Took my reactive dog into the room for vaccinations and waited. Doctor entered and my dog wanted to tear him to shreds. I couldn't calm him or distract him and the doctor couldn't even hand him a treat. It was such a commotion that staff members were looking through the little window to see if everyting was ok. There was no way that Doctor was getting anywhere near my dog that day. He said that perhaps it was protectiveness of me and suggested that I hand my dog off to a vet tech. Did so just outside the clinic and as soon as he was away from me and in someone else's hands he became a little creampuff. I was braced for the sounds of a tussle and snarling/barking but heard nothing. Literally two minutes later I heard the 'clinkety-clink' of the collar he wears. *He and the vet tech were running through the hallways and playing!* He said "You have such a sweet dog!" and I learned a big lesson that day. He has been super protective since day one so, for occasions like that, I need to step out of the picture (which may literally involve leaving the building.) I do plan to take him back for some 'dry-runs' with many treats and friendly encounters so that he acclimates and even looks forward to going there in the future.
For anyone reading this: I know that dog training can be difficult sometimes, but you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and your dog (and your own sanity) will thank you for it! ❤️💕
I love this. It takes a lot of patience, skill, and compassion to work with a dog that can react in those ways in a stressful environment. You can tell that owner loves her dog and good for her for being versatile, strong, and soft all at once. Great job to everyone and praying for a quick recovery on that handsome boy. Merry Christmas!
To countercondition the reaction to the smell at the vet you could also use a light scarf with diluted lavender oil while training vet visits at home when the dog feels chill and safe to put it on when you go to the vet. Just to overpower the smell a bit and condition the wanted behavior to the smell. I did this for calm subway rides and it definitely helped the process.
Adaptil (canine appeasing pheromone) spray would be another great option. I'm a vet tech and we use this frequently at the clinic. We made a bunch of bandanas in different sizes and will apply Adaptil to them prior to placing them on patients that exhibit fear/stress.
YOU ARE AWESOME! I rescued a 3yr old German shepard/Golden retriever street dog who was in the pound 9 months. He jumped, mouthed, ran thru doors/gates and on 5th day attacked my 9yr old golden retriever. Kneeing did nothing. I watched your training. Put a regular collar and leash on him, 4 corrections inside, 10 minutes outside work, he attacked my dog once in that time and got the correction. I walk into him with the knee combo. MIRACLE. No more bad behavior. The mouthing stopped along with jumping even off leash now. I am a tiny senior lady. If I can be boss, anyone can do this, if they just listen to you. THANK YOU!! I will introduce him to my sons dogs after he watches your instruction. Today is 9th day with us. From problem to dream dog, and we owe it all to you.
My Rotti was super reactive at the vets office and due to her arthritis she had to go a lot. The vet had me walk out of the room and turned out she was protective of me. She had acupuncture done for couple of years and was a so sweet to all as long as I was out of the room.
Usually their owner is stressed as well and the dog picks up on that as well. Imagine a bunch of stressed owners and their pets feeding of each others energy . I feel the same way going to the doctors lol.
My GSD freaks out at the vet. Thankfully, her regular vet, also a fellow GSD owner, told me that she thought it was her being protective over me. So they just take her in the back for her exams instead of trying to do them with me present. It is so much quicker and doesn't prolong the stress for my girl; as soon as she can't see me, the barking and stops. They are just on the other side of the door from me so I can hear everything; them loving on her and calling her a good girl. So thankful that the vet didn't just immediately go into meds as the solution. She's had to see other vets in the same hospital on occasion and thankfully the charts give clear instructions on how to handle her; I am extremely grateful.
This is heart breaking. Two of my dogs had surgery for spinal issues, they would have become paralysed without it. They were in a lot of pain. They ended up having a great life. I feel for the owner and this boy. I hope there will a good outcome for him ❤
My vet office is close. Prior to Covid, I took one of my vet office trouble dogs to their office multiple times when he did NOT have an appointment. He got lots of treats and affection and got to associate the office smells with good experiences multiple times before his next procedure.
Informative video, thanks to the owners and best wishes for the full and speedy recovery of their beautiful Doberman. Thanks for the tip about keeping under that underneath foreleg. I find I have to put my dog reactive rescue on her side sometimes to get some control and calmness back, and this tells me to keep her forepaws out and also not pushing against me. Appreciate Beckmans'!
I’m lucking. I have a special kind of dog who just loves 💕 going to the vet! 😆He has positive associations with the vet office. Needless to say that the staff are amazing and he knows them well.
What I hate is when a vet tells someone that their dog has behavioral issues when they have never seen the dog outside of their practice. If you met my dentist he would tell you that I was nuts because I am petrified of the dentist. You cannot judge a dogs temperament at the place that scares them to death. Dogs can smell, death, the vet office is full of the smell of death, disease, chemicals, etc. People there are freaked because their dogs are sick injured so the vibe is awful! I was a vet surgical tech for years. You would not believe what happens to the dogs when you drop them off for treatment. Stay with your dog unless you REALLY trust your vet.
Idk, as a vet tech myself for most of my life, in several student different hospitals both regular and emergency care, I don't feel this is a fair representation!
I used to recommend that clients with dogs that had major issues at the vet office, come in on a regular basis for positive interactions (during slow times) hang out in the waiting room, get them on the scale & the receptionist could throw or give treats, (depending on temperament)... but most don't realize how important this is until the dog had an issue that required regular visits.
@Gail Everett I no longer work in vet med, but you should make a list of your ideas, or a proposal to contribute to the "fear free" visit program... I was willing to go into those details & help work with the clients that followed through and actually did it. It was worth it in the long run for us & the patient. Glad to hear it is becoming more common. Seemed like common sense to me! 😊
My Dobe mix freaks out at the vet as well. What he said is 💯 correct. If you don’t stay calm and confident, your dog will freak out more. Learned that the time I took her to get spayed.
My vet office is great. I took my standard schnauzer in to weigh her every couple of weeks. She is leash reactive so, as her spay appoint neared at 8 mo, I took her into the office 3 days in a row just to hang out for 20 - 30 mins. It helped the day of the appoint. Fearful of the vet, but walked off with the vet well and when I picked her up the next day, there were no complaints.
That smell you talk about, other than the smell of a multitude of dogs and cats, every veterinary clinic i have ever been into has always had the overwhelming smell of Hibitane (Chlorehexidine), its a disinfectant and antiseptic used before surgery and also to sterilize surgical equipment. Ive also been given it by veterinarians to treat my dogs for things like skin infections but it can also be used to treat abscesses, fungal infections and wounds. The point is it has a very particular smell that vet clinics reek of, pouring some into a very hot sink or bowl and letting the smell permeate through the room would definitely elicit a very similar smell to a vets office, so maybe in the future it might be something to consider possibly using in sessions to replicate a visit to a veterinarian more authentically since the smell is so particular
50 lb lab mix Tried it. Badly scratched from rear legs, and had to quit so I could clean up the blood. My blood. Previously, vet had to put her out to check out conjunctivitis from a scratched eye. Then we were completely unable to administer antibiotic eyedrops, even after giving her a sedative. Will try again when I’ve got protective clothing on, and a muzzle. And replenished my bandaid stock.
Just got Susan Garrett's pedicure please. In the one comment, the one couple started working at home twice a day every day with their cat who needed bloodwork done every few weeks. They would set up a towel on a table and use chopsticks (not right away but gradually working their way up to that). The next visit to the vet, the vet wanted specific directions from the clients on what they did so he could let his other clients know, as the cat was a different animal - so much better. I have my guys used to a Hound of the Baskervilles muzzle and tell all my students how important it is to get your dog used to a muzzle, even if your dog is nice, especially if you travel with your dog. If something bad happens to the dog, the first thing a vet is going to do is put a muzzle on the dog. Why freak the dog out twice - once with the muzzle and once with whatever the vet has to do to them? Also had a student with a Chinese Crested who started going to the vet with 3 muzzles. Now, with constant training classes at the local dog club, the dog doesn't even need 1 muzzle for the vet. My stepdaughter's Rottie goes to the vet with a muzzle on, but because my stepdaughter gets so worked up, she has to hand the dog off to the staff. The staff is able to take the muzzle off to work on the Rottie, once my stepdaughter's left the room.
poor baby. you can tell he's in pain. My dogs vet is scared of him or the Doberman breed, idk. last time I took him in for a checkup (first time I was allowed in because of all this covid bs) I offered to hold his head close to me as I could see the vet was nervous around him. considering finding a new vet but no one is taking on new customers rn due to "covid"
We were in a 'dog store'; all dog stuff. My dog loves that place and she's very friendly with the clerk and the other customers. One day a customer approached and my dog backed away from her. I didn't know it, but my dog knew right away that that woman is a vet tech. She smells like a veterinary clinic -- at least, to dogs she does.
Love this coaching the human video. We need some Joel meditations or something to help us HUMANS not freak out when things are heading sideways. That's always my downfall. 😅
Not sure what's wrong with dog health wise but if it's a spine issue Raw Diet would help along with bone broth and BioPreparation Pet Formula F3+ works wonders. My dog has IVDD a disc disease and this helped him a lot not saying a cure but reducing inflammation. Hope this helps. Good protein Beef,turkey,rabbit. Wish you best of luck for him
Both of my dogs don’t like the vet. They have both had not the greatest experiences. My schnauzer I can handle. My Doberman she’s only been twice and she wasn’t reactive she was just terrified. So my vet told us to come in every once in awhile for just treats and to see the workers. We haven’t done it yet
Our GSD doesn't like the small vet room with 2 others coming in and the table which they can't pick him up at all. He jumps up and wraps his front legs around your neck, arm or body. He weighs 105 lbs and over 6ft when up in the air. He is perfectly fine in the lobby. Just lays there calmly other dogs and people no problem, but that little room he hates. I can try and get him to lay down haven't tried that. They did the shot thing broke 3 needles. We tried drugs which didn't work at all. He had a really bad spider bite and it had to be treated and sticked twice. They tried to wrangle him which just made it worse. The shot worked but it would be nice to just take him in the room and them not gang up on him.
Gotta take one of the family dogs to the vet this week. Cockapoo 12 yrs old. Is used to being handled and has always been chill with groomers and vets. Groomer noticed an infected appearing anal lump. Every time I've tried to touch his tail to even look at it he immediately tries to bite me. So out of character for him. It must be painful. I was watching this video trying to get some clue as to how to hold him for examination by vet. Do you think it would work to try this side lying position along with a cone for extra protection? Or would a muzzle be better?
I have a pittie foster that I took to VEG ( Veterinary Emergency Group , which is an urgent care for dogs ) a few weeks ago , she went berserk,, tried to bite vet tech , I brought a bucket muzzle with me but could not get it on her muzzle , I had gloves on but she still gave me a snap, I tried for two hours , I ended up leaving , they wanted nothing to do with her,,her background was abusive and when she sees a muzzle she freaks out , so I really don’t know what to do, I’ve, I do rescue and I’ve had many dogs but never had this problem , it’s a biggie
owners should practice this with their dog every day and then give the dog a treat afterward; by the 2nd week the dog will probably just lie still and wait for the treat.
How is he with other people in general? Would he react at all if you took the leash and walked away from the owner? Would he freak out if you gave him a pet?
Joel, Have you ever seen what actually went on during the "Pavlov dogs" experiments? Just awful. Some good came from them but how bad it was is AWAYS left out of the story. Love your clips.
@@BDTraining I find it really interesting how psychology binds in with dog training because I’m taking a psychology course in school, for instance we talked about the learned helplessness thing at school and Pavlov’s dog, it’s cool to see it being brought up
The term, learned helplessness is being misused here. Fortunately, the actions that Joel is teaching his client here do not produce learned helplessness. That would be a bad thing. Intentionally inducing authentic learned helplessness would be psychological abuse. Joel is teaching his client to apply increasing physical restraint when the dog panics or exerts effort to fight or flee. Joel is also teaching the handler to relax the restraint when the dog relaxes. This restraint and relaxation of restraint, pressure applied and removed with precise timing, consistently with the dog's reactions, teaches the dog that she does, in fact, have control over her situation. She can make the physical restraint pressure go away by choosing relaxation/submission. This is R- and R+ (accentuated if the handler provides pleasurable touch when the dog relaxes -- in contrast to the restraint). This is a clear model of operant learning. A key element to learned helplessness is that the dog discovers that his behavior has no effect on consequences. In other words, the consequences are naturally or artificially structured to inhibit operant learning. Please stop teaching the misuse of the concept of learned helplessness as if it has beneficial practical application.
@@TPinesGold Why did you put your comment under my comment about Pavlov's dogs and the disgusting techniques Pavlov used to get his results? There was no teaching.... AT ALL... with Pavlov's experiments. Only conditioning. I think you should have started your own thread with that tedious diatribe. I'm not even sure if I agree with you because it's got so many vague terms that you claim are objective with no wiggle room. Joel agreed, so I'll deflect to agree too. But if you're so sure you've got such a strong grasp of "correct" terminology and techniques with doggie training..... maybe you should start your own channel instead of HIDING this wealth of knowledge in my punnie comment. Just saying.
People who live with a dog probably want their dog to live a long and healthy life. Of course, I also hope that my Shiba Inu, An, will stay with us for as long as possible. The secret to a long life for your dog is good food, keeping the body clean, moderate exercise, and loving skin-to-skin contact. I read in an article that \"dogs that are gooey and cuddly live longer. It's okay to be sticky! So I decided to give An a lot of hugs a day! I've made up my mind!🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶💖💖💖
My vet hasn't been letting clients in since covid, so they come out to your car and take the dog themselves. I find quite annoying, handing my dog to a stranger and then of course she doesn't want to walk with them so I have to always take her to the door and then they manage to get her looked at. Luckily she's never been aggressive with them but I don't really blame her if she was, since I can't be there to calm her. Gotta take her for a lapspay in a few weeks actually. It's always so awkward waiting for them to come get her from your car, for me anyway.
I'll be honest, as a vet tech on and off for most of my life, dogs are rarely better behaved, less nervous, aggressive etc. with the owner. Since covid has changed how many vet offices have operated, I actually think the experience is overall less stressful and quicker with the owners in the car. In a perfect world, every owner would bring their pets in just to socialize them to being handled at the vet, and every vet hospital would be happy to have people bring their pets in just to get used to the vet office. Unfortunately neither situation happens regularly. I think most vet hospitals would be surprised to have an owner suggest it, and most vet hospitals are likely too over booked and under staffed to recommend it to all their clients even if it would be best for all involved, especially the dog! There are tons of things I'd love to see change in the vet industry. Far too big for this channel to address. All we can do is try to make it as good as possible for our individual pets, and I think Joel's advice is good as far as that is concerned!
Some chick named "Katie Hanson" replying to Dave Barry on vid 3 mos ago "Crazy Reactive Montage" something like that. 2nd dog was Seraphina and Bosco was in there. Anyway chick posting link to Positive Reinforcement Only
Took my reactive dog into the room for vaccinations and waited. Doctor entered and my dog wanted to tear him to shreds. I couldn't calm him or distract him and the doctor couldn't even hand him a treat. It was such a commotion that staff members were looking through the little window to see if everyting was ok.
There was no way that Doctor was getting anywhere near my dog that day. He said that perhaps it was protectiveness of me and suggested that I hand my dog off to a vet tech. Did so just outside the clinic and as soon as he was away from me and in someone else's hands he became a little creampuff. I was braced for the sounds of a tussle and snarling/barking but heard nothing. Literally two minutes later I heard the 'clinkety-clink' of the collar he wears. *He and the vet tech were running through the hallways and playing!* He said "You have such a sweet dog!" and I learned a big lesson that day. He has been super protective since day one so, for occasions like that, I need to step out of the picture (which may literally involve leaving the building.)
I do plan to take him back for some 'dry-runs' with many treats and friendly encounters so that he acclimates and even looks forward to going there in the future.
Your comment makes me feel better, I'm taking my very excitable mastiff in today for suture removal.
For anyone reading this: I know that dog training can be difficult sometimes, but you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and your dog (and your own sanity) will thank you for it! ❤️💕
I love this. It takes a lot of patience, skill, and compassion to work with a dog that can react in those ways in a stressful environment. You can tell that owner loves her dog and good for her for being versatile, strong, and soft all at once. Great job to everyone and praying for a quick recovery on that handsome boy. Merry Christmas!
To countercondition the reaction to the smell at the vet you could also use a light scarf with diluted lavender oil while training vet visits at home when the dog feels chill and safe to put it on when you go to the vet. Just to overpower the smell a bit and condition the wanted behavior to the smell. I did this for calm subway rides and it definitely helped the process.
I like that
Adaptil (canine appeasing pheromone) spray would be another great option. I'm a vet tech and we use this frequently at the clinic. We made a bunch of bandanas in different sizes and will apply Adaptil to them prior to placing them on patients that exhibit fear/stress.
Nice idea. I’m going to try that next time.
Great video. My dog hates going to the vet. This video was needed and appreciated.
YOU ARE AWESOME! I rescued a 3yr old German shepard/Golden retriever street dog who was in the pound 9 months. He jumped, mouthed, ran thru doors/gates and on 5th day attacked my 9yr old golden retriever. Kneeing did nothing. I watched your training. Put a regular collar and leash on him, 4 corrections inside, 10 minutes outside work, he attacked my dog once in that time and got the correction. I walk into him with the knee combo. MIRACLE. No more bad behavior. The mouthing stopped along with jumping even off leash now. I am a tiny senior lady. If I can be boss, anyone can do this, if they just listen to you. THANK YOU!! I will introduce him to my sons dogs after he watches your instruction. Today is 9th day with us. From problem to dream dog, and we owe it all to you.
Which video is it that you watched to learn about the mouthing? I need this!
My Rotti was super reactive at the vets office and due to her arthritis she had to go a lot. The vet had me walk out of the room and turned out she was protective of me. She had acupuncture done for couple of years and was a so sweet to all as long as I was out of the room.
Wow...... This makes me feel better about taking my boy to the vet today for suture removal.
Usually their owner is stressed as well and the dog picks up on that as well. Imagine a bunch of stressed owners and their pets feeding of each others energy . I feel the same way going to the doctors lol.
My GSD freaks out at the vet. Thankfully, her regular vet, also a fellow GSD owner, told me that she thought it was her being protective over me. So they just take her in the back for her exams instead of trying to do them with me present. It is so much quicker and doesn't prolong the stress for my girl; as soon as she can't see me, the barking and stops. They are just on the other side of the door from me so I can hear everything; them loving on her and calling her a good girl. So thankful that the vet didn't just immediately go into meds as the solution. She's had to see other vets in the same hospital on occasion and thankfully the charts give clear instructions on how to handle her; I am extremely grateful.
Fantastic work, thanks Joel!
This is heart breaking. Two of my dogs had surgery for spinal issues, they would have become paralysed without it. They were in a lot of pain. They ended up having a great life. I feel for the owner and this boy.
I hope there will a good outcome for him ❤
What a great video you would never think you need until you need it!
My vet office is close. Prior to Covid, I took one of my vet office trouble dogs to their office multiple times when he did NOT have an appointment. He got lots of treats and affection and got to associate the office smells with good experiences multiple times before his next procedure.
Yes! This is great!
So much great info. Thanks! Heaps of appreciation and best wishes!
Wow so helpful. She did a good job following instructions. Hopefully she was able to follow at the actual vet.
Informative video, thanks to the owners and best wishes for the full and speedy recovery of their beautiful Doberman. Thanks for the tip about keeping under that underneath foreleg. I find I have to put my dog reactive rescue on her side sometimes to get some control and calmness back, and this tells me to keep her forepaws out and also not pushing against me. Appreciate Beckmans'!
I’m lucking. I have a special kind of dog who just loves 💕 going to the vet! 😆He has positive associations with the vet office. Needless to say that the staff are amazing and he knows them well.
Doctor offices are the same for humans that are scared of a hospitals. Such a meaningful scent.
What I hate is when a vet tells someone that their dog has behavioral issues when they have never seen the dog outside of their practice. If you met my dentist he would tell you that I was nuts because I am petrified of the dentist. You cannot judge a dogs temperament at the place that scares them to death. Dogs can smell, death, the vet office is full of the smell of death, disease, chemicals, etc. People there are freaked because their dogs are sick injured so the vibe is awful! I was a vet surgical tech for years. You would not believe what happens to the dogs when you drop them off for treatment. Stay with your dog unless you REALLY trust your vet.
Idk, as a vet tech myself for most of my life, in several student different hospitals both regular and emergency care, I don't feel this is a fair representation!
Great job guys!
What an outstanding owner. ❤️🥰
Very informative. Thankyou
I used to recommend that clients with dogs that had major issues at the vet office, come in on a regular basis for positive interactions (during slow times) hang out in the waiting room, get them on the scale & the receptionist could throw or give treats, (depending on temperament)... but most don't realize how important this is until the dog had an issue that required regular visits.
I’ve advised the same thing
@Gail Everett I no longer work in vet med, but you should make a list of your ideas, or a proposal to contribute to the "fear free" visit program... I was willing to go into those details & help work with the clients that followed through and actually did it. It was worth it in the long run for us & the patient. Glad to hear it is becoming more common. Seemed like common sense to me! 😊
My Dobe mix freaks out at the vet as well. What he said is 💯 correct. If you don’t stay calm and confident, your dog will freak out more.
Learned that the time I took her to get spayed.
Omg I have a dog with a broken back and bad hips that is TERRIBLY reactive at the vet. This was awesome, thanks Joel!!
My vet office is great. I took my standard schnauzer in to weigh her every couple of weeks. She is leash reactive so, as her spay appoint neared at 8 mo, I took her into the office 3 days in a row just to hang out for 20 - 30 mins. It helped the day of the appoint. Fearful of the vet, but walked off with the vet well and when I picked her up the next day, there were no complaints.
More real life skill training I love it!
That smell you talk about, other than the smell of a multitude of dogs and cats, every veterinary clinic i have ever been into has always had the overwhelming smell of Hibitane (Chlorehexidine), its a disinfectant and antiseptic used before surgery and also to sterilize surgical equipment. Ive also been given it by veterinarians to treat my dogs for things like skin infections but it can also be used to treat abscesses, fungal infections and wounds. The point is it has a very particular smell that vet clinics reek of, pouring some into a very hot sink or bowl and letting the smell permeate through the room would definitely elicit a very similar smell to a vets office, so maybe in the future it might be something to consider possibly using in sessions to replicate a visit to a veterinarian more authentically since the smell is so particular
Would love to see how you treat prey drive.
I have had my dog for nine years, I just cannot let him off near sheep, rabbits, squirrels ect..
50 lb lab mix Tried it. Badly scratched from rear legs, and had to quit so I could clean up the blood. My blood.
Previously, vet had to put her out to check out conjunctivitis from a scratched eye. Then we were completely unable to administer antibiotic eyedrops, even after giving her a sedative.
Will try again when I’ve got protective clothing on, and a muzzle. And replenished my bandaid stock.
Just got Susan Garrett's pedicure please. In the one comment, the one couple started working at home twice a day every day with their cat who needed bloodwork done every few weeks. They would set up a towel on a table and use chopsticks (not right away but gradually working their way up to that). The next visit to the vet, the vet wanted specific directions from the clients on what they did so he could let his other clients know, as the cat was a different animal - so much better. I have my guys used to a Hound of the Baskervilles muzzle and tell all my students how important it is to get your dog used to a muzzle, even if your dog is nice, especially if you travel with your dog. If something bad happens to the dog, the first thing a vet is going to do is put a muzzle on the dog. Why freak the dog out twice - once with the muzzle and once with whatever the vet has to do to them? Also had a student with a Chinese Crested who started going to the vet with 3 muzzles. Now, with constant training classes at the local dog club, the dog doesn't even need 1 muzzle for the vet. My stepdaughter's Rottie goes to the vet with a muzzle on, but because my stepdaughter gets so worked up, she has to hand the dog off to the staff. The staff is able to take the muzzle off to work on the Rottie, once my stepdaughter's left the room.
Poor dog. :( At least he has an owner that loves him.
Oh that broke my heart to see that baby so scared. My dog goes and hides in the corner or butt scoots around but then submits.
poor baby. you can tell he's in pain. My dogs vet is scared of him or the Doberman breed, idk. last time I took him in for a checkup (first time I was allowed in because of all this covid bs) I offered to hold his head close to me as I could see the vet was nervous around him. considering finding a new vet but no one is taking on new customers rn due to "covid"
We were in a 'dog store'; all dog stuff. My dog loves that place and she's very friendly with the clerk and the other customers. One day a customer approached and my dog backed away from her. I didn't know it, but my dog knew right away that that woman is a vet tech. She smells like a veterinary clinic -- at least, to dogs she does.
I use this technique to clip my bf's dog's nails. I place him on his little cushion/bed to make it as comfortable as possible. Works great 🤙
Love this coaching the human video. We need some Joel meditations or something to help us HUMANS not freak out when things are heading sideways. That's always my downfall. 😅
Our vet at Adobe animal hospital prescribed meds to calm our dog before taking her. What is your opinion of that?
Not sure what's wrong with dog health wise but if it's a spine issue Raw Diet would help along with bone broth and BioPreparation Pet Formula F3+ works wonders. My dog has IVDD a disc disease and this helped him a lot not saying a cure but reducing inflammation. Hope this helps. Good protein Beef,turkey,rabbit. Wish you best of luck for him
My dog won't let anybody touch/pet her. In January she will have her vaccination visit to the vet. 😶
How do you deal with your dog talking back to you? The dog has everything it needs but just barks and bites me for no reason. Should I correct it?
Both of my dogs don’t like the vet. They have both had not the greatest experiences. My schnauzer I can handle. My Doberman she’s only been twice and she wasn’t reactive she was just terrified. So my vet told us to come in every once in awhile for just treats and to see the workers. We haven’t done it yet
I hope you take them up on the offer! I think that says a lot about your vet!
Our GSD doesn't like the small vet room with 2 others coming in and the table which they can't pick him up at all. He jumps up and wraps his front legs around your neck, arm or body. He weighs 105 lbs and over 6ft when up in the air. He is perfectly fine in the lobby. Just lays there calmly other dogs and people no problem, but that little room he hates. I can try and get him to lay down haven't tried that. They did the shot thing broke 3 needles. We tried drugs which didn't work at all. He had a really bad spider bite and it had to be treated and sticked twice. They tried to wrangle him which just made it worse. The shot worked but it would be nice to just take him in the room and them not gang up on him.
She should ask her vet if they have a house call service. My vet has this service and I know many others do to.
Gotta take one of the family dogs to the vet this week. Cockapoo 12 yrs old. Is used to being handled and has always been chill with groomers and vets. Groomer noticed an infected appearing anal lump. Every time I've tried to touch his tail to even look at it he immediately tries to bite me. So out of character for him. It must be painful. I was watching this video trying to get some clue as to how to hold him for examination by vet. Do you think it would work to try this side lying position along with a cone for extra protection? Or would a muzzle be better?
I have a pittie foster that I took to VEG ( Veterinary Emergency Group , which is an urgent care for dogs ) a few weeks ago , she went berserk,, tried to bite vet tech , I brought a bucket muzzle with me but could not get it on her muzzle , I had gloves on but she still gave me a snap, I tried for two hours , I ended up leaving , they wanted nothing to do with her,,her background was abusive and when she sees a muzzle she freaks out , so I really don’t know what to do, I’ve, I do rescue and I’ve had many dogs but never had this problem , it’s a biggie
😢 we have the same problem, couldn't have my bully seen by the vet
I'm surprised the vet doesn't let you come in and practice, just to desensitize him some in that not every visit is bad
owners should practice this with their dog every day and then give the dog a treat afterward; by the 2nd week the dog will probably just lie still and wait for the treat.
To me, when a dog shakes right after getting corrected, it looks like defiance.
Am I wrong?
Dogs shake to relieve the tension/stress built up in the muscles. They literally do shake it off :)
How is he with other people in general? Would he react at all if you took the leash and walked away from the owner? Would he freak out if you gave him a pet?
This was his second session. I fed him a bunch and am sure I could have pet him anywhere
@@BDTraining Keep up the great work! 100%
Joel,
Have you ever seen what actually went on during the "Pavlov dogs" experiments? Just awful. Some good came from them but how bad it was is AWAYS left out of the story.
Love your clips.
Yes the pictures are horrible. All that stuff is still happening to dogs today.
@@BDTraining I find it really interesting how psychology binds in with dog training because I’m taking a psychology course in school, for instance we talked about the learned helplessness thing at school and Pavlov’s dog, it’s cool to see it being brought up
The term, learned helplessness is being misused here. Fortunately, the actions that Joel is teaching his client here do not produce learned helplessness. That would be a bad thing. Intentionally inducing authentic learned helplessness would be psychological abuse. Joel is teaching his client to apply increasing physical restraint when the dog panics or exerts effort to fight or flee. Joel is also teaching the handler to relax the restraint when the dog relaxes. This restraint and relaxation of restraint, pressure applied and removed with precise timing, consistently with the dog's reactions, teaches the dog that she does, in fact, have control over her situation. She can make the physical restraint pressure go away by choosing relaxation/submission. This is R- and R+ (accentuated if the handler provides pleasurable touch when the dog relaxes -- in contrast to the restraint). This is a clear model of operant learning. A key element to learned helplessness is that the dog discovers that his behavior has no effect on consequences. In other words, the consequences are naturally or artificially structured to inhibit operant learning. Please stop teaching the misuse of the concept of learned helplessness as if it has beneficial practical application.
@@TPinesGold well said
@@TPinesGold
Why did you put your comment under my comment about Pavlov's dogs and the disgusting techniques Pavlov used to get his results? There was no teaching.... AT ALL... with Pavlov's experiments. Only conditioning.
I think you should have started your own thread with that tedious diatribe. I'm not even sure if I agree with you because it's got so many vague terms that you claim are objective with no wiggle room.
Joel agreed, so I'll deflect to agree too. But if you're so sure you've got such a strong grasp of "correct" terminology and techniques with doggie training..... maybe you should start your own channel instead of HIDING this wealth of knowledge in my punnie comment.
Just saying.
People who live with a dog probably want their dog to live a long and healthy life. Of course, I also hope that my Shiba Inu, An, will stay with us for as long as possible. The secret to a long life for your dog is good food, keeping the body clean, moderate exercise, and loving skin-to-skin contact. I read in an article that \"dogs that are gooey and cuddly live longer. It's okay to be sticky! So I decided to give An a lot of hugs a day! I've made up my mind!🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶💖💖💖
Olher sugestion: take the dog to the vet and then return home. This will make a better association too.
Also a good suggestion, but it only helps a little bit unless simply conditioning a puppy.
My vet hasn't been letting clients in since covid, so they come out to your car and take the dog themselves. I find quite annoying, handing my dog to a stranger and then of course she doesn't want to walk with them so I have to always take her to the door and then they manage to get her looked at. Luckily she's never been aggressive with them but I don't really blame her if she was, since I can't be there to calm her. Gotta take her for a lapspay in a few weeks actually. It's always so awkward waiting for them to come get her from your car, for me anyway.
I'll be honest, as a vet tech on and off for most of my life, dogs are rarely better behaved, less nervous, aggressive etc. with the owner. Since covid has changed how many vet offices have operated, I actually think the experience is overall less stressful and quicker with the owners in the car. In a perfect world, every owner would bring their pets in just to socialize them to being handled at the vet, and every vet hospital would be happy to have people bring their pets in just to get used to the vet office. Unfortunately neither situation happens regularly. I think most vet hospitals would be surprised to have an owner suggest it, and most vet hospitals are likely too over booked and under staffed to recommend it to all their clients even if it would be best for all involved, especially the dog! There are tons of things I'd love to see change in the vet industry. Far too big for this channel to address. All we can do is try to make it as good as possible for our individual pets, and I think Joel's advice is good as far as that is concerned!
@@asp1213 as a vet, I completely agree.
Some chick named "Katie Hanson" replying to Dave Barry on vid 3 mos ago "Crazy Reactive Montage" something like that. 2nd dog was Seraphina and Bosco was in there. Anyway chick posting link to Positive Reinforcement Only