like that. Then Tink could smile, say, "Oh, I've got some ideas." And unroll a blueprint of a new wing like the one you painted. The screen fades to the credits, and as they go by, pictures show up on the sides. They show Tinker Bell working on her wings (asking birds for feathers, building it, trying and failing to fly, back to the blueprints, rebuilding it) and at the end, show a large picture of Tink flying with her new wings. Then, just redesign her 3d model to include her half-bird wing, and... POOF! You're done!
the very least they could've done was have the heal leave a scar that inhibited her movement. Just like, she stumbles a bit while flying later on and can't fly in strong winds at all. they didn't even have to add the scar, it could just be implied. Maybe have her figure out something to help with this, like c'mon. if they wanted the wing to break so badly, just do a little extra with her animation that implies a disability of sorts. not the best option, but better than her straight up getting revived by the power of love
You ever realize that winter fairies were at the home tree to give the snowflake for tinkerbell to choose from and then they pulled out this whole mess of can't cross the line out of nowhere
Love the redesign and it shows how much potential was lost by Disney choosing not to re-design the character they decided would have a disability story.
If they wanted to keep Tinkerbell’s design the same, they could have had her gain a scar on her torn wing and made her wing weaker, leading her to adapt and create ways to fly longer distances. We could have gotten a scene with Lord Malory and Tink discussing ways he has gotten around and even possibly seen Tinkerbell make Malory some sort of prosthetic wing using her abilities.
I see everyone talking about how Tink could figure out something to either alp her with her broken wing or Pariwinkele but than the thing about the wings would be pointless. Why have a movie about a secret of wings if there is no real thing besides the glow?
Dewey/Fairy Einstein is also disabled. He has to use a staff (we don't really see him without it, ever, meaning he needs; it looks like he has flying trouble) and when he travels a fair distance, he either rides the Bobcat, Fiona, or an Owl himself. Also, the Sparrow-Man thing is from the books.
dude, I love TinkerBell she was my fairy hero cause of her creativity and wanting to help others and always makes new inventions here and there, she is still my hero and now that I think about it, it has shown a few times of TinkerBell showing of her sometimes being distracted or has one mind set on 1 thing, I sometimes do that two since I am Autistic
They should have had perrywinkle break a wing, because they wouldn’t mind redesigned her. Also Tink making a new wing for her sister would be very sweet
Also, could you see Lord Milori possibly being a mentor to Periwinkle? Seeing as she is a winter fairy and would be in a similar situation to him in this headcanon
It's just because she has nonbroken wings in Peter Pan. It's the issue with prequels, no stakes that affect the main movie can stick very long. Still.... It was such an interesting plot point to have her break a wing, and I was so disappointed when it got IMMEDIATELY fixed. Can you imagine if at the end of HTTYD, it was revealed a Night Fury can heal any injury, even regrow limbs, so Hiccup's foot is just fine and the only reason no one knew it was possible is because no one had ever seen, let alone befriended, a Night Fury before?
It was my understanding that this story takes place before "Peter Pan", and since Tinker Bell still had her wings intact in that movie, they left her wings intact for continuity purposes.
Yeah that is the trouble with prequels. But then again the Tinker Bell in Peter Pan and the Tinker Bell in her own movies are such massively different characters that it really wouldn't have been a stretch to just call them alternate universes.
I noticed an mistake with the role of not go into winter. In the vary first movie of Tinkerbell, she and the boys visited every season. And there was a queen instead of a king. Just a funny error I think about sometimes
Disney did actually create another permanently disabled fairy, but you only see her in the books. I can't remember if she was a light fairy or a water fairy, but I do remember the plot of the book was supposed to be her putting on some sort of light show that should have been virtually impossible for a flightless fairy. It was actually pretty good a story for a kids book and it would have made a really interesting movie. Kinda sucks that Disney never made a movie about it, more than likely because Tinkerbell was not the main focus of the story
in the old picture books (specifically Fairy Dust and the Quest for the Egg by Gail Carson Levine) Rani (a fairy in the story) actually cuts off her wings to go underwater to the merpeople. As far as I remember nothing much happens afterwards, there's no magical cure and it just gets accepted. Of course they cry while her wings are cut off, as does she, but I don't think they ever view her with pity or sorrow going forward
OMG THANK YOU!!! i would have loved it if tinkerbell hadn't been "cured"! imagine how amazing it would've been to have such an iconic protagonist be disabled. as much as i love secret of the wings, i really can't stand the ending.
Revealing that the power of twin magic can fix a broken wing also feels very exclusive, imagine a fairy breaks their wing by accident & discovers that the only way to cure is if you have a twin, which this hypothetical fairy didn’t have. Does Disney really think that’s a fair message to give to disabled children?
This movie inspired my favorite and most longest running oc! I was disappointed with the ending of secret of the wings so I made a fairy with broken wings and gets on fine without ever having them "fixed"
Used to be my favorite Tinkerbell movie when I was little. Heck, the pillow I got from it is sitting right under me from years ago. Only now did I realize it was because not only did I think Tink and Peri were girlfriends and I'm les, but because she was disabled for a time. I uh...I did not care that she regained her flying because I was little and everyone around me hated disability so. Yeah. Thanks for reminding me this exists ig? Idk where I was going with that lol Ig I just wish she had stayed disabled and any accomodations were treated like a good thing because I know that would've helped me accept myself more early on when I was little.
Fairie version of kinesiology tape might work better (given the size of the rip and the fact its still intact ) the stuff this really strong fabric-covered tape that moves with the body is a shit to remove its nice for a bit of short-term support without anything bulky and shoe destroying
Yeah, kinesiology tape is a wonderful+awful thing. When my plantar fascitis was flaring really bad in 2018, my most trusted physiotherapist taught me to tape, and that combined with a better exercise program put the inflammation back into remission. So the tape helped a lot, but the difficulty and outright pain when taking it off, and it destroying two pairs of socks for good, worked as a hell of a motivator for me to keep on doing my exercises regularly. I don't want to have to tape again!
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 i found taking it off underwater but ya try and avoid tape when i can also you have to realy push down on the tape around the feet and add other tape to help hold it in place it tends not to sick right
I was thinking that Tinkerbell and all other tinkers would be making prosthetic wings out of waxed onion peels. This tiny film between the actual layers seems perfect for that use, and wax or other material would stabilize it. Wax does not melt unless you put it near the fire source.
Maybe a bit controversial but instead of the sparkle healing the wing-it transfers the injury to periwinkle. Almost like donating a kidney to a sick relative. And now we can go one of two ways . since Periwinkle wings are used to the cold environment they might have an ability they heal themselves. Winter fairy wings unbeknownst to the fairy actually heal micro-cracks caused by the cold and this is just needs a splint so it will heal right. Or Tinkerbell creates and assisted device for her twin like the one drawn. Maybe even Lord milori since he still has a good chunk of his wing left
(Haven’t seen this movie but I adored the Disney Fairy trilogy by Gail Carson Levine) and Oh my God so what I’m hearing is they gave Milori the Rani treatment! Aka - non-flighted fairy who has learned to navigate a very vertically oriented society with the help of a bird as a mobility assistant and has very much come to terms with their disability. I love that! That Tink cop out has me fuming tho. As a bioengineer who literally went to school with the goal of designing prosthetics, having such a big character as someone who’s become an amputee from traumatic injury would have been really cool, especially for kids coming to terms with amputations from accidents or cancer surgeries or that kind of thing to see. And its not like they’d be ret-conning Peter Pan or anything. Disney Fairies (the books) canonically happen after Peter Pan, and Tinker Bell series (the movies) are their own self-contained thing. It really seemed like a case of branding cowardice, especially juxtaposed to their treatment with Milori that seems so spot on. I adore your TinkerBell Prosthetic speedpaint By the way! Definitely fits the Pixie Hollow tech vibe!!
I was expecting Tinkerbell tinkering up something to aid the wing (like your drew) and was dissapointing they don't let her show off her talent and just had to do this
The Nostalgia has overtaken me. I remember when I was little I'd watch these movies at Non-Stop we always had them on DVD when we want on car trips. And seeing this video has made me remember the Majesty of the Tinkerbell series. My favorite Tinkerbell movie is Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Rescue or something like that.
I always thought the bigger measage was to face guilt/shame with the people you love and trust and love will heal it. If only Queen Clarion could have faced Lord Milori and grown TOGETHER instead of going inward and building up walls
And putting that with the messages you put in this video, it could speak VOLUMES about how society treats the disabled vs how they should be treated. Leave the individual to themselves to find their own way or lean together and heal each other, bettering each other around us
The worst part is that if Disney didn't want to redesign Tinkerbell... they could have avoided her injury in the first place. Periwinkle could have gotten this spot in the story and Tinkerbell could have created accessibility solutions for her...
This is such an obviously great idea. Truly a wasted opportunity!
I like that idea way better and would make so much sense since Tinkerbell is a tinker fairy.
... I never thought of that but dang it it's cool
Let's be fair though if she didn't break her Wing people would be calling it out for not following its own pot to do it because there's no way she could have made that flight without doing it this is the way of not getting yelled at for breaking their own rules while also not having any consequences
And we already had periwinkle's wings nearly break already so doing it again probably would have been repetitive
@@lahlybird895 I mean with the magical twin thing they could've just made it so that tink can exist in both realms without breaking her wing in the first place.
I was interested to see if there was a change story line. And yes there was. There was a lost movie. The plot was tinker bell’s sister believing it is her fault that her sister can’t fly leaves winter zone for the legendary cave of knowledge in the far far south in the South Pole. However she gets as far as Antarctica before she is captured by humans. Tinker gets a message from the two rulers and a squad is sent but a nasty storm keeps them from flying. A flash flood happens. Being unable to fly she uses a leaf to leave pixie hollow do get across to mainland Europe she gets help from her human friend from the third movie. She help tink build a glide path. She makes it to the lab. However her broken wing is almost completely torn off. However the winter fairies show up and they make it to the cave. And it is in a completely different language that only tink is able to read.
Those who are ground by fate, or disobedience. Will walk the land to this cave one by wing one by feet. Those who are true in their beliefs shall solve this riddle:
All fairies are different or are they? The answer is closer than you thought.
The cave drops them into a stream of pixies dust which takes them back to the tree. The tree is once again being threatened by a cold curse. And they frost saves it again but tink get caught outside and is frozen. Her sister puts her wings next to tink. And the ice curse is broken. They discover that their wings are exactly the same and due to the rush ti frost the tree tink sister gets her wing torn to. But just before they part they make a wing promise to never feel guilty and that’s when tink wing starts to heal.
The ANSWER IS TWIN FAIRIES TINK SHOUTS. And tink finally flies with her sister once more.
There is apparently a fairy in the books who got her wings torn off or something. Cuz fairies can’t swim and they’d lose their flight. So this one fairy learns to be a swimmer to save a fellow fairy, and everyone reacts fine and things go back to normal again, with her adapting as a flightless fairy just merrily. I read it once in an antique store out of curiosity and then put it down cuz I didn’t want it enough to take it home
@BlueIsABitConfused Yes her name is Rani.
Yeah, that's Rani! She's a water-talent fairy. I think she became an ambassador to the mermaids afterwards, because she can swim now anyways so she might as well.
I would love to see a video on Rani! She is such an interesting character. I think she cut her wings off willingly, and i think she was given an opportunity to get her wings back but she refused. She finds upsides to being wingless, like swimming and sleeping on your back. Definitely a cool future topic!
Her name was Raine, if I remember correctly. The guardian of the fairies was a mother dove, and Raine dove into the water to save her precious egg. Since fairies can’t fly if their wings get wet, she cut off her wings and dove into the sea. She was always my favorite fairy from the books.
I love how some of the other fairies would walk with her even though flying was their instinct, and I loved how unbothered she seemed by her lack of wings, and how she didn’t really consider herself a hero. She considered herself to be just like any other fairy, just one that struggled with her mobility in a world made for creatures that can fly.
@@butter_dem_beans1783 Yeah, that ome! It was a few years ago, so I forgot the details
i read the disney fairy books religiously as a kid, and one of tink's best friends in that series was rani, a water fairy who lost her wings and got around on a bird. to this day she's one of the fairies i remember the most. the books were REALLY good so if you ever get the chance, i recommend reading them
I agree!!
…Except for the Wand One. That…got into neurodivergency ableism. I’ll choose to believe it wasn’t intentional but it was so horrible to read a ND-coded toddler was “incomplete/lacking a soul” when in many ways Prilla felt ND-Coded already.)
me too! The only other fairy I remember just as well was Silvermist and it's partially because I could never remember which of the two lost their wings.
@@anonymousfellow8879 There's another "incomplete" fairy, Iris. I thought it was an (admitted shaky) attempt to parrallel genetic disorders like Down Syndrome
Only ever read Quest for the Egg a long time ago, but I remember loving Rani's character in that book.
Wait that’s so funny cause rani literally means queen in Hindi XD
I'm not even physically disabled. But I was so disappointed when her wing got fixed.
I was excited to see what type of machinery she would come up with to make walking faster. Or getting up to high places.
She literally built a flying ship in one of the movies cause she wouldn't be able to fly the whole way! And you're telling me her getting a broken wing would somehow stop her from being the same Tink we know and love?
Most of her job as a Tinker doesn't even require her to fly. She spends most of her time at a desk tinkering.
It barely would have changed anything.
Quite frankly, they lost out of selling some new toys there. And that confuses me more.
Cause Disney loves money????
They may love money, but not more than they hate people outside of the uncomplicated status quo
I thought it pretty obvious. It was just like a fake-out death, something to get a last emotional blow before the big sparkly triumph. Sure, I can think of a few movies who don't do this optional step, and some high-quality movies like httyd who do it better than the rest, but it's still a common trope, an easily ignored habit. Nothing against tropes, they're just tools. Tinkerbell is a franchise created for easy money, the team responsible probably just didn't think there was any message to be had.
Except future her that befriends Peter Pan DOES need to fly.
@@oliviarogers2808 but isn't this a different universe Tinkerbell? Like, she'll never meet Peter Pan if he even exists type of thing?
@@LoreCatan who said that?
I'd also like to add that it wouldn't be impossible for Tink to move around flightless, even without an owl. In The Pirate Fairy, a personal favorite of mine from the series, Zarina moves around fine. She doesn't fly because she uses her Pixie Dust for alchemy and other than some stares and jokes from others, she has no issues! And the bullying probably wouldn't happen to Tink as much, because Zarina didn't fly by choice while Tink would be disabled. And they're friends in the movie, so not flying could've been a bonding moment between the pair and why didn't they do that?! TL:DR I am mad.
Yea like Zarina could have been an awesome outfit for a disabled Tink! And I can imagine a scenario where Tink runs away with Zarina because of the shared not flying, and a lot of panic ensues with Pixie Hallow’s practically tinker savior mysteriously disappearing, along with the known trouble maker pixie dust fairy, a witch hunt ensues and I would still be a powerful role to stick Tink in, having her stand up and going “Leaving was my choice.” And it would be a big moment because people would realize that Tink is still fully capable of being an awesome tinker fairy as most of their work is on ground. The only reason why they panicked is because in other movies she was known to fly off and collect things to tinker with. I’m getting ahead of myself. Moral of the text is: Zarina & Tink run away to prove something, Pixie Hallow Panics, about to exile Zarina, Tink goes “Dude it was my idea”
Agreed.
tbh the only reason why I agree with healing her wing back to normal is bc the tinkerbell movies take place before she meets peter pan, to which we know she's perfectly capable of flying. I will say it doesn't make sense to break her wing in the first place only to fix things immediately but I was a kid when this came out and all I thought was "ooh pretty sparkly wings" 😂
Me too I didn't mind anything 💀
Even when I was little, I thought those were two different franchises/universes. I never realized that this was before Peter Pan! 🤯
@@LeiaLouise yup! In the pirate fairy "James" is actually captain hook when he was younger! I assume he must have traveled back to the mainland at some point and aged before ever running into peter
the thing is, the fairy books take place AFTER peter pan. in the disney canon, he is shown to be a better person and more mature in the sequel, which maybe could have led to him leaving, thus, the tinkerbell movies would start after that. they screwed up by making them prequels.
@@lilenwasnothere6867 that doesn't work tho bc the story begins at her birth, and in at least the next 3 movies her demeanor is very young and curious bc she's learning things that the other fairies already know, being blue dust, talking to humans, and the winter woods
Haven’t humans flown in this series with just pixie dust? Multiple times? In different movies?
EXACTLY you could just swim around in the air with no need for wings anyway
Apparently they need pixie dust to fly and their wings to control their flight but like…bruh moment
That bit never made sense in any of the movies. Fairies apply dust on their own wings to fly, but humans fly without wings. So a common fan theory is that dust on the fairies bodies enhance their powers, while dust applied directly on their wings allows them to fly.
You're forgetting (or unaware) that Pixie Dust is super-ultra-maxi-extreme rare, and there's so little available that they mete out small rations to fairies. Even though Tinkerbelle personally invented a way to collect like ten times more than before... and the fact that fairies used to produce it naturally, so much in fact that a single fairy could easily coat an entire pirate ship with it if she felt like it.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa since when is pixie dust rare? They have a whole tree of it???
Even as a child I felt so disappointed when Tinkerbell losing her wings was seen as this awful, dreadful thing, when it's clear that other things can be used as mobility aids and flying machines exist.
And even then I was confused because they flew over the winter woods in the first film no problem!
My sister even said the same thing.
Omg that plot hole drove me crazy! 😂
not to mention a winter fairy had to come out to place the snowflake on the glowy mushroom, you can see it at 1:33!
Also I’m pretty sure that you could go there in the DS game but I guess that’s not cannon, which makes sense
This movie is just stupid on several accounts
I have to admit that I never thought of tinker bells cracked wing as an actual disability when I was a kid I just thought that since it was only torn that they would be able to fix it easy unlike the kings wing that was totally ripped off, I thought of it more as a deep cut that needed stitches then a ripped off arm.
Yeah it did kinda seem that way to me too. Like the injury just happened. This wasn’t a character who had been disabled for a while. It was a character who just got hurt getting healed.
yeah I thought it was kind of a time limit thing. and if her wing got completely ripped off it woulda been too late
@@imacheckneck she's a tinkerer, she could comeup with prostethic wings and become a cyborg fairy, with laser eyes and a rocket fist because why not?
I was so disappointed in this movie fixing Tinkerbell's wings with some unexplained and dumb magic just because. There were so many opportunities for disabled character like her! She's a tinker fairy for god's sake, she could always create some machine and sprinkle it with the fairy dust instead! So many opportunities missed just because they didn't feel like this movie having any impact on the main character in future...
What do you expect from a Disney movie? Don't get me wrong, I like their movies as much as the next person but they often pull stuff like this and unless you have some form of influence or power on how to make their movies, I do not see a point in complaining about it.
@@spartan7021 Heyyy, easy there, please. Venting for the sake of venting is also valid, as other similar comments to this video already show.
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 point taken
But, at the same time, why would you want to suffer, if a liability to you? Sure "No discrimination and victim blaming!" should always be promoted, but long story short, why wouldn't you want to have the energy and/or technology that could also collectively (re)evolve you and not be stuck divided, in trauma and tribalism, which just continues to destroy all of us, collectively?
But also sod Disney, because c(r)apitalist, again?
giving this video a like for "tinkerbell said more women in STEM"
Should say STEAM
@@ChicagoMel23 A for architecture?
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 A is for Arts. It has more in common with the others than you might think.
@@angeldude101 general you or personal you (i.e. me)?
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 General you
What makes this so disappointing is that Tinkerbell is a tinker fairy! It would've been so cool to see her design a machine to help substitute her wings or even to create nodes of transportation for other fairies who injure their wings. There was a lot of potential that got completely wasted
They already had he build a hot air balloon in the second movie
Honestly I would have really loved to see what a prosthetic wing would look like
Even in our world fragile butterfly wings can be fixed using superglued parts of dead butterfly wings, but that would've been too realistic and dark for a kids film. :P
Healing Tinkerbells wing with magic is like giving Captain Hook a new hand.
Doesn't superglue break things down? Surely it would melt the wing
@@yubikyu As far as I'm aware, super glue was first invented to glue injuries and is actually pretty safe on organic materials. it's even recommended to use this stuff on injured dog paws! And butterflies often don't have the longest lifespans eitherway, so the super glue wouldn't do much damage in the short time it's 'in use'
@@sashacarbon9531 oh wow, thank you!
There even is a video on UA-cam where someone does exactly what you said, and the butterfly is fine afterwards:D
As a twin with a disability myself, this really interested me. There aren't many non-identical same gender twins in anything anyway and while integrating twins into cultural conflict stories is pretty common, it's rare to see that done with cultures that get along and it's really interesting to see them integrate twinship into their cosmology as an actual substantial thing.
With that said, yeah not a great fan of co-opt heals. This used to annoy me so much that every time it happened I would spend days writing out versions of the story where it didn't. The number of Dragon Ball without Senzu Beans etc ideas I ended up wracking up was truly ridiculous.
I am genuinely curious how you would approach Dragon Ball without Senzu Beans. I remember Future Trunks' timeline doesn't have them anymore. Would you also take out things like Piccolo regrowing his arm :?
if Rani can trade her wings and have a whole book focusing on the frustrations it brings her, Myka can straight up almost lose her vision to a deadly illness, AND Lord Milori (who I thought was Lord Galori) can have a permanent disability, I don't see why they can't imagine it for Tink. She's literally the best fairy talent to deal with it!
Edit: For those claiming Tinker Bell had to get her wing back because of Pixie Hollow being a prequel to Peter Pan, you are valid, but Disney is not. They retcon things all the time, especially for remakes or otherwise. Also I saw Peter Pan as a child _and_ the Tinker Bell movies and literally never made the connection lmao, kids aren't the brightest.
I thought he did, he rides an owl
@@Eqha67 Tink not milori.
It think they did it cause this is before Peter Pan and she has no wing disability I'm that. Doesn't making it better but it's the reason I think
@@Vixen1409 they could've made a transparent prosthetic that looked like a wing.
@@candicraveingcloude2822 you're 100% right I was just thinking about what the creators probably did
One of the reason this makes me ANGRY is that the water dairy in the movies, is a wingless fairy in the books.
She literally is a flightless fairy and is happy to be so,even if she can fly thanks to a bird her friend.
When I saw her in the movies as a fairy with wings I felt so so bad...
Edit:
Big fail.
In the version in my language they have the same name, but in english their names are different. I thought they just redesigned her for the movies, avoiding her disability, but they just made another character. Sorry for the confusion ^^
Those seem a lot like different fairies I mean they don't look the same and they have different names
@@lahlybird895 ah??
Thank you for the clarification. They have the same name in the edition of my language so I thought the movie just redesigned her :0c
@@muzzycosmos9400
Ahh that makes sense. I was just about to comment how they’re two different characters 😅
@@muzzycosmos9400 ah, gotcha
Lol i was like " wait, rani and silvermist aren't the same"
Speaking of disabled fairies, there was a book I loved as a kid called Fairy Rescue which is about an asthmatic girl who befriends a one-winged fairy. It always stood out to me because it's dark for a little girls' book.
You mean from the Fairy Dust series by Gwenyth Rees? Those don’t take place in the same universe as the Disney Fairies book series.
@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 I know. This just reminded me of that.
Have you read the fairies of pixie hallow books by chance? In it Rani, a water fairy ends up up cutting her wings off in order to swim. I can't recall why she did that but she has always been my favorite fairy precisely because she's disabled and it was treated so normally. This is just part of who she is.
I will worn you that in one book she is given/forced to have (both it's complicated) replacement wings. However this is very much seen as a bad thing that's only good at first and causes more issues for her (in a very fantasy "oh no what happened" way ) and is undone by the end of the book.
The "abled for a day" trope!
she cut her wings because if she kept them she would have drowned and she needed to get to the bottom of mermaid lagoon to get a comb from a mermaid in order to appease this dragon so he would fix mother dove's egg
i don't know if the water wings were ever treated as bad so much as the way she got them was. she needed wings to help her friends but she selfishly wanted to keep swimming so she broke the 1 wish rule and made multiple wishes with the wand so she could have the water wings and be friends with the mermaid
There’s also “Rani and The Mermaid Lagoon” (I think it’s called that?) which calls specific attention to her lack of wings and how it can sometimes affect her performance in activities that other fairies can do just fine, but for the most part it’s just Vidia shaming her over nothing and Rani realizing by the end that she’s just as capable as (if not more than) her peers
@@sophiaredwood5825 that one and "trouble with tink" were my first 2 books! and i remember her lack of wings actually helped her in the end because she was able to retrieve these special pearls that lit up he fountain which everyone loved through her swimming
Excerpt from ‘In the realm of the Never Fairies: The secret world of pixie hollow’
Rani
Of all the water talent fairies, rainy is the most passionate. She loves rainy days and splashing in puddles. She even knows how to whistle mermaid songs. Her favorite dreams are swimming dreams.
Rani can do amazing, magical things with water: bounce it like a ball, mold it into the shape of a fish, or scoop it up in her fingers without losing a drop. She can also help her fellow fairies with water-related things, such as getting water to boil faster.
Rani is the only fairy and pixie hollow who can swim. This is because she has no wings - she sacrificed them on the quest to save Mother Dove’ egg. She’s not entirely have unhappy about losing her wings since she’s always long to swim, though she misses being able to fly on her own.
Now Rani flies with the help of Brother Dove. Whenever she needs him, Rani whistles, and Brother flies to her side and carries her whatever she needs to go.
im glad they at least didn't somehow fix the leader dude's wing with the power of love or something
I nearly spat out my drink at "Tinkerbell said 'more women in STEM'" 😂
Should be STEAM though
@@ChicagoMel23 Does the A stand for architecture?
yessir (coming from a person who can't choose a course)
@Curly-n-Girly in another thread @BlueBraviaryGirl said Art.
@Curly-n-Girly I- WHAT?? I wasnt talking abt that lol
unfortunately i think the reason that lord miloris disability was handled so well was because the writers didnt even see it as or think about it as a disability :/ i could be wrong though
That sounds... unfortunately accurate.
I feel as though of all the "magic" out of nowhere fixes they could have used this one wasn't entirely harmful. Twins (identical specifically) do often give unique opportunities in a medical emergency, being almost perfect for transplants.
So in terms of giving children unrealistic rep its not nearly as uncalled for as it could be. But it would have been cool if they made it a more permanent part of her character.
Thing that doesn't make sense: in the first movie right at the begining we see Tinkerbell flying through winter and her wings are fine
Yeah Secret of the Wings does involve some ret-conning or the Lore
@@Oakwyrm sorry to ask but what does red conning mean?
@@bdariamihaela retcon is short for retroactive continuity- it means to change established parts of the story to match the current one. for example, in the first tinkerbell movie, there are leaders for each season (not including lord m'lord). secret of the wings ret-cons this by having queen clarion be the leader over three seasons.
@@Splatsuma Thank you very much, I'm not a native speaker and I couldn't find that term in dictionary
@@bdariamihaela FWIW when a general English dictionary does not have a word that seems like it should still be English, the word may be AAVE (African-American Vernacular English) or Scottish (both languages in their own right), some local dialect, some professional jargon or Internet slang (sometimes by and of a pretty small community).
The Urban Dictionary sometimes can help, just be aware that UD allows swear words, various slurs and graphic verbal descriptions of all kinds of sex*al acts. I usually do a search alike this:
ret-con urban dictionary
Hope this is useful going forward!
Fairies in Pixie hollow aren't technically immortal, in the Pixie Hollow books, they touch on the fact that if humans stop believing in them, they start losing their magic and dying. That's why Prilla, the only known fairy to have the ability to 'blink', (travel her conscience to the human realm) is very important to the fairies.
It's like, okay, it makes sense that no one would know there's a cure since twins are so rare, and it makes sense that they didn't want to change their literal main fairy character... but seriously why have her break a wing then? It doesn't even serve as dramatic tension because it's revealed AFTER the climax, and is fixed in less than a minute!
As someone who is disabled Rani was my favorite fairy she was only in the books tho, she didn’t have wings and couldn’t fly they made her some fake ones and it doesn’t go very well. She ends up saving the day because she’s the only one who can swim.
The thing is, if they kept Tink's wing broken, it would break what little continuity they had with the peter pan movies :/
I guess that's probably one of the reasons they did it...
Then they shouldn’t have broken her wing at all
@@MeemahSN Why not break her wing heal it with magic this is fantasy not reality
I think Disney should’ve just done it, pretty sure people don’t usually realize those are connected beyond “oh, Tinkerbell and Peter Pan share a character”
honestly I wish they'd pulled a Rapunzel and kept her broken wing in the films and then only showed her old design on promotional material and in the parks same as they do with Rapunzel's blonde hair. Like they have a history of just keeping one version for marketing and one version for film continuity and they then have a cool bonus in the parks that if kids ask the face characters to fly for them, the tinkerbell can just say her wing is broken and doesn't work anymore. Either they should never have had her wing tear, or kept it which would have also been a super cool thing both for disbility rep and link pretty elegantly in with her inventor type character she has in the movies
Ooooo yes
I agree. To be honest, the continuity with Peter Pan movies already was not super close on some aspects, so Tink's wing disability really could work.
Disney even did that with Rani from the novels. Even though she sacrificed her wings, I remember all of the merchandise (except for the books and magazines) still had her with them just fine. I know she wasn't Tink, so the company might have thought they could pull that, but she still was one of the key characters from the Fairies franchise at the time. And of course a living example of this Rapunzel merchandising treatment, before actual Rapunzel experienced that xD
One idea I think would fit with a wing prosthetic is that they need a little bit more pixie dust because they‘re heavier.
I have a book called in the realm of the never fairies, which mentions that there are “incomplete fairies” (yikes) whose laugh got broken before they arrived, and are missing the tips of their ears, or are only half glowing. It also says that it might be invisible, and the fairy might not understand etiquette, or might have difficulty speaking.
They were so close, and then they just had to go call them that
What would you want them to call them that makes sense based on the way they come to be?
After having learned things about people who have twins, I wondered if Tinkerbell getting her wing fixed could have been an allegory for twins donating organs or blood to their twin sibling in a crisis (I think one example was with bone marrow transplanting?), but I can understand the disappointment, especially seeing as there is nothing lost on Peri’s end (I’m not sure if donating twins in reality don’t lose something in a literal transplant, but I guess it depends on if they donate an entire organ or just stem cells). I now actually wonder if Peri should have been the one to break her wing and Tinkerbell, in an act of love, gives her wing (probably magically) to Periwinkle. I’ve seen other comments talk about Tinkerbell not needing to fly everywhere anyway, so this could have worked. Or, taking the stem cell route, the current outcome in the movie works but the storytelling around it would need tightening to account for the allegory.
Idk, it’s interesting the ideas one can come up with as a grown up for a children’s movie. What do you guys think? (Feel very free to tell me if I’m wrong. I’m not a doctor, just in University)
Edit: forgot to mention, your art and concept is fantastic!
This actually makes me think, what if instead of healing Tinkerbell's wings the magic switched their wings instead?
That could have really worked-except Peri didn’t lose anything so the idea of sacrifice became moot and it got shunted off as a miraculous heal instead.
Another great video! Tinker Bell TINKERING with her wing and building a prosthetic would make her so much more interesting. She would be right there with Hiccup.
I really like your intro and ending song, do they have a name?
And Lord Miloti is so well done!
The only thing I'd like to add is the Tinkerbell books. The books started being published before the movies. The movies take place before the books though. In one of the books one of the fairies cuts off her wing so she can swim through water to save someone I think. I'm pretty sure her name was rainni or something similar and she took the place of silvermist in Tinkerbell's group of friends.
it wasn't so much save "someone" as it was save EVERYONE
the movies and books are completely different worlds
because in the books mother dove is kinda like the guardian of all neverland and her egg is what keeps neverland's magic
when the egg broke fairies had no feathers to make dust and peter and the lost boys started to age and the season fall and winter started to happen
the only way they knew to fix mother dove's egg was with a dragon that was locked up AGES ago. they'd need a way to appease him so they had to get 3 special items for his horde. one of them was a mermaid's comb. to get said comb Rani needed to go to the bottom of mermaid lagoon but faries drown in water because there wings soak up all water. even water faries deal with this. so she had her wings cut off to get to the mermaid
i actually did like the wing-fix scene, since it would be understandable for people to say “there’s no cure for a broke wing!” when there literally isn’t a cure for them as twins are incredibly rare. i just feel like they could’ve explored more about the benefits of a twin? other than the sparkling and the healing aspect (which we’ve only seen for wings, not skin or other injury), we get nothing. what if twins could adapt to each other’s abilities or have secret communication or something? it’s a cool scene that i liked a lot because of the possibilities, but none of those possibilities were explored or established, so it just feels like it was… there.
i see disney's reasoning for the insta heal wings. A) they didnt want to change tinkerbelle's design. B)they wanted the plot trope of hero gets injured to save the day, but i think they could have gotten this by having her injured in some other way. Like maybe she's not used to the strong winds of winter and a gust of wind pushes her down and she breaks an arm. It would still be related to her being a warm fairy, since it would be caused by her not knowing how to navigate winter weather, but it is something that would get the plot point of injury without permanently changing her design. They even could have the insta heal with that if they wanted to. It would def feel like a plot cop out, but it would at least not feel like a disability copout since its perfectly reasonable that a broken arm wouldnt lead to a permanent disability.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the series takes place before the movie, Wendy is a little girl... well, littler; James (not-yet-Hook) has two hands, the crocodile literally hatches in one of the movies... and immediately swallows a clock. Like remember how he was worried that one day the clock would wind down and his warning system would be gone? Like the clock was a relatively new development? Piss on that, if he doesn't swallow the clock, how will the audience understand that it's the same crocodile? Anyhow, the _main_ reason they can't change Tinkerbelle is because she doesn't have a broken wing in the movie... and they aren't about stupid and/or pointless retcons.
As a kid I remember picking up maple seeds (the ones that fall like little helicopters) and thinking how perfect they would be as prosthetic fairy wings. Leaves, feathers, or even fabric weaved from milkweed silk would probably work just fine as well. It’s astonishing to assume that Tinkerbell wouldn’t think of those solutions herself.
Honestly, "fixing disability" is an interesting topic for me. For example, if I woke up one day with perfect hearing, because of decisions my family or some other person made (like often portrayed in media) I would be horrified! I've adapted to being hard of hearing and it's part of who I am! In a different example, If I was given the option, had time to think and reflect on the consequences, etc, of "fixing" my eye sight (which to clarify doesn't officially qualify as a disability), so I no longer need glasses (something that I haven't always needed) I would consider it, and maybe even accept. I feel there can be a bit of gray area around these situations, but it depends solely on a person or character. As for the movie, this is seriously just a cop-out ending! Besides "fixing" a disability, character's actions don't have consequences, so you lose opportunities for character development and impact on the audience! Just sucks all around :( Thanks for posting these videos that show me a different perspective! I'm an aspiring writer, so considering these things is really helpful! Have a lovely/better day!
It depends on the disability and the individual! Most people with chronic pain for example would love to not have chronic pain. I think it's one of those things that are very personal, but because disability changes the way you navigate life, it can become an important part of someone's identity as well. The trope is just used so much on every form of disability blindly...
@@mallowlikesmushrooms9467 oh yeah for sure. I'm just parroting opinions I've heard.
Healing Tinkerbells wings enhanced the whole idea of them being twins cause the idea was that they came from the same essence of laughter (flower), so it's meant as they are one whole together, so the healing was meant as shoving that they are parts of the same essence and the healthy part (the sister) healing the other. It was more of a metaphor them coming together and completing each other cause they are two interpretations of the same thing.
While I definitely think it would've been cool seeing Tinkerbell engineer her wing or other moving methods (also adding a nice character design touch to convey that better, since she is a literal tinker fairy and there isn't much that says that about her), it wouldn't have sent the message of the whole plot (meeting her twin sister etc. finding out their true nature).
And although it seemed old school "now everything is great and dandy again just like nothing happened" it definitely didn't feel that way and packed that emotional punch of hope.
That's the end of my long essey :)...sorry about the bad grammatics 😅
Edit: I just got one idea- In the end Tinkerbell could've thought about other fairies with some disabilities. Since she healed, but others did not- she could've engineered ways to deal with the disability better, again, since she is a literal tinker fairy. That way they could have dealt with both plot points better, but it would've made the movie a bit too stuffed. So probably better to not add that in the movie, but it would fit nicely while the end credits are rolling.
"And there is no cure for a broken wing." Yep, I know where this is going even without hearing the rest of this. I'm a woman who's always lived with multiple disabilities, and I specialized in Disability Studies in university, so I know my way around the "Can't be fixed" narrative, which I hate JUST A MUCH as the "miracle cure" narrative.
Yes sometimes it is just something to overcome but giving up hope that one day it might be different is wrong. It might not happen in our lives but someone's else life might get lucky.
@@theresahall5141, do we need d to be fixed, though? I would like to settle for a happy middle ground: no miracle cure BS, ut also no narrative of "the way you are is broken/wrong/other", so forth. Yes, I am asking to have my cake and eat it, too. What else does one do with cake, after all?
@@ActiveAdvocate1 I think it depends on the disability. Mental bugs don't really have a cure and treatment is iffy. Other bugs well it just depends on the bug whether there is any sort of treatment much less a cure. And sometimes there is a middle ground but sometimes even the middle ground isn't very good for the person who has to live with the disability. So yes I would like more cures and treatments for disabilities so that nobody has suffer.
@@theresahall5141, I'm a PWD, though, to be fair, all my stuff is physical, not mental/emotional/social. I'm not suffering. I can't speak for everyone, obviously, and I don't intend to, but as concerns myself, I would prefer to go for the Disability Pride narrative. So now that I've put my cards on the table--and you don't have to give me a yes or no--but do you mind if I ask whether you have any disabilities yourself?
@@ActiveAdvocate1 I'm on the spectrum and although I'm not on the server side of things sometimes I wonder what would be like without this problem.
I seriously wish the Disney Fairies universe explored disability more!
I was obsessed with them when I was a little girl and the only fairies I can really vividly remember are Tinkerbell, Rani, and Silvermist.
I *loved* how Rani was a fairy with no wings. And I'd like to think it had some impact on how I view disabled people as an adult (which was useful in finding out I was midly disabled). I used to think it was so sad, to be a fairy who didn't have wings. But Rani was *so* happy. She had Brother Dove, which allowed her to still fly with her friends and be free. And where she was only slightly limited in her ability to fly because she needed a mobility tool, it gave her so many newfound freedoms. She's the *only* fairy who can swim! How cool is that??? Rani didn't sit at home grieving her lack of wings all day. She was *happy.* She made accommodations for herself that allowed her to function in scenarios where wings were necessary.
I feel like Disney was cool with minor side-characters being disabled, but letting a main character, a widely loved and respected character be disabled?? Blasphemy! The ableism still shines out even with the hard work people on the team clearly did to get some good, accurate disability representation in where they could.
I know a lot of other people have already commented about this, but in the pixie hollow books (which are entirely different than the movies and are a THOUSAND times better in my opinion) the character rani is fantastic. she loses her wings and barely gets sad about it, immediately goes to find some mermaids because hot girl shit, and then lives the rest of her life being awesome having a great time. and she doesnt need to fly!!! she has a mobility aid in the form of a dove friend but she decides when to use him or not and its actually interesting in the book because she doesnt need pixie dust anymore and it leads to them being able to better conserve it for the mission. Rani is so cool and I love her a lot. Also Prilla isnt disabled but shes a fairy who has "bits of human in her" which makes her socially different and not immediately know what her talent is and she reads very neurodivergent to me. she was my favorite next to rani as a kid. I'd highly recommend Quest of the egg, the worldbuilding for the fairy's society and neverland is really great too and Tinkerbelle is way more interesting in it because shes kind of an asshole and not the completely perfect protagonist
This is one reason why the books were so awesome, in my opinion. The fairies had so much actual depth, and also, Rani!! Her character was so amazing, and I always loved how they wrote her and how she lost her wings. Every character felt real in the books, and the cast was varied and a lot more exciting. I could read those books over and over and not get tired.
Please would you be able to make a video about Cassandra from Tangled the Series?
She was made disabled in season 2, after she suffered severe burns on her hand. She had to learn to use the hand again and deal with the pain. However, I really hated how it was constantly seen as a bad thing that she was disabled and the fact that it’s been said in creator interviews that the hand healed and went back to normal at the end of the show.
I still headcanon her as disabled, and a lot of other people in the fandom do as well, but I really wish they’d kept her disability in canon, and done something with it
As someone with hand disabilities…this one actually *doesn’t* bother me as much as Tink getting repaired wings.
Why?
Well to be frank? Tink had mobility aid options. But once you partially or completely lose usage of one or both hands…there’s no accommodations made. There are very few careers and activities that are hands-free, and it’s not even something you can get disability for-unlike being unable to walk or unable to stand for long periods. (For as stigmatized as mental health is, I can literally have an easier time trying to reapply for disability for my severe anxiety than I can for the flareups I’m stuck with since developing carpel tunnel syndrome years ago and unable to keep a job because of it. And that’s with Technically Both Hands Mostly Useable.)
@@anonymousfellow8879 Thank you for saying this. There honestly needs to be accommodations, every deserves the appropriate accommodations for their disability. And you should get disability, it’s so unfair! Hand disabilities are just as important as any other.
@@vange13113
Thanks 😅
Just, there’s two sides to the disability-in-media argument. When it can be accommodated we absolutely want to see it “left alone” for the visibility. Then chronically or terminally persons? Being made well is a power fantasy-I had a friend recently die of cancer who when a comfort character was spontaneously made ill in a flashback episode (but it was to sideline him/write him out of the story entirely. They never even bothered to name his illness in-canon or in-word of god) who opted to Cure his “unnamed terminal illness” in her fanfic (since, well. She wanted a HOPE for a cure. Even though she knew she wasn’t getting one.)
So, it gets back to More Rep. Let us be visible, have adventures. Have acomidation or power fantasies. Be angry about out lot as well as just having a “normal” life.
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…and realized this a day ago, But: Cass’s Injury wasn’t so much about Cass being disabled, as it was a literal physical manifestation of the damage done to Cass’s and Raps’s frayed relationship. For it to repair Raps had to take accountability for how much she’d hurt Raps (much like how Cass had to own her own misconduct-manipulated by Zhan Tiri or not.) So, from that perspective when it’s Magic (and we saw Raps literally deage Gothel and resurrect Eugene in Tangled), it didn’t feel like a “cop out,” it felt (in this case) like an arc resolution
…now if Cass lost the use of her hand any other way (especially if Raps wasn’t responsible)? Yeah no. It wouldn’t have worked-even for someone who has issues with both hands now with “overuse”, especially my “technically dominant” one
@@vange13113 Sadly, people don't see pain, no matter how intense or severe, as a disability. It's a pop some pills and get over it kind of thing to people who don't deal with it and can't understand that the medications sometimes don't work, lose effectiveness and damage vital organs like the liver.
The final healing incantation, where she basically revived Cass, healed her hand I'm pretty sure so it makes sense.
Knowing Tink, she probably would have made some kind of special sticky glue from sugars or something, or made a special wing extension from some kind of thin parchment, it would have been difficult, but I don't think she would give up on not being able to fly so easily.
Well, as much as I understand frustration in the hole “wings back to normal.” It kinda had to be that way. In the film Peter Pan her wings are normal. Don’t get me wrong, I was super disappointed that this was fixed in a snap. I wanted it to be a slower proses to fix. But it makes sense canonically because technically in this film she hasn’t met the “clumsies” (humans) yet.
If it helps with any design ideas for Tinkerbell with wing disability, you could always watch how to fix a butterfly’s wing for some ideas. It’s amazing what some people managed to do to help a butterfly’s broken wing.
If they've went with a backstory, like every single fairy had a unique wing pattern and therefore without reference they can't fix their wings, and due to the fact that Tinkerbell has a twin, she had reference and therefore has a chance in fixing and send them off in another movie to fix her wings I might've felt better about it.
The Tinkerbell series goes:
1) Tinkerbell
2) The Lost Treasure
3) The Great Fairy Rescue
4) Pixie Hollow Games
5) Secret of the Wings
6) The Pirate Fairy
7) The Neverbeast
I'd love to see someone do a comic redoing the pirate fairy and the neverbeast in a reality where having a twin doesn't mend a broken wing. It'd be cool to see what inventions Tinkerbell comes up with. Or if not those just a fanfic comic of it
If you want more good disney fairies disability rep, I recommend reading literally any of the disney fairies books featuring Rani. She's a fairy who cut off her wings to save pixie hollow from a giant dragon who threatened to commit genocide to pixie hollow if he didn't get a pair of fairy wings. Rani was the one who offered to do it because she's a water fairy who always wanted the opportunity to swim. One of my favorite books as a kid was Rani and the mermaid lagoon, but I don't remember if it holds up. Also there's a whole plot about Rani-bat that I've heard about and it just sounds wild. This is all in the Gail Carson Levine fairy dust trilogy.
Oooh! I have liked everything by Gail Carson Levine that I have read thus far. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 No problem! The lore in the books is more consistant, and honestly the books are a wild ride, I highly recommend all of them.
_There are 7 of these?!_
...I remember back when Secret of the Wings was still considered new...
I loved these movies as a kid...
I gotta say though, from a standpoint of Tinkerbell as a character a literal tinker fairy who makes mechanisms and invents gadgets and gizmos. Tinkerbell tinkering up an idea to fix her broken wing is so in character for tink and it would've been amazing if she could invent a way of flying for the disabled fairies. Character and design wise I think it would've been so cool to see.
I always thought of it as they showed full time disability via the King, but also showed short term disabilty via Tinkerbell, and how others can help them (in this case using Periwinkle healing her wing via the sparkle as an analogy for organ or blood stem cell transplants)...at least thats how my ADHD brain thought of it as. 😅😐 (editted to fix typos!)
As a child, I admit loving the happy ending, and the idea that as sisters their wings could be a template for each other... but this video makes an amazing point. I do remember being sad that Rani was never in the movies, I loved her story. At least the Lord of Winter or whatever is left alone? (Tho don't get me started on the plot hole with flying over winter and such)
they could've easily made a mechanical wing set that would work really well for toys and costumes and only looks different from the back
Despite me not being physically disabled, this video helped me realize why I remember Lord Milori’s story so well. Also it is strange that Tink didn’t get a mechanical wing and it’s odd that her wing broke in the first place when that plot point got resolved in a short amount of time.
Yo it's hard to get the *vibe* of a character while translating it into your own style, but you did such a good job.
I love these kinds of videos because media aimed at children often helps form their perspectives about the world. It's so important to see disability on screen from a young age. I can only hope companies start doing better as people like you bring more attention to these issues. Such a great video.
Also, all hail Lord M'lord! (I laughed so hard)
In the books there's a water fairy called Rani who cut off her wings so that she could swim. She flies on the back of a dove.
"This is why you're the greatest Lord, Lord m'Lord"
It would have been so much cooler if Tink had lost her wing permanently because then we would see all the contraptions and mobility devices she'd make to help her get to wherever she needed to go. Really missed chance. WOuld've been so cool.
Uhh then how can you explain her being ablebodied in Peter Pan??
I’m not gonna lie I actually did forget that this movie was about disability until I saw this video which is strange because it was my favorite movie when I was like 8 - 11
Ok right off the bat I see a parallel between how fairies are supposed to choose their powers from the getgo and how kids are supposed to know what they want to grow up to be. Look how anxious Tinker Bell is before and after she chooses her power!
Dewey is a play on the Dewey decimal system, created by some guy named Dewey. He created the organization system for libraries.
Their fairy books did as well. One of the water fairies cut off her wings to swim with mermaids. Rani then was changed in Disney merchandise and imaging to have no wings
I think a steampunk/leafy wing would have been SO cool
I was so interested in seeing what clever way they would come up with to ‘fix’ her wing (without it just healing up completely fine with not even a scar)and then they pulled the twin stuff and I was so disappointed. I thought they would make a new wing for her or use spider silk to kinda hold it together so she could still fly but nope. If they wanted the broken wing thing but not to change a character design they should’ve done it to periwinkle and it would’ve been so easy, she was introduced to the franchise in this movie so her broken wing couldn’t just been an aspect of her original character design.
thinking about it in hindsight, is the secret of the wings is that it's okay to use your twin to benefit your medical procedures /j
Y'know, I kind of wonder if perhaps they could have gone for the best of both worlds by having Tink stay with the broken wing for like the next three movies, maybe with some more expansion on the twin wing magic stuff, and THEN, after they've shown her spend years with it and adapt to her disability, let them discover the twins can heal each others' wings thing. Temporary redesign that they can capitalize on, maybe even alter the Disney logo/Disney Fastplay thingies for disabled Tink, and it's better disabled representation, and then eventually they get flying Tink back in time for the next Peter Pan movie.
I was bummed out when her wings were fixed too. It was such a big moment for her as a main character, and she suffered the consequences of rushing into the winter fairies territory unprepared.
Tinkerbelle being magically fixed JUST because she was lucky enough to have a sister with the exact same wings as her is wack. It's like some weird privilege
She could have still continued doing her job as a tinker , her flight isnt necessary to continue her life and do her part in the world. It's a shame they just had to pull that magical solution on her, especially since they clearly are willing to make movies that ARENT focused on Tinkerbelle (Neverbeast for example). They could have had Tinkerbelle disabled and take the time to make movies focused on her friends instead if they had to.
I remember watching it as a kid and remembering that there were disabled fairies but also forgot Tinkerbell got healed at the end.
Edit: In your other fairy video i commented about Tinkerbell as well :DD
No joke, when I first watched the Secret of the Wings, I never once realized the Lord Milori was the fairy with the broken wing before they flat out showed his wings and I think that is awesome.
Because no one, NO ONE mentions it, puts him down about or any of the other tropes that disabled people get stuck with.
He is in a high position, everyone respects him and I wish media portrayed that more.
Rani was my favourite fairy from the book series, she had her wings torn off in order to swim - she was the only fairy without wings.
When I first watched the movie, I didn't even NOTICE his wing was broken!
What they should have done is taken one of the other main fairies and tore her wings. They wouldn't have to worry about continuity with Peter Pan. And Tink could have engineered something new to help her.
Even if Disney wanted to not think about Tink's diability in the future, or wrap up the move quickly, they could've eone that REALLY easily. I'm thinking it would go something like this:
Instead of the "wing healing scene", Lord Milory steps up to Tink to comfort her with something like "I know it's hard, but you can manage. I do." (Which I think could be a really powerful scene, both for Tink and Queen Clarion). The rest of the movie continues with the Winter wonderland scene as usual, but Tink is on the ground. At the end, one of the other fairies talks to Tink about her disability. "Man, that's going to be really hard" and stuff like that. Then Tink could smile, say, "Oh, I've got some ideas." And unroll a blueprint of a new wing like the one you painted.
The screen fades to the credits, and as they go by, pictures show up on the sides. They show Tinker Bell working on her wings (asking birds for feathers, building it, trying and failing to fly, back to the blueprints, rebuilding it) and at the end, show a large picture of Tink flying with her new wings.
Then, just redesign her 3d model to include her half-bird wing, and... POOF! You're done!
What's Tinkerbell from? Peter Pan. Have you seen her in Peter Pan? How do her wings look? Broken? Cracked?
the very least they could've done was have the heal leave a scar that inhibited her movement. Just like, she stumbles a bit while flying later on and can't fly in strong winds at all. they didn't even have to add the scar, it could just be implied. Maybe have her figure out something to help with this, like c'mon. if they wanted the wing to break so badly, just do a little extra with her animation that implies a disability of sorts. not the best option, but better than her straight up getting revived by the power of love
You ever realize that winter fairies were at the home tree to give the snowflake for tinkerbell to choose from and then they pulled out this whole mess of can't cross the line out of nowhere
Love the redesign and it shows how much potential was lost by Disney choosing not to re-design the character they decided would have a disability story.
If they wanted to keep Tinkerbell’s design the same, they could have had her gain a scar on her torn wing and made her wing weaker, leading her to adapt and create ways to fly longer distances. We could have gotten a scene with Lord Malory and Tink discussing ways he has gotten around and even possibly seen Tinkerbell make Malory some sort of prosthetic wing using her abilities.
I see everyone talking about how Tink could figure out something to either alp her with her broken wing or Pariwinkele but than the thing about the wings would be pointless. Why have a movie about a secret of wings if there is no real thing besides the glow?
Dewey/Fairy Einstein is also disabled. He has to use a staff (we don't really see him without it, ever, meaning he needs; it looks like he has flying trouble) and when he travels a fair distance, he either rides the Bobcat, Fiona, or an Owl himself. Also, the Sparrow-Man thing is from the books.
dude, I love TinkerBell she was my fairy hero cause of her creativity and wanting to help others and always makes new inventions here and there, she is still my hero and now that I think about it, it has shown a few times of TinkerBell showing of her sometimes being distracted or has one mind set on 1 thing, I sometimes do that two since I am Autistic
They should have had perrywinkle break a wing, because they wouldn’t mind redesigned her. Also Tink making a new wing for her sister would be very sweet
Also, could you see Lord Milori possibly being a mentor to Periwinkle? Seeing as she is a winter fairy and would be in a similar situation to him in this headcanon
fyi, in the books there is a water fairy who is Tink's friends, who dosen't have wings. Rani is her name
It's just because she has nonbroken wings in Peter Pan. It's the issue with prequels, no stakes that affect the main movie can stick very long. Still.... It was such an interesting plot point to have her break a wing, and I was so disappointed when it got IMMEDIATELY fixed. Can you imagine if at the end of HTTYD, it was revealed a Night Fury can heal any injury, even regrow limbs, so Hiccup's foot is just fine and the only reason no one knew it was possible is because no one had ever seen, let alone befriended, a Night Fury before?
It was my understanding that this story takes place before "Peter Pan", and since Tinker Bell still had her wings intact in that movie, they left her wings intact for continuity purposes.
Yeah that is the trouble with prequels. But then again the Tinker Bell in Peter Pan and the Tinker Bell in her own movies are such massively different characters that it really wouldn't have been a stretch to just call them alternate universes.
@@Oakwyrm I don't know how well people would accept that reasoning given the number of complaints I hear about "Dragons: Rescue Riders".
I noticed an mistake with the role of not go into winter. In the vary first movie of Tinkerbell, she and the boys visited every season. And there was a queen instead of a king. Just a funny error I think about sometimes
Disney did actually create another permanently disabled fairy, but you only see her in the books. I can't remember if she was a light fairy or a water fairy, but I do remember the plot of the book was supposed to be her putting on some sort of light show that should have been virtually impossible for a flightless fairy.
It was actually pretty good a story for a kids book and it would have made a really interesting movie. Kinda sucks that Disney never made a movie about it, more than likely because Tinkerbell was not the main focus of the story
in the old picture books (specifically Fairy Dust and the Quest for the Egg by Gail Carson Levine) Rani (a fairy in the story) actually cuts off her wings to go underwater to the merpeople. As far as I remember nothing much happens afterwards, there's no magical cure and it just gets accepted. Of course they cry while her wings are cut off, as does she, but I don't think they ever view her with pity or sorrow going forward
OMG THANK YOU!!! i would have loved it if tinkerbell hadn't been "cured"! imagine how amazing it would've been to have such an iconic protagonist be disabled. as much as i love secret of the wings, i really can't stand the ending.
and with tinkerbell being a tinker fairy, she could've made her own flying apparatus similar to a wheelchair.
i just realised this is what you were drawing😂 it's really sunny and i can barely see the screen so i've been listening just audio until now
I think the main reason they had to heal Tinkerbell is because the Fairies movies are prequels to Peter Pan.
Revealing that the power of twin magic can fix a broken wing also feels very exclusive, imagine a fairy breaks their wing by accident & discovers that the only way to cure is if you have a twin, which this hypothetical fairy didn’t have. Does Disney really think that’s a fair message to give to disabled children?
This movie inspired my favorite and most longest running oc! I was disappointed with the ending of secret of the wings so I made a fairy with broken wings and gets on fine without ever having them "fixed"
I use to believe that the light from their wings can also be a good healing source for other fairys
Used to be my favorite Tinkerbell movie when I was little. Heck, the pillow I got from it is sitting right under me from years ago. Only now did I realize it was because not only did I think Tink and Peri were girlfriends and I'm les, but because she was disabled for a time. I uh...I did not care that she regained her flying because I was little and everyone around me hated disability so. Yeah.
Thanks for reminding me this exists ig? Idk where I was going with that lol
Ig I just wish she had stayed disabled and any accomodations were treated like a good thing because I know that would've helped me accept myself more early on when I was little.
Fairie version of kinesiology tape might work better (given the size of the rip and the fact its still intact ) the stuff this really strong fabric-covered tape that moves with the body is a shit to remove its nice for a bit of short-term support without anything bulky and shoe destroying
Yeah, kinesiology tape is a wonderful+awful thing. When my plantar fascitis was flaring really bad in 2018, my most trusted physiotherapist taught me to tape, and that combined with a better exercise program put the inflammation back into remission.
So the tape helped a lot, but the difficulty and outright pain when taking it off, and it destroying two pairs of socks for good, worked as a hell of a motivator for me to keep on doing my exercises regularly. I don't want to have to tape again!
@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 i found taking it off underwater but ya try and avoid tape when i can also you have to realy push down on the tape around the feet and add other tape to help hold it in place it tends not to sick right
@@laok yup, and the skin needs to be super clean and dry to ensure that the tape sticks as well as possible.
I was thinking that Tinkerbell and all other tinkers would be making prosthetic wings out of waxed onion peels. This tiny film between the actual layers seems perfect for that use, and wax or other material would stabilize it. Wax does not melt unless you put it near the fire source.
Maybe a bit controversial but instead of the sparkle healing the wing-it transfers the injury to periwinkle. Almost like donating a kidney to a sick relative.
And now we can go one of two ways .
since Periwinkle wings are used to the cold environment they might have an ability they heal themselves. Winter fairy wings unbeknownst to the fairy actually heal micro-cracks caused by the cold and this is just needs a splint so it will heal right.
Or Tinkerbell creates and assisted device for her twin like the one drawn. Maybe even Lord milori since he still has a good chunk of his wing left
(Haven’t seen this movie but I adored the Disney Fairy trilogy by Gail Carson Levine) and Oh my God so what I’m hearing is they gave Milori the Rani treatment! Aka - non-flighted fairy who has learned to navigate a very vertically oriented society with the help of a bird as a mobility assistant and has very much come to terms with their disability. I love that!
That Tink cop out has me fuming tho. As a bioengineer who literally went to school with the goal of designing prosthetics, having such a big character as someone who’s become an amputee from traumatic injury would have been really cool, especially for kids coming to terms with amputations from accidents or cancer surgeries or that kind of thing to see. And its not like they’d be ret-conning Peter Pan or anything. Disney Fairies (the books) canonically happen after Peter Pan, and Tinker Bell series (the movies) are their own self-contained thing. It really seemed like a case of branding cowardice, especially juxtaposed to their treatment with Milori that seems so spot on. I adore your TinkerBell Prosthetic speedpaint By the way! Definitely fits the Pixie Hollow tech vibe!!
I was expecting Tinkerbell tinkering up something to aid the wing (like your drew) and was dissapointing they don't let her show off her talent and just had to do this
The Nostalgia has overtaken me. I remember when I was little I'd watch these movies at Non-Stop we always had them on DVD when we want on car trips. And seeing this video has made me remember the Majesty of the Tinkerbell series. My favorite Tinkerbell movie is Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Rescue or something like that.
I always thought the bigger measage was to face guilt/shame with the people you love and trust and love will heal it. If only Queen Clarion could have faced Lord Milori and grown TOGETHER instead of going inward and building up walls
And putting that with the messages you put in this video, it could speak VOLUMES about how society treats the disabled vs how they should be treated. Leave the individual to themselves to find their own way or lean together and heal each other, bettering each other around us